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So tiresome.

Its pretty clear "winning" is a something matt walsh refuses to even entertain. His schtick on this issue is quote tiresome as he is being intentionally obtuse.

1. A more friendly govt. Regime change wasnt necessary for that, but the Ayatollah chose it and we delivered
2. No more nuke aspirations. We offered free nuke fuel for life and they rejected it- because nuke power was never something they were interested in. No matter what side of the aisle or what belief system you ascribe to, a nuclear iran is bad for every american and the world


3. Most importantly, iran is a central spoke of terrorism, for the usa and world writ large. Its cost us thousands of lives since the Ayatollah came to power. Its cost our allies thousands of lives.

Their terror system intentionally disrupt world order and seek to destroy partnerships that Trump has been trying to build (or rebuild) since his first term.

Sure there are some more trouble makers in the middle east, but none with the influence of iran. Just like Venezuela, removing their leaders will undoubtedly change the calculations. Iran lashing out at its regional neighbors only help to unite a coalition that is broadly more friendly to the west.

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The bolded is the key...

The people in charge of Iran up until Saturday morning believed that they would get the gang back together to rebuild the "caliphate".

They would have ZERO problem killing anyone that got in their way if they had nukes...

#ANALYSIS

The Trump administration's willingness to attack Iran before the elections — without fearing a spike in oil prices — is attributed to having already secured Venezuelan oil.

The U.S. can purchase 1 million barrels per day from Venezuela at $40/barrel, a volume that… pic.twitter.com/7GhVK4VILc

— Clash Report (@clashreport) March 3, 2026

🚨 EXPLAINER: Where Gas prices at the pump are headed.

Get ready for higher gas prices at the pump - but not much higher for now.

Key points to understand:

⚡️The problem in the Strait of Hormuz is one of insurance: Insurers need higher risk premiums from shippers. That should… pic.twitter.com/kUKTSWUxUC

— ⚡️David Blackmon⚡️ (@EnergyAbsurdity) March 2, 2026

Speculation at powerline/jpost about the outcome:

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"There is no precedent for regime change through an air campaign," Brig. Gen. Eran Ortal told The Media Line.

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Which, however, is not necessarily a pessimistic evaluation:

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Ortal framed what comes next as two broad paths. In the first, he said, leadership losses and a communications breakdown combine with extreme public pressure to produce a rupture that ends the regimean outcome he stressed airpower alone has not historically produced.
"Seeing Iranians celebrating the attack in the streets increases the optimism that this scenario could materialize," Ortal explained. "This could create a domino effect that cannot be foreseen in which the disappearance of senior leadership, major communications disruption, and extreme public pressure destabilize the leadership, who then abandon their positions."
If that cascade does not happen, Ortal said the likely endpoint may be a government that survives politically but is left strategically broken. "This will leave the regime without military capabilities, weak and neutralized and fully subordinate to American whims and future coercion," he said.

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So the question, really, lies between best case and good case. If the Islamic regime survives, it will be so weakened as to be unable to play the disruptive role with which we have become familiar.
Danny Orbach, a military historian, also spoke with the Post and made a similar point:

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"The goal is not for the regime to fall, but to create conditions that will enable the Iranian people to topple it," Professor Danny Orbach, a military historian from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, told The Media Line. "If the Iranians don't take advantage of the opportunity, the war might end with less ambitious goals achievedthe destruction of the Iranian navy, its missile arsenal, and the remnants of its nuclear program."

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Makes sense.

The Jews have deployed their earthquake generator. Iran is in big trouble now!

An earthquake of magnitude 4.3 strikes Gerash in Iran, reports Al Jazeera

More details awaited

— ANI (@ANI) March 3, 2026

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SECRETARY RUBIO: There was absolutely an imminent threat. We knew that if Iran was attacked, even by someone else, they would immediately come after us and we were NOT going to sit there and absorb a blow before we responded. pic.twitter.com/goer7Ku0Ta

— Department of State (@StateDept) March 2, 2026

Yeah that's not a good look. The world superpower got dragged into a war

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A "war" we are winning.

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What's winning? What's the objective.

So far we’ve heard that although we killed the whole Iranian regime, this was not a regime change war. And although we obliterated their nuclear program, we had to do this because of their nuclear program. And although Iran was not planning any attacks on the US, they also might…

— Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) March 2, 2026

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Prevent Iran from being able to create a nuclear warhead for their hypersonic missiles
Prevent Iran from developing inter continental ballistic missiles that can reach the US
Kill as many Islamists as possible
Topple the Islamist regime in Iran and replace it with a non theocratic one - that last one is going to be very difficult without boots on the ground

Poor Matt

Here’s Matt in 2020 going after Iran and its apologists after Iran shot down a commercial airliner and shot missiles at American bases, but also the idea Iran has been at war with us is absurd and just invented in 2026 you see https://t.co/M5dnlmXvXU pic.twitter.com/0jpVW53q3x

— Sunny (@sunnyright) March 3, 2026

Matt Walsh is doing what he does best constructing a clever-sounding logical argument on a foundation he didn’t bother to research.

Here’s why it falls apart completely:

The argument he’s making:

If the program was obliterated in summer 2025, it cannot also be close to immune… https://t.co/wuf4ipUYei

— Insurrection Barbie (@DefiyantlyFree) March 3, 2026

If the program was obliterated in summer 2025, it cannot also be close to immune from attack in February 2026.
Logical impossibility.
Square circle.

After the June 2025 Israeli strikes the IAEA confirmed Iran's enrichment program was significantly set back. That's obliterated in the sense that it was severely degraded not erased from existence permanently.

Iran then spent eight months rebuilding. This is documented. US Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee said in December 2025 that Iran appeared to be attempting to rebuild Fordow and said it suggested they "didn't get the full message" from the June strikes.

Iran moved approximately 408 kilograms of 60% enriched uranium to secret locations in deeply buried facilities at Isfahan before the February 2026 strikes.

Iran announced it would build new advanced centrifuges after the IAEA censure. Iran reduced IAEA cooperation to hide its rebuilding progress.

So the actual sequence is:

June 2025 program obliterated by Israeli strikes.

June 2025 through February 2026 Iran rebuilds in hardened underground facilities specifically designed to survive future strikes.

February 2026 program approaching immune status in those hardened facilities, requiring American B-2 bombers with bunker-buster MOPs that only the United States possesses to reach.

Hope that clears things up.

IRANIANS CELEBRATE WORLDWIDE

“I mean, you look at some of these celebrations, and when you see, when you can see the American, the Iranian, and the Israeli flags all together in a group of people cheering and not fighting, I think you could be on to something. I think you could… pic.twitter.com/JDEqry9GJ3

— Real America's Voice (RAV) (@RealAmVoice) March 3, 2026

I wonder when the press will start reporting on the "Iranian Famine".

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SECRETARY RUBIO: There was absolutely an imminent threat. We knew that if Iran was attacked, even by someone else, they would immediately come after us and we were NOT going to sit there and absorb a blow before we responded. pic.twitter.com/goer7Ku0Ta

— Department of State (@StateDept) March 2, 2026

Yeah that's not a good look. The world superpower got dragged into a war

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A "war" we are winning.

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What's winning? What's the objective.

So far we’ve heard that although we killed the whole Iranian regime, this was not a regime change war. And although we obliterated their nuclear program, we had to do this because of their nuclear program. And although Iran was not planning any attacks on the US, they also might…

— Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) March 2, 2026

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Matt can whine louder.

His performance sadly draws in the useful.

That X account literally filleted Matt Walsh who's condescending smug BS caught up with him. No doubt he's a smart guy, but his slip is showing in this rant.

As I said on that thread. Most European countries aren't really our allies at this point beyond what they can get from us. It's largely a one-sided beneficial relationship. They are leeches off the American taxpayer, not our friends.

It's the same poster who criticize everything he does. They won't acknowledge being wrong.

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It's the same poster who criticize everything he does. They won't acknowledge being wrong.

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Unless that poster has at least 10 socks, they weren't close to the only one. It was bizarre.

Sorry. Should have been plural. Same posters.

Well this article is pretty good.

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No kidding, George. Every adversary of the United States has been given a clinic on what it means to mess with the United States. Merely having the most powerful military in the world is not sufficient to deter enemies if you are feckless and incompetent, and our leaders in recent decades have been extraordinarily so.

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George Will admits Trump is right:
https://hotair.com/david-strom/2026/03/02/george-will-bows-to-the-inevitable-trump-was-right-n3812446

its a good article but it pushes a false narrative that Will was wrong about foreign policy and has moved towards Trump's position. what happened was Trump moved towards what Will has always been saying, something Will didn't think Trump would do.

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its a good article but it pushes a false narrative that Will was wrong about foreign policy and has moved towards Trump's position. what happened was Trump moved towards what Will has always been saying, something Will didn't think Trump would do.

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Had George Will always called for attacking Iran? But he also condemned us for VZ?

I dont know. I haven't followed George Will in 20+ years.

dgaf what he says...Will and Peggy Noonan are last vestiges of the neocon swamp that acquiesced to the radical Left instead of fighting it (in the name of "building consensus" or "compassionate conservatism" or some ****)...Mittens, McCain and the Bushes are either dead or in forced retirement.

God bless Trump. Long live the King.

This is an ILLEGAL war on Mordor.

We’re told Sauron “poses an existential threat,” yet somehow this involves sending hobbits 1,500 miles to a volcano.

Regime change in Mordor will only create a power vacuum filled by worse orcs.

Sauron is bad, sure. But is he “march to Mount…

— Tahmineh Dehbozorgi (@DeTahmineh) March 3, 2026

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This is an ILLEGAL war on Mordor.

We're told Sauron "poses an existential threat," yet somehow this involves sending hobbits 1,500 miles to a volcano.

Regime change in Mordor will only create a power vacuum filled by worse orcs.

Sauron is bad, sure. But is he "march to Mount Doom" bad?

Meanwhile second breakfast is underfunded.

Tell me again how this puts the Shire first?

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we posted the building blasted in QOM

just hearing now that there were 88 leaders of the Islamic Republic who had been gathered to select the replacement Ayatollah for Khameini

if true that is a massive devastation of the Islamic Republic leadership

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Trump just said we are cutting off all trade with Spain. Lol.

Spain leadership about to pucker up.

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Good.

MULLIN: “I don’t remember you saying ANYTHING in 2016 when Barack Obama dropped 26,000 bombs in Syria, Pakistan, Libya—to name a few.”

“President Trump is doing his job as Commander in Chief… but there is no way on God’s green earth you can give @POTUS any credit.” 🔥🔥🔥 pic.twitter.com/T6DLVcRF7N

— Markwayne Mullin (@SenMullin) March 3, 2026

A tongue in cheek comment was made on the news update thread that (after the latest bombing which reportedly smoked a bunch more Iranian brass trying to vote on the new supreme leader) Mossad has so much info on these turds they probably know which leaders have polyps.

Help me understand... If Mosad has that much information (bad guy colons), how do they (we) not know exactly where every missile launcher is located? I'm admittedly not a military strategist but there is a disconnect here.

Options:
1. Semi-trucks are harder to track than humans
2. We do know but don't think we need to take them all out to accomplish objective
3. We do know but prefer not run our missile cost up and inventory down
4. We do know but we are preserving military assets for the next regime

Thoughts?

Trump pissed at UK as well over Diego.

"This is not the age of Churchill."

Because iran is twice the size of texas, full of mountains which Iran uses to hide their launchers. The launchers might be exposed for the couple minutes it takes to launch the missle and it goes back inside.

And, iran has had years to develop a plan to protect their launchers as best they can.

People are easier in this sense because they generally stay in a confined area

I think the Israelis (and us) know exactly where most all of those assets are.... I also think there is a degree of patience involved in making sure we don't just knock out the missile sites, but kill as many of their operators as possible at the same time.

I think we saw that with waiting until all their leadership was in the same place and killing them all within minutes and then when the mullahs re-convened, they were all annihilated... minimizing civilian causalities while maximizing death toll per bomb or missile.

JMO

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Because iran is twice the size of texas, full of mountains which Iran uses to hide their launchers. The launchers might be exposed for the couple minutes it takes to launch the missle and it goes back inside.

And, iran has had years to develop a plan to protect their launchers as best they can.

People are easier in this sense because they generally stay in a confined area

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I suppose. Life 360 tells me where my boys are but it is entirely possible I may not know ALL the spots they are hiding their booze

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Trump just said we are cutting off all trade with Spain.

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paella futures are soaring.

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Turns out, obama had Iranian homers in his cabinet that dropped pallets of card instead and didn't really get anything in exchange.

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John Kerry and Susan Rice need a one way flight to Iran today.

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Please always include Valerie Jarrett on that thought. The $150 billion to the regime in Obama's last week in office was just the icing on the cake.

Obama’s orbit:

Valerie Jarrett

Strzok grew up in Iran

Lisa Page’s mother, Iranian

Kerry’s daughter married Iranian

John Brennan converted to Islam

Huma Abedin, ties w MB

Obama refused to help victims of Iran’s Green Revolution https://t.co/bYV54Bh66W

— 🇺🇸𝕄𝔸𝔾𝔸 𝑵𝒂𝒏𝒄𝒚 ن ♱ (@45LVNancy) January 12, 2026

Also, never forget that notorious race-communist bigot Jimmy Carter facilitated the Iranian revolution in favor of the ayatollah vs. the Shah; his surviving cabinet members have never apologized. From a political perspective, we really owe the Iranian people this effort, imho.

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This is simply not true. Read King of Kings by Scott Andersen.

All of the war hawks on this page need to slow down.

I feel that we are 2 for 5* on regime change since 1918. Jefferson, Madison, Washington, Hamilton
et al warned us about foreign entanglements and we haven't listened.


Wins.


Germany twice


Losses

Cuba
Iran
Vietnam
Iraq
Afghanistan

It's not worth the money spent.

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Germany Twice
Japan
Italy
SOVIET UNION
Saved South Korea
Won Desert Storm
Venezuela

Iraq is debatable

Reminds me of a T-shirt I have
"War never solved anything…
except for ending slavery, Nazism, and communism"

Hopefully, we will add Islamism to that list…

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SECRETARY RUBIO: There was absolutely an imminent threat. We knew that if Iran was attacked, even by someone else, they would immediately come after us and we were NOT going to sit there and absorb a blow before we responded. pic.twitter.com/goer7Ku0Ta

— Department of State (@StateDept) March 2, 2026

Yeah that's not a good look. The world superpower got dragged into a war

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A "war" we are winning.

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What's winning? What's the objective.

So far we’ve heard that although we killed the whole Iranian regime, this was not a regime change war. And although we obliterated their nuclear program, we had to do this because of their nuclear program. And although Iran was not planning any attacks on the US, they also might…

— Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) March 2, 2026

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Matt can whine louder.

His performance sadly draws in the useful.

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I have been a Matt Walsh fan for many years.

I once said that the reason I don't have a podcast is because it would just be a repeat of Matt Walsh's

That all said, I believe he is completely wrong on this issue.

For one, he does not seem to realize that "We" (that is, the United States) has not been killing the current regime, Israel has. The US has been destroying Iranian capabilities, Israel has been destroying their leadership.

I can understand that "regime change" is not the US goal, but we would very likely appreciate it.

Whether we have considered ourselves at war with Iran for the last 47 years is irrelevant. They have considered themselves at war with us.