Ol_Ag_02 said:

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Severian the Torturer said:

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Weird how you didn't correct the poster who brought up prayer rooms for Muslims in the Vatican

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Maybe because I don't care one way or the other if the Vatican offers prayer rooms to onsite Muslim scholars. But if you had to press me on it, it just seems like a decent thing the Vatican is doing to accommodate fellow humans. So good on them for it, honestly.

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Jesus flipped tables for similar. This is disgusting behavior by the church.

Hardcore Greg said:

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One of my main problems with all of these recent Catholic talking heads (as well as virtually all liberals) is how they ONLY seem to hold predominantly white, Western nations to certain "moral" standards when it comes to national soveriegnty and immigration policy and enforcement.

But predominantly brown countries are beautiful and Wakanda-like and should remain homogeneous and protect themselves at all costs from the evil white colonizers.

The Pope and his liberal underlings who have infested the church will demonize us because we don't just let the entire world pour into our country and turn it upside down, but at the same time, view extremely racist and xenophobic places (by our standards) like Japan, China and Korea as 'special places', rich in history and culture, to be preserved.

Can you imagine, if, no matter how many generations they had been here, we never recognized Asian-Americans as full citizens, same as you and me, because their eyes are different and they are "racially impure"? Yeah, that's virtually all of Asia (as well as other parts of the world), and I have never heard any member of the clergy call them out.

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I think it's the same reasoning behind why Israel and Hamas is treated differently. You speak to people where they're at. I hold Israel to a higher standard than I hold Hamas, as they're a rich first world country, and Hamas is a bunch of paleolithic terrorists.

Also, Japan's population is .35% Catholic, and I think Korea is under 10% although it's growing, so they don't have gigantic audiences there like in the USA.

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My Lord and Savior was one of a kind for sure. Pretty remarkable I learned today he was a socialist carpenter.

Who knew

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Well Jesus did say to give to Caesar what is Caesar's, so that Caesar can give it to your neighbor. And Paul said if a man won't work, he shall eat freely of another man's garden.

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heavens11 said:

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My Lord and Savior was one of a kind for sure. Pretty remarkable I learned today he was a socialist carpenter.

Who knew

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Well Jesus did say to give to Caesar what is Caesar's, so that Caesar can give it to your neighbor. And Paul said if a man won't work, he shall eat freely of another man's garden.

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Don't forget

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When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'
"The King will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you voted for the socialist, you did for me.'

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Severian the Torturer said:

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Hardcore Greg said:

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One of my main problems with all of these recent Catholic talking heads (as well as virtually all liberals) is how they ONLY seem to hold predominantly white, Western nations to certain "moral" standards when it comes to national soveriegnty and immigration policy and enforcement.

But predominantly brown countries are beautiful and Wakanda-like and should remain homogeneous and protect themselves at all costs from the evil white colonizers.

The Pope and his liberal underlings who have infested the church will demonize us because we don't just let the entire world pour into our country and turn it upside down, but at the same time, view extremely racist and xenophobic places (by our standards) like Japan, China and Korea as 'special places', rich in history and culture, to be preserved.

Can you imagine, if, no matter how many generations they had been here, we never recognized Asian-Americans as full citizens, same as you and me, because their eyes are different and they are "racially impure"? Yeah, that's virtually all of Asia (as well as other parts of the world), and I have never heard any member of the clergy call them out.

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I think it's the same reasoning behind why Israel and Hamas is treated differently. You speak to people where they're at. I hold Israel to a higher standard than I hold Hamas, as they're a rich first world country, and Hamas is a bunch of paleolithic terrorists.

Also, Japan's population is .35% Catholic, and I think Korea is under 10% although it's growing, so they don't have gigantic audiences there like in the USA.

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Well I am sick of Catholic priests and bishops who think it is 'evil' to have borders and to enforce them. That we need to just let in infinity unvetted military aged males from third world countries who will make American streets less safe for our families. ZERO biblical basis for such insane malarkey. Having border, or immigration law, doesn't mean you hate everyone who is not American...yet that is how it is dishonestly framed.

I get that they need to keep their ponzi scheme going somehow, but I don't have to support it.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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Severian the Torturer said:

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Weird how you didn't correct the poster who brought up prayer rooms for Muslims in the Vatican

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Maybe because I don't care one way or the other if the Vatican offers prayer rooms to onsite Muslim scholars. But if you had to press me on it, it just seems like a decent thing the Vatican is doing to accommodate fellow humans. So good on them for it, honestly.

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Jesus flipped tables for similar. This is disgusting behavior by the church.

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My memory tells me Jesus flipped tables because capitalists had set-up shop in a temple and were taking advantage of the poor and travelers. The temple had become a marketplace where profit was put ahead of spirituality, taking advantage of the less fortunate.

The phrase 'a house of prayer for all nations' comes to mind. In that sense, the by providing prayer rooms for others in the Vatican (not St. Peter's Basilica) is simply following Christ's teachings.

Hardcore Greg said:

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Severian the Torturer said:

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Hardcore Greg said:

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One of my main problems with all of these recent Catholic talking heads (as well as virtually all liberals) is how they ONLY seem to hold predominantly white, Western nations to certain "moral" standards when it comes to national soveriegnty and immigration policy and enforcement.

But predominantly brown countries are beautiful and Wakanda-like and should remain homogeneous and protect themselves at all costs from the evil white colonizers.

The Pope and his liberal underlings who have infested the church will demonize us because we don't just let the entire world pour into our country and turn it upside down, but at the same time, view extremely racist and xenophobic places (by our standards) like Japan, China and Korea as 'special places', rich in history and culture, to be preserved.

Can you imagine, if, no matter how many generations they had been here, we never recognized Asian-Americans as full citizens, same as you and me, because their eyes are different and they are "racially impure"? Yeah, that's virtually all of Asia (as well as other parts of the world), and I have never heard any member of the clergy call them out.

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I think it's the same reasoning behind why Israel and Hamas is treated differently. You speak to people where they're at. I hold Israel to a higher standard than I hold Hamas, as they're a rich first world country, and Hamas is a bunch of paleolithic terrorists.

Also, Japan's population is .35% Catholic, and I think Korea is under 10% although it's growing, so they don't have gigantic audiences there like in the USA.

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Well I am sick of Catholic priests and bishops who think it is 'evil' to have borders and to enforce them. That we need to just let in infinity unvetted military aged males from third world countries who will make American streets less safe for our families. ZERO biblical basis for such insane malarkey. Having border, or immigration law, doesn't mean you hate everyone who is not American...yet that is how it is dishonestly framed.

I get that they need to keep their ponzi scheme going somehow, but I don't have to support it.

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I know of no Catholic priests (bishops included) who think it is 'evil' to have borders and to enforce them.

What they are becoming increasingly vocal about is the unmitigated cruelty being exercised.

Watermelon Man said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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Severian the Torturer said:

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Weird how you didn't correct the poster who brought up prayer rooms for Muslims in the Vatican

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Maybe because I don't care one way or the other if the Vatican offers prayer rooms to onsite Muslim scholars. But if you had to press me on it, it just seems like a decent thing the Vatican is doing to accommodate fellow humans. So good on them for it, honestly.

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Jesus flipped tables for similar. This is disgusting behavior by the church.

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My memory tells me Jesus flipped tables because capitalists had set-up shop in a temple and were taking advantage of the poor and travelers. The temple had become a marketplace where profit was put ahead of spirituality, taking advantage of the less fortunate.

The phrase 'a house of prayer for all nations' comes to mind. In that sense, the by providing prayer rooms for others in the Vatican (not St. Peter's Basilica) is simply following Christ's teachings.

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Your memory fails you. It wasn't capitalism, it was a corrupt priesthood. The priests could declare the sacrifices of the people "unclean" and direct them to the "approved vendors" of the sacrifices just outside the temple gates that had inflated costs, part of which went back to the priests. It was the corruption of the system meant for atonement that Jesus railed against.

The more the Catholic Church promotes a problem with borders while encouraging people to illegally enter the US, the more money they get to aid and "help" these people. It's self fulfilling.

They were using the temple for purposes other than God's. Worshipping a false god in the temple and condoning it is at least as bad.

Watermelon Man said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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Severian the Torturer said:

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Weird how you didn't correct the poster who brought up prayer rooms for Muslims in the Vatican

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He flipped the tables and beat the SOCIALISTS who shrunk the middle class by relagating them to the poor, thereby dependent on them.
Also, had nothing g to do with what they were doing, but where they were doing it. If you didn't know, now you do.

Maybe because I don't care one way or the other if the Vatican offers prayer rooms to onsite Muslim scholars. But if you had to press me on it, it just seems like a decent thing the Vatican is doing to accommodate fellow humans. So good on them for it, honestly.

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Jesus flipped tables for similar. This is disgusting behavior by the church.

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My memory tells me Jesus flipped tables because capitalists had set-up shop in a temple and were taking advantage of the poor and travelers. The temple had become a marketplace where profit was put ahead of spirituality, taking advantage of the less fortunate.

The phrase 'a house of prayer for all nations' comes to mind. In that sense, the by providing prayer rooms for others in the Vatican (not St. Peter's Basilica) is simply following Christ's teachings.

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Watermelon Man said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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Severian the Torturer said:

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Weird how you didn't correct the poster who brought up prayer rooms for Muslims in the Vatican

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Maybe because I don't care one way or the other if the Vatican offers prayer rooms to onsite Muslim scholars. But if you had to press me on it, it just seems like a decent thing the Vatican is doing to accommodate fellow humans. So good on them for it, honestly.

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Jesus flipped tables for similar. This is disgusting behavior by the church.

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My memory tells me Jesus flipped tables because capitalists had set-up shop in a temple and were taking advantage of the poor and travelers. The temple had become a marketplace where profit was put ahead of spirituality, taking advantage of the less fortunate.

The phrase 'a house of prayer for all nations' comes to mind. In that sense, the by providing prayer rooms for others in the Vatican (not St. Peter's Basilica) is simply following Christ's teachings.

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He flipped the tables and beat the SOCIALISTS who shrunk the middle class by relagating them to the poor, thereby dependent on them.
Also, had everything to do with where they were conducting business and less about the business. If you didn't know, now you do.

TxSquarebody said:

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Watermelon Man said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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Severian the Torturer said:

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Weird how you didn't correct the poster who brought up prayer rooms for Muslims in the Vatican

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Maybe because I don't care one way or the other if the Vatican offers prayer rooms to onsite Muslim scholars. But if you had to press me on it, it just seems like a decent thing the Vatican is doing to accommodate fellow humans. So good on them for it, honestly.

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Jesus flipped tables for similar. This is disgusting behavior by the church.

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My memory tells me Jesus flipped tables because capitalists had set-up shop in a temple and were taking advantage of the poor and travelers. The temple had become a marketplace where profit was put ahead of spirituality, taking advantage of the less fortunate.

The phrase 'a house of prayer for all nations' comes to mind. In that sense, the by providing prayer rooms for others in the Vatican (not St. Peter's Basilica) is simply following Christ's teachings.

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He flipped the tables and beat the SOCIALISTS who shrunk the middle class by relagating them to the poor, thereby dependent on them.
Also, had everything to do with where they were conducting business and less about the business. If you didn't know, now you do.

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I didn't know SOCIALISTS existed in Christ's time. Must have taken Karl Marx by surprise.

Or, perhaps you are trying to spin way too hard?

Hardcore Greg said:

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Severian the Torturer said:

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Hardcore Greg said:

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One of my main problems with all of these recent Catholic talking heads (as well as virtually all liberals) is how they ONLY seem to hold predominantly white, Western nations to certain "moral" standards when it comes to national soveriegnty and immigration policy and enforcement.

But predominantly brown countries are beautiful and Wakanda-like and should remain homogeneous and protect themselves at all costs from the evil white colonizers.

The Pope and his liberal underlings who have infested the church will demonize us because we don't just let the entire world pour into our country and turn it upside down, but at the same time, view extremely racist and xenophobic places (by our standards) like Japan, China and Korea as 'special places', rich in history and culture, to be preserved.

Can you imagine, if, no matter how many generations they had been here, we never recognized Asian-Americans as full citizens, same as you and me, because their eyes are different and they are "racially impure"? Yeah, that's virtually all of Asia (as well as other parts of the world), and I have never heard any member of the clergy call them out.

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I think it's the same reasoning behind why Israel and Hamas is treated differently. You speak to people where they're at. I hold Israel to a higher standard than I hold Hamas, as they're a rich first world country, and Hamas is a bunch of paleolithic terrorists.

Also, Japan's population is .35% Catholic, and I think Korea is under 10% although it's growing, so they don't have gigantic audiences there like in the USA.

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Well I am sick of Catholic priests and bishops who think it is 'evil' to have borders and to enforce them. That we need to just let in infinity unvetted military aged males from third world countries who will make American streets less safe for our families. ZERO biblical basis for such insane malarkey. Having border, or immigration law, doesn't mean you hate everyone who is not American...yet that is how it is dishonestly framed.

I get that they need to keep their ponzi scheme going somehow, but I don't have to support it.

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Don't be sick of it my friend, because it's not actually happening. The Pope acknowledges that open borders aren't possible and acknowledges the right of the nation to control who comes in, I think he takes umbrage with the means in which we're doing it.

I'll give you my thoughts on the situation after Pope Leo XIV dies. What I can tell you is that Pope Francis (rest in peace) was much more vocal on the situation, in a negative light, and didn't appreciate the desperate situation we were in, that called for desperate measures.

Bad ideas is a timeless tradition.

Watermelon Man said:

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My memory tells me Jesus flipped tables because capitalists had set-up shop in a temple and were taking advantage of the poor and travelers. The temple had become a marketplace where profit was put ahead of spirituality, taking advantage of the less fortunate.

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It wasn't capitalism, it was selfishness...which existed long before capitalism and isn't tied to a particular economic viewpoint. Humans have always been prey to craving power and enriching themselves, there is no political or economic movement that avoids it.

The other problem Jesus had with the temple and its leaders was their fake virtue-signaling and appearance of being 'holy' and 'important' and 'helping the needy' to the regular people while being greedy and sinful underneath the disguise. Again, no political/economic movement or denomination of the modern church are above those tendencies either. It's something every human has to wrestle with, no matter their societal position.

Watermelon Man said:

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TxSquarebody said:

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Watermelon Man said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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Severian the Torturer said:

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Weird how you didn't correct the poster who brought up prayer rooms for Muslims in the Vatican

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Maybe because I don't care one way or the other if the Vatican offers prayer rooms to onsite Muslim scholars. But if you had to press me on it, it just seems like a decent thing the Vatican is doing to accommodate fellow humans. So good on them for it, honestly.

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Jesus flipped tables for similar. This is disgusting behavior by the church.

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My memory tells me Jesus flipped tables because capitalists had set-up shop in a temple and were taking advantage of the poor and travelers. The temple had become a marketplace where profit was put ahead of spirituality, taking advantage of the less fortunate.

The phrase 'a house of prayer for all nations' comes to mind. In that sense, the by providing prayer rooms for others in the Vatican (not St. Peter's Basilica) is simply following Christ's teachings.

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He flipped the tables and beat the SOCIALISTS who shrunk the middle class by relagating them to the poor, thereby dependent on them.
Also, had everything to do with where they were conducting business and less about the business. If you didn't know, now you do.

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I didn't know SOCIALISTS existed in Christ's time. Must have taken Karl Marx by surprise.

Or, perhaps you are trying to spin way too hard?

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You and your cohorts are doing the spinning. It was yall that called Jesus socialist.

Watermelon Man said:

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TxSquarebody said:

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Watermelon Man said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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Severian the Torturer said:

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Weird how you didn't correct the poster who brought up prayer rooms for Muslims in the Vatican

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Maybe because I don't care one way or the other if the Vatican offers prayer rooms to onsite Muslim scholars. But if you had to press me on it, it just seems like a decent thing the Vatican is doing to accommodate fellow humans. So good on them for it, honestly.

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Jesus flipped tables for similar. This is disgusting behavior by the church.

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My memory tells me Jesus flipped tables because capitalists had set-up shop in a temple and were taking advantage of the poor and travelers. The temple had become a marketplace where profit was put ahead of spirituality, taking advantage of the less fortunate.

The phrase 'a house of prayer for all nations' comes to mind. In that sense, the by providing prayer rooms for others in the Vatican (not St. Peter's Basilica) is simply following Christ's teachings.

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He flipped the tables and beat the SOCIALISTS who shrunk the middle class by relagating them to the poor, thereby dependent on them.
Also, had everything to do with where they were conducting business and less about the business. If you didn't know, now you do.

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I didn't know SOCIALISTS existed in Christ's time. Must have taken Karl Marx by surprise.

Or, perhaps you are trying to spin way too hard?

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Um, you were the one to initially anachronize "capatalist". Kind of hypocritical to subsequently move the goal posts on time period specific nomenclature.

Also, for the record, "socialism" as formally defined predates Marx by about 100 years.

Ever heard the guy Jacobin? I mean, he's only the godfather of your entire political philosophy.

Many fellow Christians don't want to hear this, but Socialism is much more inline with Church Teaching than Capitalism is. The only downfall with Socialism is that it doesn't actually work except in extremely small in-groups that value the group above the individual.

"From each according to his ability to each according to their need" is fundamentally beautiful provided it's voluntary and not theft.

Again, this is all just philosophical because socialism will not work, except in extremely jerrymandered circumstances.

Severian the Torturer said:

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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Severian the Torturer said:

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Rapier108 said:

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🚨 ROME HAS FALLEN

For the first time ever, the Vatican has built a Muslim prayer room inside its Apostolic Library.

While Christians are banned from Mecca, while no church stands in Saudi Arabia, and while Europe’s cathedrals are being turned into mosques, Pope Leo XIV… pic.twitter.com/GoCsgz1iBQ

— Tony Seruga (@TonySeruga) April 13, 2026

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So the Christian church is allowing pagans to worship their gods inside of Christ's Church.

We are truly in the last days.

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By a strict interpretation of the definition of God [omnipotent (all-powerful), omnipresent (everywhere present), and omniscient (all-knowing)] then Allah is the God of Jews and Christians.

https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/essay/omnipotence-omniscience-omnipresence-god/

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Except for the fact that Jews think Christ is a common criminal at best, and a blasphemer boiling alive in human excrement for eternity at worse, while muslims think he's the 2nd most important prophet of islam, and the son of God and the virgin Mary, which makes sense when you realize Islam is really just a tribal garbling of Nestorian Christianity.

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Any thread you're on always devolves into this. You literally cant help yourself.

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Sorry, I forgot the only approved Politics board ecumenical discussion revolves around supporting Israel and glassing the Middle East.

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Take the religion hating to the Religion board...

Severian the Torturer said:

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Many fellow Christians don't want to hear this, but Socialism is much more inline with Church Teaching than Capitalism is. The only downfall with Socialism is that it doesn't actually work except in extremely small in-groups that value the group above the individual.

"From each according to his ability to each according to their need" is fundamentally beautiful provided it's voluntary and not theft.

Again, this is all just philosophical because socialism will not work, except in extremely jerrymandered circumstances.

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I think you could make a pretty reasonable argument that The Torah established the worlds first constitutional republic.

Although social welfare is quite important, personal property rights literally make the top 10 twice, so it's definitely nothing modern socialists would embrace.

Severian the Torturer said:

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Many fellow Christians don't want to hear this, but Socialism is much more inline with Church Teaching than Capitalism is. The only downfall with Socialism is that it doesn't actually work except in extremely small in-groups that value the group above the individual.

"From each according to his ability to each according to their need" is fundamentally beautiful provided it's voluntary and not theft.

Again, this is all just philosophical because socialism will not work, except in extremely jerrymandered circumstances.

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You have no idea what socialism is, then. People helping their neighbors and those in need is not socialism.

Watermelon Man said:

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Hardcore Greg said:

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Severian the Torturer said:

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Hardcore Greg said:

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One of my main problems with all of these recent Catholic talking heads (as well as virtually all liberals) is how they ONLY seem to hold predominantly white, Western nations to certain "moral" standards when it comes to national soveriegnty and immigration policy and enforcement.

But predominantly brown countries are beautiful and Wakanda-like and should remain homogeneous and protect themselves at all costs from the evil white colonizers.

The Pope and his liberal underlings who have infested the church will demonize us because we don't just let the entire world pour into our country and turn it upside down, but at the same time, view extremely racist and xenophobic places (by our standards) like Japan, China and Korea as 'special places', rich in history and culture, to be preserved.

Can you imagine, if, no matter how many generations they had been here, we never recognized Asian-Americans as full citizens, same as you and me, because their eyes are different and they are "racially impure"? Yeah, that's virtually all of Asia (as well as other parts of the world), and I have never heard any member of the clergy call them out.

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I think it's the same reasoning behind why Israel and Hamas is treated differently. You speak to people where they're at. I hold Israel to a higher standard than I hold Hamas, as they're a rich first world country, and Hamas is a bunch of paleolithic terrorists.

Also, Japan's population is .35% Catholic, and I think Korea is under 10% although it's growing, so they don't have gigantic audiences there like in the USA.

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Well I am sick of Catholic priests and bishops who think it is 'evil' to have borders and to enforce them. That we need to just let in infinity unvetted military aged males from third world countries who will make American streets less safe for our families. ZERO biblical basis for such insane malarkey. Having border, or immigration law, doesn't mean you hate everyone who is not American...yet that is how it is dishonestly framed.

I get that they need to keep their ponzi scheme going somehow, but I don't have to support it.

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I know of no Catholic priests (bishops included) who think it is 'evil' to have borders and to enforce them.

What they are becoming increasingly vocal about is the unmitigated cruelty being exercised.

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What "unmitigated cruelty"? Between those protesting immigration laws and interfering with carrying them out, and illegal immigrants fighting LEOs, Im not sure they have executed "cruelty" as a policy.

Severian the Torturer said:

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Many fellow Christians don't want to hear this, but Socialism is much more inline with Church Teaching than Capitalism is. The only downfall with Socialism is that it doesn't actually work except in extremely small in-groups that value the group above the individual.

"From each according to his ability to each according to their need" is fundamentally beautiful provided it's voluntary and not theft.

Again, this is all just philosophical because socialism will not work, except in extremely jerrymandered circumstances.

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You might want to look up JPII's views on socialism.

According to the marxists, simply detaining people who commit crimes is "unmitigated cruelty."

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Severian the Torturer said:

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Many fellow Christians don't want to hear this, but Socialism is much more inline with Church Teaching than Capitalism is. The only downfall with Socialism is that it doesn't actually work except in extremely small in-groups that value the group above the individual.

"From each according to his ability to each according to their need" is fundamentally beautiful provided it's voluntary and not theft.

Again, this is all just philosophical because socialism will not work, except in extremely jerrymandered circumstances.

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You have no idea what socialism is, then. People helping their neighbors and those in need is not socialism.

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Where did I say otherwise?

StandUpforAmerica said:

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Severian the Torturer said:

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Many fellow Christians don't want to hear this, but Socialism is much more inline with Church Teaching than Capitalism is. The only downfall with Socialism is that it doesn't actually work except in extremely small in-groups that value the group above the individual.

"From each according to his ability to each according to their need" is fundamentally beautiful provided it's voluntary and not theft.

Again, this is all just philosophical because socialism will not work, except in extremely jerrymandered circumstances.

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You might want to look up JPII's views on socialism.

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John Paul II? The champion of labor unions who argued in Centesimus Annus that laborers must be paid a just wage, have the right to form unions, and should not be treated as expendable tools when they lose their productivity due to age?

The Solidarity Movement in Poland, that helped break the back of the USSR, was led by a Trade Union and supported by Pope St.John Paul II.

The "socialism" supported by myself and Pope St.John Paul II has nothing to do with Marxism.

Severian the Torturer said:

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Phatbob said:

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Severian the Torturer said:

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Many fellow Christians don't want to hear this, but Socialism is much more inline with Church Teaching than Capitalism is. The only downfall with Socialism is that it doesn't actually work except in extremely small in-groups that value the group above the individual.

"From each according to his ability to each according to their need" is fundamentally beautiful provided it's voluntary and not theft.

Again, this is all just philosophical because socialism will not work, except in extremely jerrymandered circumstances.

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You have no idea what socialism is, then. People helping their neighbors and those in need is not socialism.

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Where did I say otherwise?

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Then what do you think is "Socialism" that aligns with the Bible? There is nothing in there that is inline with Socialism... Unless of course you are just referring to "Church Teaching" as some Catholic tradition. You may have a small point there.

I don't always agree with you my man, but your encyclopedic knowledge of the encyclicals is always quite impressive.

You take your faith quite seriously and put in the work to understand and communicate it when pressed. #respect

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They are interviewing three priests who have zero understanding of history. And the new Pope is as same as the old. Total woke loser.

First, they are condeming war and Trump. Have they ever opened a history book and studied how much war the Catholics have been involved in throughout the last 2,000 years?

Then they go on to condemn ICE and the fact that they wear masks and are opposed to us trying to keep our borders sovereign.

I hope these Cardinals CBS found don't speak for the entire church but good God these people are ridiculous.

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Doesn't make your evangelical b.s. any less compelling or any less irritating.

So, why don't you look at your own house.

Pope Now Recommending Christians Pray The Rosary While Facing Mecca https://t.co/hhWiTTXGJ0 pic.twitter.com/76iZJxLqUH

— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) April 14, 2026

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johnnyblaze36 said:

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They are interviewing three priests who have zero understanding of history. And the new Pope is as same as the old. Total woke loser.

First, they are condeming war and Trump. Have they ever opened a history book and studied how much war the Catholics have been involved in throughout the last 2,000 years?

Then they go on to condemn ICE and the fact that they wear masks and are opposed to us trying to keep our borders sovereign.

I hope these Cardinals CBS found don't speak for the entire church but good God these people are ridiculous.

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Doesn't make your evangelical b.s. any less compelling or any less irritating.

So, why don't you look at your own house.

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Deflect, deflect, deflect!

Tex117 said:

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johnnyblaze36 said:

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They are interviewing three priests who have zero understanding of history. And the new Pope is as same as the old. Total woke loser.

First, they are condeming war and Trump. Have they ever opened a history book and studied how much war the Catholics have been involved in throughout the last 2,000 years?

Then they go on to condemn ICE and the fact that they wear masks and are opposed to us trying to keep our borders sovereign.

I hope these Cardinals CBS found don't speak for the entire church but good God these people are ridiculous.

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Doesn't make your evangelical b.s. any less compelling or any less irritating.

So, why don't you look at your own house.

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I think because "his house" doesn't have some over-arching father figure who speaks with his authority to millions and is constantly attacking the one country in the world doing more good than any other.

As a protestant, my pastor is the only one with spiritual authority over me. If I am sure he is not following the Bible, I am free to leave. There is no church board who has authority over my faith.

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Many fellow Christians don't want to hear this, but Socialism is much more inline with Church Teaching than Capitalism is. The only downfall with Socialism is that it doesn't actually work except in extremely small in-groups that value the group above the individual.

"From each according to his ability to each according to their need" is fundamentally beautiful provided it's voluntary and not theft.

Again, this is all just philosophical because socialism will not work, except in extremely jerrymandered circumstances.

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You might want to look up JPII's views on socialism.

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John Paul II? The champion of labor unions who argued in Centesimus Annus that laborers must be paid a just wage, have the right to form unions, and should not be treated as expendable tools when they lose their productivity due to age?

The Solidarity Movement in Poland, that helped break the back of the USSR, was led by a Trade Union and supported by Pope St.John Paul II.

The "socialism" supported by myself and Pope St.John Paul II has nothing to do with Marxism.

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Again, you might want to do a little more reading on his views. Here's one of his quotes to help you get started...

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"…the fundamental error of socialism is anthropological in nature. Socialism considers the individual person simply as an element, a molecule within the social organism, so that the good of the individual is completely subordinated to the functioning of the socio-economic mechanism. Socialism likewise maintains that the good of the individual is completely subordinated to the functioning of the socio-economic mechanism. Socialism likewise maintains that the good of the individual can be realized without reference to his free choice, to the unique and exclusive responsibility which he exercises in the face of good or evil. Man is thus reduced to a series of social relationships, and the concept of the person as the autonomous subject of moral decisions disappears, the very subject whose decisions build the social order."

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Severian the Torturer said:

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Phatbob said:

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Severian the Torturer said:

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Many fellow Christians don't want to hear this, but Socialism is much more inline with Church Teaching than Capitalism is. The only downfall with Socialism is that it doesn't actually work except in extremely small in-groups that value the group above the individual.

"From each according to his ability to each according to their need" is fundamentally beautiful provided it's voluntary and not theft.

Again, this is all just philosophical because socialism will not work, except in extremely jerrymandered circumstances.

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You have no idea what socialism is, then. People helping their neighbors and those in need is not socialism.

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Where did I say otherwise?

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Then what do you think is "Socialism" that aligns with the Bible? There is nothing in there that is inline with Socialism... Unless of course you are just referring to "Church Teaching" as some Catholic tradition. You may have a small point there.

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That society is ordered to the family, and not the individual, and that those with the means to help those that truly can't help themselves, should. That laborers should be paid enough to live and raise a family, and that they have an obligation to ownership, just as ownership has an obligation to them.