Mother of NBC's Savannah Guthrie Missing

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Martin Cash said:

Two questions:

1. As far I know, the FBI lab doesn't charge. Why pay for the private lab.
2. Arizona doesn't have a state run lab like DPS does here?

No, they do have a crime lab under their state DPS.
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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:



The local office wouldn't release evidence/authority to the FBI. It's all absurd, imho even setting aside my disdain for the FBI.
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Trumps longer answer was very diplomatic. Not directed at you, but to those who say Trump lacks decorum, he has shown the complete opposite on this from start to now.
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Get Clouseau on the case. Or maybe he already is the lead.
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usmcbrooks said:

I have an issue with these Sheriff's, an elected official wearing 4 stars on their collar like a Military General. I have to be the only one.


Just curious, why? Law enforcement uses military rank systems. Corporals, sergeants, majors, lieutenants, captains, etc. What should the sheriff's insignia be?
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I don't see why anybody cares about the DNA lab.

Local and federal guys never see eye to eye. Any chance to mark their territory, both take it.

I'm sure this is the lab the county always uses. I'm sure they do quality work. County may have a contract with them.

Pima County has made a giant mess and looks completely incompetent. But not because of lab choice.
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That's a stupid explanation from the fbi. They don't need the local sheriff to release evidence and certainly not authority. They can assume authority and confiscate any evidence. They are the senior law enforcement agency in the country.

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See Trumps comments. He has elected not to take it over. Certainly he can, says it should be up to the locals to decide who they want to lead it.
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4 said:

That's a stupid explanation from the fbi. They don't need the local sheriff to release evidence and certainly not authority. They can assume authority and confiscate any evidence. They are the senior law enforcement agency in the country.



True. But guess they are more concerned about optics. FBI didn't botch this case as much as the state authorities did.

If the Pima County officials want the blame here, so be it. Not at all happy about that but when politics get int the way of criminal investigations, crap happens.
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The Sun said:

usmcbrooks said:

I have an issue with these Sheriff's, an elected official wearing 4 stars on their collar like a Military General. I have to be the only one.


Just curious, why? Law enforcement uses military rank systems. Corporals, sergeants, majors, lieutenants, captains, etc. What should the sheriff's insignia be?


Seems like this one's should be a balloon knot
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Some poor guy totally uninvolved with this whole mess is about to get detained.

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Thoughts and prayers for the Door Dash drivers of greater Tucson tonight.

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bonfarr said:

Thoughts and prayers for the Door Dash drivers of greater Tucson tonight.




Or someone isn't getting their Dominos large pepperoni.

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Anybody know where SWAT is headed?
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MsDoubleD81 said:

Anybody know where SWAT is headed?

Wild goose chase
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MsDoubleD81 said:

Anybody know where SWAT is headed?


I read a town North of Tucson. Marana AZ
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Some poor Meskin got off work at the Tucson Tamale Market on on North Oracle and forgot to take his black food prep gloves off and is fixin' to get scared sheetless....
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I just turned on Jlr investigation. Are they in the right area. Someone sending them on hoax?
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flown-the-coop said:

See Trumps comments. He has elected not to take it over. Certainly he can, says it should be up to the locals to decide who they want to lead it.

At this point, it should be up to the family. But if they are like most liberals, they will choose politics over literally everything else in life.
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With all this activity, perp going to catch wind and run! LOL
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MsDoubleD81 said:

I just turned on Jlr investigation. Are they in the right area. Someone sending them on hoax?

aka Wild Goose Chase
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I would think once the ransom note went to TMZ, the FBI could argue they have jursdiction then.
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TRM said:

I would think once the ransom note went to TMZ, the FBI could argue they have jursdiction then.


"The most trusted name in news.
This is TMZ."
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flown-the-coop said:

Trump lacks decorum, he has shown the complete opposite on this from start to now.
Agreed.
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Some are saying Dominic Evans lives in Marana and posted a screenshot from the county tax office to prove it.


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aggiehawg said:

4 said:

That's a stupid explanation from the fbi. They don't need the local sheriff to release evidence and certainly not authority. They can assume authority and confiscate any evidence. They are the senior law enforcement agency in the country.



True. But guess they are more concerned about optics. FBI didn't botch this case as much as the state authorities did.

If the Pima County officials want the blame here, so be it. Not at all happy about that but when politics get int the way of criminal investigations, crap happens.

Mark Kelly has been on the ground with some anonymous handler hanging over the Pima County Sheriff, and he's been saying he has 100% confidence in the Sheriff's office handling the case, so I would guess he's the one stirring up friction.

Although others have pointed out that the Sheriff has a history w/ the FBI.
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If we assume that there are never any significant breaks in the case, when do you think this story falls off the headlines?
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Kelly is unwell. I think we may be seeing what end stage terminal TDS looks like.

Look at Schumer. They are walking around like zombies these days shaking their fists in the air and quivering at the notion that laws are to be enforced.
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Body will be found, conveniently right underneath everyone's noses. The killers identity, ethnicity, and so on will remain a mystery.
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TRM said:

I would think once the ransom note went to TMZ, the FBI could argue they have jursdiction then.

The notes are the FBI jurisdiction, The. FBI arrested two people already for fake ransom notes, the notes sent to Levin are scams as well but they haven't tracked down who sent them yet.

The actual crime in Tucson is still Pima County, call it missing person, or homicide, right now it's a missing body, because she's dead as a doornail. PCSO is handling all the physical evidence, the FBI is there to assist. There's no physical evidence tying the emails to her death, missing or whatever. Just words that proves nothing, they never provided any proof of life, just demands and empty deadline. Worst thing you can charge them with is 18 USC 876 Mailing Threatening Communications which covers demanding ransom or threatening injury. Depending on the method and intent, this can also fall under 18 USC 1341 Mail Fraud. Outside of those fake emails what do they have to even prove kidnapping? Nada, zilch, she's simply missing and dead. At this point they have nothing, not even the main charging element for murder, corpus delicti. Those few drops of blood on the porch don't even prove she'd dead, but we pretty much know she is.

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Jugstore Cowboy said:

aggiehawg said:

4 said:

That's a stupid explanation from the fbi. They don't need the local sheriff to release evidence and certainly not authority. They can assume authority and confiscate any evidence. They are the senior law enforcement agency in the country.



True. But guess they are more concerned about optics. FBI didn't botch this case as much as the state authorities did.

If the Pima County officials want the blame here, so be it. Not at all happy about that but when politics get int the way of criminal investigations, crap happens.

Mark Kelly has been on the ground with some anonymous handler hanging over the Pima County Sheriff, and he's been saying he has 100% confidence in the Sheriff's office handling the case, so I would guess he's the one stirring up friction.

Although others have pointed out that the Sheriff has a history w/ the FBI.

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