I will not justify anything to somebody in the muh feelz camp.

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Ag CPA said:

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Who cares, F him.

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Just wait until they do it to your candidate!

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Tara Reade accused Biden, but of course Dems swept it under the rug. "Believe all women", except her.

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When you lie under oath, people tend not to believe you. Go figure.

Which wife? Wimmenz be throwing that v at him. Lol.

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Antoninus said:

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aggieforester05 said:

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DannyDuberstein said:

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Aggie Apotheosis said:

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Our system works this way: a jury found that Carroll proved Trump had sexually abused and defamed her by a preponderance of the evidence. The jury listed to all of the evidence from both sides.

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LOL

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Wow anyone the believes the quoted text needs to seek immediate mental health treatment. That's either straight up lying or a level of ignorance that is simply stunning in this day and age. Holy Carp!

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You are myopic.

The assault claim was he/she said. All other things equal, a coin flip. The jury listened to each of them and found her more credible than him. Why?

Candidly, the man comes across as a snake oil salesman. Always has, back into the 80s. If I were on a jury, I would be skeptical of any words that came out of his mouth, and the jury was apparently equally skeptical.

You people refuse to see it because you bought the snake oil.

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Trump has married 2 supermodels and you want me to believe he banged this mid level chick?

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The one he mistook for his ex wife in a photo, apparently his type

Kansas Kid said:

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Central Committee said:

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Whistle Pig said:

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It seems being a pathological liar is a liability in a "he said she said" civil case.

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Only for Republicans.

THAT is the issue.

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Bill Cosby - Democrat
Harvey Weinstein - Democrat
Jimmy Iovine - Democrat
Axl Rose - frequently bashed Trump
Sean Combs - Biden supporter
Bill Clinton

How many more would you like listed of people that are Dems or Dem supporters sued for sexual assault to disprove your comment?

Btw, the bill that changed the statute of limitations in NY was supported by Republicans in the wake of the Harvey Weinstein and others in the entertainment industry.

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All those people couldn't even name the year their assault happened? You believe Trump raped this woman at a store? This whole case is bull**** political targeting. There's no validity to it at all.

Bunch of envious peeps here tonight.

bobbranco said:

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Which wife? Wimmenz be throwing that v at him. Lol.

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He thought a pic of Carroll was Marla Maples.

So? Big deal. Means absolutely nothing.

bobbranco said:

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So? Big deal. Means absolutely nothing.

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Kinda defeats all his arguments that she was too ugly tho, no?

There's plenty of circumstantial evidence that negates her lies.

But you probably also believe Blasey-Ford.

Whistle Pig said:

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It seems being a pathological liar is a liability in a "he said she said" civil case.

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That's rich coming from the Bill Clinton and Joe Biden supporters.

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Antoninus said:

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aggieforester05 said:

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DannyDuberstein said:

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Aggie Apotheosis said:

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Our system works this way: a jury found that Carroll proved Trump had sexually abused and defamed her by a preponderance of the evidence. The jury listed to all of the evidence from both sides.

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LOL

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Wow anyone the believes the quoted text needs to seek immediate mental health treatment. That's either straight up lying or a level of ignorance that is simply stunning in this day and age. Holy Carp!

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You are myopic.

The assault claim was he/she said. All other things equal, a coin flip. The jury listened to each of them and found her more credible than him. Why?

Candidly, the man comes across as a snake oil salesman. Always has, back into the 80s. If I were on a jury, I would be skeptical of any words that came out of his mouth, and the jury was apparently equally skeptical.

You people refuse to see it because you bought the snake oil.

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Trump has married 2 supermodels and you want me to believe he banged this mid level chick?

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In his deposition he thought she was Marla when shown a picture of her so his eyes, she had potential.

GeorgiAg said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Antoninus said:

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aggieforester05 said:

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DannyDuberstein said:

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Aggie Apotheosis said:

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Our system works this way: a jury found that Carroll proved Trump had sexually abused and defamed her by a preponderance of the evidence. The jury listed to all of the evidence from both sides.

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LOL

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Wow anyone the believes the quoted text needs to seek immediate mental health treatment. That's either straight up lying or a level of ignorance that is simply stunning in this day and age. Holy Carp!

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You are myopic.

The assault claim was he/she said. All other things equal, a coin flip. The jury listened to each of them and found her more credible than him. Why?

Candidly, the man comes across as a snake oil salesman. Always has, back into the 80s. If I were on a jury, I would be skeptical of any words that came out of his mouth, and the jury was apparently equally skeptical.

You people refuse to see it because you bought the snake oil.

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Trump has married 2 supermodels and you want me to believe he banged this mid level chick?

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You mean the one he's on tape, under oath, confusing with his wife?

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I can't stand him and think he's entering early stage dementia (as opposed to Biden who is well along in it).
He confused Nikki Haley for Nancy Pelosi the other day.


So...I could see him being confused NOW.

But, 30 years ago? Nah...

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thanks for the link.

As I suspected, it was not a simple denisl of the assault allegation. He attributed ulterior motives to her. In particular, he claimed that she was a publicity hound, simply attempting to sell books.

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Her claims are sick and anyone who gives credence to them or who agrees that his statements were egregious is not a serious person at all.

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you probably also believe Blasey-Ford.

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So childish.

Satan and his minions are having a field day.

Sometimes you just gotta grab him by the pocketbook.

Irony is everyone bashing Trump and trying to find every excuse to quantify their vote for Biden, completely glazes over the Tara Reade sexual assault case. Point blank shows how ****ing bias and complete garbage our justice system is. But what ever helps you sleep at night.

IslanderAg04 said:

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Irony is everyone bashing Trump and trying to find every excuse to quantify their vote for Biden, completely glazes over the Tara Reade sexual assault case. Point blank shows how ****ing bias and complete garbage our justice system is. But what ever helps you sleep at night.

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I just find it interesting the Trump supporters don't believe Carroll but will quickly say that Reade is telling the truth. I bet if we ask the Biden supporters they will say the opposite. Kind of like a call in football where one set of fans say it was right and the other set of fans say it is horrible call and the refs are paid off.

We have become a country where what you believe about someone is who they support politically rather than getting to know the person.

Btw, I didn't think Reade ever pursued a claim against Biden in court. I thought she just filed a claim with the Senate. If she did file, where she file the case.

VDH for the final word

83 million?

Donald Trump in furor stormed out of a New York courtroom for a while, in the defamation suit brought by author and dating/boyfriend/sex-advice columnist E. Jean Carroll.

It was just settled against Trump for $83.3 million! The Carroll suit was largely subsidized by…

— Victor Davis Hanson (@VDHanson) January 27, 2024

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This Jean Carroll thing is just absolutely nuts, anyone can just claim with no evidence that they were assaulted 30 years ago, then if you deny it it's defamation and you owe them $83 million.

It's pure lunacy, what a sham of a country we live in.

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A female needs to come forward next week in New York and levy the exact same charges against Engoron - with zero evidence- and cite the ruling in Trump's case as why the case can't be thrown out.

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So this is just a grudge match between the jury and trump over how much they disliked him with the case basically only serving as a gift opportunity to inflict punishment for whatever motivation. Civil law is insane at times.

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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Really should be on the mantel in one of his homes. Would save him a lot of trouble.

GeorgiAg said:

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Anyone who supports him VOTED FOR BIDEN makes me seriously question their competency.

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FIFY

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sanangelo said:

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VDH for the final word

83 million?

Donald Trump in furor stormed out of a New York courtroom for a while, in the defamation suit brought by author and dating/boyfriend/sex-advice columnist E. Jean Carroll.

It was just settled against Trump for $83.3 million! The Carroll suit was largely subsidized by…

— Victor Davis Hanson (@VDHanson) January 27, 2024

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Sad that VDH has joined the Trump cult. History will judge him poorly.

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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After accounting for lawyer fees, how much of the $83 million gets funneled back to the DNC?

E Jean might even have enough leftover to buy her a new Subaru.

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Effective altruism at work

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IslanderAg04 said:

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Irony is everyone bashing Trump and trying to find every excuse to quantify their vote for Biden, completely glazes over the Tara Reade sexual assault case. Point blank shows how ****ing bias and complete garbage our justice system is. But what ever helps you sleep at night.

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I just find it interesting the Trump supporters don't believe Carroll but will quickly say that Reade is telling the truth. I bet if we ask the Biden supporters they will say the opposite. Kind of like a call in football where one set of fans say it was right and the other set of fans say it is horrible call and the refs are paid off.

We have become a country where what you believe about someone is who they support politically rather than getting to know the person.

Btw, I didn't think Reade ever pursued a claim against Biden in court. I thought she just filed a claim with the Senate. If she did file, where she file the case.

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Carroll didn't even believe Carroll 5 minutes ago

shiftyandquick said:

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sanangelo said:

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VDH for the final word

83 million?

Donald Trump in furor stormed out of a New York courtroom for a while, in the defamation suit brought by author and dating/boyfriend/sex-advice columnist E. Jean Carroll.

It was just settled against Trump for $83.3 million! The Carroll suit was largely subsidized by…

— Victor Davis Hanson (@VDHanson) January 27, 2024

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Sad that VDH has joined the Trump cult. History will judge him poorly.

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He wrote a darn book about Trump circa 2017. That book, 'The case for Trump', is pretty good at explaining his logic. I don't think VDH is for Trump per se. Rather, he is tuned into why Trump has appeal.

And frankly, cheering for Biden will not wash well for anyone's legacy and VDH is spot on in his criticisms of Biden and whatever/whoever is really Biden (Obama).

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Satan and his minions are having a field day.

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It might be wise for all of us to pray for open eyes and an open heart as to who Satan is a actually using to fool the people.

Gigem314 said:

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Whistle Pig said:

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It seems being a pathological liar is a liability in a "he said she said" civil case.

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That's rich coming from the Bill Clinton and Joe Biden supporters.

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1) Not a Joe Biden or Bill Clinton supporter

2) Your point is irrelevant because a) this a thread about Donald Trump b) even if Biden and Clinton are terrible men who committed crimes, that doesn't in any way exculpate Trump.

Kansas Kid said:

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IslanderAg04 said:

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Irony is everyone bashing Trump and trying to find every excuse to quantify their vote for Biden, completely glazes over the Tara Reade sexual assault case. Point blank shows how ****ing bias and complete garbage our justice system is. But what ever helps you sleep at night.

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I just find it interesting the Trump supporters don't believe Carroll but will quickly say that Reade is telling the truth. I bet if we ask the Biden supporters they will say the opposite. Kind of like a call in football where one set of fans say it was right and the other set of fans say it is horrible call and the refs are paid off.

We have become a country where what you believe about someone is who they support politically rather than getting to know the person.

Btw, I didn't think Reade ever pursued a claim against Biden in court. I thought she just filed a claim with the Senate. If she did file, where she file the case.

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I'm, nobody is saying that Reade is telling the truth, they point out the hypocrisy that democrats live by. If Carroll is to believed then why not Reade?