Yeah, I think Corbel betrays him but Milchik turns
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I think Cobel will try to convince Marc to stop work on Cold Harbor by saying it will kill Gemma. She could be telling the truth, or she could be showing Lumon she still has power over Marc.
Milchick will try to say it will free Gemma. Although, I think they are setting up a switch by Milchick, I don't think they are there yet.
Who knows which will be telling the truth.
Random prediction, I think Helena kills her dad, but not try and free anyone. I think she does it to try to claim full control of Lumon.
I'm hoping they have a good plot planned with Irv and Dylan in the next episode. It seems like they are getting ready for a show exit. They haven't really done much, and don't seem to be involved in the main storyline anymore.
Milchick will try to say it will free Gemma. Although, I think they are setting up a switch by Milchick, I don't think they are there yet.
Who knows which will be telling the truth.
Random prediction, I think Helena kills her dad, but not try and free anyone. I think she does it to try to claim full control of Lumon.
I'm hoping they have a good plot planned with Irv and Dylan in the next episode. It seems like they are getting ready for a show exit. They haven't really done much, and don't seem to be involved in the main storyline anymore.
I mean shes already told outie Marc and Devon this info so thats no secret now whether she is all in to help them or notAustinAg2K said:
I think Cobel will try to convince Marc to stop work on Cold Harbor by saying it will kill Gemma. She could be telling the truth, or she could be showing Lumon she still has power over Marc.
Milchick will try to say it will free Gemma. Although, I think they are setting up a switch by Milchick, I don't think they are there yet.
Who knows which will be telling the truth.
Is there a chance that Milchick doesn't really know what the end game of the work is and he's been kept in the dark by Lumon higher ups?AustinAg2K said:
Milchick will try to say it will free Gemma. Although, I think they are setting up a switch by Milchick, I don't think they are there yet.
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I think Cobel will try to convince Marc to stop work on Cold Harbor by saying it will kill Gemma. She could be telling the truth, or she could be showing Lumon she still has power over Marc.
Oh good call. Could be a power grab by Cobel since they told her she overestimated her importance.
Y'all know it's Mark, not Marc, right?
Pahdz said:Is there a chance that Milchick doesn't really know what the end game of the work is and he's been kept in the dark by Lumon higher ups?AustinAg2K said:
Milchick will try to say it will free Gemma. Although, I think they are setting up a switch by Milchick, I don't think they are there yet.
He's a severed robot. He is definitely in the dark just doing the scope of what he's been told to do
That interchange between Milchick and Gemma where he was clearly summoned in the middle of the night to herd her back down the elevator does not give me the impression that he has no idea what they are up to down there.
I think Miss Huang is "going away" the same way Gemma went away. I think they believe Mark S will finish Cold Harbor then "something" will happen to Gemma but they will need to verify whatever it was works on others...enter Miss Huang.
Wintertide fellowship done she moves on to...Cold Harbor
Wintertide fellowship done she moves on to...Cold Harbor
DannyDuberstein said:Pahdz said:Is there a chance that Milchick doesn't really know what the end game of the work is and he's been kept in the dark by Lumon higher ups?AustinAg2K said:
Milchick will try to say it will free Gemma. Although, I think they are setting up a switch by Milchick, I don't think they are there yet.
He's a severed robot. He is definitely in the dark just doing the scope of what he's been told to do
Is he though? We've never been given any indication that he's severed. Furthermore, he's been Lumon Milchick at all hours of the day on this show.
Yes, my theory a few pages back is that he is severed from some part of himself both in and out of Lumon.YouBet said:DannyDuberstein said:Pahdz said:Is there a chance that Milchick doesn't really know what the end game of the work is and he's been kept in the dark by Lumon higher ups?AustinAg2K said:
Milchick will try to say it will free Gemma. Although, I think they are setting up a switch by Milchick, I don't think they are there yet.
He's a severed robot. He is definitely in the dark just doing the scope of what he's been told to do
Is he though? We've never been given any indication that he's severed. Furthermore, he's been Lumon Milchick at all hours of the day on this show.
This was my line of thinking as well. We don't know for sure either way, but in Ep 7 where he rides his motorcycle to the stairwell to redirect Casey back to the test floor gave me the impression that maybe he wasn't severed.YouBet said:DannyDuberstein said:Pahdz said:Is there a chance that Milchick doesn't really know what the end game of the work is and he's been kept in the dark by Lumon higher ups?AustinAg2K said:
Milchick will try to say it will free Gemma. Although, I think they are setting up a switch by Milchick, I don't think they are there yet.
He's a severed robot. He is definitely in the dark just doing the scope of what he's been told to do
Is he though? We've never been given any indication that he's severed. Furthermore, he's been Lumon Milchick at all hours of the day on this show.
He clearly was aware of the situation, knew why he was there and knew her name. I guess his outie could have simply been told there was an emergency at work, and he was unaware of the specifics until the exact moment Casey opened that stairway door.
YouBet said:DannyDuberstein said:Pahdz said:Is there a chance that Milchick doesn't really know what the end game of the work is and he's been kept in the dark by Lumon higher ups?AustinAg2K said:
Milchick will try to say it will free Gemma. Although, I think they are setting up a switch by Milchick, I don't think they are there yet.
He's a severed robot. He is definitely in the dark just doing the scope of what he's been told to do
Is he though? We've never been given any indication that he's severed. Furthermore, he's been Lumon Milchick at all hours of the day on this show.
I think he's 24 hours per day, basically anywhere severed
ah I see. Either not severed or fully severed even outside of the severed floor would work based I what I think we know.
Milchick says he's not severed. He could be lying about that. I guess we'll see. I do think it's interesting that we have only ever seen him at work or doing something for work.
He definitely crosses the severed floor with at least some context, both in scene about involving Casey and earlier this season where Dylan is fired.
AustinAg2K said:
I'm hoping they have a good plot planned with Irv and Dylan in the next episode. It seems like they are getting ready for a show exit. They haven't really done much, and don't seem to be involved in the main storyline anymore.
I could be completely wrong, but it felt to me like the filmmakers removing Irving and Dylan from the board - for now, until next season - so as to devote as much of the finale runtime to the Mark/Devon/Cobel vs Lumon drama as possible.
That said, while I don't think we'll see Irving again until next season (if ever again), of the two, I could still see Dylan potentially being used in the finale to some degree. I just wouldn't expect to see either one, leaving the door cracked to being pleasantly surprised if at least Dylan makes a finale appearance.
Who knows, though.
Otherwise, I have zero predictions for what's about to unfold. Just absolutely no clue.
For me, this is has been the big miss of the season so far. Teasing/executing Mark's reintegration so early, only for every episode since to still not deliver on it, has been pretty frustrating. Even though I get that it's a process (medically speaking), it just hasn't been handled very well, in terms of expectations and the audience wondering every single episode if *this* will be the one where Mark finally has all his innie/outtie memories together in one mind. To that end, I've loved the story of this season, along with so many individual developments - I even enjoyed the Cobel episode more than most, it seems - I just think the overall pacing of the season has been way off...
gotta say it was funny to watch people freak out at the end of severance 203 — “no other tv show would do something so radical this early!!” — only for the series to do the most tv thing ever and walk back a major disruption to the status quo bc it would rock the boat too much
— Alison Herman (@aherman2006) March 17, 2025
Agreed. That whole mark "seizure episode" should have been when the switch was flipped. Feels a little bit like they're milking it. Hopefully the finale makes us forget about that.
I would be pretty surprised if we don't get a scene between Dylan and his wife. I agree that we won't see Irving.
I get your point, but the only other ways they could have done it is to drop it in one of the last three episodes or so. Them doing the procedure in the finale would have been lazy and cliche. Doing the procedure an episode or two before the finale and then him being completely reintegrated in the finale would have felt really rushed.TCTTS said:
For me, this is has been the big miss of the season so far. Teasing/executing Mark's reintegration so early, only for every episode since to still not deliver on it, has been pretty frustrating. Even though I get that it's a process (medically speaking), it just hasn't been handled very well, in terms of expectations and the audience wondering every single episode if *this* will be the one where Mark finally has all his innie/outtie memories together in one mind. To that end, I've loved the story of this season, along with so many individual developments - I even enjoyed the Cobel episode more than most, it seems - I just think the overall pacing of the season has been way off...gotta say it was funny to watch people freak out at the end of severance 203 — “no other tv show would do something so radical this early!!” — only for the series to do the most tv thing ever and walk back a major disruption to the status quo bc it would rock the boat too much
— Alison Herman (@aherman2006) March 17, 2025
This series doesn't do anything by the book. Doing the reintegration earlier in the season has really given us a chance to explore the other characters without this being completely centered around Mark.
I agree that we probably won't see Irv in the finale. But, they had that scene with Irv talking to someone in a phone booth, hinting at him discovering something. For a show that's so intentional, you know that has to come up again. Especially because our first introduction to his outie showed that he had been doing research for some time.
Average Joe said:I get your point, but the only other ways they could have done it is to drop it in one of the last three episodes or so. Them doing the procedure in the finale would have been lazy and cliche. Doing the procedure an episode or two before the finale and then him being completely reintegrated in the finale would have felt really rushed.TCTTS said:
For me, this is has been the big miss of the season so far. Teasing/executing Mark's reintegration so early, only for every episode since to still not deliver on it, has been pretty frustrating. Even though I get that it's a process (medically speaking), it just hasn't been handled very well, in terms of expectations and the audience wondering every single episode if *this* will be the one where Mark finally has all his innie/outtie memories together in one mind. To that end, I've loved the story of this season, along with so many individual developments - I even enjoyed the Cobel episode more than most, it seems - I just think the overall pacing of the season has been way off...gotta say it was funny to watch people freak out at the end of severance 203 — “no other tv show would do something so radical this early!!” — only for the series to do the most tv thing ever and walk back a major disruption to the status quo bc it would rock the boat too much
— Alison Herman (@aherman2006) March 17, 2025
This series doesn't do anything by the book. Doing the reintegration earlier in the season has really given us a chance to explore the other characters without this being completely centered around Mark.
I disagree. At the time, barely anyone (audience-wise) remembered that reintegration was a multi-day/week process. I and so many others expected Mark to be fully integrated the very next episode. It wasn't until the ORTBO episode the following week, when Mark still wasn't integrated, that everyone went back to season one and was like, "Oh, yeah, it wasn't instantaneous for Petey either." Even then, though, every episode after that, we kept going, "Okay, THIS is surely the episode where he'll be fully integrated," only for it to keep not happening.
At the very least, the show should have done a better job of managing those exceptions, especially when Reghabi first started messing around with Mark's head. To that end, a simple "Full reintegration will take days if not weeks" reminder from her would have done wonders.
BowSowy said:
I agree that we probably won't see Irv in the finale. But, they had that scene with Irv talking to someone in a phone booth, hinting at him discovering something. For a show that's so intentional, you know that has to come up again. Especially because our first introduction to his outie showed that he had been doing research for some time.
Yeah, that's my one Irving hangup as well. Whoever the person on the other end of the line is should be a this season thing, not a next season thing.
I think that was completely intentional and especially leading into the ORTBO episode with it, knowing it would confuse the crap out of the audience, even more than that episode would have at any other time. I don't think we were meant to know reintegration would be a slow process from watching Peter/Petey. He seemed more sick than anything and they never showed what was going on in his head. Sure, it fits, but I don't think it was known knowledge.TCTTS said:Average Joe said:I get your point, but the only other ways they could have done it is to drop it in one of the last three episodes or so. Them doing the procedure in the finale would have been lazy and cliche. Doing the procedure an episode or two before the finale and then him being completely reintegrated in the finale would have felt really rushed.TCTTS said:
For me, this is has been the big miss of the season so far. Teasing/executing Mark's reintegration so early, only for every episode since to still not deliver on it, has been pretty frustrating. Even though I get that it's a process (medically speaking), it just hasn't been handled very well, in terms of expectations and the audience wondering every single episode if *this* will be the one where Mark finally has all his innie/outtie memories together in one mind. To that end, I've loved the story of this season, along with so many individual developments - I even enjoyed the Cobel episode more than most, it seems - I just think the overall pacing of the season has been way off...gotta say it was funny to watch people freak out at the end of severance 203 — “no other tv show would do something so radical this early!!” — only for the series to do the most tv thing ever and walk back a major disruption to the status quo bc it would rock the boat too much
— Alison Herman (@aherman2006) March 17, 2025
This series doesn't do anything by the book. Doing the reintegration earlier in the season has really given us a chance to explore the other characters without this being completely centered around Mark.
I disagree. At the time, barely anyone (audience-wise) remembered that reintegration was a multi-day/week process. I and so many others expected Mark to be fully integrated the very next episode. It wasn't until the ORTBO episode the following week, when Mark still wasn't integrated, that everyone went back to season one and was like, "Oh, yeah, it wasn't instantaneous for Petey either." Even then, though, every episode after that, we kept going, "Okay, THIS is surely the episode where he'll be fully integrated," only for it to keep not happening.
At the very least, the show should have done a better job of managing those exceptions, especially when Reghabi first start messing around with Mark's head. To that end, a simple "Full reintegration will take days if not weeks" reminder from Reghabi would have done wonders.
I get what you're saying. Maybe it feels different to me because I never watched season 1 until a week before season 2 dropped. It was all pretty fresh in my mind. I forget most people waited 3 years. In that instance, yeah, all it would have taken is one quick comment to set expectations.TCTTS said:Average Joe said:I get your point, but the only other ways they could have done it is to drop it in one of the last three episodes or so. Them doing the procedure in the finale would have been lazy and cliche. Doing the procedure an episode or two before the finale and then him being completely reintegrated in the finale would have felt really rushed.TCTTS said:
For me, this is has been the big miss of the season so far. Teasing/executing Mark's reintegration so early, only for every episode since to still not deliver on it, has been pretty frustrating. Even though I get that it's a process (medically speaking), it just hasn't been handled very well, in terms of expectations and the audience wondering every single episode if *this* will be the one where Mark finally has all his innie/outtie memories together in one mind. To that end, I've loved the story of this season, along with so many individual developments - I even enjoyed the Cobel episode more than most, it seems - I just think the overall pacing of the season has been way off...gotta say it was funny to watch people freak out at the end of severance 203 — “no other tv show would do something so radical this early!!” — only for the series to do the most tv thing ever and walk back a major disruption to the status quo bc it would rock the boat too much
— Alison Herman (@aherman2006) March 17, 2025
This series doesn't do anything by the book. Doing the reintegration earlier in the season has really given us a chance to explore the other characters without this being completely centered around Mark.
I disagree. At the time, barely anyone (audience-wise) remembered that reintegration was a multi-day/week process. I and so many others expected Mark to be fully integrated the very next episode. It wasn't until the ORTBO episode the following week, when Mark still wasn't integrated, that everyone went back to season one and was like, "Oh, yeah, it wasn't instantaneous for Petey either." Even then, though, every episode after that, we kept going, "Okay, THIS is surely the episode where he'll be fully integrated," only for it to keep not happening.
At the very least, the show should have done a better job of managing those exceptions, especially when Reghabi first start messing around with Mark's head. To that end, a simple "Full reintegration will take days if not weeks" reminder from Reghabi would have done wonders.
I actually did think it would be the next episode, but for different reasons. It was so early in the season that we didn't really have any other big storylines going. Now it seems like every character has their own journey. It feels like Stranger Things with everyone always splitting off into multiple different plot lines before coming back together near the end of the season.
This is true, as well. This show does a great job of always keeping you off balance. We have compared it to Lost at times with the mysteriousness, but this show lets you get your stride for a couple of steps only to knock you off balance again.Mr President Elect said:I think that was completely intentional and especially leading into the ORTBO episode with it, knowing it would confuse the crap out of the audience, even more than that episode would have at any other time. I don't think we were meant to know reintegration would be a slow process from watching Peter/Petey. He seemed more sick than anything and they never showed what was going on in his head. Sure, it fits, but I don't think it was known knowledge.TCTTS said:Average Joe said:I get your point, but the only other ways they could have done it is to drop it in one of the last three episodes or so. Them doing the procedure in the finale would have been lazy and cliche. Doing the procedure an episode or two before the finale and then him being completely reintegrated in the finale would have felt really rushed.TCTTS said:
For me, this is has been the big miss of the season so far. Teasing/executing Mark's reintegration so early, only for every episode since to still not deliver on it, has been pretty frustrating. Even though I get that it's a process (medically speaking), it just hasn't been handled very well, in terms of expectations and the audience wondering every single episode if *this* will be the one where Mark finally has all his innie/outtie memories together in one mind. To that end, I've loved the story of this season, along with so many individual developments - I even enjoyed the Cobel episode more than most, it seems - I just think the overall pacing of the season has been way off...gotta say it was funny to watch people freak out at the end of severance 203 — “no other tv show would do something so radical this early!!” — only for the series to do the most tv thing ever and walk back a major disruption to the status quo bc it would rock the boat too much
— Alison Herman (@aherman2006) March 17, 2025
This series doesn't do anything by the book. Doing the reintegration earlier in the season has really given us a chance to explore the other characters without this being completely centered around Mark.
I disagree. At the time, barely anyone (audience-wise) remembered that reintegration was a multi-day/week process. I and so many others expected Mark to be fully integrated the very next episode. It wasn't until the ORTBO episode the following week, when Mark still wasn't integrated, that everyone went back to season one and was like, "Oh, yeah, it wasn't instantaneous for Petey either." Even then, though, every episode after that, we kept going, "Okay, THIS is surely the episode where he'll be fully integrated," only for it to keep not happening.
At the very least, the show should have done a better job of managing those exceptions, especially when Reghabi first start messing around with Mark's head. To that end, a simple "Full reintegration will take days if not weeks" reminder from Reghabi would have done wonders.
Another thing that annoyed me about this episode is that Mark was apparently uninterested in hearing every detail about Lumon from Cobel. Cobel says "your wife is already dead" if they completed Cold Harbor. Rather than ask, "Holy CRAP?!?!", "How?", "What the hell is Cold Harbor?", "Tell me EVERYTHING!!!", "Why are we standing here staring at each other??!?!", etc. he sorta stood there thinking "bummer".
he made it very clear he doesnt trust a word she says
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And yet, he trusted her enough to ride in the bed of her truck and go to that cabin.gigemJTH12 said:
he made it very clear he doesnt trust a word she says
So why wouldn't he demand answers? Who in their right mind would remain calm and not have a million questions after receiving that sort of news? Trust or not?
"We told her everything. She told us ***** We can't trust her." - MarkaTmAg said:And yet, he trusted her enough to ride in the bed of her truck and go to that cabin.gigemJTH12 said:
he made it very clear he doesnt trust a word she says
So why wouldn't he demand answers? Who in their right mind would remain calm and not have a million questions after receiving that sort of news? Trust or not?
It sounds like he tried earlier and she was stonewalling, so what else are they going to do. Besides, she probably has an NDA and couldn't reveal the finale in the penultimate
The YT algorithm is finding all sorts of Severance stuff. I thought this video on color theory in Severance was really well done, if you're into that kind of thing. No major reveals or anything that hasn't been discussed elsewhere, just a fun video from a pretty small channel.
If I remember right, he said that in the car ride on the way to meet her. So he was talking about the phone call. Then they went face to face and she drops the "Your WIFE may already be dead" bomb. Then he just sits there. Even if he didn't trust her, the notion that he would hear that and say nothing makes no sense. At least say, "BS.. I don't believe you." Something.Mr President Elect said:"We told her everything. She told us ***** We can't trust her." - MarkaTmAg said:And yet, he trusted her enough to ride in the bed of her truck and go to that cabin.gigemJTH12 said:
he made it very clear he doesnt trust a word she says
So why wouldn't he demand answers? Who in their right mind would remain calm and not have a million questions after receiving that sort of news? Trust or not?
It sounds like he tried earlier and she was stonewalling, so what else are they going to do. Besides, she probably has an NDA and couldn't reveal the finale in the penultimate
I think Turturro was interviewed between season 1 and 2 and said he didn't prefer the constant filming under the flourescents. I'm thinking Irv was always being written out of the show, but Apple wanted an out if he needed/wanted to return. That little smile on the train and the phone call give us that 'out' if he wants back in.BowSowy said:
I agree that we probably won't see Irv in the finale. But, they had that scene with Irv talking to someone in a phone booth, hinting at him discovering something. For a show that's so intentional, you know that has to come up again. Especially because our first introduction to his outie showed that he had been doing research for some time.
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