I really hated it. Loved the first two seasons and this season was totally mental and not fun or entertaining for me.

DeangeloVickers said:

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I really hated it. Loved the first two seasons and this season was totally mental and not fun or entertaining for me.

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I can understand it not being for everyone, but "hate"? Really?

Great season.

Obvious it was not for everyone. And that's ok too.

I got all of that. But yes, one more scene would've been good to wrap that story up.

TCTTS said:

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DeangeloVickers said:

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I really hated it. Loved the first two seasons and this season was totally mental and not fun or entertaining for me.

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I can understand it not being for everyone, but "hate"? Really?

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Okay, I'll agree hate is too strong. Disappointed is probably a better term
I am after all watching Longhorns punch ticket to Omaha.

Seeing whether he died or not.

I'll guess I'll just say that at that point it didn't matter to Barry or to the events of the show, so no need for us to find out.

Early today HBO posted a behind the scenes of the chase from two episodes ago

TCTTS said:

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I'll guess I'll just say that at that point it didn't matter to Barry or to the events of the show, so need for us to find out.

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I think that the style of show Barry has turned out to be, it would feel more out of place if we got the traditional resolution to their storyline. Right?
Which, to me, is part of the comedic part of that scene.

PatAg said:

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TCTTS said:

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I'll guess I'll just say that at that point it didn't matter to Barry or to the events of the show, so need for us to find out.

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I think that the style of show Barry has turned out to be, it would feel more out of place if we got the traditional resolution to their storyline. Right?
Which, to me, is part of the comedic part of that scene.

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Exactly.

Going to have to listen to the episode on spotify tomorrow, but I heard a blurb that Bill hader said they were writing season 4 during the pandemic as well. That they actually went back and altered stuff in Season 3 as well, so this was written with another season in mind...but I also got the impression that Bill didnt have any sort of grand plan or structure in mind for the show from the start.

Yes to both of those things. The writing on season four is already complete, which caused them to go back and tinker with parts of *this* season. And then yeah, one of the most interesting things from the Hader recaps on The Ringer each week is how they've basically been making it up as they go along. Hader might very well have an endgame in sight, but it sounds like the journey is just being invented as they go, with no big outline or anything.

Too early for predictions?

Surely season 4 doesn't turn into a show set in prison. So Barry escapes or is let off somehow. My guess is that since Barry got the gun from Gene it was a prop gun that couldn't fire real bullets. Gene stole it from a movie set a long time ago thinking it was real. Barry uses the story that he was really rehearsing a scene for acting with a prop gun. There isn't enough evidence tying him to the other murders so Barry is only charged with Breaking and Entering. Gene either is too scared to testify or backs Barry's story out of fear.

Sally really does have a daughter she abandoned in the real Joplin, MO when fleeing an abusive relationship.

Did anybody catch the joke at the beginning about the play for kids called F***-something number 9?

aTmAg said:

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Did anybody catch the joke at the beginning about the play for kids called F***-something number 9?

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Gene wanted to do the play she wrote titled Chrome **** # 9. The producer guy misheard the name as *** **** #9 where the first word is a three letter word that starts with C and ends in M. She said it what "Very experimental and written in the 70s"

I don't have any season 4 theories other than "The Raven" (Fuches) is already in jail and that is where Barry is headed for the time being. Hader is a genius with his writing though and he will find a way to make it work. Maybe Albert at the FBI level will take it a step further in his trying to fix Barry and get him out if he promises to give up his hitman career.

Quad Dog said:

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aTmAg said:

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Did anybody catch the joke at the beginning about the play for kids called F***-something number 9?

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Gene wanted to do the play she wrote titled Chrome **** # 9. The producer guy misheard the name as *** **** #9 where the first word is a three letter word that starts with C and ends in M. She said it what "Very experimental and written in the 70s"

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Oh.. no I heard it.. I was pointing out that it I thought was funny. There wasn't as much humor in this one as usual, but there were some.

I have a friend who found it 'meh.' He's very into tv/film and loves innovative stuff, etc. One of his main complaints continues to be that the show's format would thrive much more in 1 hour installments vs 30 minutes.

I personally loved the season and what Hader did/attempted with it.

All I have to say is Barry is the only show other than BCS that I watch live.

I wonder if Albert is able to do something in his position to screw up the investigation to help get Barry off, or flip him and turn him into a US asset.

TCTTS said:

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My only half-assed season four prediction, which will almost assuredly be wrong, is that, on the way to being booked at the police station, the police caravan is attacked by some kind of cartel involved in the situation, who either needs Barry for whatever reason, or don't want him to talk. Otherwise, yeah, the getting-out-of-jail thing is going to be complicated, but I trust Hader & co regardless. Especially since the season is already written.

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Aren't the Bolivians pretty much dead form Barry's bomb or back in Bolivia? And the Chechnyans are dead from the Bolivian raid or in Bolivia. What cartel is left?

What was in the next room that NoHo Hank killed?

Tiger?
Panther?
Lion?
Bear?

I think a lion

Quad Dog said:

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What was in the next room that NoHo Hank killed?

Tiger?
Panther?
Lion?
Bear?

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Hader said it was a panther.

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TCTTS said:

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My only half-assed season four prediction, which will almost assuredly be wrong, is that, on the way to being booked at the police station, the police caravan is attacked by some kind of cartel involved in the situation, who either needs Barry for whatever reason, or don't want him to talk. Otherwise, yeah, the getting-out-of-jail thing is going to be complicated, but I trust Hader & co regardless. Especially since the season is already written.

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Aren't the Bolivians pretty much dead form Barry's bomb or back in Bolivia? And the Chechnyans are dead from the Bolivian raid or in Bolivia. What cartel is left?

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Yes, as far as we know, everyone locally involved is dead, but who knows who else could be affected by this, or who else might be sent in from their respective countries, especially seeing as someone like Michael Ironside had a bit part from Chechnya (over FaceTime) that could be expanded. That, and for instance, in season two, we didn't know Cristobal had a wife, or hadn't been introduced to his father-in-law yet, so who knows what other or cartel relations/offshoots/rivals could be involved/affected by this/introduced in season four. Again, the chances of my half-assed prediction happening are next to none, just throwing it out as a possibility, as a way to potentially avoid the jail of it all.

Bunk Moreland said:

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I wonder if Albert is able to do something in his position to screw up the investigation to help get Barry off, or flip him and turn him into a US asset.

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Yea, I am leaning towards Albert getting more involved for Season 4. They (detective Dunn and other authorities) still don't know about the convo Fuches had with him in the interrogation room. Maybe Albert figures out a way to help Fuches and Barry put together a story that gets them off.

My guess is that Fuches has a change of heart and takes the fall for Barry.

I thought the gay conversion therapy model was hilarious, especially with the wife screaming at Cristobal in Spanish, and then when she tells the model to stop dancing, he immediately runs over to the piano to start playing.

That scene was F'ed up, but hilarious. You think Cristobal is brain damaged or just relieved when he sees Hank?

I see them running everything jointly, and Hank being more of a badass next season.

I could also see Fuches somehow ending up in the same prison as Barry and trying to manipulate him into killing people he manages to piss off in prison.