TCTTS said:
I just can't get over how disgusting and depressing the entire night was, from top to bottom.
Big Al 1992 said:
Yes - hypocrisy all around. That WS speech could not have seemed more disingenuous after what just took place. And how about just a couple years after "me too" you have an Oscar host feeling up a clearly embarrassed Josh Brolin and Jason Mamoa.
And perhaps almost as offensive was creating a song and dance number to the "in memoriam" segment (and leaving out Norm McD) - what the hell was that?
helloimustbegoing said:TCTTS said:
I just can't get over how disgusting and depressing the entire night was, from top to bottom.
You know I respect you, but man, let's gain some perspective and go to bed. On the other side of the world people were getting woken up by tank shells and artillery. One multimillionaire making an ass of himself while all of his myopic fellows clap because the prompter tells them to isn't exactly a sign of the end times.
TXCityAggie said:
I get that she has a medical condition but the joke was tame...certainly nothing to get that upset about. If Smith really wanted to defend his wife over that joke there were several other ways he could have gone about doing it. He knew he would be making an acceptance speech shortly...he could have addressed it then and probably come across sympathetic. Now he just looks like a lunatic.
Jada guest starred on an episode of The Equalizer recently - I didn't even recognize her, between her being bald and seemingly having some work done. Pretty sure I said to my wife how bad she looked. I had no idea she was fighting some sort of condition - I honestly wouldn't have made the comment.Boo Weekley said:TXCityAggie said:
I get that she has a medical condition but the joke was tame...certainly nothing to get that upset about. If Smith really wanted to defend his wife over that joke there were several other ways he could have gone about doing it. He knew he would be making an acceptance speech shortly...he could have addressed it then and probably come across sympathetic. Now he just looks like a lunatic.
Her having alopecia was news to me. That would infuriate me if my wife was struggling with hair loss and it was affecting her in a tough way and some other dude ragged on her…just being honest. In a setting like that I like to believe I would never do what WS did tho.
But do we know Chris Rock knows about her condition? To me it honestly always looked like she had a healthy head of hair but just shaved it because she was weird.
If he knew she was struggling with hair loss from a disease/condition, it's a pretty bad miscalculation to include that in the routine.
It's entirely possible that Chris Rock didn't know. I remember back when Elia Kazan was given the lifetime achievement award, Chris Rock was host and joked: "You better get Kazan away from De Niro, because, you know, he hates rats." (Because Kazan testified during the McCarthy hearings). But De Niro himself was the one who presented the award, because he loved the guy. If he knew that, I doubt he would have made the joke.Boo Weekley said:TXCityAggie said:
I get that she has a medical condition but the joke was tame...certainly nothing to get that upset about. If Smith really wanted to defend his wife over that joke there were several other ways he could have gone about doing it. He knew he would be making an acceptance speech shortly...he could have addressed it then and probably come across sympathetic. Now he just looks like a lunatic.
Her having alopecia was news to me. That would infuriate me if my wife was struggling with hair loss and it was affecting her in a tough way and some other dude ragged on her…just being honest. In a setting like that I like to believe I would never do what WS did tho.
But do we know Chris Rock knows about her condition? To me it honestly always looked like she had a healthy head of hair but just shaved it because she was weird.
If he knew she was struggling with hair loss from a disease/condition, it's a pretty bad miscalculation to include that in the routine.
"Essentially saying" is doing a whole lot of work there. LOLTCTTS said:
She's a black woman essentially saying that right as the Oscars were starting to embrace diversity, expand their membership to include more black members, and hire a black producer to run the show, all in response to the whole #OscarsSoWhite thing, one of the most famous black men on the planet assaulted another black man onstage, thereby setting back all the progress she felt had been made. She then talks about how many years Smith has spent trying to rehabilitate his image, in the wake off all his box office bombs, how he used Instagram to help do that, and then how stupid it was to destroy all of that goodwill literally minutes before reaching the top of the mountain again. And then she goes off on him again for doubling down in his acceptance speech.
this is how I see it. Trying to overcorrect for being considered a "****" by many.AggieArchitect04 said:
Is anyone else just seeing this as Will Smith being insecure because people are talking about him and JPS and her screwing around on him.
Like he seems SUPER sensitive to it.
Brian Earl Spilner said:
I noticed they never showed Jada on screen after the slap or when Will was yelling. I wonder if that was purposeful. Really curious to see how she reacted to it.
Chris Rock did a documentary in 2009 called "Good Hair" where he sort of investigates black women's issues with hair. It makes me think he's a least a little sensitive to issues related to that. I sort of think that maybe he didn't know, he made the comment off the cuff not really thinking about it, or he has an axe to grind with the Smiths. Judging from his reaction, I'd bet it was one of the first two.aTmAg said:It's entirely possible that Chris Rock didn't know. I remember back when Elia Kazan was given the lifetime achievement award, Chris Rock was host and joked: "You better get Kazan away from De Niro, because, you know, he hates rats." (Because Kazan testified during the McCarthy hearings). But De Niro himself was the one who presented the award, because he loved the guy. If he knew that, I doubt he would have made the joke.Boo Weekley said:TXCityAggie said:
I get that she has a medical condition but the joke was tame...certainly nothing to get that upset about. If Smith really wanted to defend his wife over that joke there were several other ways he could have gone about doing it. He knew he would be making an acceptance speech shortly...he could have addressed it then and probably come across sympathetic. Now he just looks like a lunatic.
Her having alopecia was news to me. That would infuriate me if my wife was struggling with hair loss and it was affecting her in a tough way and some other dude ragged on her…just being honest. In a setting like that I like to believe I would never do what WS did tho.
But do we know Chris Rock knows about her condition? To me it honestly always looked like she had a healthy head of hair but just shaved it because she was weird.
If he knew she was struggling with hair loss from a disease/condition, it's a pretty bad miscalculation to include that in the routine.
Thanks for letting us know.Iraq2xVeteran said:
The Oscars was scheduled to end at 10:00, but it dint end until 10:42. These award shows always end well past scheduled time. I didn't tune in to the Oscars until 9:00 because I was watching Fox animation shows: Simpsons, The Great North, Bob's Burger, and Family Guy.
I love Norm but why on earth would you expect him to be honored at the Academy Awards? If the Emmy's snubbed him I'd be upset as he is most famous for work on TV.Big Al 1992 said:
Yes - hypocrisy all around. That WS speech could not have seemed more disingenuous after what just took place. And how about just a couple years after "me too" you have an Oscar host feeling up a clearly embarrassed Josh Brolin and Jason Mamoa.
And perhaps almost as offensive was creating a song and dance number to the "in memoriam" segment (and leaving out Norm McD) - what the hell was that?
cajunaggie08 said:I love Norm but why on earth would you expect him to be honored at the Academy Awards? If the Emmy's snubbed him I'd be upset as he is most famous for work on TV.Big Al 1992 said:
Yes - hypocrisy all around. That WS speech could not have seemed more disingenuous after what just took place. And how about just a couple years after "me too" you have an Oscar host feeling up a clearly embarrassed Josh Brolin and Jason Mamoa.
And perhaps almost as offensive was creating a song and dance number to the "in memoriam" segment (and leaving out Norm McD) - what the hell was that?
I watched Dirty Work many times with my dad when I was 12. Great movie.tk for tu juan said:cajunaggie08 said:I love Norm but why on earth would you expect him to be honored at the Academy Awards? If the Emmy's snubbed him I'd be upset as he is most famous for work on TV.Big Al 1992 said:
Yes - hypocrisy all around. That WS speech could not have seemed more disingenuous after what just took place. And how about just a couple years after "me too" you have an Oscar host feeling up a clearly embarrassed Josh Brolin and Jason Mamoa.
And perhaps almost as offensive was creating a song and dance number to the "in memoriam" segment (and leaving out Norm McD) - what the hell was that?
Found someone who hasn't watched Dirty Work
Forget that noise. Jada is just a crappy person. Yeah, I'm sure it stinks to lose your hair, but in the long list of terrible things life can throw at you, I don't think Alopecia makes my top 25. She is strutting around acting like she is some kind of hero. Nah. If you can't handle the negativity with grace, then do what normal people do and strap on a wig. Otherwise, roll with it.Boo Weekley said:
I am not defending him, but it would be tough for any female to lose her hair. Especially a vain Hollywood type who has always been considered to be beautiful by just about everyone. He has probably seen and felt up close and personal how hard it has been on her. That being said, it's inexcusable and something that should have been handled with harsh words off camera.
AggieArchitect04 said:
Is anyone else just seeing this as Will Smith being insecure because people are talking about him and JPS and her screwing around on him.
Like he seems SUPER sensitive to it.
BEaggie08 said:
Let me help you Jada - in response to Chris Rock's very tame joke you stand up, smile and flex. Disaster averted.
True...i agree 100%. Just theorizing and trying to put myself in his shoes. If my wife was losing her hair, it would be extremely hard on her and would be a pretty tough issue in our household at times...if one can't understand that, then they just don't understand women. Hell, it's hard for a lot of men to lose their hair....and it is supposed to happen to men. If a buddy of mine joked about my wife losing her hair, i'd tell them to shut their f-ing mouth. That being said, (a) Nothing excuses what WS did, (b) It's possible that Chris Rock (like most of us) just thought she shaved her head, (c) I have a hard time drumming up any sympathy for JPS, and (d) I get the sense Will Smith is a wreck and that his marriage is probably in shambles and that he was unpacking a lot more than just frustration from a hair joke there...still doesn't excuse that type of behavior.BEaggie08 said:Forget that noise. Jada is just a crappy person. Yeah, I'm sure it stinks to lose your hair, but in the long list of terrible things life can throw at you, I don't think Alopecia makes my top 25. She is strutting around acting like she is some kind of hero. Nah. If you can't handle the negativity with grace, then do what normal people do and strap on a wig. Otherwise, roll with it.Boo Weekley said:
I am not defending him, but it would be tough for any female to lose her hair. Especially a vain Hollywood type who has always been considered to be beautiful by just about everyone. He has probably seen and felt up close and personal how hard it has been on her. That being said, it's inexcusable and something that should have been handled with harsh words off camera.
Let me help you Jada - in response to Chris Rock's very tame joke you stand up, smile and flex. Disaster averted.
JB said:
Elaborate hoax. Truth come out April Fools Day. A video of them rehearsing the stunt. Book it.
So Will Smith went along with this elaborate hoax and tarnished what was undoubtedly a highlight of his career....for what exactly?JB said:
Elaborate hoax. Truth come out April Fools Day. A video of them rehearsing the stunt. Book it.
Lovely posing here pic.twitter.com/QoX0HIHDt2
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