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In reply to HJack20 • 11:12p, 5/26/25
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Wicked Good Ag said:

Must be why the coach LEFT the program he built over the past three years

To be fair, there was likely a lot more to Schloss jumping ship than simply Texas being a better destination. Apparently he is buddies with CDC and didn't get along with Alberts. Leaving a CWS runner-up SEC team with talent returning is not the norm.
True but you dont leave a "better program" unless the reasons are that you think the new program is better and it fits you and $$$

He wouldnt leave this job for a bIg Ten school likely but got paid much more work with someone he had history with and left for a job in the same tier or better
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In reply to Wicked Good Ag • 11:51p, 5/26/25
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This is insane

Your opinion is your opinion but to you my opinion is wrong because you KNOW what coaches think

And according to you they dont care at all for 12-15000 fans over our 6k

You must think TAMU is the best job around

Must be why the coach LEFT the program he built over the past three years


Tell me of the SEC schools which are better jobs than TAMU in your opinion because if you say none then no reason to go any futher with this discussion as nothing ANYBODY says will change your mind





Pal, I honestly think you don't realize how ironic you're being. You literally tried to argue that "90% would agree if you asked them" to support your completely subjective opinion….and you provided zero basis even for that.

I gave you my reasoning. Your entire position is based on things that are no longer nearly as relevant as they once were. Crowd sizes? That's great, but that's not anywhere near the top of the list. The game has changed. "Can this place provide what I need to get the most talent possible?" That is the question. History only matters if it's reflective of things that answer that question.

Your reasoning is all over the place and there's zero consistency to it. Tennessee is a better JOB than us BECAUSE they won the title last year? No…that just means they won a title last year. If they're providing more resources that allow a coach to get better talent than the same coach could get here? Then ok. But i seriously doubt it.
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12:12a, 5/27/25
i am done

your opinion and my opinon differ

I wish you the best going forward

Hope the Ags do well next season whoever the coach is
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In reply to LB12Diamond • 12:48a, 5/27/25
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Time to start it,

Needs head coaching experience.

Vaughn at Bama
Sully at Gators but not sure why he would leave.
Heefner not leaving DBU is my understanding.

What are your thoughts?
I think it's time to stop this silly coaching search BS and move on. Check your history and dry your tears. The first year Bear Bryant was here he won one game.
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In reply to Jack Boyette • 7:09a, 5/27/25
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Jack Boyette said:
Wicked Good Ag said:
This is insane

Your opinion is your opinion but to you my opinion is wrong because you KNOW what coaches think

And according to you they dont care at all for 12-15000 fans over our 6k

You must think TAMU is the best job around

Must be why the coach LEFT the program he built over the past three years


Tell me of the SEC schools which are better jobs than TAMU in your opinion because if you say none then no reason to go any futher with this discussion as nothing ANYBODY says will change your mind





Pal, I honestly think you don't realize how ironic you're being. You literally tried to argue that "90% would agree if you asked them" to support your completely subjective opinion….and you provided zero basis even for that.

I gave you my reasoning. Your entire position is based on things that are no longer nearly as relevant as they once were. Crowd sizes? That's great, but that's not anywhere near the top of the list. The game has changed. "Can this place provide what I need to get the most talent possible?" That is the question. History only matters if it's reflective of things that answer that question.

Your reasoning is all over the place and there's zero consistency to it. Tennessee is a better JOB than us BECAUSE they won the title last year? No…that just means they won a title last year. If they're providing more resources that allow a coach to get better talent than the same coach could get here? Then ok. But i seriously doubt it.

Your opinion that we are this elite of the elite job is cracking us up. Where do you have us out if all the baseball jobs?
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7:22a, 5/27/25
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Mark me down for giving Earley another year. I don't have any great argument for it but I just think he deserves another chance. Not to mention saving the money it would take to buy him out. If the team is not an exciting and enjoyable team to watch next season, then the decision is even easier.
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7:30a, 5/27/25
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I'll weigh in unnecessarily here... I don't think State is an elite job.

I think they have 2 elite qualities that are tied together. 1) their stadium, and 2) their emphasis on baseball. This is reflected by the sheer volume of former State baseball coaches that have Ben elevated to ADs in Starkville. And, boomerang effect, that's led to investment in the baseball facilities. In part because they're baseball guys directing the spending, but also just because baseball is cheaper than football. They have never invested in football to the level needed to sustain success and I don't expect they ever will. This puts intense pressure on baseball to produce that leads to the firing of a coach that won a championship just a couple of years ago

I think you have to draw a line on baseball history between 1998/1999 because of the change in the playoff formats. Nothing before that matters.

Since 1999:
- State: 19 appearances, 5 CWS, 1 runner up, 1 champ
- A&M: 19 appearances, 5 CWS, 1 runner up

1 big difference but overall substantially similar. They've had almost no continuity in the last 8 years for various reasons (retirement, coach can't keep it in his pants, temp coach, firing).

I think those that feel that State is an elite job base that almost entirely on the 12k capacity of the stadium. And it's a cool place, but it doesn't have off the charts player development facilities compared to their peers. It's a good look because it's a packed home stadium Fri-Sun in a place where they love baseball and there's nothing else to do. And that IS a positive. But coaches want to win, so they look for the investment and tangibles that help them win. And people grilling in left field have very little to do with that.

I think A&M and State are both Top 10-12 type jobs

The real question is, of the Top 5 jobs, how many are based on the program vs the current head coach? If Corbin left tomorrow would Vandy be the top program of the next decade? Tennessee and Vitello? Florida and Sully? Texas has shown they will invest, but they are WAY behind in the infrastructure.

By most metrics Virginia has a claim to the best program of the last 20 years. 9 CWS in the last 16 years, CWS runner up and a championship. But almost no one would consider them an elite job.

TL;DR - What happened in the 1950s-60s doesn't matter. Facilities are important. But coaches make the program. Promise a great coach that you'll invest, do so, and you'll have a great program.
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In reply to Sean98 • 7:47a, 5/27/25
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I concur.

Now who's a great coach that you think we can obtain right now.
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In reply to Sean98 • 8:38a, 5/27/25
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Nailed it.
But those who hope in the LORD will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint. Isaiah 40:31 (NIV)
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In reply to Sean98 • 8:43a, 5/27/25
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I'll weigh in unnecessarily here... I don't think State is an elite job.

I think they have 2 elite qualities that are tied together. 1) their stadium, and 2) their emphasis on baseball. This is reflected by the sheer volume of former State baseball coaches that have Ben elevated to ADs in Starkville. And, boomerang effect, that's led to investment in the baseball facilities. In part because they're baseball guys directing the spending, but also just because baseball is cheaper than football. They have never invested in football to the level needed to sustain success and I don't expect they ever will. This puts intense pressure on baseball to produce that leads to the firing of a coach that won a championship just a couple of years ago

I think you have to draw a line on baseball history between 1998/1999 because of the change in the playoff formats. Nothing before that matters.

Since 1999:
- State: 19 appearances, 5 CWS, 1 runner up, 1 champ
- A&M: 19 appearances, 5 CWS, 1 runner up

1 big difference but overall substantially similar. They've had almost no continuity in the last 8 years for various reasons (retirement, coach can't keep it in his pants, temp coach, firing).

I think those that feel that State is an elite job base that almost entirely on the 12k capacity of the stadium. And it's a cool place, but it doesn't have off the charts player development facilities compared to their peers. It's a good look because it's a packed home stadium Fri-Sun in a place where they love baseball and there's nothing else to do. And that IS a positive. But coaches want to win, so they look for the investment and tangibles that help them win. And people grilling in left field have very little to do with that.

I think A&M and State are both Top 10-12 type jobs

The real question is, of the Top 5 jobs, how many are based on the program vs the current head coach? If Corbin left tomorrow would Vandy be the top program of the next decade? Tennessee and Vitello? Florida and Sully? Texas has shown they will invest, but they are WAY behind in the infrastructure.

By most metrics Virginia has a claim to the best program of the last 20 years. 9 CWS in the last 16 years, CWS runner up and a championship. But almost no one would consider them an elite job.

TL;DR - What happened in the 1950s-60s doesn't matter. Facilities are important. But coaches make the program. Promise a great coach that you'll invest, do so, and you'll have a great program.


Ding ding ding.

As ive said, people too often conflate history with job, and job with program. History can be a reflection of a great job and a great program, but not necessarily. Vanderbilt is a better JOB than it was before Corbin came (it was awful) because the results gave begotten a fanbase that cares, invests more, etc. But if he leaves…is the infrastructure around it good enough to make it an elite JOB for the next guy? The next guy isn't inheriting it all; he's gotta sustain it. Plenty of schools with better histories than us aren't even close to as good a job as ours. No coach with the option -barring some weird circumstances - is choosing Cal State Fullerton, Rice, ASU, USC, Fresno State, or many others over us. They aren't going to look at the postseason history of the school as a proxy for what they can do there. They're going to look at the factors that help them win TODAY. A coach can field an absolutely elite program at A&M, with sustained success. We have a mix of everything needed.
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In reply to Sean98 • 8:46a, 5/27/25
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Very good analysis
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In reply to aeon-ag • 9:10a, 5/27/25
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aeon-ag said:
LB12Diamond said:

Time to start it,

Needs head coaching experience.

Vaughn at Bama
Sully at Gators but not sure why he would leave.
Heefner not leaving DBU is my understanding.

What are your thoughts?
I think it's time to stop this silly coaching search BS and move on. Check your history and dry your tears. The first year Bear Bryant was here he won one game.


The Junction Boys weren't expected to be competitive with their roster. This isn't an apples to apples comparison
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In reply to DDowl44 • 9:12a, 5/27/25
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DDowl44 said:
aeon-ag said:
LB12Diamond said:

Time to start it,

Needs head coaching experience.

Vaughn at Bama
Sully at Gators but not sure why he would leave.
Heefner not leaving DBU is my understanding.

What are your thoughts?
I think it's time to stop this silly coaching search BS and move on. Check your history and dry your tears. The first year Bear Bryant was here he won one game.


The Junction Boys weren't expected to be competitive with their roster. This isn't an apples to apples comparison



What are you talking about. Earley is clearly destined to be possible top 2-3 coaches all time in his profession just like Bear.

I saw a ranking of Div 1 head coaches. He was dead last. So he's on the right track.
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In reply to LB12Diamond • 10:14a, 5/27/25
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LB12Diamond said:
I concur.

Now who's a great coach that you think we can obtain right now.
Neither you or I know the answer to this because we don't know the situations of the coaches, what sort of discussions they've had with their Universities about NIL, 34 scholies, facility investments, etc.

With all of the, "yeah but..." out of the way here's the people that I personally wish we would talk to broken into tiers.

Tier 1:
  • Brian O'Connor, UVA (will UVA pony up for scholarships and NIL?)
  • Kevin O'Sullivan, UF (hoping his personal situation might have him moving, unlikely)
  • Erik Bakich (hope and a prayer, unlikely)

Tier 2:
  • Rob Vaughn, Bama (young, moderate success in the SEC, Texas boy)
  • Dan McDonnell, Louisville (You'd have to ask, "what happened? and why?")
  • Mitch Canham, Oregon State (might be nice to actually play a few home games Mitch!)
  • Dan Fitzgerald, KU (this one may be too high but he's one I believe in. Limited track record but consistent improvement at a non-baseball school. History at DBU and LSU on the recruiting trail)

Tier 3:
  • Wes Johnson, Georgia (limited track record, but impressive so far)
  • Butch Thompson, Auburn (wins more than I give him credit for in the premier conference)
  • Cliff Godwin, ECU (could he carry success to a major program?)
  • Mark Wasikowski (can he win without Nike money? Is he tired of traveling to Happy Valley for a road trip?)

It's far from a complete, or perfect, list and it's sort of off the top of my head, but like most on this board I've been thinking about it for awhile. Vitello, Van Horn, etc. aren't on the list because I don't think they're attainable. Bakich probably isn't either, but I put him on nonetheless. I think Forbes is a really good coach as well, but he's never coached outside of a very small geographic region in the Carolinas, and I don't think he has any interest in leaving.

Of the probably attainable ones on there I'd say my rough wish list would be:

1. Brian O'Connor
2. Rob Vaughn
3. Dan Fitzgerald/Wes Johnson
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In reply to Sean98 • 10:16a, 5/27/25
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LB12Diamond said:
I concur.

Now who's a great coach that you think we can obtain right now.
Neither you or I know the answer to this because we don't know the situations of the coaches, what sort of discussions they've had with their Universities about NIL, 34 scholies, facility investments, etc.

With all of the, "yeah but..." out of the way here's the people that I personally wish we would talk to broken into tiers.

Tier 1:
  • Brian O'Connor, UVA (will UVA pony up for scholarships and NIL?)
  • Kevin O'Sullivan, UF (hoping his personal situation might have him moving, unlikely)
  • Erik Bakich (hope and a prayer, unlikely)

Tier 2:
  • Rob Vaughn, Bama (young, moderate success in the SEC, Texas boy)
  • Dan McDonnell, Louisville (You'd have to ask, "what happened? and why?")
  • Mitch Canham, Oregon State (might be nice to actually play a few home games Mitch!)
  • Dan Fitzgerald, KU (this one may be too high but he's one I believe in. Limited track record but consistent improvement at a non-baseball school. History at DBU and LSU on the recruiting trail)

Tier 3:
  • Wes Johnson, Georgia (limited track record, but impressive so far)
  • Butch Thompson, Auburn (wins more than I give him credit for in the premier conference)
  • Cliff Godwin, ECU (could he carry success to a major program?)
  • Mark Wasikowski (can he win without Nike money? Is he tired of traveling to Happy Valley for a road trip?)

It's far from a complete, or perfect, list and it's sort of off the top of my head, but like most on this board I've been thinking about it for awhile. Vitello, Van Horn, etc. aren't on the list because I don't think they're attainable. Bakich probably isn't either, but I put him on nonetheless. I think Forbes is a really good coach as well, but he's never coached outside of a very small geographic region in the Carolinas, and I don't think he has any interest in leaving.

Of the probably attainable ones on there I'd say my rough wish list would be:

1. Brian O'Connor
2. Rob Vaughn
3. Dan Fitzgerald/Wes Johnson

All good options.
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In reply to Sean98 • 10:18a, 5/27/25
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Why not Skip. Did they bump his contract and buyout too much last year?

Wes is clearly already out. Bulldogs locked him up bc State reached out.
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10:19a, 5/27/25
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Wes Johnson just signed an extension with UGA.
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10:22a, 5/27/25
Dan McDonnell has Louisville back on track. It's interesting they are the #2 seed in the Vandy Regional. They beat Vandy back on May 5th.
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In reply to Sean98 • 10:28a, 5/27/25
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This one is such a mystery to me. He had that program rolling.
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In reply to LB12Diamond • 10:47a, 5/27/25
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LB12Diamond said:
Why not Skip. Did they bump his contract and buyout too much last year?

Wes is clearly already out. Bulldogs locked him up bc State reached out.
He's probably should have been in Tier 3. He's bumping up against my self imposed Age cap and hasn't been so successful that I'm willing to overlook it. I think he'd be fine but not a home run.

I haven't paid attention to the contract stuff for other coaches recently, so please give me a pass on that for now.
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In reply to Sean98 • 10:48a, 5/27/25
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Wes Johnson just got a massive pay day/extension because Ms St was knocking. He's off the board. Otherwise flip Louisville HC with Godwin and I think your rankings aren't far off
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10:51a, 5/27/25
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Looch on TA Live basically saying a decision has not yet been made. Trev will likely meet with coach once he returns from spring meetings in Destin and then make a decision. Looch says it's 50/50 at this point a change will be made.
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In reply to TheDoctor • 10:53a, 5/27/25
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TheDoctor said:
Looch on TA Live basically saying a decision has not yet been made. Trev will likely meet with coach once he returns from spring meetings in Destin and then make a decision. Looch says it's 50/50 at this point a change will be made.
But I've had multiple posters on here tell me that there is no way he's coming back, and the big money donors weren't going to stand for losing even more ground to the sips. Surely they weren't stating wishful thinking as fact?
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In reply to TheDoctor • 10:56a, 5/27/25
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TheDoctor said:
Looch on TA Live basically saying a decision has not yet been made. Trev will likely meet with coach once he returns from spring meetings in Destin and then make a decision. Looch says it's 50/50 at this point a change will be made.
I mean, this shouldn't be surprising. Until we have a new coach committed in principle you haven't decided to move on.
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In reply to Aston 91 • 11:16a, 5/27/25
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Aston 91 said:
TheDoctor said:
Looch on TA Live basically saying a decision has not yet been made. Trev will likely meet with coach once he returns from spring meetings in Destin and then make a decision. Looch says it's 50/50 at this point a change will be made.
But I've had multiple posters on here tell me that there is no way he's coming back, and the big money donors weren't going to stand for losing even more ground to the sips. Surely they weren't stating wishful thinking as fact?


Hey that's mainly me. And if I was mistaken I will own it. Kendall Rogers stated the same so I'm not going to lose to much sleep on it. It would be the first time I missed on something like this and thinking out loud, I guess A&M does not care about baseball as much I thought. Or even worse, Trev is leading this and not a great sign for him if no change is made.

In the end, It's not about me or you. I'll man up and tell you right now I was totally mistaken if we do not hire a new coach.

I just care about Aggie baseball and this would set us back more.
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11:20a, 5/27/25
I personally would not put so much stock in what KR says. He has been right and wrong. Do you have a personal connection with him to know his sources?
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In reply to MagnumLoad • 11:22a, 5/27/25
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MagnumLoad said:
I personally would not put so much stock in what KR says. He has been right and wrong. Do you have a personal connection with him to know his sources?
Of all the people that cover college baseball, he seems to be one of the most well connected. I tend to put more weight on what he says than many others.
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In reply to MagnumLoad • 11:23a, 5/27/25
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Yes, we are tight. Always hit the chicken and dry bean when he's here.
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11:23a, 5/27/25
That might be a low bar.
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In reply to TheDoctor • 11:24a, 5/27/25
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TheDoctor said:
Looch on TA Live basically saying a decision has not yet been made. Trev will likely meet with coach once he returns from spring meetings in Destin and then make a decision. Looch says it's 50/50 at this point a change will be made.

Looch isn't going to come out and say that Earley will be let go, not how he operates
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11:25a, 5/27/25
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In reply to MagnumLoad • 11:25a, 5/27/25
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MagnumLoad said:
That might be a low bar.


It's not really low. Just a little tight at time when it's crowded.
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11:25a, 5/27/25
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People should stop talking in absolutes on here.

And talking about "big money donors" like they are a monolith. They have their individual opinions just like everyone else. They aren't a hive mind. I know at least one guy in this category that wants to make a move. But even he says he only speaks for himself.
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In reply to TheDoctor • 11:34a, 5/27/25
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TheDoctor said:
Looch on TA Live basically saying a decision has not yet been made. Trev will likely meet with coach once he returns from spring meetings in Destin and then make a decision. Looch says it's 50/50 at this point a change will be made.
What exactly are you reporting if you say 50/50? Sounds like he has no real information.
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11:35a, 5/27/25
Has Ricky Barnes been contacted?
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