Political fallout and arguments regarding the US-Israeli action against Iran 022824

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Hullabaloonatic said:

e=mc2 said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

Uhhh yes, missiles are being exchanged across multiple countries. Soldiers and innocent civilians are dying.


It's chilling that you hate Trump more than you love your country. Millions are being freed and you're mad about it. Shameful!!


Free? No one in Iran is "free." One regime has been toppled and another will takeover. Unless you want the US to put boots on the ground and try to force governance all we did was inject chaos into an already bad situation.

And what's shameful is that Trump specially campaigned on NOT doing this and now you're acting like this is something you always supported.


I actually love the way Trump uses our might, the precision, and the messaging. You present your statements as fact. You don't know ***** And you're being exposed and humiliated on this thread. No one respects you. No one believes you. But we do know who you're for. Just admit it. You want us to fail so you can blame Trump. Pathetic, but very typical of the beta brigade of losers. So take the L. Or else remain a laughing stock.
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TAMUallen said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

Teslag said:

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I talked to 1 who had the exact opposite reaction.


The person you talked to thinks their best life was under the mullahs?

No, that the next regime will be just as bad but now there will be mass anarchy until then.


So you talked to a person who doesnt know what will happen and is skeptical. You extrapolate them not trusting a path forward to then meaning it's best to be led by extremist mullahs who follow the will of a man who married a 6 yr old girl. Solid thinking and nice strategy for the world!

? No one said life under mullahs was 'best.' YOU said you talked to several iranians who are 'ecstatic' about what happens next. I said i talked to 1 who is not 'ecstatic' but terrified that the future will be the same but with more chaos injected. You are the one extrapolating what I said.
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e=mc2 said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

e=mc2 said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

Uhhh yes, missiles are being exchanged across multiple countries. Soldiers and innocent civilians are dying.


It's chilling that you hate Trump more than you love your country. Millions are being freed and you're mad about it. Shameful!!


Free? No one in Iran is "free." One regime has been toppled and another will takeover. Unless you want the US to put boots on the ground and try to force governance all we did was inject chaos into an already bad situation.

And what's shameful is that Trump specially campaigned on NOT doing this and now you're acting like this is something you always supported.


I actually love the way Trump uses our might, the precision, and the messaging. You present your statements as fact. You don't know ***** And you're being exposed and humiliated on this thread. No one respects you. No one believes you. But we do know who you're for. Just admit it. You want us to fail so you can blame Trump. Pathetic, but very typical of the beta brigade of losers. So take the L. Or else remain a laughing stock.

Your boos don't bother me. I've seen what you people cheer for.
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Hullabaloonatic said:

e=mc2 said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

e=mc2 said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

Uhhh yes, missiles are being exchanged across multiple countries. Soldiers and innocent civilians are dying.


It's chilling that you hate Trump more than you love your country. Millions are being freed and you're mad about it. Shameful!!


Free? No one in Iran is "free." One regime has been toppled and another will takeover. Unless you want the US to put boots on the ground and try to force governance all we did was inject chaos into an already bad situation.

And what's shameful is that Trump specially campaigned on NOT doing this and now you're acting like this is something you always supported.


I actually love the way Trump uses our might, the precision, and the messaging. You present your statements as fact. You don't know ***** And you're being exposed and humiliated on this thread. No one respects you. No one believes you. But we do know who you're for. Just admit it. You want us to fail so you can blame Trump. Pathetic, but very typical of the beta brigade of losers. So take the L. Or else remain a laughing stock.

Your boos don't bother me. I've seen what you people cheer for.


As opposed to cheering for continued life under Islamic oppression? (This is real oppression, not "I can't use the girls restroom because I have a peenus and wear a dress" oppression)
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Hullabaloonatic said:

TAMUallen said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

Teslag said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

Teslag said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

Teslag said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

Teslag said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

backintexas2013 said:

Because you said it was confirmed by them. It wasn't they were reporting what the Iranian state media said. No confirmation at all just spitting what Iran told them. Maybe be smarter about what you post


Al Jazeera found it credible enough to publish under their name. Where has it been confirmed as false?


Why are Iranians celebrating?

What point do you think you're making? That the 'cheering' is validation of Trump's actions? Maybe many people are cheering now. Maybe only a relatively few are. Either way, do you think they'll still be cheering in another day? another week? another month? Did our bombs sprinkle magic freedom powder over their communities that will immediately establish a just a moral government? No? So again, what point do you think you're making?


Why can't you just answer why think they are celebrating?

I would think they are glad an awful tyrannical group of people were toppled today and they're cheering because they don't know or haven't considered what comes next.


Have you considered the possibility that what comes next is much better for them?

Have you considered the probability that what comes next is much worse?

Since my words are falling on deaf ears, please listen to these words:



So you believe that living under the mulllahs was the best thing possible for the Iranians? And thst it couldn't possibly be better if they were gone?

That's your position?

My position is the US should stop engaging in the regime change business. Especially in the Middle East. And that opinion is a bi-partisan one that most Americans agree with.


You might want to take at a look of the polls on this. It is overwhelmingly positive

Have a good night you leftist lunatic supporter of a supreme shiite leader who had made his country's purpose to destroy you

? which polls are you looking at? Reuters ipsos poll from today shows only 1 in 4 Americans support the Iranian strike. Even amongst identified Republicans it's mixed.


Lets give you your purported polls with 100 percent accuracy. Read the room dude. Youre the lone opponent to this. Theres reality and what you want reality to be.

Fact is, we took out the Supreme Leader who has been trying to take out our POTUS. There has been massive protests against the Islamic Republic with 10s of thousands murdered for their opposition to the state. You might not like it but the United States and Israel have made the world a better place. Iranians are happy and we are all now safer.

It has happened. You dont have a choice. Why are you upset and how can this be worse? We removed the regime that was set on nuclear weapons to destroy you and me.
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I hate to inform you that the 'politics' forum on TexAgs.com does not encompass all of reality.
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Hullabaloonatic said:

I hate to inform you that the 'politics' forum on TexAgs.com does not encompass all of reality.


It's far closer to reality than what you claim yours to be
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Hullabaloonatic said:

e=mc2 said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

e=mc2 said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

Uhhh yes, missiles are being exchanged across multiple countries. Soldiers and innocent civilians are dying.


It's chilling that you hate Trump more than you love your country. Millions are being freed and you're mad about it. Shameful!!


Free? No one in Iran is "free." One regime has been toppled and another will takeover. Unless you want the US to put boots on the ground and try to force governance all we did was inject chaos into an already bad situation.

And what's shameful is that Trump specially campaigned on NOT doing this and now you're acting like this is something you always supported.


I actually love the way Trump uses our might, the precision, and the messaging. You present your statements as fact. You don't know ***** And you're being exposed and humiliated on this thread. No one respects you. No one believes you. But we do know who you're for. Just admit it. You want us to fail so you can blame Trump. Pathetic, but very typical of the beta brigade of losers. So take the L. Or else remain a laughing stock.

Your boos don't bother me. I've seen what you people cheer for.

And what is it "his people cheer for" that bothers you so much"

World Peace through strength.
American security and prosperity.

We know libs no longer value those things. Actions of democrats at the SoTU address and cheering on the Iranian Dictatorship while its people cheered America.

Its clear the left and right in this country do not cheer for the same things. The left has become Marxist garbage and the worst of humanity
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Ellis Wyatt said:

Were we at war when all the marines were killed in Beirut?


Iran was at war with us. Our government just didn't want to acknowledge that fact.
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Hullabaloonatic said:

e=mc2 said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

e=mc2 said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

Uhhh yes, missiles are being exchanged across multiple countries. Soldiers and innocent civilians are dying.


It's chilling that you hate Trump more than you love your country. Millions are being freed and you're mad about it. Shameful!!


Free? No one in Iran is "free." One regime has been toppled and another will takeover. Unless you want the US to put boots on the ground and try to force governance all we did was inject chaos into an already bad situation.

And what's shameful is that Trump specially campaigned on NOT doing this and now you're acting like this is something you always supported.


I actually love the way Trump uses our might, the precision, and the messaging. You present your statements as fact. You don't know ***** And you're being exposed and humiliated on this thread. No one respects you. No one believes you. But we do know who you're for. Just admit it. You want us to fail so you can blame Trump. Pathetic, but very typical of the beta brigade of losers. So take the L. Or else remain a laughing stock.

Your boos don't bother me. I've seen what you people cheer for.


You people? We cheer for freedom. It's a pretty simple concept. And guess what, Trump is going to free Cuba next. So hurry up and get the hate machine dialed in. Castro needs you to help keep his regime in place on the necks of the Cubans. Be useful!
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Hullabaloonatic said:

e=mc2 said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

e=mc2 said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

Uhhh yes, missiles are being exchanged across multiple countries. Soldiers and innocent civilians are dying.


It's chilling that you hate Trump more than you love your country. Millions are being freed and you're mad about it. Shameful!!


Free? No one in Iran is "free." One regime has been toppled and another will takeover. Unless you want the US to put boots on the ground and try to force governance all we did was inject chaos into an already bad situation.

And what's shameful is that Trump specially campaigned on NOT doing this and now you're acting like this is something you always supported.


I actually love the way Trump uses our might, the precision, and the messaging. You present your statements as fact. You don't know ***** And you're being exposed and humiliated on this thread. No one respects you. No one believes you. But we do know who you're for. Just admit it. You want us to fail so you can blame Trump. Pathetic, but very typical of the beta brigade of losers. So take the L. Or else remain a laughing stock.

Your boos don't bother me. I've seen what you people cheer for.


We've seen your side cheer for assassination of Charlie and attempted assassinations of the POTUS. Youre riding a miniature horse like a Shire horse my man
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Hullabaloonatic - you are showing your true colors and they are not red, white and blue. What "cell" do you belong to?
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American Commies


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We know what would continue happening with no change. This change gives the Iranian people hope with the additional benefit of a safer world.

Hope is a great thing.
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Monty Python is red pilled

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John Cleese is a based old school liberal. Not the ****ed up variety of modernity.
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aggiedata said:

American Commies





And Khamenei would have had her stoned to death for showing her face in public.
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The Brits are cooked. We need new alliances.

Summing up the British approach to Iran here:

1) US asks to use British bases, we say no.

2) Tell everyone we weren't involved and hope they leave us alone.

3) oh dear, they didn't leave us alone. They're shooting missiles at us.

4) claim that the only way to stop this and protect British citizens is to destroy the missiles at source.

5) allow the Americans to use our bases to destroy the missiles at source.

6) refuse to help destroy the missiles at source, even though we just said destroying them at source is the only way to end the threat to British citizens.

7) tell everyone we're not involved and hope they'll leave us alone.



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You mean Elizabeth Warren had a verifiable America hater on her staff???

No WAY!!!
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Hullabaloonatic said:

Ag with kids said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

Uhhh yes, missiles are being exchanged across multiple countries. Soldiers and innocent civilians are dying.

30K innocent civilians were just killed by the tyrants that were removed this weekend.

Sad that you didn't care about them...


It's super messed up but I'm confused, are we the world police or not? Because there's a lot of tyrannical governments out there and I thought we all agreed another middle eastern occupation was not putting America First.

I'm not an isolationist.

America First means taking care of EVERYTHING that affect America.

Iran was causing problems that hurt global trade and the middle east.

Things that hurt global trade and the middle east affect America.

Therefore, in order to be AMERICA FIRST, you need to stop Iran from causing those problems.

This is not rocket surgery...



BTW...absolutely NO ONE has said there needs to be "another middle eastern occupation"...
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Teslag said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

Teslag said:

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Teslag said:

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backintexas2013 said:

Because you said it was confirmed by them. It wasn't they were reporting what the Iranian state media said. No confirmation at all just spitting what Iran told them. Maybe be smarter about what you post


Al Jazeera found it credible enough to publish under their name. Where has it been confirmed as false?


Why are Iranians celebrating?

What point do you think you're making? That the 'cheering' is validation of Trump's actions? Maybe many people are cheering now. Maybe only a relatively few are. Either way, do you think they'll still be cheering in another day? another week? another month? Did our bombs sprinkle magic freedom powder over their communities that will immediately establish a just a moral government? No? So again, what point do you think you're making?


Why can't you just answer why think they are celebrating?

I would think they are glad an awful tyrannical group of people were toppled today and they're cheering because they don't know or haven't considered what comes next.


Have you considered the possibility that what comes next is much better for them?

Have you considered the probability that what comes next is much worse?

Since my words are falling on deaf ears, please listen to these words:



So you believe that living under the mulllahs was the best thing possible for the Iranians? And thst it couldn't possibly be better if they were gone?

That's your position?

He believes that every single thing Trump does is the worst thing ever, and every other situation would be MUCH better.

When we joke about Trump curing cancer and the left blaming him for putting oncologists out of work, we're only half joking...

Because people like him exist...
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Teslag said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

Teslag said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

Teslag said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

Teslag said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

backintexas2013 said:

Because you said it was confirmed by them. It wasn't they were reporting what the Iranian state media said. No confirmation at all just spitting what Iran told them. Maybe be smarter about what you post


Al Jazeera found it credible enough to publish under their name. Where has it been confirmed as false?


Why are Iranians celebrating?

What point do you think you're making? That the 'cheering' is validation of Trump's actions? Maybe many people are cheering now. Maybe only a relatively few are. Either way, do you think they'll still be cheering in another day? another week? another month? Did our bombs sprinkle magic freedom powder over their communities that will immediately establish a just a moral government? No? So again, what point do you think you're making?


Why can't you just answer why think they are celebrating?

I would think they are glad an awful tyrannical group of people were toppled today and they're cheering because they don't know or haven't considered what comes next.


Have you considered the possibility that what comes next is much better for them?

Have you considered the probability that what comes next is much worse?

Since my words are falling on deaf ears, please listen to these words:



So you believe that living under the mulllahs was the best thing possible for the Iranians? And thst it couldn't possibly be better if they were gone?

That's your position?

BTW...I'll bet the paid talking points have been put out by now...

I think these posts are showing that...
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Warren is a marxist and her staff.
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Aglaw97 said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

Teslag said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

Teslag said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

backintexas2013 said:

Because you said it was confirmed by them. It wasn't they were reporting what the Iranian state media said. No confirmation at all just spitting what Iran told them. Maybe be smarter about what you post


Al Jazeera found it credible enough to publish under their name. Where has it been confirmed as false?


Why are Iranians celebrating?

What point do you think you're making? That the 'cheering' is validation of Trump's actions? Maybe many people are cheering now. Maybe only a relatively few are. Either way, do you think they'll still be cheering in another day? another week? another month? Did our bombs sprinkle magic freedom powder over their communities that will immediately establish a just a moral government? No? So again, what point do you think you're making?


Why can't you just answer why think they are celebrating?

I would think they are glad an awful tyrannical group of people were toppled today and they're cheering because they don't know or haven't considered what comes next.


From talking to several Iranians, they have considered what could come next and every single one is ecstatic.

I'll bet every one of them would rather Iran become like Chicago's south side than to stay like it is...
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Hullabaloonatic said:

Teslag said:

I also believe that we shouldn't be involved. It's not our fight. But that also doesn't mean I can't admit the obvious that it's probably a great thing for the Iranian people.

Admitting that doesn't make you a Trump apologist or supporter.

The "right thing for the Iranian people" doesn't stop at just taking out Ayatollah. You break it, you buy it. If Trump and his supporters are gonna hang their hat on "we dropped freedom on Iran" you only get to claim that if Iranian lives are actually improved. Which means the US now has a moral obligation to install and police the new government. Otherwise, all we did was knock down their ****ty house and say "hey, now you have a chance to build a better one! Good luck!"

Like we did with Venezuela...

Which is now more peaceful and calm than they've been in decades?

Oh yeah...we didn't do that. We let the people THERE do it - but with guidelines...
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Teslag said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

I talked to 1 who had the exact opposite reaction.


The person you talked to thinks their best life was under the mullahs?

If so, that person probably thinks women need to be oppressed, and gays and trans people need to be executed...

Because that's what the mullahs thought...
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Hullabaloonatic said:

Teslag said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

I talked to 1 who had the exact opposite reaction.


The person you talked to thinks their best life was under the mullahs?

No, that the next regime will be just as bad but now there will be mass anarchy until then.

Just admit that this was you talking to yourself...
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Hullabaloonatic said:

Teslag said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

Teslag said:

I also believe that we shouldn't be involved. It's not our fight. But that also doesn't mean I can't admit the obvious that it's probably a great thing for the Iranian people.

Admitting that doesn't make you a Trump apologist or supporter.

The "right thing for the Iranian people" doesn't stop at just taking out Ayatollah. You break it, you buy it. If Trump and his supporters are gonna hang their hat on "we dropped freedom on Iran" you only get to claim that if Iranian lives are actually improved. Which means the US now has a moral obligation to install and police the new government. Otherwise, all we did was knock down their ****ty house and say "hey, now you have a chance to build a better one! Good luck!"


I would rather have a poor chance at liberty on my own than to be hopelessly oppressed till I die.

But you may be different.

Sure, that sounds great but we have history as a teacher and unless the US is committed to putting boots on the ground to ensure the installation of a moral, well functioning government, we know how this is going to go. Another Ayatollah 2.0 is going to rise up.

You DO KNOW that there were secular governments for decades before the Ayatollah, right?

Sorry...dumb question...
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Hullabaloonatic said:

TAMUallen said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

Teslag said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

Teslag said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

Teslag said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

Teslag said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

backintexas2013 said:

Because you said it was confirmed by them. It wasn't they were reporting what the Iranian state media said. No confirmation at all just spitting what Iran told them. Maybe be smarter about what you post


Al Jazeera found it credible enough to publish under their name. Where has it been confirmed as false?


Why are Iranians celebrating?

What point do you think you're making? That the 'cheering' is validation of Trump's actions? Maybe many people are cheering now. Maybe only a relatively few are. Either way, do you think they'll still be cheering in another day? another week? another month? Did our bombs sprinkle magic freedom powder over their communities that will immediately establish a just a moral government? No? So again, what point do you think you're making?


Why can't you just answer why think they are celebrating?

I would think they are glad an awful tyrannical group of people were toppled today and they're cheering because they don't know or haven't considered what comes next.


Have you considered the possibility that what comes next is much better for them?

Have you considered the probability that what comes next is much worse?

Since my words are falling on deaf ears, please listen to these words:



So you believe that living under the mulllahs was the best thing possible for the Iranians? And thst it couldn't possibly be better if they were gone?

That's your position?

My position is the US should stop engaging in the regime change business. Especially in the Middle East. And that opinion is a bi-partisan one that most Americans agree with.


You might want to take at a look of the polls on this. It is overwhelmingly positive

Have a good night you leftist lunatic supporter of a supreme shiite leader who had made his country's purpose to destroy you

? which polls are you looking at? Reuters ipsos poll from today shows only 1 in 4 Americans support the Iranian strike. Even amongst identified Republicans it's mixed.

There is basically NO WAY that any scientific or statistically accurate polling has been done between the attacks and now.

Anyone saying different is completely ignorant about how polling works...
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Teslag said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

e=mc2 said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

e=mc2 said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

Uhhh yes, missiles are being exchanged across multiple countries. Soldiers and innocent civilians are dying.


It's chilling that you hate Trump more than you love your country. Millions are being freed and you're mad about it. Shameful!!


Free? No one in Iran is "free." One regime has been toppled and another will takeover. Unless you want the US to put boots on the ground and try to force governance all we did was inject chaos into an already bad situation.

And what's shameful is that Trump specially campaigned on NOT doing this and now you're acting like this is something you always supported.


I actually love the way Trump uses our might, the precision, and the messaging. You present your statements as fact. You don't know ***** And you're being exposed and humiliated on this thread. No one respects you. No one believes you. But we do know who you're for. Just admit it. You want us to fail so you can blame Trump. Pathetic, but very typical of the beta brigade of losers. So take the L. Or else remain a laughing stock.

Your boos don't bother me. I've seen what you people cheer for.


As opposed to cheering for continued life under Islamic oppression? (This is real oppression, not "I can't use the girls restroom because I have a peenus and wear a dress" oppression)

AKA... the kind of oppression he hates.
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Guys, it's not a genuine account - just here to stir. Look at posting forums and sign up date. No one comes to 'TexAgs' just to post on F16 and to be so passionate on this topic. It's their job.
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Anyone saying anything about the good or bad of this beyond the make statement that a dead Australian Ayatollah is better than a breathing Ayatollah if you don't have to consider outcomes. Too little information, too many future unknowns. Hope it works out well and a minimal amount of good guys die.
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boulderaggie said:

Guys, it's not a genuine account - just here to stir. Look at posting forums and sign up date. No one comes to 'TexAgs' just to post on F16 and to be so passionate on this topic. It's their job.


Hopefully he's getting a good check then. This beatdown is so embarrassing, getting paid to post nonsense might be worth it. If he's not getting paid, well, I shudder to think of how unhinged he is.
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boulderaggie said:

Guys, it's not a genuine account - just here to stir. Look at posting forums and sign up date. No one comes to 'TexAgs' just to post on F16 and to be so passionate on this topic. It's their job.


How does one get paid to larp on social sites. Asking for a friend.
Can't decide if I want to be cute and cuddly, or go blow some sh*t up.
Decisions decisions
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