Severance (Apple TV)

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BDG02
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It's got bush, what the hellllll?
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The season finale is going to be so good. Great pentultimate
K Bo
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Devour feculence
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I don't think burt is telling Irving everything. I think, for whatever reason, Burt needs Irving to leave. And I still don't think Burt is severed.

I didn't think it was possible but I am actually starting to believe the conspiracy that Devon could be with Lumon. I'm 5% convinced. She treated Innie Mark so strangely there at the end. I can't really put my finger on it.

This was a good build up episode that set so many things in motion.... Except, I still have no idea what is in motion. Should be fun next week
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"I wish you'd take them raw"

What a weird f'ing line
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Creepy dude. Also doesn't remotely seem in charge.
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I think she treated innie Mark weird because it had happened many times already. He'd walk in, freak out, walk back out, walk in, etc.

I think she was just doing whatever she could to not freak him out.
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I'm even more convinced of my Devon theory. Of course, I am probably completely wrong and will have egg on my face, or rather "a conspicuous lapse in discernment", as our mustachioed friend would say.
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Everyone needs to at least read a summary of the after hours twilight zone episode. Gold thimble, 9th floor, mannequins.
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This almost felt like the penultimate episode to an alternate, longer-running version of the series, not just the season...

- Outtie Irving finally feeling loved, if only for a brief moment, and then put a train and told never to return...

- Innie Dylan deciding to essentially end his life...

- Helly coming face to face with Jame Eagan...

- Milchick finally standing up for himself...

- Ms. Huang being shipped off to god knows where...

- Cold Harbor frozen at 96%...

- The severed floor feeling all but defunct/abandoned...

Or, rather, if feels like to the end of season three of Mad Men or the end season two of Westworld, when each show was damn near rebooted and we left many of the old sets/situations behind.

In other words, whatever happens next week, it feels like there's no coming back, and that the show will be something fundamentally different come season three.

And I could not be more excited.
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Did Dylan G quit unilaterally, or did his outie agree? S1 showed you could request to quit, but your outie would have to approve. If so how did they make the outie request that same workday; he didn't leave the severed floor.

TCTTS
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I honestly have no clue. Was a little confused as well.
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I believe this was part of the reforms after the events at the end of season 1
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Ah, good call.
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BDG02
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Lumon loves you.
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I'm still enjoying the show, but if I'm being honest, I feel like this season could be half as many episodes. A lot of nothing happened this episode.
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BDG02
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What was with the train station by the way. Why was every one there dressed like they were in the 1940s? The ticket booth operator with vest and hat, the men with topcoats and hats, women with dresses, heels, and updos.
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Everything Bert described to Irving about what he did for Lumon he still ended up doing to Irv.

"I never killed anyone. I just take them somewhere and never see them again."

That's what he did to Irving.
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TCTTS said:



Praise Kier.
Class of '91 (MEEN)
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Totally agree that it feels like we're setting up for a series reset after this season. No way they can go back to anything like what the first season and a half was. Hopefully it doesn't take another three years for us to get Season3!
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Lol the quips this episode were great

"Sorry, the wind was whistling over the hole in the back of your skull, so I didn't quite get that".

"Oh my god so good, my wife is being held at Lumon and I just had brain surgery in my basement. How are you?"

"To put that monosyllabically: 'It's not my fault what Mark Scout does when he's not at work. It's yours.'"

The Dylan scenes were sad. He even cut up one of his treasured finger traps to make that ring! So many throuples in the show!

Deeply unsettling vibes from the starting egg scene to the end with Cobel looking evil in the firelight. I wasn't part of the "Devon is Lumen theory", but there was definitely a look between them at the end
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FightinTexasAg15 said:

Lol the quips this episode were great

"Sorry, the wind was whistling over the hole in the back of your skull, so I didn't quite get that".

"Oh my god so good, my wife is being held at Lumon and I just had brain surgery in my basement. How are you?"

"To put that monosyllabically: 'It's not my fault what Mark Scout does when he's not at work. It's yours.'"

The Dylan scenes were sad. He even cut up one of his treasured finger traps to make that ring! So many throuples in the show!

Deeply unsettling vibes from the starting egg scene to the end with Cobel looking evil in the firelight. I wasn't part of the "Devon is Lumen theory", but there was definitely a look between them at the end
There's just something unsettling and tragic about the Dylan situation. It's him, but it's not.
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I feel like the wife "cheating" with the innie wouldnt be a big deal if they had a good relationship at home.

They probably aren't affectionate at home at all so it made it cheating.

If they were having sex every night at home he would probably be like hell yeah give my innie some action too.

Such a weird dynamic.
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Also since he wanted to quit already, it's not like innie Dylan even needs to unilaterally quit. If he says he wants to quit AND outie Dylan already wanted to quit, easy peasy. What I think will happen is they'll convince outie Dylan not to quit because they need Mark to cooperate. Then innie Dylan will keep showing up regardless of what he wants. They'll just tell him his outie rejected his request.
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FightinTexasAg15 said:

Lol the quips this episode were great

"Oh my god so good, my wife is being held at Lumon and I just had brain surgery in my basement. How are you?"

I love when Parks and Rec Adam Scott shows up.
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BQRyno said:

Also since he wanted to quit already, it's not like innie Dylan even needs to unilaterally quit. If he says he wants to quit AND outie Dylan already wanted to quit, easy peasy. What I think will happen is they'll convince outie Dylan not to quit because they need Mark to cooperate. Then innie Dylan will keep showing up regardless of what he wants. They'll just tell him his outie rejected his request.

I'm terrified this is exactly what's going to happen and innie Dylan is going to succeed in actually killing himself and wreck that whole precious family.
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MW03 said:

(1) They want a master chip that can isolate everything without any bleed over, no matter the trauma.
(2) All they have left to test is whether the death of one consciousness kills the other consciousnesses, and if so, is there any bleed over.

  • We now know that Cold Harbor relates to Cobel, and specifically where she grew up and where her mother died.
  • We now know that Cobel created the severance process, and we suspect that it had to do with processing the grief from her mother's passing.
  • We know that the Cold Harbor project is some kind of culmination and somehow tied to Mark.
  • Last night, Cobel said that if they have completed Cold Harbor, Gemma is already dead.

Two theories, closely tied:

(1) As mentioned above, they intend to see if they can kill the real Gemma's consciousness, leaving only the severed "innie" versions of Gemma. They want to confront a severed Gemma with Mark to see if the real Gemma's consciousness is truly gone.

(2) They intend to kill Gemma (all Gemmas) to test whether or not Innie Mark can completely suppress any bleed over from Outie Mark.

I suppose as a third, they could also just mean one final test, after which, they would kill Gemma to make sure there are no witnesses. I don't get that vibe though.

I'm having trouble connecting all of this to the Kier mythology though. I don't really see them as being profit-driven; it seems more like it's a religiousy pursuit. Is it possible they want a truly severed vessel with no remaining vestiges of the real personality that they can put Kier's consciousness into or something? Have a Kier second-coming?
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MW03 said:

I'm having trouble connecting all of this to the Kier mythology though. I don't really see them as being profit-driven; it seems more like it's a religiousy pursuit. Is it possible they want a truly severed vessel with no remaining vestiges of the real personality that they can put Kier's consciousness into or something? Have a Kier second-coming?


The Lumon brass alluding to the momentousness of Cold Harbor makes me think severance is a step towards some kind of immortality technology. They have to kill Gemma (in her present body) to prove it. It would also be consistent with Cobel's grief over her mother's death being the motivation to invent severance.
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I'm lost.

Someone explain to me why they have to go to the birthing place to talk to Cobel.

Why does outie Mark change to innie Mark in the cabin?
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Devon met the senator's wife there in S1 who she later learned was severed and only had met her "innie" at the cabins. She was severed to avoid the pain and memory of childbirth.

Devon has worked out it's a severance facility and if they go there they can speak with Mark's innie. It's the only way they can transfer a message to his innie outside of Lumon HQ access.
 
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