Newark mayor who stormed ICE facility arrested

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El Gallo Blanco said:

Are modern western liberals the most pathetic, petulant and annoying lifeforms to ever exist on this planet?
Does a bear **** in the woods?
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MelvinUdall said:

rgvag11 said:

Accepting that the vast majority of the people detained are not violent and dangerous is progress. Next step is to realize that many are 'legal' green card holders. Then maybe move on to how they have a right to habeas corpus and due process.


Are you going to prove your assertions or just move along as if you didn't post this?

If I must.

Okay, the first assertion has been proven and accepted.

For the second, a simple google search will provide you with many results of green card holders being arrested and detained by ICE.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/05/09/metro/nh-green-card-holder-released-following-ice-detainment/
https://www.yahoo.com/news/michigan-father-green-card-holder-124624144.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAALPxdiXPsRzCk_JSvAwzVq-8nHc81atB_VLx3fpe6WtufumC6QGKOxjHOaPMxygQdK8Ii5v1dlIAXHJSEXhQYuIPSU2hG3JD4uyd3fy2pzmFYPfnhhVy-mMnAn7Ufiq6uySp4YBy13fF2SDctD0Ee5kFrKx5FwMwngja4R93-aef


For the third, take a civics class.
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So, guy had an outstanding warrant, was detained, went through judicial process, and was allowed to stay. Next.

Then, Cleona Ward, detained in Tacoma Washington. Also detained over a previous drug conviction not properly legally cleared, then had her case dismissed.

None of this is dispositive. I don't want felony drug crime or violent crime offenders with outstanding warrants allowed to come and go without any judicial process, especially those who are not US citizens.

If you're here as a guest, follow the law. If you break the law and get into legal jeopardy, don't whine about it when it isn't properly resolved quickly and you are later detained over the records.

I voted for this, absolutely.

samurai_science
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I voted for kicking them all out crimes or not. Everything else is just noise and the voters don't care.
rgvag11
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Even the green card holders the Trump administration allowed to stay?
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nortex97 said:

If you're here as a guest, follow the law. If you break the law and get into legal jeopardy, don't whine about it when it isn't properly resolved quickly and you are later detained over the records.



Is it appropriate to whine when they are scrutinizing a criminal history from a decade or more ago, including minor offenses and dismissed charges, and incarcerating these people for months at a time? Or is that still not OKAY? And if they didn't have habeas corpus then none of it could be disputed.
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
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nortex97
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rgvag11 said:

nortex97 said:

If you're here as a guest, follow the law. If you break the law and get into legal jeopardy, don't whine about it when it isn't properly resolved quickly and you are later detained over the records.
Is it appropriate to whine when they are scrutinizing a criminal history from a decade or more ago, including minor offenses and dismissed charges, and incarcerating these people for months at a time?
I am fine with CBP/customs scrutinizing criminal history, yes. The judicial system is not just a holiday inn express, or jimmy john's.

It's slow, something conservatives have often lamented the past few months, btw.

J6 gulag prisoners were treated much more harshly for years, just fyi.
rgvag11
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FWIW, we're talking about the Executive, not the Judicial branch. The Judicial branch is the branch that most people here have been complaining about for restraining the Executive branch.
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
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rgvag11 said:

FWIW, we're talking about the Executive, not the Judicial branch. The Judicial branch is the branch that most people here have been complaining about for restraining the Executive branch.
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A Michigan father and green card holder spent nearly two months detained in correctional facilities on deportation proceedings, after getting stopped by border patrol over a previous misdemeanor charge.
How again did the executive branch detain this man in a correctional facility for months pending deportation proceedings without any judicial branch involvement?

LOL. I mean, it is sad that our immigration judges are so over-worked, I agree. This is part of the reason many of us objected to flying in hundreds of thousands per year etc. on 'temporary parole' or 'catch and release.' Actions have consequences, and sometimes "Michigan Man" or "Maryland Man" pay the price.

Oh, another point of hilarity in your research fail. He was pulled over and detained before Trump was even President again.
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Kunal Oberoi's ordeal began on January 9, when he was returning with his wife and children from visiting his family in India.

An Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent pulled him aside at the Detroit Metro Airport and asked him about a 2018 charge for using marijuana.
So, his whole ordeal was entirely on Peepaw, really. Never, ever vote for a democrat.
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WAIT.

Do you think he saw a judge at the beginning of his detainment or the end?
will25u
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Immigration judges are Article II. So Executive branch.
"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

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rgvag11 said:

Why do you falsely believe that everyone at an ICE facility are dangerous people?


Over 70% of the 152 in that facility are facing deportation after being convicted of dangerous felonies.
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will25u said:

Immigration judges are Article II. So Executive branch.
I stand corrected. Thank you for the information and the style in which it was delivered.
nortex97
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will25u said:

Immigration judges are Article II. So Executive branch.
I didn't say article II vs. III. The shortage of immigration judges is deliberate. He was detained under Biden, and released under Trump. That's the hilarity. Never were his rights violated, from what we know, and it is an absurdity to cite his 2 month confinement as some sort of damning 'incident' as to Trump.
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

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will25u said:


After the January 6 Committee fiasco I hope the Republicans pull no punches.
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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rgvag11 said:

MelvinUdall said:

rgvag11 said:

Accepting that the vast majority of the people detained are not violent and dangerous is progress. Next step is to realize that many are 'legal' green card holders. Then maybe move on to how they have a right to habeas corpus and due process.


Are you going to prove your assertions or just move along as if you didn't post this?

If I must.

Okay, the first assertion has been proven and accepted.

For the second, a simple google search will provide you with many results of green card holders being arrested and detained by ICE.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/05/09/metro/nh-green-card-holder-released-following-ice-detainment/
https://www.yahoo.com/news/michigan-father-green-card-holder-124624144.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAALPxdiXPsRzCk_JSvAwzVq-8nHc81atB_VLx3fpe6WtufumC6QGKOxjHOaPMxygQdK8Ii5v1dlIAXHJSEXhQYuIPSU2hG3JD4uyd3fy2pzmFYPfnhhVy-mMnAn7Ufiq6uySp4YBy13fF2SDctD0Ee5kFrKx5FwMwngja4R93-aef


For the third, take a civics class.


Yes, you must…you made the claim it is up to you provide the backup of your claim, it is not my responsibility to prove your post.
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FlyRod said:

The Reps were engaged in something called "oversight," which is part of their job functions.

I'm sorry you failed high school civics.


Everyday there is a nugget of false gold that either a AI BOT or just a paid hack has produced. There is no way this take is from an ave joe, neighbor next door democrat because normal democrat's would even have the creative means to make such a claim.


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FCBlitz said:

FlyRod said:

The Reps were engaged in something called "oversight," which is part of their job functions.

I'm sorry you failed high school civics.


Everyday there is a nugget of false gold that either a AI BOT or just a paid hack has produced. There is no way this take is from an ave joe, neighbor next door democrat because normal democrat's would even have the creative means to make such a claim.



Nope. Flyrod has been posting here for years, before AI was a thing.
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
The D
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will25u said:




She needs to be removed from stuffing food down her throat
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FCBlitz said:

FlyRod said:

The Reps were engaged in something called "oversight," which is part of their job functions.

I'm sorry you failed high school civics.


Everyday there is a nugget of false gold that either a AI BOT or just a paid hack has produced. There is no way this take is from an ave joe, neighbor next door democrat because normal democrat's would even have the creative means to make such a claim.





Everyday we read a series of drive by posts like this one where it's obvious you're so informed and intelligent you ignore the topic and attack the poster. True virtuoso display of virtue signaling.
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Yeah, let's go after public officials that don't think the way that I do!

This will surely not be used against me when the other party is in power!
samurai_science
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Committed insurrection so they should be removed
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FlyRod said:

The Reps were engaged in something called "oversight," which is part of their job functions.

I'm sorry you failed high school civics.


Well there is precedent from July 2021...

"Gaetz, Greene and Gohmert turned away from jail to visit Jan. 6 defendants"

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/565562-gop-reps-gaetz-green-and-gohmert-turned-away-from-jail-to-visit-jan-6/
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Trajan88 said:

FlyRod said:

The Reps were engaged in something called "oversight," which is part of their job functions.

I'm sorry you failed high school civics.


Well there is precedent from July 2021...

"Gaetz, Greene and Gohmert turned away from jail to visit Jan. 6 defendants"

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/565562-gop-reps-gaetz-green-and-gohmert-turned-away-from-jail-to-visit-jan-6/



Yeah, but this issue is really important to people on blue sky and Reddit
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Wyoming Aggie said:

Yeah, let's go after public officials that don't think the way that I do!

This will surely not be used against me when the other party is in power!

Go after them? You're joking right?
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will25u said:




Lololol
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Wyoming Aggie said:

Yeah, let's go after public officials that don't think the way that I do!

This will surely not be used against me when the other party is in power!


How about public officials that trespass and assault law enforcement? You remember when Mar A Lago was raided? I do.
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nortex97
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Newark mayor compares himself to…King David. Seriously.

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The entire Democrat performative theater at the Newark ICE facility was a disgrace, and these agitators should face consequences for their attempts to incite violence and chaos. For this mayor to compare himself to a legendary King of Israel is bordering on the ludicrousnot to mention, it's deeply insulting to manyand highlights just how egotistical and unserious so many of these folks have become.

"The View" and "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert" will likely invite him on their shows ASAP. That tells you all you need to know.

The King:

But Trump posting a meme of himself in a papal outfit was offensive to "Catholic democrats."
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Wyoming Aggie said:

Yeah, let's go after public officials that don't think the way that I do!

This will surely not be used against me when the other party is in power!


What are you babbling about?

Good grief.
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