oldyeller said:Phatbob said:Severian the Torturer said:Phatbob said:Severian the Torturer said:
Many fellow Christians don't want to hear this, but Socialism is much more inline with Church Teaching than Capitalism is. The only downfall with Socialism is that it doesn't actually work except in extremely small in-groups that value the group above the individual.
"From each according to his ability to each according to their need" is fundamentally beautiful provided it's voluntary and not theft.
Again, this is all just philosophical because socialism will not work, except in extremely jerrymandered circumstances.
You have no idea what socialism is, then. People helping their neighbors and those in need is not socialism.
Where did I say otherwise?
Then what do you think is "Socialism" that aligns with the Bible? There is nothing in there that is inline with Socialism... Unless of course you are just referring to "Church Teaching" as some Catholic tradition. You may have a small point there.
One could see how socialism might be inferred from Acts 4:32-35, if one focused on the "no one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had" and taking the proceeds of large sales of property to the leaders for distribution to the needy.Quote:
32 All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had. 33 With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And God's grace was so powerfully at work in them all 34 that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales 35 and put it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need.
Sounds like a voluntary situation there. Socialism in any modern sense has forced participation, and government (or whoever ultimately controls the group) forces it.
Perhaps breaking it down into Utopian socialism (voluntary) and Socialism (capital S) makes sense, but with deference to whatever church or community was being talked about in those verses in Acts, neither works because of human nature.