I don't care if you don't like Trump, this is a travesty

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Quite the shocking result given the panel of two Obama judges and one Biden judge. /s

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Who would have guessed?
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Sure, just identify as a woman and gets double pay day
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unimboti nkum said:

Time to crank up the nft machine!


If Elon won't bail him out, maybe trump can try selling some more bibles.
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Succubus memaw prevails.
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Can this be appealed further?
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
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richardag said:

Can this be appealed further?
Trump can request the entire 2nd Circuit review the appeal again, and/or appeal the 2nd Circuit's ruling to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Neither would be obligated to take the appeal.
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Note: this is for the initial $5 million judgment. Not the $88 million one that came later.

That appeal is still pending.

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TXAggie2011 said:

richardag said:

Can this be appealed further?
Trump can request the entire 2nd Circuit review the appeal again, and/or appeal the 2nd Circuit's ruling to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Neither would be obligated to take the appeal.
Thank you for the response.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
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Im Gipper said:

Note: this is for the initial $5 million judgment. Not the $88 million one that came later.

That appeal is still pending.
Appreciate the information, thanks.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
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Im Gipper said:

Note: this is for the initial $5 million judgment. Not the $88 million one that came later.

That appeal is still pending.
It's a tad late, but it sure would be more efficient to have CBS pay her the $5 million. They owed Trump $15 million, just take out $5 million and call it a day.

It fits all of CBS's goals and aspirations.
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Being an ignorant finance guy, I didn't know state issues could be appealed to SCOTUS.

Don't misunderstand me, I'm glad it will be, but wasn't aware.
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I believe this was in federal court because she was resident of New York and Trump of Florida.

In "diversity jurisdiction" cases federal courts hear state law claims and appeals. Extremely unlikely SCOTUS hears this.


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Gracias!

I was wondering.
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It's a travesty how much credibility the courts have destroyed by participating in Stalinist trials against Trump.

Those "judges" would be ashamed if they had any ethical bones in their bodies. They do not.
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will25u said:





interpretation for us non-legal types?
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agracer said:

will25u said:





interpretation for us non-legal types?

I saw this on Twitter, and seems to be spot on:

"It is FUNDAMENTAL tenet of law that you can NOT infer malicious conduct from lawful conduct. NOTHING in the Access Hollywood tape provided a reasonable inference of non-consensual conduct since the ONLY reference is to "they LET you do it." Completely repugnant to due process."

The judge in the case let the Access Hollywood tape in, and the plaintiffs claimed that this showed a pattern of behavior that Trump treats all women bad and forces himself on them.

But, the reality is that the tape was just a discussion between two guys doing locker room talk, and Trump indicated in the tape that he only does things that women let them do.

I know that it is impossible for some people to believe that Trump might exaggerate, just a little bit, how incredibly irresistible that hot women find him.

It's a sham trial, in my opinion. Anything bringing up 30 year old accusations of assault needs to be documented with pretty solid proof. What was presented was not anything close to pretty solid proof.

The dissenters say that the Access Hollywood tape should never have been admitted as evidence. The majority say that it was fine to let the tape in. But, the dissent gives Team Trump a pretty clear path to do down with SCOTUS.

Nothing surprising here.
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Quote:

interpretation for us non-legal types?

Haven't read the amicus in full yet but understand the general issue.

It is an evidentiary issue that often arises. The two rules are 403 and 404. More commonly referred to as prior bad acts or propensity evidence and when such evidence is admissible and when it is not.

The simplest example of prior bad acts would be past convictions. Distance in time, nature of the act being closely similar to the conduct at issue. A false statement conviction ten years earlier is not relevant in a murder case, for instance.

Same for propensity, or pattern of behavior evidence. The old well-he-has-done-something-similar-before argument. Again, distance in time and how close the past behavior matches the current conduct.

The general assessment for admissibility is whether the probative value of the submitted evidence as it relate to a relevant issue in the case outweighs the prejudice to the party it is being used against.

In this case the question is about the old Access Hollywood tape and how that related to Carroll's accusations.

HTH..
 
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