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BassCowboy33
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Finally got around to seeing it. I don't know what I expected, but it wasn't that. What a fun movie.

I was surprised and a huge fan. Obviously, Gosling stole the show. I think anyone who has ever had a crush on a girl relates to the lengths he goes to to try to impress a girl (even if he lacks the know-how to do so). The whole Matchbox Twenty and Pearl Jam moment is something straight out of my youth and probably got the biggest laughs in the film.

I know there are some people who complain about it being anti-men, but I didn't see it like that. This to me felt like a guy just wanting to be noticed by a girl he would do anything for, and she just continuously shrugs him aside despite his "anywhere else I'd be a 10" looks.

I know this film probably won't get Oscar noms other than some technical ones, maybe, but I'd LOVE to see "I'm just Ken" get an original song nom just so I can see that performed at the Oscars, lol.

As for Barbie, I thought she was great, but, surprisingly, her story felt a bit more disjointed. Maybe because I'm a dude? I don't know. When it missed, it really missed (some awkward silences in the theater). But when it hit, it REALLY hit. Robbie was solid. I don't know how much she could do with that character, because the Kens had all the best lines and scenes.

Overall, probably an A film. I imagine we're going to see a lot of Kens at Halloween this year, lol.

Edit to add the greatness that is the Mojo Dojo Casa House.
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Bunk Moreland said:

Saw it earlier. It was fine. Not the greatest movie ever but watchable, had funny moments and Robbie is super hot.

Nothing in the movie was that bad or shamelessly political. The themes of the movie that triggered conservatives are way overblown imo and they're also dripping with some layers of sarcasm. It very much fit the mold of what you'd expect for a movie designed for women and based on barbie.


I actually felt it did a good job of showing the lengths a guy will go to get a woman's attention (plus all the things guys think women care about but they don't).
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I saw it last night. I second most of above. It was fun for me and it hit my wife pretty hard. Some real tears. Not great but a really good, fun movie.
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MBAR said:

stallion6 said:

I just don't understand why any man would want to go see a movie based upon a girls doll. I have not seen it and it may be a great movie but I just don't understand what would make a man buy a ticket.
Some of y'all have such sad and fragile visions of your masculinity.


Masculine men in general aren't lining up to voluntarily see this movie. They're not itching to see it on their own. Beanie wearing hipsters and artsy fartsy types are much more likely to be amped about a Barbie movie than your avg roofer, rig worker, etc.

This movie is not at all targeted at masculine men.
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Brittmoore Car Club said:

MBAR said:

stallion6 said:

I just don't understand why any man would want to go see a movie based upon a girls doll. I have not seen it and it may be a great movie but I just don't understand what would make a man buy a ticket.
Some of y'all have such sad and fragile visions of your masculinity.


Masculine men in general aren't lining up to voluntarily see this movie. They're not itching to see it on their own. Beanie wearing hipsters and artsy fartsy types are much more likely to be amped about a Barbie movie than your avg roofer, rig worker, etc.

This movie is not at all targeted at masculine men.


What did you say your profession was again?
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Brittmoore Car Club said:

MBAR said:

stallion6 said:

I just don't understand why any man would want to go see a movie based upon a girls doll. I have not seen it and it may be a great movie but I just don't understand what would make a man buy a ticket.
Some of y'all have such sad and fragile visions of your masculinity.


Masculine men in general aren't lining up to voluntarily see this movie. They're not itching to see it on their own. Beanie wearing hipsters and artsy fartsy types are much more likely to be amped about a Barbie movie than your avg roofer, rig worker, etc.

This movie is not at all targeted at masculine men.
Nothing more manly than calling yourself a masculine man.
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Someone with 50 posts on a Barbie thread shouldn't be calling out others about their masculinity.
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MBAR said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

MBAR said:

stallion6 said:

I just don't understand why any man would want to go see a movie based upon a girls doll. I have not seen it and it may be a great movie but I just don't understand what would make a man buy a ticket.
Some of y'all have such sad and fragile visions of your masculinity.


Masculine men in general aren't lining up to voluntarily see this movie. They're not itching to see it on their own. Beanie wearing hipsters and artsy fartsy types are much more likely to be amped about a Barbie movie than your avg roofer, rig worker, etc.

This movie is not at all targeted at masculine men.
Nothing more manly than calling yourself a masculine man.


Not calling myself one, although I certainly am. Masculine men aren't itching to see the latest Barbie movie, plain and simple. Quite a few are being dragged to it by their daughters or wives, and some may have even enjoyed it…but to be drawn to this movie…to be giddy in anticipation for weeks/months for its release…that's not very masculine imo.
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nai06 said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

MBAR said:

stallion6 said:

I just don't understand why any man would want to go see a movie based upon a girls doll. I have not seen it and it may be a great movie but I just don't understand what would make a man buy a ticket.
Some of y'all have such sad and fragile visions of your masculinity.


Masculine men in general aren't lining up to voluntarily see this movie. They're not itching to see it on their own. Beanie wearing hipsters and artsy fartsy types are much more likely to be amped about a Barbie movie than your avg roofer, rig worker, etc.

This movie is not at all targeted at masculine men.


What did you say your profession was again?


This kind of sh** on Texags kind of creeps me out.
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Brittmoore Car Club said:

nai06 said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

MBAR said:

stallion6 said:

I just don't understand why any man would want to go see a movie based upon a girls doll. I have not seen it and it may be a great movie but I just don't understand what would make a man buy a ticket.
Some of y'all have such sad and fragile visions of your masculinity.


Masculine men in general aren't lining up to voluntarily see this movie. They're not itching to see it on their own. Beanie wearing hipsters and artsy fartsy types are much more likely to be amped about a Barbie movie than your avg roofer, rig worker, etc.

This movie is not at all targeted at masculine men.


What did you say your profession was again?


This kind of sh** on Texags kind of creeps me out.


Oh I have no idea if you've ever said what you do for a living. But when you are talking about masculine men and their professions then list roofer and rig worker, it just makes me wonder what you actually do. I'd guess it probably isn't considered a very masculine role.


Not that there is typically anything wrong with that. Your job along with going to see a movie don't define your masculinity.

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Brittmoore Car Club said:

MBAR said:

stallion6 said:

I just don't understand why any man would want to go see a movie based upon a girls doll. I have not seen it and it may be a great movie but I just don't understand what would make a man buy a ticket.
Some of y'all have such sad and fragile visions of your masculinity.


Masculine men in general aren't lining up to voluntarily see this movie. They're not itching to see it on their own. Beanie wearing hipsters and artsy fartsy types are much more likely to be amped about a Barbie movie than your avg roofer, rig worker, etc.

This movie is not at all targeted at masculine men.


From my time playing college football and serving in the military, I've found that people who thump their chest about masculinity are usually the least masculine. Real masculinity is going to see Barbie by yourself in a pink shirt and giving zero effs about it.
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Brittmoore Car Club said:

MBAR said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

MBAR said:

stallion6 said:

I just don't understand why any man would want to go see a movie based upon a girls doll. I have not seen it and it may be a great movie but I just don't understand what would make a man buy a ticket.
Some of y'all have such sad and fragile visions of your masculinity.


Masculine men in general aren't lining up to voluntarily see this movie. They're not itching to see it on their own. Beanie wearing hipsters and artsy fartsy types are much more likely to be amped about a Barbie movie than your avg roofer, rig worker, etc.

This movie is not at all targeted at masculine men.
Nothing more manly than calling yourself a masculine man.


Not calling myself one, although I certainly am. Masculine men aren't itching to see the latest Barbie movie, plain and simple. Quite a few are being dragged to it by their daughters or wives, and some may have even enjoyed it…but to be drawn to this movie…to be giddy in anticipation for weeks/months for its release…that's not very masculine imo.


Uh-huh
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Haven't read the thread but went and saw it with the wife today. I enjoyed it.

It's clearly resonating with women on another level though. Tons of ladies in pink at the theater.
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Some of the jokes were funny. There was definitely a little humor both ways on the patriarchy stuff.

But they hit it a little too hard honestly and the 5 min speeches on the difficulties of womanhood were a little obnoxious.

Plot was pretty weak and doubt I'll ever watch it again. But it was fine. Men aren't really the target audience.
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Movie was good. Gosling was hilarious

Was a bit too long, but otherwise enjoyable
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BoydCrowder13 said:

Some of the jokes were funny. There was definitely a little humor both ways on the patriarchy stuff.

But they hit it a little too hard honestly and the 5 min speeches on the difficulties of womanhood were a little obnoxious.

Plot was pretty weak and doubt I'll ever watch it again. But it was fine. Men aren't really the target audience.


So do you not think women face the things mentioned?
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Macarthur said:

BoydCrowder13 said:

Some of the jokes were funny. There was definitely a little humor both ways on the patriarchy stuff.

But they hit it a little too hard honestly and the 5 min speeches on the difficulties of womanhood were a little obnoxious.

Plot was pretty weak and doubt I'll ever watch it again. But it was fine. Men aren't really the target audience.


So do you not think women face the things mentioned?


Womens' ever increasing rates of depression, mental illness and suicide have nothing to do with men or the "patriarchy". Quite the opposite actually. Does the movie address how they are by far their greatest enemy?
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Has nothing to do with it? It's just mean girls? That's all, huh?
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BassCowboy33 said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

MBAR said:

stallion6 said:

I just don't understand why any man would want to go see a movie based upon a girls doll. I have not seen it and it may be a great movie but I just don't understand what would make a man buy a ticket.
Some of y'all have such sad and fragile visions of your masculinity.


Masculine men in general aren't lining up to voluntarily see this movie. They're not itching to see it on their own. Beanie wearing hipsters and artsy fartsy types are much more likely to be amped about a Barbie movie than your avg roofer, rig worker, etc.

This movie is not at all targeted at masculine men.


From my time playing college football and serving in the military, I've found that people who thump their chest about masculinity are usually the least masculine. Real masculinity is going to see Barbie by yourself in a pink shirt and giving zero effs about it.


Lol, my only point in bringing up construction guys and rig workers was to make the point that none of those guys are giddy about going to see a Barbie movie. This movie obviously isn't for them.

And it was in response to people calling others out for not being secure in their manhood or something.
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BassCowboy33 said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

MBAR said:

stallion6 said:

I just don't understand why any man would want to go see a movie based upon a girls doll. I have not seen it and it may be a great movie but I just don't understand what would make a man buy a ticket.
Some of y'all have such sad and fragile visions of your masculinity.


Masculine men in general aren't lining up to voluntarily see this movie. They're not itching to see it on their own. Beanie wearing hipsters and artsy fartsy types are much more likely to be amped about a Barbie movie than your avg roofer, rig worker, etc.

This movie is not at all targeted at masculine men.


From my time playing college football and serving in the military, I've found that people who thump their chest about masculinity are usually the least masculine. Real masculinity is going to see Barbie by yourself in a pink shirt and giving zero effs about it.

I'm not taking the side of the poster you responded to, and I would see this movie with my gf if she really wanted to, but this weird redefining of masculinity that some guys have bought into over the last decade or so has been a real head scratcher for me. Not calling you a ***** directly, but no, wearing a pink shirt to see the Barbie movie by yourself is not "real masculinity" lol. Again, I'm not claiming that refusing to see it or ****ting on those that do is "real masculinity" either, just that doing obviously feminine things isn't masculine just because you don't care what people think about it. I'm waiting for the day someone says "I'm so masculine that I sucked a dick and give zero effs what anyone thinks about it".

Sorry for the derail, though I don't think I'm capable of making this thread worse.
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BassCowboy33 said:

Real masculinity is going to see Barbie by yourself in a pink shirt and giving zero effs about it.

Do it if you want, but this statement is objectively false.
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Not to get off the subject too much but I think there is a bigger issue here that I find fascinating.

Before that, to your point, if I were single, I prob would have waited to stream it, and even then, it prob wouldn't have been a high priority. But I liked it.

As gender has been a topic the last few years, I've read some real interesting stuff about how we view gender and it's place in history.

For example, why and when did we arbitrarily assign blue to boys and pink to girls? Seriously, what does that even mean. We have deemed pants manly and skirts womanly, when history actually has very different examples that this is flimsy and arbitrary. There are many of these types of things that our modern world has slotted into categories that really are invented or just a product of our small slice of time and culture.
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P.H. Dexippus said:

BassCowboy33 said:

Real masculinity is going to see Barbie by yourself in a pink shirt and giving zero effs about it.

Do it if you want, but this statement is objectively false.



To my post above. Why is it false? And more importantly, how to do deem it objectively false?
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To jump on this, when people make statements like "the founding fathers would be rolling in their graves" when something girly is being done, it always makes me laugh. Not to knock the founding fathers, but it was manly back then to wear a wig, makeup, and heels. Masculinity is a moving target.

Which is basically the point of the movie, just with femininity. Love yourself, do what you enjoy, and don't worry about whether something is feminine enough.
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Definitely Not A Cop said:

To jump on this, when people make statements like "the founding fathers would be rolling in their graves" when something girly is being done, it always makes me laugh. Not to knock the founding fathers, but it was manly back then to wear a wig, makeup, and heels. Masculinity is a moving target.

Which is basically the point of the movie, just with femininity. Love yourself, do what you enjoy, and don't worry about whether something is feminine enough.
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Macarthur said:

P.H. Dexippus said:

BassCowboy33 said:

Real masculinity is going to see Barbie by yourself in a pink shirt and giving zero effs about it.

Do it if you want, but this statement is objectively false.



To my post above. Why is it false? And more importantly, how to do deem it objectively false?

Barbies are toys made for girls. Girls are not the only ones that play with them, but they are girl toys. And this is not just because Mattel or society arbitrarily decided Barbies should be for girls. Despite many people's wishes, humans innately & consistently show a predisposition to toys based on their sex from a very very young age. Googling this will result in a plethora of studies. This movie is about an object that females are naturally more interested in. If that doesn't make it a feminine movie to you then I'm not sure what to tell you.

I don't think wearing a pink shirt is all that feminine. I wore one this past Friday, as I think the color looks good on me. What I would consider feminine is dressing up to go see this feminine movie, and going alone. And that is fine. It doesn't make you a feminine guy in general, but these aren't masculine actions. At the end of the day I don't care if other people see it and dress up for it, I was just responding to a comment claiming it's masculine to do those things.

And again, I would see this movie. I don't have much desire to, but that's not just out of a place of it automatically being too girly, it just doesn't interest me much.
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Ghost of Bisbee said:

Movie was good. Gosling was hilarious

Was a bit too long, but otherwise enjoyable


Parts of the final act definitely fell a bit flat and were unnecessary.
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Aggie_Boomin 21 said:

Macarthur said:

P.H. Dexippus said:

BassCowboy33 said:

Real masculinity is going to see Barbie by yourself in a pink shirt and giving zero effs about it.

Do it if you want, but this statement is objectively false.



To my post above. Why is it false? And more importantly, how to do deem it objectively false?

Barbies are toys made for girls. Girls are not the only ones that play with them, but they are girl toys. And this is not just because Mattel or society arbitrarily decided Barbies should be for girls. Despite many people's wishes, humans innately & consistently show a predisposition to toys based on their sex from a very very young age. Googling this will result in a plethora of studies. This movie is about an object that females are naturally more interested in. If that doesn't make it a feminine movie to you then I'm not sure what to tell you.

I don't think wearing a pink shirt is all that feminine. I wore one this past Friday, as I think the color looks good on me. What I would consider feminine is dressing up to go see this feminine movie, and going alone. And that is fine. It doesn't make you a feminine guy in general, but these aren't masculine actions. At the end of the day I don't care if other people see it and dress up for it, I was just responding to a comment claiming it's masculine to do those things.

And again, I would see this movie. I don't have much desire to, but that's not just out of a place of it automatically being too girly, it just doesn't interest me much.

I don't really disagree with the points you make here, but I also don't think they reflect or support your above comment about wearing a pink shirt to this show makes you 'objectively' less masculine.
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Haven't gotten to see it yet, but due to the subject of the film was curious to do a quick scan to see if the usual suspects were in action with their contrarian opinions on this thread. Shockingly, they are.
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Saw this with the wifey over the weekend. It was pretty good! I was very concerned at the beginning when they kept hammering the "Beach Off" joke, but thankfully it elevated quickly after that lol. Made us both tear up a couple times (and obviously laugh). Margot and Ryan were revelations. Not sure who "won" the movie, but it's baffling to me that they made a movie about a BARBIE and KEN doll and the actors of those roles might have legit oscar cases...lol like, it's wild to me to even type that sentence. I thought the 'angsty teenager' stereotype was lazy and the movie had pacing issues, but overall it was very well done and honestly the crisp 2hr run time was perfect.

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Macarthur said:

Aggie_Boomin 21 said:

Macarthur said:

P.H. Dexippus said:

BassCowboy33 said:

Real masculinity is going to see Barbie by yourself in a pink shirt and giving zero effs about it.

Do it if you want, but this statement is objectively false.



To my post above. Why is it false? And more importantly, how to do deem it objectively false?

Barbies are toys made for girls. Girls are not the only ones that play with them, but they are girl toys. And this is not just because Mattel or society arbitrarily decided Barbies should be for girls. Despite many people's wishes, humans innately & consistently show a predisposition to toys based on their sex from a very very young age. Googling this will result in a plethora of studies. This movie is about an object that females are naturally more interested in. If that doesn't make it a feminine movie to you then I'm not sure what to tell you.

I don't think wearing a pink shirt is all that feminine. I wore one this past Friday, as I think the color looks good on me. What I would consider feminine is dressing up to go see this feminine movie, and going alone. And that is fine. It doesn't make you a feminine guy in general, but these aren't masculine actions. At the end of the day I don't care if other people see it and dress up for it, I was just responding to a comment claiming it's masculine to do those things.

And again, I would see this movie. I don't have much desire to, but that's not just out of a place of it automatically being too girly, it just doesn't interest me much.

I don't really disagree with the points you make here, but I also don't think they reflect or support your above comment about wearing a pink shirt to this show makes you 'objectively' less masculine.

I believe you're referencing another poster as i didn't use those words, and while I don't want to speak for him or her, they didn't say wearing pink to the movie makes you objectively less masculine. They might believe that, but their post disagreed with the claim (as mine have as well) that wearing a pink shirt to go see Barbie alone is "real masculinity".

Also my entire second paragraph of the post you responded to explains that I think dressing up to go see a feminine movie is not masculine.
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I saw the movie last night. While the nostalgia for those of us who grew up with Barbies was fun, I left feeling surprised it has done as well as it has financially. I think the movie took itself way too seriously at the end. I think Margot Robbie and Ryan Gosling did a great job with what they had, but I would never consider it Oscar worthy.
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85aggie777 said:

I saw the movie last night. While the nostalgia for those of us who grew up with Barbies was fun, I left feeling surprised it has done as well as it has financially. I think the movie took itself way too seriously at the end. I think Margot Robbie and Ryan Gosling did a great job with what they had, but I would never consider it Oscar worthy.


Ironically, I felt the female characters were pretty poorly dialogued. Issa Rae's character was pointless. Robbie was ok with what she had to work with, but nothing in her performance leaped out at me. Gosling, on the other hand, was frickin' hilarious.
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I watched a movie about a doll line from my childhood and I regret every second I wasted my life on it. I'll probably end up watching Barbi at some point cause I have daughters but not today my friends. Not today.

 
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