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RED AG 98
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KR on Texags radio this morning:

- coaching change very likely if we miss the postseason
- believes the Ags can but not necessarily will make a blockbuster type hire
- mentioned Vaughn by name as someone he would expect to be on the list

My take is that this means he expects we make a run at a Sully or Heefner (I know, I know, I KNOW! ) type, similar to what we did in hoops. If that doesn't pan out we might land on someone in the next tier like Vaughn. I'm down with this approach...

He also said he thinks 4 more wins and we make the field, regardless of how we get them. That's a little surprising to me but hopefully the team hears it and takes it to heart.
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I would not put Heefner in a category above Vaughn personally.

As much as I like him as a coach and a person, he is less proven at an SEC level.
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RED AG 98 said:

KR on Texags radio this morning:

- coaching change very likely if we miss the postseason
- believes the Ags can but not necessarily will make a blockbuster type hire
- mentioned Vaughn by name as someone he would expect to be on the list

My take is that this means he expects we make a run at a Sully or Heefner (I know, I know, I KNOW! ) type, similar to what we did in hoops. If that doesn't pan out we might land on someone in the next tier like Vaughn. I'm down with this approach...

He also said he thinks 4 more wins and we make the field, regardless of how we get them. That's a little surprising to me but hopefully the team hears it and takes it to heart.
Heefner would not be a blockbuster hire, as the poster above me, I would put him behind Vaughn.
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RED AG 98 said:

KR on Texags radio this morning:

- coaching change very likely if we miss the postseason
- believes the Ags can but not necessarily will make a blockbuster type hire
- mentioned Vaughn by name as someone he would expect to be on the list

My take is that this means he expects we make a run at a Sully or Heefner (I know, I know, I KNOW! ) type, similar to what we did in hoops. If that doesn't pan out we might land on someone in the next tier like Vaughn. I'm down with this approach...

He also said he thinks 4 more wins and we make the field, regardless of how we get them. That's a little surprising to me but hopefully the team hears it and takes it to heart.


He mentioned O'Connor but I really don't think O'Connor will leave UVA unless he feels the pressure is mounting.
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RED AG 98
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I agree he's not blockbuster in the same way as Sully or O'Connor might be, but considering he is viewed to be unobtainable by most I included him above...

He's done more with less for much longer and has put kids in the MLB at a level on par or better than P4 schools. No, not in the SEC but he's clearly the very definition of a program builder and has done it 10 years longer than Rob. Probably irrelevant if he's not an option anyway...
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I think Heefner would be good but it would still be very risky due to the massive step up in competition and the question marks regarding how he would utilize the portal and NIL at a big time program.

Probably won't matter anyway because like others have said he's most likely never leaving DBU.
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Don't think UVA would shed O'Connor and he wasn't interested last year in A&M was the word behind the scenes. UVA has also struggled most of the year (same as A&M, ranked early as top 5 and just plummeted thru the year), but putting it together of late (like 6 wins in a row and now controlling their destiny and will make field of 64). Ultimately, don't think he's really in play regardless of what Texags thinks.
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A lot can change in one year, as we have seen first hand. Coaches who were not interested last year may be interested this year. Remember, we did not officially start our coaching search until late June (even though we probably knew in April dude was leaving.) This year, we could begin our search a month or more earlier.

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Marc Rardin needs to get a look. WKU has won 41 games and is about to make the tournament for the first time since 2009 and only the fifth time in program history. He has only been there three years. Before that he led Iowa Western to three JUCO World Series championships and reached Grand Junction almost every season. This is the type of guy who knows how to win and has built multiple programs.
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LB12Diamond said:

AgDad121619 said:

Vaughn might be great and he would a huge upgrade from current coach but I feel like we may be over rating him because they swept us early in the season - they are going to be a few games above .500 in sec play and need to see his team get beyond regionals before we anoint him as a can't miss coach


"Can't miss coach"

Who exactly is that one who is actually attainable.

The few can't miss coaches noted on this thread are not.

The obvious can't miss coaches only jump for their own personal reasons bc schools don't let them unless that one's involved.

A solid coach will win here very quickly and do better than they did at other places. Schloss did better here than he did at TCU. Do you not think Vaughn would do even better here than at Bama? And no I'm not saying he's Schloss. Just he should have even better results here.
my comment was more based on a lot of folks on TexAgs over react to what an opposing coach does against us and group think turns him into mythical status (ie if we don't get him we failed). I also tend to believe we over rate how great our job is - until Schloss showed up we had a couple of WS appearances that ended 2 and bbq. We are prob more attractive than Bama but is it enough to start over ? And I would be excited for next year if we get him - just think we always over react for a coach "that gets us".
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Would take a lot of other Head Coaches over what we have now but unfortunately I don't think our Athletic Department will do a dang thing and we will be in the lower 3rd in the SEC again next year.
If we had an ounce of want to he would have been gone after the end of the second game of the Mizz series.
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Rodgers said no post season and change very likely.
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Pumped for Earley to be in the dugout next year


Looking forward to our batters leading the league in called strike 3s
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Take a swing at Sully. Then Vaughn. Then I'd look at Hallmark.
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Someone posted the buyout for Sully is crazy. I doubt he's an option or that he even is interested in a change.
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Wabs said:

Take a swing at Sully. Then Vaughn. Then I'd look at Hallmark.
I've been a fan of Hallmark.... at least he knows how to be a head coach
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RED AG 98 said:

KR on Texags radio this morning:

- coaching change very likely if we miss the postseason
- believes the Ags can but not necessarily will make a blockbuster type hire
- mentioned Vaughn by name as someone he would expect to be on the list

My take is that this means he expects we make a run at a Sully or Heefner (I know, I know, I KNOW! ) type, similar to what we did in hoops. If that doesn't pan out we might land on someone in the next tier like Vaughn. I'm down with this approach...

He also said he thinks 4 more wins and we make the field, regardless of how we get them. That's a little surprising to me but hopefully the team hears it and takes it to heart.


In other words, another Trev type hire
I know nothing!
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jrodwh00p said:

Patt Hallmark is not a bad option
Not to me. Go in on Vaughn if you can't get a big hire. Vaughn has SEC experience and is younger.
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Every penny spent on baseball NIL this year has gone straight down the ****ter.

If we dont hire a new baseball staff we might as well redirect next year's baseball NIL to a sport where we have a chance of winning.
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RED AG 98
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Sgt. Schultz said:

RED AG 98 said:

KR on Texags radio this morning:

- coaching change very likely if we miss the postseason
- believes the Ags can but not necessarily will make a blockbuster type hire
- mentioned Vaughn by name as someone he would expect to be on the list

My take is that this means he expects we make a run at a Sully or Heefner (I know, I know, I KNOW! ) type, similar to what we did in hoops. If that doesn't pan out we might land on someone in the next tier like Vaughn. I'm down with this approach...

He also said he thinks 4 more wins and we make the field, regardless of how we get them. That's a little surprising to me but hopefully the team hears it and takes it to heart.


In other words, another Trev type hire


It's his boss and Board of Regents.
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Maroon Flash said:

Every penny spent on baseball NIL this year has gone straight down the ****ter.

If we dont hire a new baseball staff we might as well redirect next year's baseball NIL to a sport where we have a chance of winning.


Like football?

Oh wait
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Vaughn would be the best baseball hire after schloss on paper that the Ags have ever made.

I mean Johnson, Childress, and Earley were all assistants.

Chandler was a HS coach, I think.

Vaughn has taken two different programs to the NCAA postseason in his young career. Neither of which are considered baseball powers.

I mean people acting like that is a so-so hire by our standards, really have not paid attention to our history. The likelihood of getting an incredible, sure fire, elite HC running from his personal demons, again, is very unlikely.
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Wattson Stumjack said:

Vaughn would be the best baseball hire after schloss on paper that the Ags have ever made.

I mean Johnson, Childress, and Earley were all assistants.

Chandler was a HS coach, I think.

Vaughn has taken two different programs to the NCAA postseason in his young career. Neither of which are considered baseball powers.

I mean people acting like that is a so-so hire by our standards, really have not paid attention to our history. The likelihood of getting an incredible, sure fire, elite HC running from his personal demons, again, is very unlikely.
Almost any sitting head coach we hire would qualify for that statement.

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TAMU1990 said:

jrodwh00p said:

Patt Hallmark is not a bad option
Not to me. Go in on Vaughn if you can't get a big hire. Vaughn has SEC experience and is younger.
I don't disagree, but Vaughn is unattainable imho. He was very competitive at Maryland, finding a tougher road in the SEC but I think it's a tougher road in Alabama for baseball than it would be at A&M.

I mention Hallmark b/c I think he would be worlds better than what we currently have. At least he has been a successful head coach.

UTSA is not a name brand DI school and he has fielded very competitive teams in CUSA and AAC as a head coach. Last 5 seasons has finished 3rd or better in conference with > 13 members schools. Spent last 8 years in Texas as a head coach after working his way from Professional baseballs, HS coach, DI assistant and head coach across 3 different conferences. Not much postseason experience is a big knock on his resume.

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JDay said:

Marc Rardin needs to get a look. WKU has won 41 games and is about to make the tournament for the first time since 2009 and only the fifth time in program history. He has only been there three years. Before that he led Iowa Western to three JUCO World Series championships and reached Grand Junction almost every season. This is the type of guy who knows how to win and has built multiple programs.
Interesting guy
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jrodwh00p said:

TAMU1990 said:

jrodwh00p said:

Patt Hallmark is not a bad option
Not to me. Go in on Vaughn if you can't get a big hire. Vaughn has SEC experience and is younger.
I don't disagree, but Vaughn is unattainable imho. He was very competitive at Maryland, finding a tougher road in the SEC but I think it's a tougher road in Alabama for baseball than it would be at A&M.

I mention Hallmark b/c I think he would be worlds better than what we currently have. At least he has been a successful head coach.

UTSA is not a name brand DI school and he has fielded very competitive teams in CUSA and AAC as a head coach. Last 5 seasons has finished 3rd or better in conference with > 13 members schools. Spent last 8 years in Texas as a head coach after working his way from Professional baseballs, HS coach, DI assistant and head coach across 3 different conferences. Not much postseason experience is a big knock on his resume.




Hallmark or Godwin are the Bucky McMillan hires. People will be upset that we are the ones that made the call to hire them because they know that given a shot at a big time program these coaches could thrive. Meanwhile those that don't know ball will kvetch about the inability to get the big name coach.
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Godwin he'd fit perfectly he chokes repeatedly at home with regionals. Never been to Omaha before hard pass.
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I wonder if being stuck in the Big 10 now would sway Mark Wasikowski to take a look. That would be a fantastic hire.
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Any interest around Mike Glavine? I know he's NorthEastern legacy, but he's made a nobody pretty competitive.
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I say give him another year. This season was so disjointed from before last season ever finished. I've seen enough major positives that I can give more time to fix the major negatives
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This guy is available: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Hyde

(I've done zero research. lol)
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jrodwh00p said:

TAMU1990 said:

jrodwh00p said:

Patt Hallmark is not a bad option
Not to me. Go in on Vaughn if you can't get a big hire. Vaughn has SEC experience and is younger.
I don't disagree, but Vaughn is unattainable imho. He was very competitive at Maryland, finding a tougher road in the SEC but I think it's a tougher road in Alabama for baseball than it would be at A&M.

I mention Hallmark b/c I think he would be worlds better than what we currently have. At least he has been a successful head coach.

UTSA is not a name brand DI school and he has fielded very competitive teams in CUSA and AAC as a head coach. Last 5 seasons has finished 3rd or better in conference with > 13 members schools. Spent last 8 years in Texas as a head coach after working his way from Professional baseballs, HS coach, DI assistant and head coach across 3 different conferences. Not much postseason experience is a big knock on his resume.


We're not going to get him on the cheap. I think Vaughn is attainable but we need to go in with $2M to start negotiating. Baseball will always be the #3 sport at Bama. They don't sell out their park and we have better NIL. He's from Texas with an Aggie family. I'd rather do that than get Hallmark. We can not fail in this search.

We're going to have to pay to get out of this. I honestly think we're not going to get the big name and we should have made calls to Vaughn already to know what it's going to take for him to leave. Otherwise, we're looking at bringing Earley back if we're not willing to pay.
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How come we never talk about Ski Johnson? He does the most with the least
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What positives?

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