My bad. I assumed he wanted a long and illustrious career.

Can't believe Robert Downey Jr did a stupid super hero summer blockbuster. Hope it doesn't hurt his career.

RDJ had no career when he got tabbed for Ironman.

Good lord man. Godzilla is not going to ruin his career.

aTm, what are the lottery numbers coming up? I mean, you must know the future since you know this film will ruin Cranston's career.

Breaking Bad IS Cranston's Taxi Driver.

Was Malcolm in the middle his godfather part 2?

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Past monster movies haven't been bad because they were monster movies. They've been bad because they had crappy writing, plot, dialog, acting, and special effects. Get a good team together and take the project seriously and you can make a popular, enjoyable flick. For example, Pacific Rim made almost a half a billion dollars and even managed to score 71% on Rotten Tomatoes. So this isn't an an automatic fail by Cranston.

One other thing: Cranston was born in the mid fifties, so he probably grew up watching those crap Godzilla movies and, being an 8-12 year old kid, probably enjoyed the hell out of them, cheesy though they were. Maybe this is fulfilling a lifelong dream or something.

Comparing Cranston to De Niro is ridiculous. It's not like Cranston is an emerging talent like De Niro was in the early 70's when those movies were being made. Cranston is a good actor who was on a popular TV show but he'll never be an icon like De Niro, regardless of whether he does a stupid monster movie or not.

I'm not saying that this WILL ruin his career (though if it's terrible then it might). I'm just saying that at this point, he could have picked just about anything. So why pick this?

The reason monster movies have been historically bad is because it's a lazy plot device. Good writers know that they should not need to depend on those. Need to create emotion? Let's have a 500 foot tall monster scare the crap out of everybody! I understand why studios produce them. They are guaranteed money makers. I can also understand why directors do them. Often there is an agreement to do a cheesy money maker so that they can do what they really want later. However, why do actors take the roles? Matthew Broderick was not at the peak of his career when he took Godzilla. Charlton Heston wasn't either when he took Airport 1975. Disaster movies are like the movie equivalent of The Love Boat. The only people who appeared on that show were up and comers who didn't have a name yet and people who had already reached their prime and were trying to squeeze out a few more dollars. In addition, big special effects are the Elvis of today. Back after the McCarthy era, when a bunch of good writers where blacklisted, Hollywood got lazy and pumped out a bunch of crappy movies featuring Elvis. The dude was a guaranteed box office draw no matter how crappy the movie was.

Maybe these guys do with Godzilla what Nolan did with Batman. That would be a home run for everybody involved. But it seems to be easier to make Batman, Joker, etc. deep characters than to do much of anything with people running away from a huge monster.

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Why does it really matter why he decided to do this movie? Maybe it was for the money, maybe he actually thinks its going to be really good, or maybe he just grew up a Godzilla fan and thinks it would be awesome to do this role. It's not the 1970s. Actors make so much more money than they did 40 years ago. It's not beneath him, its not going to ruin his career no matter how bad it is or even stall his career. Good actors make bad movies all the time and 99% of the time, it does not affect their career in any way.

I hope you guys realize you're about 3 posts away from TCTTS scolding you about derailing his thread and demanding you make a separate thread called "Deniro vs. Cranston" so this thread can solely focus on Godzilla.

He can pick whatever project he wants to work on. He could become a janitor if he wanted. But I assume he want's a long and successful career. To do that he needs to shake the Walter White persona. Look at James Gandolfini after Sopranos. He will always be Tony forever. I think to do that, Cranston has to knock a great role (that is different from WW) out of the park. I don't see how that is entirely possible in a disaster movie.

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He can't ruin his career with the millions of BB fans. Impossible.
Looking forward to this movie.

If Affleck can come back from Gigli to become one of the most respected directors in all of Hollywood, I think Cranston will be fine.

Affleck didn't direct Gigli. You notice how Martin Brest, who did, hasn't directed anything since.

Directors can be a dime-a-dozen and one or two flops in a row will not kill a career. Martin Brest has made a whopping seven films in 25 years, so he was not exactly working at a blistering pace.

Renny Harlin hasn't had a bona-fide hit since Deep Blue Sea in 1999 (and had fallen to making DTV films and television shows) and yet he was just handed $70 million to make a Hercules movie starring a guy from one of the Twilight films.

So, yeah.........memories are short in Hollywood.

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On average, Martin Brest made a movie every 4 years until he did Gigli. He hasn't made once since. That was 11 years ago. If you don't think there is a correlation there, then I don't know what to tell you.

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Ha, I politely ASKED - one time - if we could stop talking so much about the EU in an Episode VII thread. Never once did I scold, never once did I demand. I love how blown out of proportion that's become.

Besides, all this Cranston talk is kind of funny. Especially listening to aTmAG be so bullheaded about it.

This looks terrible.

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I can definitely understand certain people not being into this movie, or monster movies in general. I totally get that. But saying it looks "terrible" seems a little... extreme.

Cranston was in Argo, which won Best Picture. Cranston is fine. Even if this movie flops, he is fine. Not sure how there's been 2 pages of discussion about this.

EVERYONE does a blockbuster or two, even DeNiro. (Stardust anyone?)

I'm not sure how you think he could cherry pick his roles at this point. Look I love Walter White, Breaking Bad, and Bryan Cranston... but the leap from a cable tv show to huge movie star is not an easy one. He is not a huge box office pull.

He has done a pretty good job in my opinion so far of his roles in movies.

Lincoln Lawyer - small part
Drive - small but memorable part in Gosling's Taxi Driver
Argo - small part
John Carter - Very small part (thankfully)
Rock of Ages - (No clue how big his part was)
Totall Recall - Main villain in a crappy movie where he basically played Walter White with hair.

Before Breaking Bad, he could barely get a guest role on a TNT show, so I would say his rise has been pretty impressive. And now he has the lead in a $160 million dollar summer blockbuster remake of one of the most famous franchises in film history.

Who knows if it's good, but there are a lot of really good actors in it... And I've seen the movie that essentially got the director this picture Monsters (72% on RT), and it was definitely more than just a giant creature/disaster movie. It was more of an arthouse character study, so there will probably be opportunities for him to show his acting chops. Hell, I was pretty impressed by his lines in the beginning of the trailer.

His career will be fine, and this will probably make him a much bigger star... And if I were an actor I'd jump at the chance to be in Godzilla.

This movie will probably have good cinematography. But 2/3rds the way through the film, when things are the darkest and hope is nearly lost, someone will come up with a silver bullet to defeat the monster.

Unless this film ends with Godzilla winning, and the humans coping with being insignificant, it will be, at best, another run of the mill action film.

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Bullheaded? If anybody is emotional about this, it's you. You jump in to defend anytime anybody comes in to say the movie might be bad. I, on the otherhand, don't care. I may or may not see this in the theaters. I'm just pointing out the weird choice by Cranston. I want him to be around for a long time and would hate for him to go Cuba Gooding Jr. on us.

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Unless this film ends with Godzilla winning, and the humans coping with being insignificant, it will be, at best, another run of the mill action film.

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So knowing the good guys win makes automatically makes a movie run of the mill? So basically every movie ever, save for a few exceptions each year?

Good guys win in different ways versus other humans. A good movie is having the means and the reveal be smart.


In a monster movie, the means is never smart because it always relies on the non-real assumptions about the monster. So the means to victory is circular. "Remember 20 mins ago when we established the monster has a low tolerance to ______, we will use that x11ty to win!" Then they win "see we told you!"

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I'm just pointing out the weird choice by Cranston

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You are literally the only one who thinks this

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I'm not sure how you think he could cherry pick his roles at this point. Look I love Walter White, Breaking Bad, and Bryan Cranston... but the leap from a cable tv show to huge movie star is not an easy one. He is not a huge box office pull.

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Nobody is a box office pull before they hit it big. He just hit it big. BB didn't have a very big audience early on. Thanks to netflix and the pre-finale marathon, the audience exploded at the very end. His name is big now, and might not get this big again. If there is ever a time to be picky for a role it is right now.

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Before Breaking Bad, he could barely get a guest role on a TNT show, so I would say his rise has been pretty impressive. And now he has the lead in a $160 million dollar summer blockbuster remake of one of the most famous franchises in film history.

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We now live post-BB not before. Harrison Ford couldn't get crap before SW either. The "famous franchise" is a sort of a joke franchise don't you think? Everybody made fun of the old ones, and the last one wasn't great either.

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Who knows if it's good, but there are a lot of really good actors in it... And I've seen the movie that essentially got the director this picture Monsters (72% on RT), and it was definitely more than just a giant creature/disaster movie. It was more of an arthouse character study, so there will probably be opportunities for him to show his acting chops. Hell, I was pretty impressed by his lines in the beginning of the trailer.

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That is a good sign. Maybe this could be more than just a monster flick, but it's hard to imagine right now. Jurassic park, IMO, was a great movie. Blew me away visually. But have any of those actors careers exploded because of it? Not really. I was impressed by Cranston's lines too. I think he is a great actor. He might actually carry this movie.

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His career will be fine, and this will probably make him a much bigger star... And if I were an actor I'd jump at the chance to be in Godzilla.

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I would if I was most actors. But I think he might be in the situation to put himself in a Daniel Day-Lewis class of actor if he plays his cards right. I think picking a disaster movie was not the best choice. Though if he was going to pick one, this would probably be one of the better ones to pick.

He is not even close to being in the same class as Daniel Day Lewis.

Sir Anthony Hopkins disagrees.

I agree with the debt. I can’t think of a resolution to a monster that survives nukes that would’t be cheesy.