***Mavs Offseason thread***

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I can't find the iso stats, but Stephenson has a significantly higher assist% (assists per possession where he touches the ball) than Parsons.


Lance does have more assists per possession when he touches the ball, but this stat can be a little misleading in my opinion. Assists per possession seem like something that go along with unselfishness and team play, but this stat can be misleading when you are talking about ball dominators. When you have someone that stops ball movement and/or needs to be in iso to be successful, they may end up getting more assists because they will (a) shoot the ball or (b) drive and pass to a teammate when an assist is possible. Also, these players will have the ball when the shot clock is running down, so when they pass a shot will have to be taken immediately a lot of times, which will also cause their assist numbers to be higher.

I know it's a bad example (and I'm not saying Lance is exactly like this but am just using it to prove a point), but a player on a city league team can be both (a) a player who never shoots and (b) the most selfish player on the team. This player would never make a pass unless he was the "playmaker" (was involved in pick and roll, or drove to the basket) and then dished to an open teammate or if he thought his pass would result in an assist. This player would never get "hockey assists" and would never make easy passes just to get things started.

I don't think Lance does a great job of moving the ball and don't think he is good at getting "hockey assists" by making passes that create an assist opportunity for the next player to touch the ball. This is something the Spurs are excellent at, and I think the Mavs do good at it too. I don't think Lance would be a great fit for either team. If we didn't have a playmaker/driver like Ellis, I would be more open to Lance. But having Ellis and Lance play at the same time would not be good in my opinion.

Just to reiterate, I'm not saying I think Lance is a terrible player. I think he is very talented. I just don't think he is a good fit for some teams, including the Mavs. And he is clearly a CANCER in the locker rooms, as evidenced by the low contracts he was offered.
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I do agree that the Pacers offense wasn't very efficient, so maybe Lance would play a different role and be more willing to move the ball on a better offensive team. But nothing I have seen from him so far indicates that is the case.
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All those opinions make sense. Parsons is a better fit for Dallas.
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With Ellis at SG, Parsons is a much better fit. And not crazy.
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3 straight seasons of going after big fa and you got parsons lulz at Cuban and the mavs
Goldie Wilson
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Whoa whoa whoa. The mavs have been whiffing on big free agents for at least the last decade.
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Whoa whoa whoa. The mavs have been whiffing on big free agents for at least the last decade.
Is Parsons the greatest Cuban FA signing ever? Just remembered that he tried to sign Rashard Lewis like 12 years ago...we finally got him!
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I'd say Ellis is at this point, until Parsons can displace him.

Cuban does his moving and shaking via trade. Even Dirk was a draft day trade. Until the past few years, leaving himself cap room to do anything significant was the biggest issue. They made a run at Rashard Lewis 12 years ago, but I think they offered him a fraction of what Seattle did - something like half the years and a third of the $'s because it's all they had to offer.

[This message has been edited by DannyDuberstein (edited 7/17/2014 12:04p).]
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Was Jason Terry a FA signing or did he come by trade? Because I would put him on the list for best free agents acquired by Cuban if that's the case
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Trade for Antonie Walker.
PatAg
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Grantland is such a ****ty sports site
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mavsfan4ever
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Lowe is by far the best NBA writer, best writer in all of sports in my opinion. Simmons, not so much but Grantland is awesome.
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Lowe.

Used to like BS but I get bored reading his stuff now. Yeah I get it, a 3 paragraph tangent about some obscure TV show.
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Ulrich
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Lowe is great, but I don't like Grantland as a whole.
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txagman1998
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So Mavs roster is basically set now:

PG - Nelson, Felton, Mekel
SG - Ellis, Harris, Ledo
SF - Parsons, Jefferson, Crowder
PF - Nowitzki, Aminu, Griffin (non-guaranteed)
C - Chandler, Wright, Smith

Nice roster that should provide both depth and flexibility. I would expect that Ledo and Griffin (assuming he makes the team) will get most of their minutes in the D-League. Mekel and Smith might also spend some time with the Legends depending on the health of the rest of the team.
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The fact that you are naming one writer does not bode well for the site. It was a cool idea, and I'm sure there are people out there that like it. I'd rather just reread old Sports Guy articles than read crappy clones of his.
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Kirk Goldsberry is also nails.
TheDino
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Mavs with some serious moves this off season. They should be dangerous next year.

And speaking of Grantland, this is pretty great: http://grantland.com/the-triangle/dirk-nowitzki-playing-baseball-looks-as-awesome-as-it-sounds/

As a Spurs fan, it's pretty tough not to like Dirk. He seems like a really nice dude. That video is awesome.
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Some good moves this offseason for the Mavs. Strength of the Mavs will always be Carlisle and Dirk - at least they will be back in the conversation this year.

Champs? No, but I'd say 5 seed or higher, with upside.
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That's a great vid btw.

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Donnie Nelson is on with Norm right now. I love the guy. But he may be the worst offender of saying "you know" over and over again of any interviewee in history.
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Our bench will be strong indeed.
Goldie Wilson
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Please disregard that those teams went a combined 173-237 last season
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Seven Costanza
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In a backup role making the minimum salary, Jefferson seems alright to me.
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