60 Minutes/The Catholic Church is a joke

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B-1 83 said:

Oh. The world needs more arms. Got it.


I will say, you stay true to your programming. Incapable of deviation.
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Ellis Wyatt
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OK.

Where was Jussie?
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LOL
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B-1 83 said:

Oh. The world needs more arms. Got it.

Damn straight it does. In the hands of the people of England, Canada, Australia... look what happened to the freedoms of people around the world as the governments disarmed their people.
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Phatbob said:

B-1 83 said:

Oh. The world needs more arms. Got it.

Damn straight it does. In the hands of the people of England, Canada, Australia... look what happened to the freedoms of people around the world as the governments disarmed their people.

I'm talking about cartels, Crips, Bloods, Hamas, etc……
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
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B-1 83 said:

Phatbob said:

B-1 83 said:

Oh. The world needs more arms. Got it.

Damn straight it does. In the hands of the people of England, Canada, Australia... look what happened to the freedoms of people around the world as the governments disarmed their people.

I'm talking about cartels, Crips, Bloods, Hamas, etc……

Ahh, yes, well, your Pope just decried the actions of trying to disarm those guys, so....
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I don't fault any of the charities for their work, or for accepting tax dollars.

The blame for funding in that matter lies directly at the government for deciding to appropriate tax dollars and make the application for those grants available for charities to use.

It used to be that Our government realized it can't effectively manage and distribute tax dollars toward "common good" issues (migrant care, poverty, etc) and also it wasn't politically smart to say we are going to tax you to redistribute to the needy, so instead they slyly changed it to grant and aid that local charities could then appropriately and more effectively distribute.

Being that most charitable groups were faith based, it makes sense that small faith based charity applied and received the funds to then support their missions, and the government should not discriminate against faith based groups just because they are faith based, regardless of the faith. It should be equal opportunity for any charity to apply and receive grant funds, if made available, by the government.

Our ire should be more at the government for delegating its responsibilities, if you feel it's their responsibility, and or for enabling the system to flourish as is if you feel that it isn't the role of government.

If I have to choose the lesser of two evils, I'd rather tax dollars be made available to smaller local charities that have more accountability than government goons than have more govt agencies that are slow and wasteful.


Ideally, I'd rather taxes be cut, debt reduced and provide me my money back so that I can support the local charity close to my home, faith or secular, that does the most good.

All of this discussion by government continues to divide us, from being united while the government wheel continues to grind us down because we are divided and fighting about Catholics v Protestant groups, etc. meanwhile the communist rats are at the door and when they take full power the taxes will remain, gov goons will take over and we will all be worse for it.
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B-1 83 said:

Phatbob said:

B-1 83 said:

Oh. The world needs more arms. Got it.

Damn straight it does. In the hands of the people of England, Canada, Australia... look what happened to the freedoms of people around the world as the governments disarmed their people.

I'm talking about cartels, Crips, Bloods, Hamas, etc……

So like...tougher border security and taking action to ensure Iran doesn't have the capabilities to arm terrorist groups like Hamas? Yeah, it would be great if The Vatican was on the same page as the United States with those things.
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Monkeypoxfighter said:

Gigem314 said:

Logos Stick said:



I just find it amusing that in our country we love to mock wealthy evangelical ministers who live in expensive mansions for telling others how they need to live...but at the same time some of those same people think we're supposed to fawn at the words of a man who lives in his own city that's surrounded by walls/security that doesn't welcome in any migrant...as he tells everyone else they aren't doing enough and need to welcome everyone into their communities.

No matter how many times this gets put in an anti-Pope thread, it doesn't make it true. Security? If yiu think the Pope doesn't need security, you have no business breathing, much less posting, and only a small part of Vatican City has walls……1000+ year old walls….meant to keep literal armies bent on death and enslavement out.

Even with its tiny size (.17 sq miles) the Vatican has allowed a few refugees in. I'll let you look up and correct your own mistake.

So what you are saying is: He does live in his own city (no matter how small it is), it does have walls (regardless of their condition) and he is surrounded by security (needed or not, which of course, he does need)? What part is untrue again?

Are you saying that refugees have taken up permanent residence in Vatican City?
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Gigem314 said:

B-1 83 said:

Phatbob said:

B-1 83 said:

Oh. The world needs more arms. Got it.

Damn straight it does. In the hands of the people of England, Canada, Australia... look what happened to the freedoms of people around the world as the governments disarmed their people.

I'm talking about cartels, Crips, Bloods, Hamas, etc……

So like...tougher border security and taking action to ensure Iran doesn't have the capabilities to arm terrorist groups like Hamas? Yeah, it would be great if The Vatican was on the same page as the United States with those things.

Hardly the gotcha you imagined in your head…..
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
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B-1 83 said:

Gigem314 said:

B-1 83 said:

Phatbob said:

B-1 83 said:

Oh. The world needs more arms. Got it.

Damn straight it does. In the hands of the people of England, Canada, Australia... look what happened to the freedoms of people around the world as the governments disarmed their people.

I'm talking about cartels, Crips, Bloods, Hamas, etc……

So like...tougher border security and taking action to ensure Iran doesn't have the capabilities to arm terrorist groups like Hamas? Yeah, it would be great if The Vatican was on the same page as the United States with those things.

Hardly the gotcha you imagined in your head…..

Translation: "I have nothing to argue, but your comment bothers me"
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Gigem314 said:

B-1 83 said:

Gigem314 said:

B-1 83 said:

Phatbob said:

B-1 83 said:

Oh. The world needs more arms. Got it.

Damn straight it does. In the hands of the people of England, Canada, Australia... look what happened to the freedoms of people around the world as the governments disarmed their people.

I'm talking about cartels, Crips, Bloods, Hamas, etc……

So like...tougher border security and taking action to ensure Iran doesn't have the capabilities to arm terrorist groups like Hamas? Yeah, it would be great if The Vatican was on the same page as the United States with those things.

Hardly the gotcha you imagined in your head…..

Translation: "I have nothing to argue, but your comment bothers me"


Translation: Many global church leaders have called for peace, not just the Pope, but I understand this is F16 and that concept is foreign in a Pope bashing thread.

https://wcrc.eu/joint-statement-global-christian-leaders-call-for-peace/

https://lutheranworld.org/news/christian-leaders-join-appeal-gift-peace
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
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Gigem314 said:

B-1 83 said:

Gigem314 said:

B-1 83 said:

Phatbob said:

B-1 83 said:

Oh. The world needs more arms. Got it.

Damn straight it does. In the hands of the people of England, Canada, Australia... look what happened to the freedoms of people around the world as the governments disarmed their people.

I'm talking about cartels, Crips, Bloods, Hamas, etc……

So like...tougher border security and taking action to ensure Iran doesn't have the capabilities to arm terrorist groups like Hamas? Yeah, it would be great if The Vatican was on the same page as the United States with those things.

Hardly the gotcha you imagined in your head…..

Translation: "I have nothing to argue, but your comment bothers me"


Even when they do argue, they prove their opponent's point. Very confusing to me.
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96%? I honestly think catholic charities is "catholic"in name only. It's government sponsored trafficking.

End the government part and let them serve whatever purpose they want.


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These are not legit charities...this is another Clinton Foundation fraud scheme. This looks like outright trafficking.
“It was miraculous. It was almost no trick at all, he saw, to turn vice into virtue and slander into truth, impotence into abstinence, arrogance into humility, plunder into philanthropy, thievery into honor, blasphemy into wisdom, brutality into patriotism, and sadism into justice. Anybody could do it; it required no brains at all. It merely required no character.”
Joseph Heller, Catch 22
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13B said:

Monkeypoxfighter said:

Gigem314 said:

Logos Stick said:



I just find it amusing that in our country we love to mock wealthy evangelical ministers who live in expensive mansions for telling others how they need to live...but at the same time some of those same people think we're supposed to fawn at the words of a man who lives in his own city that's surrounded by walls/security that doesn't welcome in any migrant...as he tells everyone else they aren't doing enough and need to welcome everyone into their communities.

No matter how many times this gets put in an anti-Pope thread, it doesn't make it true. Security? If yiu think the Pope doesn't need security, you have no business breathing, much less posting, and only a small part of Vatican City has walls……1000+ year old walls….meant to keep literal armies bent on death and enslavement out.

Even with its tiny size (.17 sq miles) the Vatican has allowed a few refugees in. I'll let you look up and correct your own mistake.

So what you are saying is: He does live in his own city (no matter how small it is), it does have walls (regardless of their condition) and he is surrounded by security (needed or not, which of course, he does need)? What part is untrue again?

Are you saying that refugees have taken up permanent residence in Vatican City?
We visited St. Peter's Square just a few weeks ago. All they did was check bags on the way in.
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Seems like the Pope and his minions wanted to get ahead of getting their funding cut because they knew it would come out just how poorly it was "organized" (a vessel to pay off people, traffic children, and steal). So they went on the offensive. Fortunately most younger people see through the charade, even the young Catholics.
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B-1 83 said:

Gigem314 said:

B-1 83 said:

Gigem314 said:

B-1 83 said:

Phatbob said:

B-1 83 said:

Oh. The world needs more arms. Got it.

Damn straight it does. In the hands of the people of England, Canada, Australia... look what happened to the freedoms of people around the world as the governments disarmed their people.

I'm talking about cartels, Crips, Bloods, Hamas, etc……

So like...tougher border security and taking action to ensure Iran doesn't have the capabilities to arm terrorist groups like Hamas? Yeah, it would be great if The Vatican was on the same page as the United States with those things.

Hardly the gotcha you imagined in your head…..

Translation: "I have nothing to argue, but your comment bothers me"


Translation: Many global church leaders have called for peace, not just the Pope, but I understand this is F16 and that concept is foreign in a Pope bashing thread.

https://wcrc.eu/joint-statement-global-christian-leaders-call-for-peace/

https://lutheranworld.org/news/christian-leaders-join-appeal-gift-peace

No need to get sensitive. I'm simply pointing out the actions the U.S. has taken with immigration/border and Iran are aimed at dealing with serious problems that have negative consequences for innocent people. It seems those policies aren't viewed as a positive by certain religious leaders, and that is their opinion to make. That doesn't make them above debate or criticism though. That is not 'bashing the Pope' - and I'm certainly doing none of those things. So perhaps channel your frustration to someone else instead of posturing.
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“It was miraculous. It was almost no trick at all, he saw, to turn vice into virtue and slander into truth, impotence into abstinence, arrogance into humility, plunder into philanthropy, thievery into honor, blasphemy into wisdom, brutality into patriotism, and sadism into justice. Anybody could do it; it required no brains at all. It merely required no character.”
Joseph Heller, Catch 22
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WaltonAg18 said:

13B said:

Monkeypoxfighter said:

Gigem314 said:

Logos Stick said:



I just find it amusing that in our country we love to mock wealthy evangelical ministers who live in expensive mansions for telling others how they need to live...but at the same time some of those same people think we're supposed to fawn at the words of a man who lives in his own city that's surrounded by walls/security that doesn't welcome in any migrant...as he tells everyone else they aren't doing enough and need to welcome everyone into their communities.

No matter how many times this gets put in an anti-Pope thread, it doesn't make it true. Security? If yiu think the Pope doesn't need security, you have no business breathing, much less posting, and only a small part of Vatican City has walls……1000+ year old walls….meant to keep literal armies bent on death and enslavement out.

Even with its tiny size (.17 sq miles) the Vatican has allowed a few refugees in. I'll let you look up and correct your own mistake.

So what you are saying is: He does live in his own city (no matter how small it is), it does have walls (regardless of their condition) and he is surrounded by security (needed or not, which of course, he does need)? What part is untrue again?

Are you saying that refugees have taken up permanent residence in Vatican City?

We visited St. Peter's Square just a few weeks ago. All they did was check bags on the way in.



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The irony is so thick, you'd need a powerful laser to cut through it.
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Logos Stick said:


No, I don't want the death cultists in my country Leo!



They're already here and have been for a long time. Don't like it, but that's our reality.
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samurai_science said:



Can you post the actual tweets? I am sure the twitter user "KanekoaTheGreat" is very legit. But Reagan taught me to trust but verify
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WaltonAg18 said:

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WaltonAg18 said:

Anyone surprised about what Pope Leo is simply willfully ignorant. The Church has been very consistent about their themes and messaging for the last 1500 years. Everything that he has said corresponds to the true ideals of being pro-life, even for our enemies. How fortunate that the usual "but I go to church every Sunday it doesn't matter if I wish death on liberals and tyrants" posturing done here is finally facing some pushback.

This is completely false. Have you been awake since 2015 and have you seen how the Catholic church has reacted to the topic of gay marriage? Just wanted to add that on as an item in which nearly every Democrat policy maker on Capitol Hill (start with Nancy) claims they are some great Catholic steward.

What do they do intead of your assertion? Abortion on demand. Gay/Trans for everyobdy. Let everyone and their mother and dog into our country unchecked, etc. And then have the audacity to criticize our country from their shiny, walled in, painted palace.

The Pope is not some infallible being, especially Leo and all of the ones before him. In fact, the dude is wrong about practically everything and should just stfu.


Thank you for showing everyone that you are incapable of doing your own research. I'm going to say this as gently as I can since staff has my posts under a microscope at the moment.

The Church maintains to this day that proper marriages are lifelong, open to procreation, and heterosexual. You're likely thinking of what Pope Francis allowed, which was the blessing of those couples - the same way those who are not Catholic can receive a blessing at every single Catholic mass around the world.

Senile politicians who have received the Sacraments =/= the Catholic Church and its leadership. The same way that many so-called Catholic Republicans are more than happy to whisk their impregnated staffers to other states to murder the extramarital child. Politicians lie, more at seven.


The rest of your post is just nonsense, entirely based on fantasy. Unless, of course, you're capable of providing a shred of evidence.

You're correct in saying the Pope is not infallible in all things. Catholics do not believe he is 100% infallible. He also does not claim to be infallible unless he is speaking from the chair of Peter, whom you might remember from a little book that's usually stored on the back of a pew. I recommend you pick it up again and give it a once over.

I will respond to your nonsense tomorrow and dismantle it all. I promise.

Where did you go after the David Axelrod and Pope Leo news came out? Chirp chirp.
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Pope is a commie.

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The woke Pope strikes again! When will he answer for his crimes against F16 ideals that are entirely based on scripture??

And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to Me’
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WaltonAg18 said:

The woke Pope strikes again! When will he answer for his crimes against F16 ideals that are entirely based on scripture??



Well here is something the Pope and I agree on. Of course, as a Catholic, I will never forget the 2nd Black Bag Money grabs for sexual abuse payoffs and sending pedos all over the country.
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This is part of the reinvention of American government that happened in the 90s. Republicans thought that small local faith based charities would be more efficient than government and distributing aid. We didn't envision the capture of those grants by ever larger conglomerates that are staffed by abject socialists, thereby creating a class of people that could espouse socialist values that would not be allowed under law if they were government employees. We did it to ourselves so we need to root the NGOs out root and stock and create efficient accountable aid distribution.
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chiphijason said:

This is part of the reinvention of American government that happened in the 90s. Republicans thought that small local faith based charities would be more efficient than government and distributing aid. We didn't envision the capture of those grants by ever larger conglomerates that are staffed by abject socialists, thereby creating a class of people that could espouse socialist values that would not be allowed under law if they were government employees. We did it to ourselves so we need to root the NGOs out root and stock and create efficient accountable aid distribution.


Completely agree. We need a full review and accountability of every dollar to every organization that receive them. And for all monies sent, a full audit and criteria of dispersion.

The current systems is bloated and well beyond what is sustainable.
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And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to Me’
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japantiger said:



He's not wrong.
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Wow this thread has devolved.
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It is absurd. All the posts on here denouncing the Catholic Church and it goes unchecked. The few Jewish comments get zapped right away. Makes no sense at all. It should be equal but I will take the Catholics over the Jews any day.
 
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