Bruce Almighty said:

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86 vs 91
81 vs 93

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86/91 is the doozy. I briefly thought about separating them, but it felt cheap to do so. 91's Top 2 - Silence of the Lambs and Terminator 2 - are probably my favorite1-2 punch in the whole tournament.

Damn, I was getting mad at myself having to vote against years that included all time favorites like Raiders and Back to the Future.

A lot of real Sophie's Choice scenarios, but to be clear, I will not be voting for a year that includes the actual film "Sophie's Choice".

Bruce Almighty said:

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86 vs 91
81 vs 93

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86 vs 91 hurt to vote for.

Bruce Almighty said:

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86 vs 91
81 vs 93

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Yep I have all kinds of questions about seeding! Yesterday I had to give very little thought, today I went back and forth on almost every one.

jkag89 said:

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Bruce Almighty said:

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86 vs 91
81 vs 93

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Yep I have all kinds of questions about seeding! Yesterday I had to give very little thought, today I went back and forth on almost every one.

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It's the average IMDB score of the Best Picture winner, the box office champ, and the next 8 movies with the highest IMDB ratings. Divided by 10. In the event where more than one year had the same average rating (which happened frequently), the higher seed went to the year with the highest individually ranked movie.


The entire tournament ranged between 7.50-8.11 for their yearly averages, so it's a very small window. For instance, there were 21 years in the range of 7.72-7.82, so an extremely narrow margin of space between being a #8 seed and a #13 seed.

Same was true near the top, there were 14 years between 7.88-7.98, which is the difference between a 3 seed and a 6 seed.

A lot of "favorite" movies, particularly from the 1980s, seem to wind up in the low 7's on IMDB, which really brings down the year. A few box office champions, like Spider-Man 3 do the same. I think Spider-Man 3 has a 6.3 ranking on IMDB. So even if you have a movie that's an 8.5, which is super high, those two average out to 7.45, which is at the bottom of the rankings.

A lot of years are top heavy, with 1-2 really great titles and also have really great reviews, but a lot of their more popular movies are rated in the low 7s and that brings them down.

1980 is a good example of this. Empire, The Shining, the Elephant Man, and Raging Bull are all rated greater than 8.0, but movies like Caddy Shack and The Gods Must Be Crazy, both awesome, are not as well thought of on IMDB. Their scores in the low 7's range, brings 1980 down to a 7.78 and makes it a 10th seed. If it was 0.1 points higher, it would be a 6th seed.

Hope that helps!

Yep, I know the blowback from the '70s, Christmas & WWII movies tournaments I did. No matter what you do you can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself.

Tough seeding for 85.

some years I find myself wanting to vote for based on just one movie (something in my top 10)....I have to check myself and look at the whole year

Requiem for a Dream is not a 1991 movie, unless there's another name with the same title?

Thank you. I'm at a loss of how it got in there. I've subbed it out For the Fisher King, which has a similar rating.

We did something similar a few years back. Was it best movie?

There's been some complaining about 1939, but I looked at the top 10 movies of the year, and I've seen 3 of them. I'm guessing 90% of the posters that voted have seen less than half as well. You can count on one hand the years that could match the 1-2 punch of Gone With The Wind and Wizard Of Oz, but 1939 had no chance of winning and likely was not going to make it out of the first round if it was matched up against almost any year from the late 70s to early 2000s when most of the voters were kids.

Lots more people voting today, which is great. Took us until 3 p.m. yesterday to get to 60 votes. Already at 50 today and it's not even noon.

Same as yesterday, 8 lower seed are winning at this point, although several matchup are much closer than Thursday. Only 2 entries are above 90% at this point.

Today I was forced to vote against some great 1992 movies due to ESB and Shining, two of my all time favorites. Very top heavy year in 1980 though.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Mr. White said:

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We did something similar a few years back. Was it best movie?

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Yep. Empire Strikes Back was officially crowned TA's favorite movie.

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No surprise at all.

Good choice.

MW03 said:

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For some of the harder matchups, I've gone with the mindset of "Which year has the movies that I couldn't stand never watching again?"

In that matchup, I then take '89 because of Last Crusade and Field of Dreams.

For me it was easy 2001.

FOTR and Ocean's 11 are endlessly rewatchable, and Donnie Darko was also one of my favorite movies as a teen.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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For me it was easy 2001.

FOTR and Ocean's 11 are endlessly rewatchable, and Donnie Darko was also one of my favorite movies as a teen.

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I think we're also seeing a very clear delineation of age ranges, and it's really reflective in several of the matchups featuring movies from the 1980s, which makes me think more posters on the board are in their mid to late 40s and into their 50s than in their 30s (or younger)

I can't remember exactly how old you are, other than you were in high school the year of Matrix and TPM, so presumably a teenager still in 2001, so that makes a ton of sense. Those 2 movies are so very cool and so very different from anything you'd seen before.

I was 15 in 1989, and here's Field of Dreams, about my favorite sport, and Indy 3, my 2nd favorite franchise, and both are about fathers and sons at a time when I was only seeing 2 out of every 5 months because he worked on an oil tanker.

I turned 13 in 2001, so a bit younger than that, but 97-03 was pretty much the peak of cinema for me growing up.

But as a young kid, my movie watching skewed way more towards the Gen X side of things, so I have a lot of love for those 80s years too. It sucked having to vote against 1985 right off the bat, as I love BTTF, Teen Wolf, and Breakfast Club.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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I turned 13 in 2001,

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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I turned 13 in 2001, so a bit younger than that, but 97-03 was pretty much the peak of cinema for me growing up.

But as a young kid, my movie watching skewed way more towards the Gen X side of things, so I have a lot of love for those 80s years too. It sucked having to vote against 1985 right off the bat, as I love BTTF, Teen Wolf, and Breakfast Club.

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This shows that those years when you are an early teen are really the most memorable for most folks. 97-03 was a pretty good era for movies. For me, I turned 10 in 77 - it is the years 77 - 84 that I look back on the most, which encompasses 5th to 12th grade for me. There have been plenty of really great movies to come out since then, and even one of them cracked my top 4 (Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade), but the other 3 of that 4 come from 79-81.

You are considerably younger than my actual father.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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You are considerably younger than my actual father.

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Yes, I would have had to be a much more socially confident 14 year old than I was to have a son your age.

You're pretty much smack dab in the middle of my youngest aunt, and my oldest cousin.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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You're pretty much smack dab in the middle of my youngest aunt, and my oldest cousin.

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The funny thing is that, in my mind, you, Porkchop, and ZJS are all the same person. It's like the movie Split.

And to make everyone else angry, there are 11 (and possibly 12) movies listed in the 2001 vs. 1989 matchup that are better than The Empire Strikes Back.

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Perfect gifs always get blue stars from me.

MW03 said:

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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You're pretty much smack dab in the middle of my youngest aunt, and my oldest cousin.

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The funny thing is that, in my mind, you, Porkchop, and ZJS are all the same person. It's like the movie Split.

And to make everyone else angry, there are 11 (and possibly 12) movies listed in the 2001 vs. 1989 matchup that are better than The Empire Strikes Back.

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I will say that Tangled is better than all the movies except maybe The Social Network on the 2010 list.

There's one race separated by 2 votes, which given my knowledge of this board, is the most TexAgs thing ever. I'll have to explain after.

Monday the results and new bracket will be posted somewhat early as my dad and I are going to get stuck in traffic for 13 hours to see the eclipse.