The problem is, they caught Barry in the act of attempted murder. He had a gun to daddy Moss' head. Granted, holding a gun to someone's head might not technically be considered attempted murder, but it was pretty obvious to everyone what Barry was about to do.
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Could likely be charged with attempted murder, as he arguably had the intent to kill Moss and took multiple direct steps to do so, culminating in putting the gun to his head. That he didn't get to pull the trigger is only relevant to Moss's hat size.TCTTS said:
The problem is, they caught Barry in the act of attempted murder. He had a gun to daddy Moss' head. Granted, holding a gun to someone's head might not technically be considered attempted murder, but it was pretty obvious to everyone what Barry was about to do.
Quad Dog said:
What was in the next room that NoHo Hank killed?
Tiger?
Panther?
Lion?
Bear?
I was thinking a Jaguar
I'm no lawyer (and I doubt the show will go into these sort of details), but there is no legal certainty that he was going to actually shoot. He could have been attempting robbery, etc. If he shot (even if he missed) then yeah, I think it would be attempted murder.TCTTS said:
The problem is, they caught Barry in the act of attempted murder. He had a gun to daddy Moss' head. Granted, holding a gun to someone's head might not technically be considered attempted murder, but it was pretty obvious to everyone what Barry was about to do.
That's funny because the half hour format is one of the things I love. Hour long shows tend to get bogged down in all kinds of things, the half hour makes this show get to things quickly without all the BS.
I've been fine with 30 minutes as well, though this season I felt his point way more than past seasons. I think he also binged up until this year so having to wait a week probably just annoyed him.
Finished season 2 yesterday (said a nobody to no one)
I'm going to catch up to this thread within a week
I'm going to catch up to this thread within a week
Seemed like common entrapment to me.
It wasn't. Entrapment is where they essentially force or coerce you to take an illegal action, not just provide an open opportunity.Teddy Perkins said:
Seemed like common entrapment to me.
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hbc07 said:It wasn't. Entrapment is where they essentially force or coerce you to take an illegal action, not just provide an open opportunity.Teddy Perkins said:
Seemed like common entrapment to me.
You don't think manipulating someone by threatening to kill yourself or another person would meet that?
I wasn't sure if Cousinea was talking about killing himself or killing Moss, so that's why I phrased it like that.
Providing the weapon could be a problem
I'll preface this by saying I haven't studied entrapment in a long time...
I can't remember the exact conversation, but if he told Barry he was going to kill himself unless Barry killed the dude, that could be getting closer.
They didn't provide Barry with the weapon. It wasn't offered to him, he took it by force from what I recall.
I can't remember the exact conversation, but if he told Barry he was going to kill himself unless Barry killed the dude, that could be getting closer.
They didn't provide Barry with the weapon. It wasn't offered to him, he took it by force from what I recall.
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The way this show works, an error in police procedural policy leading to a guy as dangerous and broken as Barry in getting set free makes a lot of sense.
Let's not forget Fuches has admitted to being the Raven. Hank and Christobal are no doubt headed back to LA, and Sally owes Barry a favor now. Not to mention Albert the FBI agent. The whole set up thing is ripe for a technicality to get Barry off. Lots of outs. I didn't think they had it in them to finally get Barry caught after all the close calls.
Favorite part of the episode: Hank kills Christobal's wife, then shoots the male stripper off camera. Followed by the sound of the stripper's body slumping into the piano keys. Genius.
Favorite part of the episode: Hank kills Christobal's wife, then shoots the male stripper off camera. Followed by the sound of the stripper's body slumping into the piano keys. Genius.
Yep, I could see something like that. I think Albert will intervene in some way, because I don't think they'd bring his character to the present day just for what we saw. Yes, it added intrigue about the authorities possibly being onto Barry. But you could've removed that part and still ended up with a satisfying way for Barry to get caught.RikkiTikkaTagem said:
The way this show works, an error in police procedural policy leading to a guy as dangerous and broken as Barry in getting set free makes a lot of sense.
I also think it plays into the tone of the show, where most of the characters who know who Barry really is seem to accept him for their own selfish reasons.
I was thinking of a more basic way out - Hank comes back, knows Barry can bury him if he talks, so he covers the lawyer to get him out on bail. Or in Barry fashion, Hankmdossnjt because he digs Barry and or needs help with another run at the Bolivians or some other group.
Then the season is a race to see who gets Barry first - all the people Fuchs sent after him, the justice system, or even Hank who could turn in him after getting him out.
Then the season is a race to see who gets Barry first - all the people Fuchs sent after him, the justice system, or even Hank who could turn in him after getting him out.
I understand how you feel about being disappointed. I've watched Barry because it's a good laugh and I love Bill Hader; other people are down for the transformational process of the show going darker and darker. That's not for me, unfortunately, not sure I'm going to keep watching. I can get depressed by real life, I got into Barry in order to laugh and take a break from my own problems.DeangeloVickers said:TCTTS said:DeangeloVickers said:
I really hated it. Loved the first two seasons and this season was totally mental and not fun or entertaining for me.
I can understand it not being for everyone, but "hate"? Really?
Okay, I'll agree hate is too strong. Disappointed is probably a better term
I am after all watching Longhorns punch ticket to Omaha.
That said, hope Fonzie gets an Emmy for his acting.
To me, the lengths they would have had to go to keep it light hearted would make the show die a slow horrible death. It would be like the sitcoms of the 80s where they had to end each episode in the same fundamental state as they started it so it would work in reruns. Where every episode was ended with a "whew.. that was CLOSE!!"
It would SUCK.
When the protagonist is a hit man, things are going to change over time. He may have to kill people he knows or innocent witnesses. There is no way to keep that from happening and keep the show from becoming lame as hell.
It would SUCK.
When the protagonist is a hit man, things are going to change over time. He may have to kill people he knows or innocent witnesses. There is no way to keep that from happening and keep the show from becoming lame as hell.
Yoda said:
Man, that was so intense. Realistic choking scenes are terrifying. Something about it really puts me in the place of the victim who is slowly coming to grips with what's happening, and that they won't escape. I don't even like her character, and that was rough. Are we supposed to know who the attacker was because I did not recognize him at all? Was he one of the dirt bike crew?
Small nitpick, you have to assume the pistol Barry took from Gene was empty. With his experience, stands to reason he would have either checked how many bullets were loaded or felt the difference in weight. Also, as an assassin, even if the cops knew Gene's gun was empty, they took a hell of a chance that Barry wouldn't be using a different weapon.
Like everyone, not sure where this goes now. So many people could go down if Barry starts talking, including his FBI friend who just let him go.
where did sally get the switchblade she plunged in the guys neck?
of course a MARINE, and an ASSASIN would check the loads on the pistol- especially in a setup situation like that!
honestly, the most intelligent and realistic part of the entire show was Sally getting on the plane to Joplin
the show does strike home that a seemingly offhanded decision can then reverberate years later
oragator said:
I was thinking of a more basic way out - Hank comes back, knows Barry can bury him if he talks, so he covers the lawyer to get him out on bail. Or in Barry fashion, Hankmdossnjt because he digs Barry and or needs help with another run at the Bolivians or some other group.
Then the season is a race to see who gets Barry first - all the people Fuchs sent after him, the justice system, or even Hank who could turn in him after getting him out.
so what the hell was happening at the house where Cristobal and Noho Hank were captured!?!?
RikkiTikkaTagem said:
The way this show works, an error in police procedural policy leading to a guy as dangerous and broken as Barry in getting set free makes a lot of sense.
how about ....
"leftist BLM District Attorney in Los Angeles frees Barry after being informed Barry is close friends with a latinx and two gay men"
A) Trying to ungay CristobalLMCane said:oragator said:
I was thinking of a more basic way out - Hank comes back, knows Barry can bury him if he talks, so he covers the lawyer to get him out on bail. Or in Barry fashion, Hankmdossnjt because he digs Barry and or needs help with another run at the Bolivians or some other group.
Then the season is a race to see who gets Barry first - all the people Fuchs sent after him, the justice system, or even Hank who could turn in him after getting him out.
so what the hell was happening at the house where Cristobal and Noho Hank were captured!?!?
B) Feeding panthers
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where did sally get the switchblade she plunged in the guys neck?
I thought it was the knife that Barry had in his hand when he burst into the room to find Sally there.
Presumably it was knocked out of his hand when the biker clobbered him.
aTmAg said:I'm no lawyer (and I doubt the show will go into these sort of details), but there is no legal certainty that he was going to actually shoot. He could have been attempting robbery, etc. If he shot (even if he missed) then yeah, I think it would be attempted murder.TCTTS said:
The problem is, they caught Barry in the act of attempted murder. He had a gun to daddy Moss' head. Granted, holding a gun to someone's head might not technically be considered attempted murder, but it was pretty obvious to everyone what Barry was about to do.
Uh, they have him for a LOT of prior crimes. not to mention felony burglary, breaking and entering, attempted murder..
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honestly, the most intelligent and realistic part of the entire show was Sally getting on the plane to Joplin
Are you kidding? There's no way in hell LAX has a direct to Joplin
Exact same thought.
Hell I don't think there is a direct flight from St Louis to Joplin
so we have to get scott baio to play barry's lawyer, right?aTmAg said:
What in the hell is next season going to be? His trial? I have no idea where they can go from here.
jackie childs said:so we have to get scott baio to play barry's lawyer, right?aTmAg said:
What in the hell is next season going to be? His trial? I have no idea where they can go from here.
Fonzie is FIFTEEN Years older than Chachi somehow.
Joanie loves Chachi, but does Chachi give a flying **** about Joanie?
If I recall from the early 1980s, America did not give a flying **** about either one of them once the spinoff started.Brian Earl Spilner said:
Joanie loves Chachi, but does Chachi give a flying **** about Joanie?
Also it went up against the ratings buzzsaw, according to Wikipedia:
The ratings plummeted in Season 2 with a move to Thursday nights, which put Joanie Loves Chachi up against The A-Team,
That is because we were all still wondering what happened to Chuck
I don't think there are any directs to Joplin. People only leave there.Duncan Idaho said:
Hell I don't think there is a direct flight from St Louis to Joplin
My god, the acting involved while NoHo Hank is listening to his men get slaughtered. That guy was amazing
Just looked it up out of curiosity. Joplin Regional Airport has two destinations - Denver and Chicago O'Hare. Until Covid, it also had service to DFW.
So whenever you're sitting around your house in Plano thinking "man, wish I could just hop on a plane and head straight to Joplin, Missouri", know that Covid is what ruined that dream for you.
So whenever you're sitting around your house in Plano thinking "man, wish I could just hop on a plane and head straight to Joplin, Missouri", know that Covid is what ruined that dream for you.
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