DOW down another thousand [Started 4/21/25]

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EFR
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Press releases and announcements do not equal investment.
Do you believe that the made up company that announced they were investing 10 Billion to manufacture chips at RELLIS is actual investment? Of course not, because they haven't done anything and likely never will. Most of the announced investment is either to placate Trump or never actually going to happen.
Captain Winky
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8 trillion? Do you have a source for that number because it sounds totally made up.
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Hoyt Ag said:

infinity ag said:

techno-ag said:

infinity ag said:

LMCane said:

wow- so quiet from all those crying about how Trump was going to destroy the Stock Market a month ago..


Dow jumps 600 points on solid jobs report,

S&P 500 heads for longest winning streak in 20 years



Hold your horses, ma man.

The indexes are still down YTD and down from Jan 20. You can gloat after they cross that and make some us some money. The above lines in bold mean nothing.

I am expecting Trump's economy to beat Biden's and it is still a work in progress.





How so?

I want to make 25% in 2025. Once i do, I will say things are better. Right now I am -25% YTD.
How the F are you down 25% at this moment? That is just bad investing, not a function of the market conditions.

Exactly, the market is a betting platform for some.
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bobbranco said:

Hoyt Ag said:

infinity ag said:

techno-ag said:

infinity ag said:

LMCane said:

wow- so quiet from all those crying about how Trump was going to destroy the Stock Market a month ago..


Dow jumps 600 points on solid jobs report,

S&P 500 heads for longest winning streak in 20 years



Hold your horses, ma man.

The indexes are still down YTD and down from Jan 20. You can gloat after they cross that and make some us some money. The above lines in bold mean nothing.

I am expecting Trump's economy to beat Biden's and it is still a work in progress.





How so?

I want to make 25% in 2025. Once i do, I will say things are better. Right now I am -25% YTD.
How the F are you down 25% at this moment? That is just bad investing, not a function of the market conditions.

Exactly, the market is a betting platform for some.
NOTE to self. Do not invest in Autopen.
Fat Bottom Squirrels
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It's so amazing how some people care more about politics than their own personal well being. We have posters in this thread literally mad about MAKING money because it counters their personal political narratives. My god, talk about false idols…
techno-ag
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From the investing thread, tied into something mentioned earlier here:

EastTX_Aggie said:


The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
Logos Stick
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Buffett still holding lots of cash and fixed income. He increased treasuries over the last quarter.
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Tariffs are the end of the world.

The markets are at the level they were way back in....checks graph....September.

You don't hate Democrats and legacy media near enough.

“It was miraculous. It was almost no trick at all, he saw, to turn vice into virtue and slander into truth, impotence into abstinence, arrogance into humility, plunder into philanthropy, thievery into honor, blasphemy into wisdom, brutality into patriotism, and sadism into justice. Anybody could do it; it required no brains at all. It merely required no character.”
Joseph Heller, Catch 22
JWinTX
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This thread must stay on page 1…
techno-ag
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Back up to the level we were on Inauguration Day.
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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Logos Stick said:

Buffett still holding lots of cash and fixed income. He increased treasuries over the last quarter.


To be fair, he looks like someone who would suffer from severe TDS, to their own possible personal detriment.
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El Gallo Blanco said:

Logos Stick said:

Buffett still holding lots of cash and fixed income. He increased treasuries over the last quarter.


To be fair, he looks like someone who would suffer from severe TDS, to their own possible personal detriment.


Ugh huh, sure.

The GOAT of investing/economic tides vs TDS TexAgs claims.

I know where my money would be.

Qs are still down -4%+ and SPY -3+% YTD. I don't get this line of dialogue at all. Congrats?
techno-ag
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bjork said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

Logos Stick said:

Buffett still holding lots of cash and fixed income. He increased treasuries over the last quarter.


To be fair, he looks like someone who would suffer from severe TDS, to their own possible personal detriment.


Ugh huh, sure.

The GOAT of investing/economic tides vs TDS TexAgs claims.

I know where my money would be.

Qs are still down -4%+ and SPY -3+% YTD. I don't get this line of dialogue at all. Congrats?

So we're worried about QQQ and SPY now?


The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
LMCane
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closing in to within 1% of my all time high portfolio across all asset classes

(401K, Bitcoin, private brokerage, CDs)



slaughtr
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So......

Lower then?
infinity ag
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Everyday Americans are so tactical. Never strategic.

Always whining about their 401ks when their futures are being sold out for pennies.
Sid Farkas
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infinity ag said:

Everyday Americans are so tactical. Never strategic.

Always whining about their 401ks when their futures are being sold out for pennies.
Tom Kazansky 2012
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infinity ag said:

Everyday Americans are so tactical. Never strategic.

Always whining about their 401ks when their futures are being sold out for pennies.
techno-ag
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Checking in.

Yup. Dow still up.
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
Malibu
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We're in the third inning of a long game. Lets see how this plays out. We have major logistics shifts that just happened and the supply chain people are chicken littling right now. Were also getting negotiated trade deals and China went from no concessions ever to negotiating in Switzerland in less than a month. Too early to spike the football of Trumps brilliance or do aTDS dance around the bonfire of capitalisms ashes.
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Dammit, we aren't here for logic and patience. We have to declare defeat or victory RIGHT NOW!

Seriously, the only thing I'll disagree with is your baseball analogy. A presidential term lasts 1461 days, and we are at day 110. We are only one out deep into the bottom of the first inning
LMCane
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Trump reporting great progress in meetings with the CHICOMS today


LMCane
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2040huck said:

When does the populist change direction?

Care to change your Original Post now...

or would you like to go down with your ship?



JWinTX
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This thread is just pure gold
Dave Robicheaux
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Reciprocal tariffs going down 125% bilaterally today with china, per secretary Bessant.

90 day pause.
2000AgPhD
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That's good news, but Trump needs to hold the ChiCom's feet to the proverbial fire. They are past masters at promising everything and delivering on nothing.
nortex97
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I'm not real good with math but this looks like a strong open coming up.

VIX (fear/volatility index) is back under 20.

Sorry for your losses, Democrats, but at least your friends the Chinese are happy. Hang Seng is now much higher than it was in Oct-Nov 2024.
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The 90 day pause on a large percentage of the tariffs to China seems like Trump caving to the outside perspective. What did the tariffs with them actually do to help the US so far? I haven't seen evidence they gave up anything.
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techno-ag
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Gradin said:

The 90 day pause on a large percentage of the tariffs to China seems like Trump caving to the outside perspective. What did the tariffs with them actually do to help the US so far? I haven't seen evidence they gave up anything.

So the Chi-coms have anti US tariffs. They're now paused for three months and you think that's a bad thing? Interesting take.
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
Prosperdick
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techno-ag said:

Gradin said:

The 90 day pause on a large percentage of the tariffs to China seems like Trump caving to the outside perspective. What did the tariffs with them actually do to help the US so far? I haven't seen evidence they gave up anything.

So the Chi-coms have anti US tariffs. They're now paused for three months and you think that's a bad thing? Interesting take.

I actually predicted in another thread that the theme will be "Trump got played" despite any news to the contrary. It simply doesn't matter anymore, not that it ever did.

Anything Trump does is bad and the left must take the opposite side. It's why they are on the wrong side of so many 80-20 issues.
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You can spin anything to look how you want and, since people are pre-disposed to believe one side over the other, people will accept the spin.

It's very similar to a trade in professional sports. Both sides say they won the trade and nobody will know who really won for years.
LMCane
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For those interested in the FACTS

here is Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent interview for 13 minutes today!

Bessent Interview 12 May
Logos Stick
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Gradin said:

The 90 day pause on a large percentage of the tariffs to China seems like Trump caving to the outside perspective. What did the tariffs with them actually do to help the US so far? I haven't seen evidence they gave up anything.

The U.S. agreed to lower the base level of tariffs on most Chinese goods to 30%, from 145%, while China said it would cut its levies on U.S. products to 10% from 125%.

I'd say that's a win.

And its not over.
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Logos Stick said:

Gradin said:

The 90 day pause on a large percentage of the tariffs to China seems like Trump caving to the outside perspective. What did the tariffs with them actually do to help the US so far? I haven't seen evidence they gave up anything.

The U.S. agreed to lower the base level of tariffs on most Chinese goods to 30%, from 145%, while China said it would cut its levies on U.S. products to 10% from 125%.

I'd say that's a win.

And its not over.

And China reducing non tariff barriers.
 
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