Trump Shutting Down USAID

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Most 'liberals' who largely support what USAID was 'doing' in my opinion have essentially no idea what…it was doing. Regime change, censorship, NGO money laundering etc. are not 'liberal' activities any classical liberal would support.
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titan said:

BBRex said:

BusterAg said:

FireAg said:

The rub becomes codifying it though…

We can focus on those things all we want, but it's a short term focus, fueled by EOs, until enough folks in Congress are motivated to codify things permanently…
I am pretty sure that even Congress is not stupid enough to further fund USAID by statute at this point.
If only F16 voted, then yes. You seem to forget a large number of people support some or all of the work USAID is doing. Same with Department of Education and so on. That's part of how we have gotten to where we are now.
Probably a lot of liberals, not insane Leftists, didn't want their money flushed that way either. Not many except those directly on the trough could like having so much being wasted while having to spend and contend with so much themselves. And those of them that think outside "education" cannot like having been just lied to about everything government going on which Tapper's book is even de-facto conceding.
This.

Last week I was in the Inland Empire of California sitting at a brewery and discussing tips (seed money and $2 bills to increase likelihood of people tipping with cash if they still carry cash) with the still mask wearing bartender.
I was very pleasantly surprised (not expecting due to the mask) that she was fully on board with Trump removing the taxes from tips (and pay in general) and the elimination of waste spending. She said she had to be very careful with what she said as many people don't like to hear it in those kinds of establishments (and around dinking), but seems like many people from all walks of life are seeing the money that was taken from them going to others; and it make them angry.
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I've said this before, but most people who support USAID don't read the X posts that you post here, and they don't believe them if they do. So that outrage about how their tax dollars are being spent isn't there. The MSM isn't reporting what the X folks are, so they don't believe it. And I'm not saying I don't believe it, but I would like to see some independent verification of some of the claims.
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Scruffy said:

titan said:

BBRex said:

BusterAg said:

FireAg said:

The rub becomes codifying it though…

We can focus on those things all we want, but it's a short term focus, fueled by EOs, until enough folks in Congress are motivated to codify things permanently…
I am pretty sure that even Congress is not stupid enough to further fund USAID by statute at this point.
If only F16 voted, then yes. You seem to forget a large number of people support some or all of the work USAID is doing. Same with Department of Education and so on. That's part of how we have gotten to where we are now.
Probably a lot of liberals, not insane Leftists, didn't want their money flushed that way either. Not many except those directly on the trough could like having so much being wasted while having to spend and contend with so much themselves. And those of them that think outside "education" cannot like having been just lied to about everything government going on which Tapper's book is even de-facto conceding.
This.

Last week I was in the Inland Empire of California sitting at a brewery and discussing tips (seed money and $2 bills to increase likelihood of people tipping with cash if they still carry cash) with the still mask wearing bartender.
I was very pleasantly surprised (not expecting due to the mask) that she was fully on board with Trump removing the taxes from tips (and pay in general) and the elimination of waste spending. She said she had to be very careful with what she said as many people don't like to hear it in those kinds of establishments (and around dinking), but seems like many people from all walks of life are seeing the money that was taken from them going to others; and it make them angry.


The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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Do you keep up with Mike Benz? He has all the receipts and is probably the most competent person alive on the things going on with USAID as a whole.
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BBRex said:

I've said this before, but most people who support USAID don't read the X posts that you post here, and they don't believe them if they do. So that outrage about how their tax dollars are being spent isn't there. The MSM isn't reporting what the X folks are, so they don't believe it. And I'm not saying I don't believe it, but I would like to see some independent verification of some of the claims.


Would more liberals read it and believe it, if republicans were also accused of also being on the take?
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JFABNRGR said:

BBRex said:

I've said this before, but most people who support USAID don't read the X posts that you post here, and they don't believe them if they do. So that outrage about how their tax dollars are being spent isn't there. The MSM isn't reporting what the X folks are, so they don't believe it. And I'm not saying I don't believe it, but I would like to see some independent verification of some of the claims.


Would more liberals read it and believe it, if republicans were also accused of also being on the take?
Its pretty obvious many pre-current admin Republicans were on the take. Part of the demonization of Ted Cruz was he was an early "rattle the cage" of the takers when he went to the Senate.

As for the MSM, of course they are not reporting it. They are part of the graft and still haven't been punished for the gaslighting. (Though the layoffs suggest maybe the market is and without USAID propping up, they are becoming answerable to the market again)
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It's illogical to wait for the MSM (AKA USAID News services) to report on the corruption and sedition/treason there. If that's what it would take for the 'liberals' to believe it to be the case, there's no point in engaging in discussion.

Questions as to specific facts/issues can be raised quite easily outside of whatever CBS/ABC/CNN/NPR etc. report.
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I get that MSM also on the take isn't going to report on themselves or even republicans per se, my comment was for the locals on F16, that some of them might be red pilled, if we call out our supposed own.

The deep state has existed so long and is so strong because of the gate keeping processes and power people that they put in play.
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Hasn't mike Benz been saying that for a long time?
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BBRex said:

BusterAg said:

FireAg said:

The rub becomes codifying it though…

We can focus on those things all we want, but it's a short term focus, fueled by EOs, until enough folks in Congress are motivated to codify things permanently…
I am pretty sure that even Congress is not stupid enough to further fund USAID by statute at this point.
If only F16 voted, then yes. You seem to forget a large number of people support some or all of the work USAID is doing. Same with Department of Education and so on. That's part of how we have gotten to where we are now.
A large number of people see AID in the name and think they are feeding starving children. Which is a miniscule part of what they spend money on, but it is exactly what the CIA and State Dept wanted people to think when they set it up to be the front for funds they couldnt or didnt want to have to explain the real purpose of.
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Who?mikejones! said:

Hasn't mike Benz been saying that for a long time?
Yes, and "bringing the receipts" to prove it, as Bongino liked to say. Benz showed how that admin was a bad actor well before it was blindingly obvious.
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"If it's too dirty for the CIA, they give it to USAID." Mike Benz
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Love this! Thank you Rep Wesley Hunt.

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LGBTQ in Cambodia. Goodness.

The Breitbart piece is exactly right, imho.
And to those who perceived, wrongly, that USAID was critical soft-power to help US diplomacy, I'd again note that is just false, as when it pushes leftist tropes abroad many times it pushed governments toward an embrace of our enemies, as here:

And here; note that for instance most/all of the Greek legislators who voted for this gay marriage stuff…were then summarily voted out/excommunicated etc.

End USAID: let foreign governments/peoples run their own countries.
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Trump cutting off the gravy train sent shockwaves through the rest of the world.
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It really begs the question; what portion of Americans would favor funding Australian universities with federal income tax dollars, and what portion even knew it was/is happening? $400 million a year?

Oh but, 'soft diplomacy' right? Because we should support/subsidize the totalitarian fascist leftist government running Australia to continue to indoctrinate their youth? I notice a "Peter S" comment on that thread:
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Australian here…100% agree!! Our universities have been set up to fund overseas (full fee paying) students at the cost of Australian's…the flow on has been a back door immigration scheme and a noose around the Australians necks called HECs!!
A Columbia University writ large across the globe.

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nortex97 said:

It really begs the question; what portion of Americans would favor funding Australian universities with federal income tax dollars, and what portion even knew it was/is happening? $400 million a year?
I'll say it again. This is how you get 37 trillion dollars in debt. We have strayed so far from what out founders intended our federal government to be that it's unrecognizable. Nobody in their right mind would approve of this, but the dollars got hidden in some 5,000 page budget or CR along the way and nobody cared enough to put a stop to it.

We have been ill served by elected officials of both parties for a long, long time. I prayTrump and his team can prevail against all the forces alligned against them and put an end to the lunacy/treachery.
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This is how you get countries to buy in and propagate your leftist bull*****
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CatD11Ag said:

Love this! Thank you Rep Wesley Hunt.


Damn...

He just kicked them square in the nuts...
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Looks like we only had friends because we paid them.

Why should we fund universities in Australia?
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Holy crap this is delicious. UN 'risk management' agency is gutting staff and this might lead to…staffers losing their G4 visas to stay in the US as a result of USAID cuts.
Fox News; DOGE USAID budget cuts worst liquidity crisis at UN since it's establishment.
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FIRST ON FOX: President Donald Trump's administration's use of Elon Musk's DOGE to cut USAID spending is having a deep impact on the United Nations Department of Safety and Security (UNDSS), according to internal U.N. emails shared with Fox News Digital.

In an email sent early Friday morning, president of the U.N. Field Staff Union, Milan Victor Dawoh wrote that the USAID funding cut resulted in "approximately $30 million" having been "removed from the extra-budgetary (XB) resources, resulting in a significant reduction in staffing."

Dawoh's email warns that the U.N. "is currently experiencing its worst liquidity crisis since its establishment. The situation is expected to deteriorate further before any improvement occurs."
Dawoh said that UNDSS will lose 100 employees and that its presence will be eliminated in 35 to 45 countries, while noting that "regional hubs" will be established "in the remaining 120 countries where UNDSS will maintain a presence."
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A U.N. source speaking on condition of anonymity said that in the midst of financial uncertainty, U.N. staff "are very fearful of their immediate future." The source said that concerns include the ability to collect pensions and access their United Nations Federal Credit Union accounts. The source indicated that because "most of these staffers that are losing their jobs are . . . on G-4 visas," the change may even impact their ability to stay in the U.S.

"This is an implication beyond just losing the jobs of individuals. It impacts families, and this could be massive in the coming weeks with new cuts that will impact U.N. agencies."
Jeremy Clarkson: 'Oh no! Anyway.'
"I been preaching about this for a while."

LOL, Hunter Biden trips all the way back to 2010? Was he ostensibly inspecting radio antennae for Voice of America?
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BBRex said:

BusterAg said:

FireAg said:

The rub becomes codifying it though…

We can focus on those things all we want, but it's a short term focus, fueled by EOs, until enough folks in Congress are motivated to codify things permanently…
I am pretty sure that even Congress is not stupid enough to further fund USAID by statute at this point.
If only F16 voted, then yes. You seem to forget a large number of people support some or all of the work USAID is doing. Same with Department of Education and so on. That's part of how we have gotten to where we are now.
I guess 'a large number of people' don't include this lady from Africa.

But what do Africans know about all of the good work USAID was doing in Africa?
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My fellow workmate is married to a higher up in USAID leadership. His wife is still in her OCONUS office. Her staff(as of last week) refusing to leave their station.

This has really put a wedge between the wife(USAID Leadership) and himself, to the point they might divorce.
They have both discussed the cruddy stuff USAID has perpetrated, knowingly going way off the reservation and providing funding anyway.

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Just completed my federal tax form. We are not rich, but it might sound like it after posting this data. We pay more in FEDERAL taxes than housing, transportation, food and healthcare combined. Just cut a check for the delta including a small fine for the underpay. This does not include a pretty sizable hit - for us - on capital gains for NVDA. Yet our nation is 36,000,000,000,000 in debt. Washington is not our friend. They have shown zero ability or desire to limit spending and actually help those who need it the most. MAGA and Elon are finally trying to address the issue. I hope it is the sword our president is willing to fall on. This might be our last chance.
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I haven't seen any reference to this guy on here. From what I can tell, he is alleging that, essentially, Hamas has taken over USAID offices in places like Cairo! He lays out these claims not from research or sources, but from actually being at these places.

And by "taken over," I don't mean USAID left and they took the building; I mean, they're there along with USAID people still doing USAID type stuff.


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I posted about him when I found his original foray into the USAID building in Cairo. That was fairly amusing.

He's a decent follow, if a bit repetitive imho. Of course, he's right that much of the 'migration' (invasion) into America under Biden was funded via USAID NGO networks.



Good to see, if not directly USAID-related.
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The left is fighting back hard on this one so you know there's a river of dirty money involved.
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Bobaloo said:

Just completed my federal tax form. We are not rich, but it might sound like it after posting this data. We pay more in FEDERAL taxes than housing, transportation, food and healthcare combined. Just cut a check for the delta including a small fine for the underpay. This does not include a pretty sizable hit - for us - on capital gains for NVDA. Yet our nation is 36,000,000,000,000 in debt. Washington is not our friend. They have shown zero ability or desire to limit spending and actually help those who need it the most. MAGA and Elon are finally trying to address the issue. I hope it is the sword our president is willing to fall on. This might be our last chance.


Everyone should add up their annual: Fed and state income tax, property tax, sales tax, SS and Medicare tax, capital gains tax, … every tax you can think of. The sum of these taxes will probably make your blood boil; especially in light of how it's being misspent
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Explains a lot.
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Daily **** the left post. ****ing anti American jizz rags.
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Mostly Foggy Recollection said:

Daily **** the left post. ****ing anti American jizz rags.
It saddens me that there are plenty of folks that will still vote (D) after all this. How willfully stupid does one have to be to know all of this and still support it?
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Update: insane TRO reinstating USAID by robed moron cos-playing as a judge (Chuang) stayed on appeal (4th circuit).

Great to see. Chuang went so far overboard on this it was inevitable it would boomerang on his cause. He decided he alone would run USAID because the executive branch wasn't doing it right, basically.



This is what happens when Dem partisan DEI judges are confirmed along party-line votes. They clown for headlines and are then dunked on.
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