David Ayer is actually in the credits of The Suicide Squad in the "thanks to" section

That's awesome. He and Gunn seems to have a good relationship.

What's funny/awful is that Ayer has always been supportive of Gunn's Suicide Squad, even from the jump. Part of Snyder cult is calling for a boycott of Gunn's movie until Ayer gets his "Ayer Cut", despite that. Of course, they think all non-direct Snyderverse movies and shows need to be boycotted.

The one where he makes that woman tear her dress off

The original dr strange 2 director left over creative differences. Why don't more people do that instead of what happened with Ayer

What happened with Scott Derrickson (director of the first Doctor Strange) happened before filming began on the sequel. What happened with Ayer happened in post-production, while the film was being edited. In other words, it was much easier for Derrickson to walk.

He apparently wants to do another Suicide Squad spin-off HBO Max show and then a project with some more unknowns that aren't part of SS.

I'm in the minority but the trailer doesn't do it for me. I'll have low expectations and probably not an opening weekend ticket for me. And I'm a guarantee for any Marvel or DC movie.

I'm really looking forward to this movie. I'm hopeful this helps DC figure things out. Rather than have a ton of restrictions, like Marvel, they can make a niche for themselves where they just hire great directors, like Gunn, and basically let them go nuts and create something singular and awesome. I don't think they need to make all the movies interconnected like Marvel does. Shazam was a surprising success, I enjoyed it as well. The first Wonder Woman is also a decent movie.

Edgar Wright was originally going to direct Ant-Man but after creative differences he left. I'd love to see Edgar Wright direct a Green Lantern film. If there's a guy whose imagination is tailor-made for a character like that, it's Edgar Wright. A superhero whose weaponry is only limited by his imagination.

DC tried to do the interconnected films with Batman vs Superman and Justice League, and they're terrible. If they concentrate on getting stand alone films right, maybe something comes along later organically for putting some of them together.

There's still a lot I like about Man of Steel, Snyder was pretty close to making a great Superman movie. With the right director and the right story Superman is easily a worldwide billion dollar franchise. I'd love it if DC got their act together and made the definitive Superman film at some point in the not too distant future.

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I'm really looking forward to this movie. I'm hopeful this helps DC figure things out. Rather than have a ton of restrictions, like Marvel, they can make a niche for themselves where they just hire great directors, like Gunn, and basically let them go nuts and create something singular and awesome. I don't think they need to make all the movies interconnected like Marvel does. Shazam was a surprising success, I enjoyed it as well. The first Wonder Woman is also a decent movie.

Edgar Wright was originally going to direct Ant-Man but after creative differences he left. I'd love to see Edgar Wright direct a Green Lantern film. If there's a guy whose imagination is tailor-made for a character like that, it's Edgar Wright. A superhero whose weaponry is only limited by his imagination.

DC tried to do the interconnected films with Batman vs Superman and Justice League, and they're terrible. If they concentrate on getting stand alone films right, maybe something comes along later organically for putting some of them together.

There's still a lot I like about Man of Steel, Snyder was pretty close to making a great Superman movie. With the right director and the right story Superman is easily a worldwide billion dollar franchise. I'd love it if DC got their act together and made the definitive Superman film at some point in the not too distant future.

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For what it is worth, I generally liked the bitter, cynical, and angry Batman they created and the young Kal-El/Clark Kent that hasn't grown into Superman yet.

It's just that everything around those characters didn't make sense or just didn't work. Case in point, Batman pulling a complete 180 towards Superman, "Why did you say that name!" or Lex Luther in general.

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DC tried to do the interconnected films with Batman vs Superman and Justice League, and they're terrible. If they concentrate on getting stand alone films right, maybe something comes along later organically for putting some of them together.

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They HAD to do it that way, though (or so they thought). Marvel was pulling all their heroes together in blockbusters like IW/Endgame, and even movies like Civil War. So DC had to pull their heroes together, too.

It was a terribad idea and the results were awful, but they buckled under the pressure.

Just booked my tickets for the 3-screen theater a short walk from me in South Seattle. This will be the first DC movie I've seen in theaters since Wonder Woman. Feeling psyched

That's why I said "or so they thought"...

Anyone seeing this tonight, either in theaters or on HBO Max?

Going to try and see it myself in IMAX either Saturday or Sunday...

Leaning towards doing a late night Imax showing

Nice. Looking forward to reactions.

I would've done so earlier but I could've sworn it wasn't on HBO Max till midnight. Just realized it's up already.

Yeah, I think HBO Max recently switched to having movies up relatively early on Thursdays the last couple months.

Saw it tonight. In three words: hilarious, crazy, and gross.

A ton of fun.

It's got great ratings on rotten tomatoes. Hopefully it is still successful for them. It's a winner.

Pretty enjoyable. Also thought it would have more humor.

That was a bonkers, crazy movie.

My gf described it as Kill Bill meets Deadpool meets Guardians of the Galaxy.

It was really, really, really gory. Almost too much for me (I'm not someone who loves gore), but the fact it was so over the top helped make it bearable.

If you're tired of the usual super hero shtick, this will certainly mix it up for you. They did a great job giving the characters heart.

These are all so great to hear.

That was pretty hilarious at parts and overall great.

Gunn knows how to make movies about no name characters.

Exactly what the first Suicide Squad should have been. Even had a pretty major Justice League esque baddie. Easily top 5 DCEU movie.

My wife and I watched this last night and neither of us liked it very much, there were some laughs, but overall a big nope from me. We did like the first SS movie, so maybe that puts us in the minority here?