Do we have an official portal thread?

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Divining Rod
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TexasAGGIEinAR said:

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Tamuco99 said:

What am I missing here, how is this different from the Bediako situation?

He hasn't gone through either NCAA or legal processes???

Bediako played in college then declared for the draft. This guy didn't play college ball at all. 2 completely different situations.



Excellent. Let's go sign LeBron. So proud not to get in the mud with characters like that Oats guy from Bama. We run a squeaky clean ship here, Ags! yessir.....

and yeah yeah, i know..... but it's still bull***** I can tolerate the Europeans and other foreigners because it truly IS different. but if you're an American who goes the quasi-NBA route instead of college, that should be it.
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Divining Rod said:

TexasAGGIEinAR said:

greg.w.h said:

Tamuco99 said:

What am I missing here, how is this different from the Bediako situation?

He hasn't gone through either NCAA or legal processes???

Bediako played in college then declared for the draft. This guy didn't play college ball at all. 2 completely different situations.



Excellent. Let's go sign LeBron. So proud not to get in the mud with characters like that Oats guy from Bama. We run a squeaky clean ship here, Ags! yessir.....

What about this is dirty or not clean?

It is more comparable to adding Ruben than it is Bediako.

Bediako played college, went pro, and then tried to come back. On top of that, he rejoined the Alabama roster midseason less than a week after playing a G League game.

At the end of the day, if it is allowed by the rules and other teams are doing it, why shouldn't we?

It is also likely that things like this become less common in the coming years because fewer guys are likely to enter the G League prior to making the money they can make in college.
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Because he's American. It's funny the lengths we want to go to so we feel good about it all....
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What lengths are people going to?

The reality is a lot of other schools are doing the same thing.

The guy has never played a college game, like Ruben or any other foreign-born former pro.

He has not been drafted by an NBA team.

If he'd simply been born in Mexico, rather than the United States, you would have less of an issue with it?

Is it the best thing in the world? No, but we should be doing what we can to field the best team possible within what is allowed.
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REESE JUST PICKED UP THE PHONE
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https://www.on3.com/college/texas-am-aggies/news/lsu-guard-jalen-reece-commits-to-texas-am-out-of-ncaa-transfer-portal/
On3 is listing Jalen Reece as one of our transfers in.
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Topher17
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If he'd have signed with the Sips everyone would be calling it BS rather than justifying it to themselves. It's BS, but the rules allow for it assuming the NCAA deems him eligible. If we win, no one will ultimately care.

In my personal opinion, there is a difference in the Euro guys who don't have a high school/college structure playing in lower level "pro" leagues prior to coming here, compared to a guy who knowingly passed on college and made the wrong choice. I don't think the Euro guys being allowed to come over should be 23-24 years old either. Make the jump at age 18-20 or knowingly pass on the American college option.
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The Marksman said:

Roster is looking excellent so far. I think we go for a backup PG, two wings(ideally one of which would be a really good 3pt shooter), and then hopefully get Hill back if his waiver is approved. That could give us the following rotation:
PG: Warren/Transfer
SG: Haggerty/Hill
SF: Transfer/Transfer
PF: Mgbako/Phillips
C: Clemence/Vinson
And then some combination of Walls, Mundey, Green, and/or Irving could come off the bench if Bucky wanted more than 10 players in his rotation.
PG Jalen Reese added too. I don't view Clemence as a starter (and definitely not Vinson), so I'd grab one or two more 6'10 guys. Guess we need Small-Forward too if we're thin there, but big guys especially needed.
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I suppose that's fair, less Ags will be calling BS on this stuff now that we added him.
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I wonder if Bryson Warren gets an update recruiting profile to improve our overall rankings. It does not matter a ton, but obviously good for optics.
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Agree we need another big man. I don't personally want to go into next year with such a reliance on Vinson taking a big step forward and we can't really rely on Clemence to play the 5 consistently in my opinion.
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We got a back court
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JJxvi
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I assume this is for Reece?
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Divining Rod said:

Because he's American. It's funny the lengths we want to go to so we feel good about it all....


Personally I'd rather spots at American schools go to Americans.
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probably...buuuut
The Marksman
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Topher17 said:

Agree we need another big man. I don't personally want to go into next year with such a reliance on Vinson taking a big step forward and we can't really rely on Clemence to play the 5 consistently in my opinion.

Here's my thoughts. To clarify, this is not an argument for or against adding a center.
Would I like to get a 6'11/7'0 true center on this team? Yes, very much so. But I'm just not sure it's going to happen. We were looking at some centers earlier, but they've mostly committed to other schools or are visiting other schools and not us. Additionally, my understanding is that true centers are commanding extremely hefty prices tags in the portal this cycle, and we might prefer to use our NIL on other players(Warren, Haggerty, and Mgbako are not cheap).
Right now, we'll have 6"9 Mgbako, 6'9 Phillips, 6'11 Clemence, and 6'11 Vinson on our team(as well as true freshman 6'11 Irving, who will probably redshirt). I also understand that we are pursuing a couple of 6'8 wings and Bucky will probably land one. That would give us 5 players 6'8 or taller in our rotation for next season(last season, for comparison, our only players to meet that threshold were Clemence and Vinson).
Now the BuckyBall style does not necessarily require a true center to work well. Last year, we had 6'7 Agee at the 5 for the majority of the time, What BuckyBall does require is athletic bigs who can run the floor(and at least some of whom can shoot like Mgbako and Clemence). As long as our 5 players 6'8 or taller can rebound, I think we'll be fine without a true center.
Bottom line, I trust Bucky with the roster construction.
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taylorswift13_ said:

We got a back court

Has A&M ever had this much scoring potential in the back court?
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czar_iv said:

taylorswift13_ said:

We got a back court

Has A&M ever had this much scoring potential in the back court?


No
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JJxvi said:

czar_iv said:

taylorswift13_ said:

We got a back court

Has A&M ever had this much scoring potential in the back court?


No
now we just need a layup line report and Method should be on board
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Ag1188 said:

The Marksman said:

Roster is looking excellent so far. I think we go for a backup PG, two wings(ideally one of which would be a really good 3pt shooter), and then hopefully get Hill back if his waiver is approved. That could give us the following rotation:
PG: Warren/Transfer
SG: Haggerty/Hill
SF: Transfer/Transfer
PF: Mgbako/Phillips
C: Clemence/Vinson
And then some combination of Walls, Mundey, Green, and/or Irving could come off the bench if Bucky wanted more than 10 players in his rotation.

PG Jalen Reese added too. I don't view Clemence as a starter (and definitely not Vinson), so I'd grab one or two more 6'10 guys. Guess we need Small-Forward too if we're thin there, but big guys especially needed.

Clemence can be our SF. And he would do great in that role.
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I mean, surely everyone would agree that the benchmark to beat is House, Jones, Caruso, Gilder?
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Heineken-Ashi said:

Ag1188 said:

The Marksman said:

Roster is looking excellent so far. I think we go for a backup PG, two wings(ideally one of which would be a really good 3pt shooter), and then hopefully get Hill back if his waiver is approved. That could give us the following rotation:
PG: Warren/Transfer
SG: Haggerty/Hill
SF: Transfer/Transfer
PF: Mgbako/Phillips
C: Clemence/Vinson
And then some combination of Walls, Mundey, Green, and/or Irving could come off the bench if Bucky wanted more than 10 players in his rotation.

PG Jalen Reese added too. I don't view Clemence as a starter (and definitely not Vinson), so I'd grab one or two more 6'10 guys. Guess we need Small-Forward too if we're thin there, but big guys especially needed.

Clemence can be our SF. And he would do great in that role.

Walls is 6'5 and shoots 40% from 3. He could play the 3.

G: Warren
G: Haggerty
SF: Walls
PF: Mgbako
C: Clemence / Irving/ Vinson
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Luke, said that the staff likes what they have as far as the 5 rotation. The going rate right now for a starting caliber 5 is $3mil+ and they feel like they can get better value looking at guards and wings who are 6'6"- 6'8"+ and rotating some combo of Phillips/Clemence/Vinson at the 5.

Now he did say if they see something that strikes their fancy across the pond and can get him for a reasonable price they will strike.
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I'm not sure Phillips wont have a bigger role than most think.
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JJxvi said:

I'm not sure Phillips wont have a bigger role than most think.


Luke said they're really high on him being a big contributor from the 4/5 spots.
JJxvi
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He's not Agee but he's kind of an obvious addition that has an eye toward filling many of the holes he leaves behind, especially the dawg/glue type stuff
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BasketballCoach2015 said:

Luke, said that the staff likes what they have as far as the 5 rotation. The going rate right now for a starting caliber 5 is $3mil+ and they feel like they can get better value looking at guards and wings who are 6'6"- 6'8"+ and rotating some combo of Phillips/Clemence/Vinson at the 5.

Now he did say if they see something that strikes their fancy across the pond and can get him for a reasonable price they will strike.

This makes a ton of sense. Thanks for sharing.
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JJxvi said:

I'm not sure Phillips wont have a bigger role than most think.

I'm not sure I don't understand what you might mean here
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This Reese guy remind anyone of Charles Barkley? Just a little?
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I think Phillips starting at the 5 and Clemence backing up Mgbako makes more sense. With all the offense on the floor, you need someone who focuses on defense, rebounding, and toughness. I like Clemence as the scoring big off the bench.
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czar_iv said:

Heineken-Ashi said:

Ag1188 said:

The Marksman said:

Roster is looking excellent so far. I think we go for a backup PG, two wings(ideally one of which would be a really good 3pt shooter), and then hopefully get Hill back if his waiver is approved. That could give us the following rotation:
PG: Warren/Transfer
SG: Haggerty/Hill
SF: Transfer/Transfer
PF: Mgbako/Phillips
C: Clemence/Vinson
And then some combination of Walls, Mundey, Green, and/or Irving could come off the bench if Bucky wanted more than 10 players in his rotation.

PG Jalen Reese added too. I don't view Clemence as a starter (and definitely not Vinson), so I'd grab one or two more 6'10 guys. Guess we need Small-Forward too if we're thin there, but big guys especially needed.

Clemence can be our SF. And he would do great in that role.

Walls is 6'5 and shoots 40% from 3. He could play the 3.

G: Warren
G: Haggerty
SF: Walls
PF: Mgbako
C: Clemence / Irving/ Vinson

Clemence is not a night in and night out 5. If we roll with Clemence/Vinson as two of our three regular 4/5 men, we're going to be in the double bonus 6 minutes into every half and have a myriad of foul issues. Mgbako is not a very physical player, I think you'll see him playing the 3 most often.

Phillips is going to bring a nice dose of physicality, but we really need to find a way to not have to rely on Vinson taking a big step forward. It'll be fantastic if he does, but we'd be better off not having to count on it.
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Topher17 said:

czar_iv said:

Heineken-Ashi said:

Ag1188 said:

The Marksman said:

Roster is looking excellent so far. I think we go for a backup PG, two wings(ideally one of which would be a really good 3pt shooter), and then hopefully get Hill back if his waiver is approved. That could give us the following rotation:
PG: Warren/Transfer
SG: Haggerty/Hill
SF: Transfer/Transfer
PF: Mgbako/Phillips
C: Clemence/Vinson
And then some combination of Walls, Mundey, Green, and/or Irving could come off the bench if Bucky wanted more than 10 players in his rotation.

PG Jalen Reese added too. I don't view Clemence as a starter (and definitely not Vinson), so I'd grab one or two more 6'10 guys. Guess we need Small-Forward too if we're thin there, but big guys especially needed.

Clemence can be our SF. And he would do great in that role.

Walls is 6'5 and shoots 40% from 3. He could play the 3.

G: Warren
G: Haggerty
SF: Walls
PF: Mgbako
C: Clemence / Irving/ Vinson

Clemence is not a night in and night out 5. If we roll with Clemence/Vinson as two of our three regular 4/5 men, we're going to be in the double bonus 6 minutes into every half and have a myriad of foul issues. Mgbako is not a very physical player, I think you'll see him playing the 3 most often.

Phillips is going to bring a nice dose of physicality, but we really need to find a way to not have to rely on Vinson taking a big step forward. It'll be fantastic if he does, but we'd be better off not having to count on it.

This. I get that we lived with an undersized 5 last year, but Clemence and Vinson are a far cry from Agee. Agee was vertically challenged but played with immense physicality. Clemence and Vinson got bullied in every matchup against a competent post, and both struggle to defend without fouling.

Vokietaitis is going to put up at least 30/20 against a Clemence/Vinson rotation. I can't speak to Phillips, and maybe he can be next year's Agee.

But suffice it to say that as constructed, we have an exciting roster, but one with a significant deficiency that good teams at the top of our conference (Florida, Texas, etc.) will expose. Should still be more than enough for a good season and will definitely lead to some fun games.
 
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