2013 Free Agent Movement thread

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Kaman looks like he could have been the one putting people through the wood-chipper in Fargo
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Actual quote from Bynum in Clevelnad article today...yeah no thanks
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http://www.ohio.com/sports/cavaliers-offer-andrew-bynum-two-year-deal-1.411645

As expected, Bynum did not work out for the Cavaliers on Monday. But the medical staff was able to examine his knees, a league source told the Beacon Journal, speaking on condition of anonymity due to the sensitive nature of the negotiations.

Bynum was property of the Philadelphia 76ers last season, but didn’t appear in a game. The Cavs were involved in trade discussions for him last summer before he went to the 76ers in a four-team trade that also involved Howard.

Bynum only practiced once with the Sixers, on Feb. 22, and the swelling in his right knee prevented him from stepping on the court again.

In his final media interview on March 1, Bynum said there wasn’t a surgical procedure invented that could guarantee his return to basketball and he said he didn’t want to play in pain.

“I think I’ll be able to play in some form or fashion in the future,” Bynum said then. “I think they are getting close with things to do for articular cartilage. They just grew cartilage in a Petri dish, so I think science is looking at it, doctors are looking at it and this is a serious problem and they’re going to come up with something.”

Bynum made $16.9 million with the Sixers last season.
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Sounds like he is done for good. I fully expect Joe Dumars to work out a max deal to S&T for him.
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Anyone who takes a chance on this clown after what he did to Philly is an idiot. That being said....wtf are you thinking Dan Gilbert?
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Sher Thing
posted 5:03p, 07/08/13



7 teams remain that have more than the MLE to offer: Atlanta, Cleveland, Dallas, Detroit, Orlando, Philadelphia and Sacramento.
IS this the list of teams that could bid on Amnesty World Peace? Could get interesting!
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Does no one know Mike Brown....Bynum....I mean. Wow
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Unless a team wants to pay over 7.7mm for Artest, he gets the same amount. So he will just sign where he wants to sign. His new salary will be deducted from what the Lakers have to pay him.
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If a team that's under the cap puts in a bid to claim Artest off waivers, than he has to report to that team. (the highest bidder).

I don't think any team under the cap will place a bid and in that case means he cleared waivers and then becomes an un-restricted free agent. At that point he can sign wherever he wants besides back with LAL.
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Unless a team wants to pay over 7.7mm for Artest, he gets the same amount. So he will just sign where he wants to sign. His new salary will be deducted from what the Lakers have to pay him.
you need to review how the amnesty bidding process works. Whoever submits the highest bid gets him and it doesn't have to be his full salary.
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I might be mistaken but initially if a team is interested they can offer to pay the full waiver amount then if nobody is interested a bidding war takes place to claim him on partial waiver meaning the high bidder pays the amount they bid and LA pays the rest .... If nobody does the full or partial he becomes a UFA
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you need to review how the amnesty bidding process works. Whoever submits the highest bid gets him and it doesn't have to be his full salary.

artest will get paid 7.7M this season in salary. Soup is saying that regardless of whether a team wants to pay him 500K or 6M, that new contract amount is deducted from the total 7.7M that he's owed by the lakers as you had mentioned

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I might be mistaken but initially if a team is interested they can offer to pay the full waiver amount then if nobody is interested a bidding war takes place to claim him on partial waiver meaning the high bidder pays the amount they bid and LA pays the rest .... If nobody does the full or partial he becomes a UFA

yeah that's pretty much the process

[This message has been edited by Token (edited 7/9/2013 9:02a).]
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artest will get paid 7.7M this season in salary. Soup is saying that regardless of whether a team wants to pay him 500K or 6M, that new contract amount is deducted from the total 7.7M that he's owed by the lakers as you had mentioned



Exactly. And Artest can dictate who gets him, because who honestly wants to deal with an unhappy Artest?

The teams that will be in the running are OKC, Houston, SA and Miami. I would be very surprised if he went anywhere else.

No one wants to deal with Artest just so they can have a better shot to make the playoffs.
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Not sure how you don't have NYC/NJ on that list

Is be surprised if he didn't go back to Queensbridge
Sher Thing
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Ya I could see NY as a possibility.
Simplebay
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Or China
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Aren't Brooklyn and NY already way over the cap?
Sher Thing
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Vet Min.
Ulrich
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I was thinking more about cost vs. revenue than salary cap considerations. They are shelling out a crap ton of money, would they pay even more?
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I can use a Jay-Z lyric to understand the difference between your thinking of money and an owner's thinking

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Sure I do, I tell you the difference between me and them
They tryin to get they ones, I'm tryin to get them M's
Ulrich
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I can't understand that lyric. I assume that your implication is that Artest may be considered the missing piece that will turn a pretty good team into a title team, thereby dramatically improving revenues.

My thought is that Artest will not make either team significantly better, not better enough to draw in new fans and revenue. They are already in the playoffs, and at this stage Artest is probably not good enough to push them into elite status.
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I'm saying paying artest 1M or 2M is absolutely nothing to owners. You're thinking as if it's breaking the bank, when to the owners it's a rounding error
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Jay-Z is a muhfuggin RENNNNEGAAAADE
Iowaggie
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Jermaine O'Neal to the Warriors.
(They also signed Mo Speights)
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didn't expect that
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well, 1-2 mm is a lot different than 6-7mm.
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the team that acquires artest will pay him nothing close to 6-7M
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Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 4s
RT @SpearsNBAYahoo: Mavs free agent guard Anthony Morrow close to accepting deal with Pelicans, source tells Y! Sports
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Token
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tyler hansbrough to the raptors on a 2 year deal

Jordan Farmar to the lakers on a 1 year deal
Guitarsoup
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Monta Ellis fires his agent.
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His agent didn't shoot <30% on threes and isn't the one allergic to defense.
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His agent did convince him to opt out of a 1y11mm contract. [Alternatively, if he didn't convince him to opt out, he did not prevent him from opting out]
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He also turned down a 3y36mm contract that is no longer on the table.
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Sometimes you wonder how these guys view themselves. Does Ellis really think he's a premier player?
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quote:
Does Ellis really think he's a premier player?



Oh yeah. Have you read about him? I think Grantland did an indepth story on him and his history. I have a tough time believing that he doesn't think that Pete Maravich was a poor man's Monta Ellis.
Token
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he was a total moron for opting out. He definitely should not have taken the bucks' offer, but opting out was idiotic. The bucks are going nowhere, so why not just take another 1 year, 11M offer?
 
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