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MouthBQ98 said:

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I have no problem with this. This is a very easily quantified adder and pointing it out is reasonable. We do the same with sales taxes. If the a Trump admin wants to go the tariff route then they should be open and honest about what it is and what they believe the costs and benefits are.

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Except it's not. Companies have to compete for sales. Just because the tariff is 20% or 100% doesn't mean the product price is $ for $ increased. Amazon has no idea what the impact of that actual tariff is. This is silly political theater as always.

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Amazon directly imports tons of stuff. Since they are the importer, distributor, and end-retailer yes they can calculate THESE tariff costs.

What they cannot do so easily (or at all) is calculate tariff costs for goods that come through other importers and/or distributors (or from other sellers selling on Amazon).

They also can't calculate costs that are indirectly caused by tariffs for other costs of doing business - you can think of this as being similar to how inflation impacts their bottom line across the board.

Update: Amazon Denies Report that 'Tariff Cost' Will Be Shown Next to Product Prices

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UPDATE:

Since the original story appeared in Punchbowl News, Amazon has seen fit to issue a response denying it ever considered such a proposition:

Amazon statement: “The team that runs our ultra low cost Amazon Haul store has considered listing import charges on certain products. This was never a consideration for the main Amazon site and nothing has been implemented on any Amazon properties.”

— Jeff Stein (@JStein_WaPo) April 29, 2025

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Artorias said:

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Anonymous Source said:

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Amazon lays it out plainly for everyone to see and we're somehow mad at Amazon?

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The issue is they are choosing to do it now but not for previous admins/situations. But you knew that.

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Tariffs were negligible before.

So, Trump told Bezos to knock it off, and it's over.

🚨 JUST IN: Minutes after President Trump called Jeff Bezos this morning, Amazon CAVED and backtracked on their plans to display “tariff prices” next to products on the website

Trump made very clear to Amazon that if they were going to get further in bed with China, there would… pic.twitter.com/O6qynsAaQI

— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) April 29, 2025

MAGA.

nortex97 said:

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So, Trump told Bezos to knock it off, and it's over.

🚨 JUST IN: Minutes after President Trump called Jeff Bezos this morning, Amazon CAVED and backtracked on their plans to display “tariff prices” next to products on the website

Trump made very clear to Amazon that if they were going to get further in bed with China, there would… pic.twitter.com/O6qynsAaQI

— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) April 29, 2025

MAGA.

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Now if Trump can keep prices from going up, because, if people noticed the price of eggs going up, believe me, they'll notice the price of everything else they buy, be it from Amazon or the grocery store.

AtticusMatlock said:

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They should be required to boldly, clearly, in your face display country of origin for all products.

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As soon as Covid hit Amazon buries the country of origin stuff they used to have visible when you looked at product details. Didn't want the consumer to easily identify and filter out products from China

El Gallo Blanco said:

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pollo hermanos said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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Anonymous Source said:

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MouthBQ98 said:

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I have no problem with this. This is a very easily quantified adder and pointing it out is reasonable. We do the same with sales taxes. If the a Trump admin wants to go the tariff route then they should be open and honest about what it is and what they believe the costs and benefits are.

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MAGA: I've got no issue with short term pain. I'll pay whatever....
Also MAGA: I'd rather not have the amount of short term pain I'm having to pay waved in my face.

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Non-MAGA: Men can get pregnant and chestfeed and it's also appropriate to bring toddlers and small children to drag shows!

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That is just all non-WOKE men. Sorry MAGA you down own those issues. Check out almost every other person on the right that thinks MAGA is silly, Bill Maher, Sam Harris, etc. The idea isnt novel.

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You all vote for politicians that support these things. EVERY SINGLE DEM SENATOR recently pledged support for biological men in womens' sports. It's a carney freak show.

Bill Maher (did you imply he is on the right?) still votes democrat, so he directly supports these things in the most direct way possible...even if he b*tches about it.

My only point is that ZERO liberal "men" should ever be casting stones or mocking what Trump supporters believe. Your absolute best and brightest on the left (Justice Ketanji Brown for instance) have zero clue what a woman is. The simple question completely bewilders her. I wonder if you can answer it? You willing to commit ouright heresy in front of other democrats on here?

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Bill and Sam aren't on the right now but he is very hard on trans/WOKE movement. Just as hard as most on the right, harder probably. You're not going to get everything you want in a president/politician so it isnt inconsistent to vote for those candidates and hate those policies. Same as those that held their nose and voted Trump. Not a hard concept.

It isnt just liberal men that mock Trump or what his supporters find the mental gymnastics to defend. Its anyone that is non-MAGA (which includes many traditional conservatives) I dont even know what liberal men have to do with this conversation.

pollo hermanos said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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pollo hermanos said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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MouthBQ98 said:

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I have no problem with this. This is a very easily quantified adder and pointing it out is reasonable. We do the same with sales taxes. If the a Trump admin wants to go the tariff route then they should be open and honest about what it is and what they believe the costs and benefits are.

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MAGA: I've got no issue with short term pain. I'll pay whatever....
Also MAGA: I'd rather not have the amount of short term pain I'm having to pay waved in my face.

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Non-MAGA: Men can get pregnant and chestfeed and it's also appropriate to bring toddlers and small children to drag shows!

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That is just all non-WOKE men. Sorry MAGA you down own those issues. Check out almost every other person on the right that thinks MAGA is silly, Bill Maher, Sam Harris, etc. The idea isnt novel.

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You all vote for politicians that support these things. EVERY SINGLE DEM SENATOR recently pledged support for biological men in womens' sports. It's a carney freak show.

Bill Maher (did you imply he is on the right?) still votes democrat, so he directly supports these things in the most direct way possible...even if he b*tches about it.

My only point is that ZERO liberal "men" should ever be casting stones or mocking what Trump supporters believe. Your absolute best and brightest on the left (Justice Ketanji Brown for instance) have zero clue what a woman is. The simple question completely bewilders her. I wonder if you can answer it? You willing to commit ouright heresy in front of other democrats on here?

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Bill and Sam aren't on the right now but he is very hard on trans/WOKE movement. Just as hard as most on the right, harder probably. You're not going to get everything you want in a president/politician so it isnt inconsistent to vote for those candidates and hate those policies. Same as those that held their nose and voted Trump. Not a hard concept.

It isnt just liberal men that mock Trump or what his supporters find the mental gymnastics to defend. Its anyone that is non-MAGA (which includes many traditional conservatives) I dont even know what liberal men have to do with this conversation.

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I pretty much only see anti-Trump vitriol or mockery from liberal men and CM's. Tons of leftists flipped out when Maher (fellow devout liberal - just not extremely woke) met with Trump and said he actually came across as a nice dude who wanted to listen to what he had to say and was easy to talk to. This created an uproar in the liberal "male" community.

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Update: Amazon Denies Report that 'Tariff Cost' Will Be Shown Next to Product Prices

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UPDATE:

Since the original story appeared in Punchbowl News, Amazon has seen fit to issue a response denying it ever considered such a proposition:

Amazon statement: “The team that runs our ultra low cost Amazon Haul store has considered listing import charges on certain products. This was never a consideration for the main Amazon site and nothing has been implemented on any Amazon properties.”

— Jeff Stein (@JStein_WaPo) April 29, 2025

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That fallout moved fast

CLEAN UP ON AISLE 4

As Leavitt and Bessent both pointed out, Amazon did not add a Biden inflation indicator nor a Biden Chine tariff indicator.

I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you.

bobbranco said:

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Nice. Will be easy to identify crap I don't want to purchase.

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This. Tariff charge is 145%? Oh. That's China crap. Let me find an alternative.

I don't get the outrage, and I'm all for tariffing China out of existence.

p.s., I know it's most likely all China crap.

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AtticusMatlock said:

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They should be required to boldly, clearly, in your face display country of origin for all products.

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As soon as Covid hit Amazon buries the country of origin stuff they used to have visible when you looked at product details. Didn't want the consumer to easily identify and filter out products from China

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Amazon also uses a lot of individual vendors.

If this leads to Amazon dumping all of the knockoff cheap Chinese crap they push I'm all for it.

Half of the crap on that site is just that and it's worthless junk.

Good. now I know which items are truly made in America, and I'll buy those...

What happened to government not interfering with businesses?

Nightly fake news narrative tonight: 'Sources indicate Trump screamed at Jeff Bezos to hide the impact from consumers, and threatened to cancel all Blue Origin contracts in favor of SpaceX unless he backed down. Amazon doesn't actually sell any products that are made outside of the United States.'

-Fake, but probably accurate.

Kyle Field Shade Chaser said:

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Good. now I know which items are truly made in America, and I'll buy those...

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Truth in labeling regarding where goods are made is going to become an increasing opportunity for the marketing and corp compliance folks.

Already a lot has been done regarding ethical sourcing of things from diamonds to cacao for your Cadbury Dairy Milks - so the methods are there.

Places like Patriot Depot and Mammoth Nation seem well-positioned but need to ensure their validation methods are sound.

Already an increasing amount of commercials are advertising their goods are Made in the USA whilst others are indicating their ability to ramp up US manufacturing with excess capacity.

Trump may be the best 1980's retreader of all time. Recall we did the Made in the USA push big time in the 80's, Trump's most beautiful, wonderful, very great decade.

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The Republicans will get destroyed in 2026 because of things like this. People vote based on their wallets.

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Yes, and Trump and MAGA have horribly misread the room. They won on the patently false idea that they were going to bring back lower prices. That's it. That's what people came out for. Project 2025 has never had a mandate. Tariffs have never had a mandate.

And the net positive impact from reduced trade deficits, more resilient supply chain, reduced national debt, etc., etc.

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trump: i'm raising taxes americans pay on imported goods from all countries
amazon: here are those tax raises
trump: how dare you

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Then why not add a line on transportation savings due to decreased fuel costs?

Jeff Bezos is a political hack that purchased a newspaper to attack political candidates.

He made concerted attempts to destroy bookstores, knowingly using targeted pricing. He had a corrupt judge used in a lawsuit against Apple after Apple had deals with 5 publishers to sue Apple and get them out of selling digital books.

Jeff Bezos is a weasel never to be trusted.

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Amazon lays it out plainly for everyone to see and we're somehow mad at Amazon?

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Everyone?
It is Amazon selectively targeting one cost increase. Jeff forgot about:

• Inflation
• Fuel costs
• Lower Corporate Income taxes

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What happened to government not interfering with businesses?

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Since when has Trump ever acted like he isnt going to interfere with businesses? That's a principal part of the MAGA movement and MAGA is okay with it. See the war on law firms and any other time he pressures private businesses publicly. Free market folks dont have a place right now.

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Amazon lays it out plainly for everyone to see and we're somehow mad at Amazon?

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They only broke out tariffs
How about:

• Inflation
• Lower fuel costs
• Lowered Corporate income taxes

This is selective bull**** for political reasons

AtticusMatlock said:

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They should be required to boldly, clearly, in your face display country of origin for all products.

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Agreed
Some supplements I buy it is damn near impossible to determine the country of origin. I categorically do not want any supplements or pharmaceuticals made in China. I do not trust China's government at all.

Kyle Field Shade Chaser said:

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Good. now I know which items are truly made in America, and I'll buy those...

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Or they could just, you know, require a company of origin for all items and then allow buyers to filter to view only US COO.

But as it is right now, it's not easy to wade thru the items and read descriptions to find COO. And even if you add "made in US" to your search, it pulls back crap product that's obviously not US.

I am as conservative as they come. I voted for Trump because of social issues, knowing full well that he is not a fiscal conservative. I believe that tariffs are just a tax on consumers. I would say that if China wants to subsidize their economy using taxes on their citizens so that they can sell stuff cheaper, then fine by me. That just allows more developed countries to focus on higher value added activities.

That said, there is also a danger getting into bed with a country like China. One obvious danger is if we allow China to completely corner the market for critical raw materials like rare earth elements.

A less obvious one is that manufacturing is a skill that can only be mastered by doing it. We are already seeing the impacts on our ability to manufacture ships. If we want to remain a superpower, there is a basic level of manufacturing that we need to keep "in house". If China floods the market with cheap, subsidized material that forces American companies to go out of business then we could be in a real bind if China gets belligerent.

And don't even get me started about their complete disregard for IP rights. They have deserved sanctions for stealing for a long time.

I am ok with Amazon putting the impact of tariffs on their web page (even if it looks like this is not happening). The consumer should know how Trump's policies will impact them. I just get tired of the double-standards for Democrats. Their economic policies are just as damaging to the average American, but the media runs cover for them.

A quick way to spot Chinese made products on items is to look for the CE logo. If the C & E are touching, it's Chinese made. If there's a space between the C & E, it's European made.

So I'm always looking for the CE that are touching and immediately registering it as Chinese.

Artorias said:

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Amazon lays it out plainly for everyone to see and we're somehow mad at Amazon?

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The issue is they are choosing to do it now but not for previous admins/situations. But you knew that.

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Exactly, President Biden kept most of President Trump's Administration's tariffs and added some.
Jeff Bezos is a political hack.

As the tariffs are negotiated and keep changing then how will they keep with the changes, or will they just pocket the reduced costs and let the public increase their profits?

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MouthBQ98 said:

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I have no problem with this. This is a very easily quantified adder and pointing it out is reasonable. We do the same with sales taxes. If the a Trump admin wants to go the tariff route then they should be open and honest about what it is and what they believe the costs and benefits are.

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MAGA: I've got no issue with short term pain. I'll pay whatever....
Also MAGA: I'd rather not have the amount of short term pain I'm having to pay waved in my face.

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I just don't buy crappy chinese stuff off Amazon to satisfy the feels, simple. People should cut that habit anyway because apparently everyone is broke.

Martin Q. Blank said:

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biden: i'm raising taxes americans pay on inflated goods
amazon: we'll just bake that into the price
biden: I didn't know you baked cakes. Thanks, Google.

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fify

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Amazon lays it out plainly for everyone to see and we're somehow mad at Amazon?

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Right? This is just silly (blaming Amazon). You can't directly tie increased costs directly related to inflation to any one single cause. But you sure can call out the (direct) cost increase of a tariff just as easily as you can calculate sales tax. There WILL be additional indirect costs you can't directly calculate as well but that's not what they are doing here - only the direct cost as a result off those tariffs. So you see less than 100% of the effect increased tariffs will cause but at least its a start.

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Not as easy as you think. Products contain parts sourced from many countries whose tariffs may be lower, higher or nonexistent. The product may be made in a country with a tariff or not but the parts may be under a tariff placed by the US or one of the over 170 countries worldwide.
This is a pathetic political stunt by Jeff Bezos and he should be called out.