You would be weird if you were still all in on the Mavs right now.mavsfan4ever said:
Haha yea I may have to switch to some sort of hate Nico forever name.
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PatAg said:You would be weird if you were still all in on the Mavs right now.mavsfan4ever said:
Haha yea I may have to switch to some sort of hate Nico forever name.
What's weird is saying you're turned off or that you don't care but you come here to post when the team loses and talk more about how you don't care.
Holy hell. Never seen so many damn babies before in my life. If you're done cheering for the mavs start another damn thread. Spare us the "I don't care, hope they lose" bs every night.
mavsfan4ever said:Guitarsoup said:hph6203 said:Yes. I have absolutely zero interest in watching this dip**** get seemingly fully validated in his perspective over a 6 month period when the next 10 years are what matters. Most hollow hearted championship in the history of the NBA. Mavs could have one of the most impressive/unexpected championships in history and the absolute most disgustingly unappreciated one. Good job.Guitarsoup said:hph6203 said:
Nightmare fuel.
Dallas domination in the playoffs against all their rivals is nightmare fuel?
Got it. You hate Nico more than you love the Mavs.
Yes. I've never hated anyone in sports more than Nico. I truly don't want us to win this year. I can't bring myself to root for another team, but I hope we fail just so that Nico will get canned.
I have a feeling you would hate the spurs gm more than you love the spurs if he traded wemby at midnight on a random Saturday night two years from now without checking with wemby and with only talking to one team and got garbage in return. It's easy to say you'd still root for the spurs when you know itlll never happen. But you would feel differently if it happened.
Yep, I'm still here. I did find myself rooting for them tonight, but it's extremely conflicting. I disagree with the trade with every fiber of my being. I'll soon be rooting for them again I'm sure and AD is and has always been a high character guy and he'll be easy to root for. It's cool that he gets to pair up with another UK guy in PJ because that wildcat NBA fraternity is a real one and I'm sure they were good friends already.
But, I want Nico fired yesterday. I don't give a **** if we get a ring or not…I want him gone, even if this move gets up a ship. The tone deafness of his presser is something I don't think I'll ever get over.
This is a mavs thread for mavs fans to talk to each other. Im not telling you go to go away and stop shilling for the front office.shack009 said:PatAg said:You would be weird if you were still all in on the Mavs right now.mavsfan4ever said:
Haha yea I may have to switch to some sort of hate Nico forever name.
What's weird is saying you're turned off or that you don't care but you come here to post when the team loses and talk more about how you don't care.
Im also not rooting against the Mavs, I think thats also an odd choice, but understandable
shack009 said:
My word this thread is going to be a beating the rest of the year with people saying they are happy when the team loses…
Maybe, but my kid and I tuned in to watch Luka do his thing. Through his injury we were hoping that the rest of the team could hold serve until he came back. Nico ripped the heart out of this team and any reason to pay attention to them anymore.
You just got kicked in the dick worse than any fan base in the last 100 years and you just shrug your shoulders and say "I'll risk more" within 24 hours. Zero consequences for the people who did it to you.shack009 said:PatAg said:You would be weird if you were still all in on the Mavs right now.mavsfan4ever said:
Haha yea I may have to switch to some sort of hate Nico forever name.
What's weird is saying you're turned off or that you don't care but you come here to post when the team loses and talk more about how you don't care.
Not only did they kick you in the dick over the weekend, but every time Luka goes off for 50, or gets a highlight play, or wins a playoff series, or if he wins a championship you're going to have a whisper in your head that says "coulda been my team." 10 years of punishment ahead of you and it's all acceptable. Not only that, but as currently constructed he's going to be doing those things while the Mavs are struggling to win 30 in 3-4 years and Nico is off at some other team or shoe company.
I hate Nico more than I love "the Mavs". Because whatever zombie version of the "the Mavs" that exist today isn't the one I've spent (wasted) time and money on following for all these years. I don't have any connection to this team. I have more connection to the LA Lakers at this point (Luka, DFS, Maxi).Guitarsoup said:hph6203 said:Yes. I have absolutely zero interest in watching this dip**** get seemingly fully validated in his perspective over a 6 month period when the next 10 years are what matters. Most hollow hearted championship in the history of the NBA. Mavs could have one of the most impressive/unexpected championships in history and the absolute most disgustingly unappreciated one. Good job.Guitarsoup said:hph6203 said:
Nightmare fuel.
Dallas domination in the playoffs against all their rivals is nightmare fuel?
Got it. You hate Nico more than you love the Mavs.
I don't expect to start following this franchise again until 2031 when they regain their draft picks. The fastest way for me to care again before that is to get a Top 10 pick this year, fire Nico, sell off AD and everyone else except Lively, and get a Top 5 pick next year. So yeah, I hope they lose every game and I'm glad they lost to the Sixers.
jeffdjohnson said:I hate Nico more than I love "the Mavs". Because whatever zombie version of the "the Mavs" that exist today isn't the one I've spent (wasted) time and money on following for all these years. I don't have any connection to this team. I have more connection to the LA Lakers at this point (Luka, DFS, Maxi).Guitarsoup said:hph6203 said:Yes. I have absolutely zero interest in watching this dip**** get seemingly fully validated in his perspective over a 6 month period when the next 10 years are what matters. Most hollow hearted championship in the history of the NBA. Mavs could have one of the most impressive/unexpected championships in history and the absolute most disgustingly unappreciated one. Good job.Guitarsoup said:hph6203 said:
Nightmare fuel.
Dallas domination in the playoffs against all their rivals is nightmare fuel?
Got it. You hate Nico more than you love the Mavs.
I don't expect to start following this franchise again until 2031 when they regain their draft picks. The fastest way for me to care again before that is to get a Top 10 pick this year, fire Nico, sell off AD and everyone else except Lively, and get a Top 5 pick next year. So yeah, I hope they lose every game and I'm glad they lost to the Sixers.
Then why are you here? Can those of us who aren't children have a thread where we can talk about things like adults?
We probably need a separate Mavs thread for people who want to wallow and be children and pretend to not understand how the world works for the next several years.
What do you want people to talk about?. It's been 3 days. Do you want to dissect the last two minutes of last night's game? To talk about AD who hasn't even played yet? It's the biggest sports trade in history and we got ****ed. People are going to talk about it. This isn't a game thread where we only talk about games. I'm sure more people will talk about games eventually but they aren't going to stop talking about the trade. People have literally spent their lives cheering for a team and rightfully feel like that is now gone (at least while Nico is here).
Get over it and stop complaining about people "wallowing." Feel free start a new thread where you and 1-2 other guys can just talk about the games or whatever you want to talk about. Or just accept the fact that the trade is going to be talked about (which will include "wallowing" for some people.
Get over it and stop complaining about people "wallowing." Feel free start a new thread where you and 1-2 other guys can just talk about the games or whatever you want to talk about. Or just accept the fact that the trade is going to be talked about (which will include "wallowing" for some people.
mavsfan4ever said:
What do you want people to talk about?. It's been 3 days. Do you want to dissect the last two minutes of last night's game? To talk about AD who hasn't even played yet? It's the biggest sports trade in history and we got ****ed. People are going to talk about it. This isn't a game thread where we only talk about games. I'm sure more people will talk about games eventually but they aren't going to stop talking about the trade. People have literally spent their lives cheering for a team and rightfully feel like that is now gone (at least while Nico is here).
Get over it and stop complaining about people "wallowing." Feel free start a new thread where you and 1-2 other guys can just talk about the games or whatever you want to talk about. Or just accept the fact that the trade is going to be talked about (which will include "wallowing" for some people.
Why do I need a new Mavs season thread to talk about the Mavs season?
Yall need a new thread where you can keep talking about a player who isn't on the Mavs. Or where you can moan about a guy you never met hurting your feelings. Or yall can pretend the Mavs are in a tank for the next 2-3 years when they actually have a really good team.
People have said they want the Mavs to lose every game and/or they aren't fans anymore. That bs needs to have its own bs thread, because the Mavs are trying to win games.
If you want the Mavs to lose games while they are actively trying to win games, you are the same as an Astros fan going to the Rangers thread. That's ban worthy on the baseball board.
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I don't think a new thread is necessary. No one will be posting on this one starting next week.
I am going to sports hate follow this team because I do want to see Nico fired ASAP. I do want to get a Top 10 pick this season. I do want to go for a Top 5 pick next season. I do want to see AD traded and recoup some picks this summer. If they give me some young players to follow during the 4 year nuclear winter of 2027-2030 when you don't control your picks, then I'll follow along. I would prefer not to wait until 2031 for the Mavs v2.0 to start. Although that is what I expect to happen.
Otherwise there is still some intrigue to discuss this week. Will that ******ed shoe salesman give away Lively or the 2031 pick for a 1999 All Star before the trade deadline? How will the crowd react and will someone try to burn down the AAC on Saturday?
I am going to sports hate follow this team because I do want to see Nico fired ASAP. I do want to get a Top 10 pick this season. I do want to go for a Top 5 pick next season. I do want to see AD traded and recoup some picks this summer. If they give me some young players to follow during the 4 year nuclear winter of 2027-2030 when you don't control your picks, then I'll follow along. I would prefer not to wait until 2031 for the Mavs v2.0 to start. Although that is what I expect to happen.
Otherwise there is still some intrigue to discuss this week. Will that ******ed shoe salesman give away Lively or the 2031 pick for a 1999 All Star before the trade deadline? How will the crowd react and will someone try to burn down the AAC on Saturday?
Like he said, it's been three days. Your expectations are preposterous.
You don't need a new thread. You just shouldn't constantly gripe about people talking about a huge trade. If you don't want to see people talking about the huge trade then maybe you need a new thread.
it's also the morning after we just had to see the dude hamming it up on the sidelines with lebron and bronny....and a couple of days after we had to watch him pretend not to be pissed off in a presser....and a couple of days after his dad trashed us in the media.
I'm good on the trade talk being a topic of discussion for a long time. Just let it evolve naturally, but the wound is still way too open to just go back to the usual game convo only.
I'm good on the trade talk being a topic of discussion for a long time. Just let it evolve naturally, but the wound is still way too open to just go back to the usual game convo only.
I mean, this seasonshack009 said:mavsfan4ever said:
What do you want people to talk about?. It's been 3 days. Do you want to dissect the last two minutes of last night's game? To talk about AD who hasn't even played yet? It's the biggest sports trade in history and we got ****ed. People are going to talk about it. This isn't a game thread where we only talk about games. I'm sure more people will talk about games eventually but they aren't going to stop talking about the trade. People have literally spent their lives cheering for a team and rightfully feel like that is now gone (at least while Nico is here).
Get over it and stop complaining about people "wallowing." Feel free start a new thread where you and 1-2 other guys can just talk about the games or whatever you want to talk about. Or just accept the fact that the trade is going to be talked about (which will include "wallowing" for some people.
Why do I need a new Mavs season thread to talk about the Mavs season?
essentially ended around 11:30pm Saturday night. Maybe you do need a new tread
mavsfan4ever said:
You don't need a new thread. You just shouldn't constantly gripe about people talking about a huge trade. If you don't want to see people talking about the huge trade then maybe you need a new thread.
People aren't just talking about the trade. They are saying they are glad the Mavs lost to the 76ers in a game they really needed.
Has anybody said anything about Max Christie other than me? I don't think so. Because people aren't discussing the trade.
dave94 said:I mean, this seasonshack009 said:mavsfan4ever said:
What do you want people to talk about?. It's been 3 days. Do you want to dissect the last two minutes of last night's game? To talk about AD who hasn't even played yet? It's the biggest sports trade in history and we got ****ed. People are going to talk about it. This isn't a game thread where we only talk about games. I'm sure more people will talk about games eventually but they aren't going to stop talking about the trade. People have literally spent their lives cheering for a team and rightfully feel like that is now gone (at least while Nico is here).
Get over it and stop complaining about people "wallowing." Feel free start a new thread where you and 1-2 other guys can just talk about the games or whatever you want to talk about. Or just accept the fact that the trade is going to be talked about (which will include "wallowing" for some people.
Why do I need a new Mavs season thread to talk about the Mavs season?
essentially ended around 11:30pm Saturday night. Maybe you do need a new tread
It is actually still going, so I don't need a new thread.
The effects, ramifications and fallout of the trade are still part of the trade.
mavsfan4ever said:
The effects, ramifications and fallout of the trade are still part of the trade.
Not when the ramifications being discussed are the extent to which people's butts are hurt.
I dunno man -- it's being touted as one of the worst trades in sports history, and if it doesn't end up being one of the worst, still easily one of the most impactful. I think anything is in bounds for a good while here.
We traded what was IMO a comparable probability at a title over a 10-12 yr window to just a 2-3 yr window and leveraged our future for at best slightly better chances of winning a ring. Stripping all the Luka love out of it, I just still don't see the biz case for it.
We traded what was IMO a comparable probability at a title over a 10-12 yr window to just a 2-3 yr window and leveraged our future for at best slightly better chances of winning a ring. Stripping all the Luka love out of it, I just still don't see the biz case for it.
None of us do. But that's been beaten like a drum ad nauseam for the past 3-4 days.
This thread can't become a place where people celebrate a loss in a year where we're still going for it.
It's like you said. The window is open still. It's shorter than it was. But it's still open.
So forgive me for being pissed off when people are celebrating losses when we need to win games more than ever over the next 3ish years.
This thread can't become a place where people celebrate a loss in a year where we're still going for it.
It's like you said. The window is open still. It's shorter than it was. But it's still open.
So forgive me for being pissed off when people are celebrating losses when we need to win games more than ever over the next 3ish years.
People need to stop coming here with their hot takes that it was a bad trade and they're super mad at Nico and they want the Mavs to lose games.
Newsflash: that's not a hot take, it's the casual take of the entire masses.
This thread is basically the DNC now. Just a bunch of women and betas trying to out-grievance one another and see who is the biggest victim.
Newsflash: that's not a hot take, it's the casual take of the entire masses.
This thread is basically the DNC now. Just a bunch of women and betas trying to out-grievance one another and see who is the biggest victim.
shack009 said:
People need to stop coming here with their hot takes that it was a bad trade and they're super mad at Nico and they want the Mavs to lose games.
Newsflash: that's not a hot take, it's the casual take of the entire masses.
Agreed, but that's yet another element of insanity to it. Because of Luka, this team had attracted a new population of casuals not seen since the peak of the Dirk days, and more. Hell, my mom was watching Mavs games again for the first time since 2011. These owners from a biz sense are ******s. And that's just the US fans. Stack on the international casuals that jumped on….Jesus. Then add to it that we just voluntarily gave the keys to the castle back to an iconic brand that was a shell of themselves….we made the Lakers the Lakers again.
I don't want us to lose, but I'm still good with trade analysis (yeah right there was none) talk for a while. Just hoping we can proudly wear Mavs gear again at some point. I'm far from that point rn. Wiped out like half my gym shirts for the near future. Thanks Nico you ****ing dick
I get we want to talk basketball/players eventually it's just tough to do currently with the shadow of what just happened over this. I like the current players, I want to like AD and would be so pumped in literally every other circumstance.
I'm sure people feel like I do, and I'll try not to over dramatize it. I went to games as a kid with the 20 win teams that evolved into following the team religiously for 30 years now. This is my number 1 team along the with the Aggies and more so than the other DFW teams by quite a bit. And I feel like those 30 years are gone in one night, and I don't even know how to process it. This thread is somewhat cathartic to know that I'm not the only one.
I might come around. I'd like to talk roster moves and future, but I can understand completely how that is difficult right now for people
I'm sure people feel like I do, and I'll try not to over dramatize it. I went to games as a kid with the 20 win teams that evolved into following the team religiously for 30 years now. This is my number 1 team along the with the Aggies and more so than the other DFW teams by quite a bit. And I feel like those 30 years are gone in one night, and I don't even know how to process it. This thread is somewhat cathartic to know that I'm not the only one.
I might come around. I'd like to talk roster moves and future, but I can understand completely how that is difficult right now for people
Hey guys, the Thread Police wants us to stop pointing out that the GM ripped the soul out of this franchise and fanbase with arguably the worst trade in sports history. Let's all just accept that and move on. Definitely keep watching the games and rooting for the team that just gave you an emphatic middle finger. And most importantly, only discuss the games in this thread instead of that other stuff. Great plan.
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I remember all the hype SGA and Ant got last year for being two of the biggest up and comers in the NBA (rightfully so!). Well we traded the dude that ran through both of them.
cp09 said:
I get we want to talk basketball/players eventually it's just tough to do currently with the shadow of what just happened over this. I like the current players, I want to like AD and would be so pumped in literally every other circumstance.
I'm sure people feel like I do, and I'll try not to over dramatize it. I went to games as a kid with the 20 win teams that evolved into following the team religiously for 30 years now. This is my number 1 team along the with the Aggies and more so than the other DFW teams by quite a bit. And I feel like those 30 years are gone in one night, and I don't even know how to process it. This thread is somewhat cathartic to know that I'm not the only one.
I might come around. I'd like to talk roster moves and future, but I can understand completely how that is difficult right now for people
Agreed, seeing all the emotion in this thread (and not just on crazier unhinged places like reddit/X/IG) is helping me process better. The Rangers are still a huge part of my life, but baseball relevance and especially success is so hit or miss and so far between stretches. The cowboys are such a broken organization with Jerry getting dumber every year…they'll always be my NFL team, but they're annoying af. I love the Stars, but hockey is just such a distant 4th place behind football, basketball and baseball for me. I too was in the seats in the 90s, mostly just for games where other teams' big stars were in town like Jordan or Penny, Shawn Kemp, etc, but the Mavs were still my team. They've been such a class organization for the whole 21st century until the other night. I'm sure we'll all soon get to where shack is at, but I'm not there yet. It's been 4 days
Boston complained about a trade that happened in 1920 all the way to 2004. Prepare yourself to be irritated for a long time. Not everyone's the kind of guy to find out their wife banged their brother and come away with the positive outlook that they used protection.shack009 said:
None of us do. But that's been beaten like a drum ad nauseam for the past 3-4 days.
This thread can't become a place where people celebrate a loss in a year where we're still going for it.
It's like you said. The window is open still. It's shorter than it was. But it's still open.
So forgive me for being pissed off when people are celebrating losses when we need to win games more than ever over the next 3ish years.
You have this naive sense that because the team is wearing a jersey you have rooted for years for that the team you're rooting for is still the same entity. You've lost your owner that cares, you have lost the truest killer in the league, you have a GM and owner willing to do that, and you're trying to pretend it's business as usual.
The Mavs literally have the only GM and the only ownership group that would make this trade. Not only did they make the trade, but the GM sat in front of a mic and said he knew you'd be absolutely pissed about it so he made sure no one knew and did it any way. In other words it's not a mutual relationship where they try to win a championship AND respect what you want from the franchise. It's just pure short term self interest on the part of the GM. Near guaranteed rebuild in 4 years. Says he probably won't even be here by then. Toss a grenade into the museum and hopes he can grab the art before it goes off so he can buy a beach house in Miami when Riley retires.
Sports gods gave the Mavericks 20 years of Dirk and in his last year in the league granted them this generations Kobe/Jordan/Bird. An immensely talented, cocky son of a ***** that would talk **** and back it up and the GM decided his desire for an immediate resume builder trumped your next 10 years of sports fandom. And you're wanting for that to come about like the victim of a brother banger saying he'll treat her nice and she'll go back to the old her.
Dude, before the Luka trade you never posted on this thread or any other Mavs thread ever, as far as I can tell.City Dumme said:
Hey guys, the Thread Police wants us to stop pointing out that the GM ripped the soul out of this franchise and fanbase with arguably the worst trade in sports history. Let's all just accept that and move on. Definitely keep watching the games and rooting for the team that just gave you an emphatic middle finger. And most importantly, only discuss the games in this thread instead of that other stuff. Great plan.
Dude, is posting about it on texags.com a requirement to be a Mavericks fan? In addition to the industrial-strength autism that would be required to pretend like everything is ok right now like you're begging everyone to do?
The Mavs aren't going for anything and there is no window open. If we want to talk basketball then here is the truth - this team isn't good. The Mavs record without Luka tells us everything that we need to know.shack009 said:
None of us do. But that's been beaten like a drum ad nauseam for the past 3-4 days.
This thread can't become a place where people celebrate a loss in a year where we're still going for it.
It's like you said. The window is open still. It's shorter than it was. But it's still open.
So forgive me for being pissed off when people are celebrating losses when we need to win games more than ever over the next 3ish years.
It is now a clunky roster with too many resources committed to center (AD, Lively, Gafford). Ironically they keep giving minutes to someone named "Kyler Kelly" because their centers can't stay healthy. If they ever do become healthy and attempt to play a double big lineup then the spacing will be horrendous since no one is a stretch 5.
Speaking of shooting, across the board this isn't a great shooting team. Kyrie is the only shooter over 39% (Klay is close at 38.9%). Otherwise it is average to below average shooting across the board. Not to mention that Kyrie is now the only good shot creator on the whole roster. Dinwiddie is the next closest which tells everyone how bleak things are.
Defensively they might be good around the paint and on the boards, but will struggle on the perimeter. Their best point of attack defender is now probably a trade throw in.
To summarize: Team is over-committed to an injured group of centers who can't shoot, team doesn't have any shooters or playmakers aside from Kyrie, team is a below average from 3-point range, team will be a sieve defending on the perimeter. They are also old and it will only get worse from here. It is 50/50 if they even make the play-in, and that is assuming Kyrie stays healthy.
The fact that some of y'all are taking this as personal as someone banging your wife says more about y'all than it does about me. You aren't the first to use that analogy and won't be the last, I'm sure.
It's just really strange, because it isn't like that at all.
As far as the "entity" changing... I have never cared who owns the Mavs. I don't even care who is on the team really. I'm a Mavs fan because I lived in Dallas the entirety of my sports-conscious life until recently. My loyalty is to the team in Dallas. I'm not a Cowboys fan because Jerry Jones owns the team and I didn't become a Mavs fan because Cuban and Don ran the team.
Do they do things that I disagree with? Yes. But I get over it because it's a sports team. It isn't the same as forgiving your wife for banging somebody else. The Mavs didn't break a God-witnessed sacred covenant with me. They made a stupid trade.
It's just really strange, because it isn't like that at all.
As far as the "entity" changing... I have never cared who owns the Mavs. I don't even care who is on the team really. I'm a Mavs fan because I lived in Dallas the entirety of my sports-conscious life until recently. My loyalty is to the team in Dallas. I'm not a Cowboys fan because Jerry Jones owns the team and I didn't become a Mavs fan because Cuban and Don ran the team.
Do they do things that I disagree with? Yes. But I get over it because it's a sports team. It isn't the same as forgiving your wife for banging somebody else. The Mavs didn't break a God-witnessed sacred covenant with me. They made a stupid trade.
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