Rapier108 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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nortex97 said:

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Don't forget Federal inmate 'gold bar Bob' Menendez' son was also there (and I think arrested).

I wonder if you can get a cell with your dad, THE THIEF!

— emil throckmore III (@emilthrockmore) May 10, 2025

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I actually agree that a sitting US Senator should have the right to oversight (without hindrance) of any United States facility world wide at any time unannounced.

Or we should elect a group of tribunes that all hell breaks loose if they don't get whatever they ask for or are blocked from any type of over sight.

I think it keeps everyone honest because they would always be willing to burn the opposition.

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So a US Senator or Representative should be allowed to walk into any area, anytime no matter the security requirements?

Walk into Los Alamos an enter the vault where all of the nuclear weapons designs are stored?

Walk into an ICBM control bunker?

Walk into ADX Florence?

Walk into Area 51?

There are places that few people should be allowed to go, and many others that should only be accessed because of the security arrangements that need to be made before a tour can be conducted.

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Yes, absolutely. If there are national security concerns, obviously those must be followed.

The senators are the representatives of the people in the government. The government should not be able to tell its representatives where they can go and where they cannot go.

If they abuse that position or do anything illegal, then they should be punished for that like everyone else

CrackerJackAg said:

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Rapier108 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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nortex97 said:

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Don't forget Federal inmate 'gold bar Bob' Menendez' son was also there (and I think arrested).

I wonder if you can get a cell with your dad, THE THIEF!

— emil throckmore III (@emilthrockmore) May 10, 2025

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I actually agree that a sitting US Senator should have the right to oversight (without hindrance) of any United States facility world wide at any time unannounced.

Or we should elect a group of tribunes that all hell breaks loose if they don't get whatever they ask for or are blocked from any type of over sight.

I think it keeps everyone honest because they would always be willing to burn the opposition.

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So a US Senator or Representative should be allowed to walk into any area, anytime no matter the security requirements?

Walk into Los Alamos an enter the vault where all of the nuclear weapons designs are stored?

Walk into an ICBM control bunker?

Walk into ADX Florence?

Walk into Area 51?

There are places that few people should be allowed to go, and many others that should only be accessed because of the security arrangements that need to be made before a tour can be conducted.

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Yes, absolutely. If there are national security concerns, obviously those must be followed.

The senators are the representatives of the people in the government. The government should not be able to tell its representatives where they can go and where they cannot go.

If they abuse that position or do anything illegal, then they should be punished for that like everyone else

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No, absolutely not.

There has to be procedures, especially, MOST ESPECIALLY, for maximum-security prison. I'm sorry, but Senators and Congressmen should have to make arrangements, otherwise you have unnecessary chaos and disorder.

Tramp96 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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Rapier108 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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nortex97 said:

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Don't forget Federal inmate 'gold bar Bob' Menendez' son was also there (and I think arrested).

I wonder if you can get a cell with your dad, THE THIEF!

— emil throckmore III (@emilthrockmore) May 10, 2025

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I actually agree that a sitting US Senator should have the right to oversight (without hindrance) of any United States facility world wide at any time unannounced.

Or we should elect a group of tribunes that all hell breaks loose if they don't get whatever they ask for or are blocked from any type of over sight.

I think it keeps everyone honest because they would always be willing to burn the opposition.

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So a US Senator or Representative should be allowed to walk into any area, anytime no matter the security requirements?

Walk into Los Alamos an enter the vault where all of the nuclear weapons designs are stored?

Walk into an ICBM control bunker?

Walk into ADX Florence?

Walk into Area 51?

There are places that few people should be allowed to go, and many others that should only be accessed because of the security arrangements that need to be made before a tour can be conducted.

---

Yes, absolutely. If there are national security concerns, obviously those must be followed.

The senators are the representatives of the people in the government. The government should not be able to tell its representatives where they can go and where they cannot go.

If they abuse that position or do anything illegal, then they should be punished for that like everyone else

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No, absolutely not.

There has to be procedures, especially, MOST ESPECIALLY, for maximum-security prison. I'm sorry, but Senators and Congressmen should have to make arrangements, otherwise you have unnecessary chaos and disorder.

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We agree to disagree then. You like big government rules and red tape. I want it wide open (obvious national security aspects addressed) all the time. No hiding. No red tape.

Why the **** should a maximum-security be present be off limits to a senator?

Hundreds of employees and contractors walk through there every day

CrackerJackAg said:

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Tramp96 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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Rapier108 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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nortex97 said:

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Don't forget Federal inmate 'gold bar Bob' Menendez' son was also there (and I think arrested).

I wonder if you can get a cell with your dad, THE THIEF!

— emil throckmore III (@emilthrockmore) May 10, 2025

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I actually agree that a sitting US Senator should have the right to oversight (without hindrance) of any United States facility world wide at any time unannounced.

Or we should elect a group of tribunes that all hell breaks loose if they don't get whatever they ask for or are blocked from any type of over sight.

I think it keeps everyone honest because they would always be willing to burn the opposition.

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So a US Senator or Representative should be allowed to walk into any area, anytime no matter the security requirements?

Walk into Los Alamos an enter the vault where all of the nuclear weapons designs are stored?

Walk into an ICBM control bunker?

Walk into ADX Florence?

Walk into Area 51?

There are places that few people should be allowed to go, and many others that should only be accessed because of the security arrangements that need to be made before a tour can be conducted.

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Yes, absolutely. If there are national security concerns, obviously those must be followed.

The senators are the representatives of the people in the government. The government should not be able to tell its representatives where they can go and where they cannot go.

If they abuse that position or do anything illegal, then they should be punished for that like everyone else

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No, absolutely not.

There has to be procedures, especially, MOST ESPECIALLY, for maximum-security prison. I'm sorry, but Senators and Congressmen should have to make arrangements, otherwise you have unnecessary chaos and disorder.

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We agree to disagree then. You like big government rules and red tape. I want it wide open (obvious national security aspects addressed) all the time. No hiding. No red tape.

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So, chaos.

techno-ag said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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Tramp96 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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Rapier108 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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nortex97 said:

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Don't forget Federal inmate 'gold bar Bob' Menendez' son was also there (and I think arrested).

I wonder if you can get a cell with your dad, THE THIEF!

— emil throckmore III (@emilthrockmore) May 10, 2025

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I actually agree that a sitting US Senator should have the right to oversight (without hindrance) of any United States facility world wide at any time unannounced.

Or we should elect a group of tribunes that all hell breaks loose if they don't get whatever they ask for or are blocked from any type of over sight.

I think it keeps everyone honest because they would always be willing to burn the opposition.

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So a US Senator or Representative should be allowed to walk into any area, anytime no matter the security requirements?

Walk into Los Alamos an enter the vault where all of the nuclear weapons designs are stored?

Walk into an ICBM control bunker?

Walk into ADX Florence?

Walk into Area 51?

There are places that few people should be allowed to go, and many others that should only be accessed because of the security arrangements that need to be made before a tour can be conducted.

---

Yes, absolutely. If there are national security concerns, obviously those must be followed.

The senators are the representatives of the people in the government. The government should not be able to tell its representatives where they can go and where they cannot go.

If they abuse that position or do anything illegal, then they should be punished for that like everyone else

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No, absolutely not.

There has to be procedures, especially, MOST ESPECIALLY, for maximum-security prison. I'm sorry, but Senators and Congressmen should have to make arrangements, otherwise you have unnecessary chaos and disorder.

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We agree to disagree then. You like big government rules and red tape. I want it wide open (obvious national security aspects addressed) all the time. No hiding. No red tape.

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So, chaos.

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I noticed liberals, globalists, the media and the like always say there will be massive chaos if they don't get their way. Never really seems to pan out that way.

CrackerJackAg said:

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Rapier108 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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nortex97 said:

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Don't forget Federal inmate 'gold bar Bob' Menendez' son was also there (and I think arrested).

I wonder if you can get a cell with your dad, THE THIEF!

— emil throckmore III (@emilthrockmore) May 10, 2025

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I actually agree that a sitting US Senator should have the right to oversight (without hindrance) of any United States facility world wide at any time unannounced.

Or we should elect a group of tribunes that all hell breaks loose if they don't get whatever they ask for or are blocked from any type of over sight.

I think it keeps everyone honest because they would always be willing to burn the opposition.

---

So a US Senator or Representative should be allowed to walk into any area, anytime no matter the security requirements?

Walk into Los Alamos an enter the vault where all of the nuclear weapons designs are stored?

Walk into an ICBM control bunker?

Walk into ADX Florence?

Walk into Area 51?

There are places that few people should be allowed to go, and many others that should only be accessed because of the security arrangements that need to be made before a tour can be conducted.

---

Yes, absolutely. If there are national security concerns, obviously those must be followed.

The senators are the representatives of the people in the government. The government should not be able to tell its representatives where they can go and where they cannot go.

If they abuse that position or do anything illegal, then they should be punished for that like everyone else

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The problem with just walking in unannounced everywhere is that just doesn't work.

If you want to walk into a prison and they happened to be on lockdown for some reason you aren't getting in. Or at least getting past the initial gate.

If there is a lockdown at a facility like Pantex or Oak Ridge because of an unsafe issue you aren't going in.

You can come up unannounced. That's what oversight is all about. But there are times and places you might not get in. And you can't get snippy about it. It's just reality.

CrackerJackAg said:

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techno-ag said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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Tramp96 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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Rapier108 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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nortex97 said:

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Don't forget Federal inmate 'gold bar Bob' Menendez' son was also there (and I think arrested).

I wonder if you can get a cell with your dad, THE THIEF!

— emil throckmore III (@emilthrockmore) May 10, 2025

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I actually agree that a sitting US Senator should have the right to oversight (without hindrance) of any United States facility world wide at any time unannounced.

Or we should elect a group of tribunes that all hell breaks loose if they don't get whatever they ask for or are blocked from any type of over sight.

I think it keeps everyone honest because they would always be willing to burn the opposition.

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So a US Senator or Representative should be allowed to walk into any area, anytime no matter the security requirements?

Walk into Los Alamos an enter the vault where all of the nuclear weapons designs are stored?

Walk into an ICBM control bunker?

Walk into ADX Florence?

Walk into Area 51?

There are places that few people should be allowed to go, and many others that should only be accessed because of the security arrangements that need to be made before a tour can be conducted.

---

Yes, absolutely. If there are national security concerns, obviously those must be followed.

The senators are the representatives of the people in the government. The government should not be able to tell its representatives where they can go and where they cannot go.

If they abuse that position or do anything illegal, then they should be punished for that like everyone else

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No, absolutely not.

There has to be procedures, especially, MOST ESPECIALLY, for maximum-security prison. I'm sorry, but Senators and Congressmen should have to make arrangements, otherwise you have unnecessary chaos and disorder.

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We agree to disagree then. You like big government rules and red tape. I want it wide open (obvious national security aspects addressed) all the time. No hiding. No red tape.

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So, chaos.

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I noticed liberals, globalists, the media and the like always say there will be massive chaos if they don't get their way. Never really seems to pan out that way.

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You're right. It doesn't work that way because they have to follow the rules everyone else does.

I think you're starting to figure it out.

CrackerJackAg said:

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techno-ag said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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Tramp96 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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Rapier108 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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nortex97 said:

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Don't forget Federal inmate 'gold bar Bob' Menendez' son was also there (and I think arrested).

I wonder if you can get a cell with your dad, THE THIEF!

— emil throckmore III (@emilthrockmore) May 10, 2025

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I actually agree that a sitting US Senator should have the right to oversight (without hindrance) of any United States facility world wide at any time unannounced.

Or we should elect a group of tribunes that all hell breaks loose if they don't get whatever they ask for or are blocked from any type of over sight.

I think it keeps everyone honest because they would always be willing to burn the opposition.

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So a US Senator or Representative should be allowed to walk into any area, anytime no matter the security requirements?

Walk into Los Alamos an enter the vault where all of the nuclear weapons designs are stored?

Walk into an ICBM control bunker?

Walk into ADX Florence?

Walk into Area 51?

There are places that few people should be allowed to go, and many others that should only be accessed because of the security arrangements that need to be made before a tour can be conducted.

---

Yes, absolutely. If there are national security concerns, obviously those must be followed.

The senators are the representatives of the people in the government. The government should not be able to tell its representatives where they can go and where they cannot go.

If they abuse that position or do anything illegal, then they should be punished for that like everyone else

---

No, absolutely not.

There has to be procedures, especially, MOST ESPECIALLY, for maximum-security prison. I'm sorry, but Senators and Congressmen should have to make arrangements, otherwise you have unnecessary chaos and disorder.

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We agree to disagree then. You like big government rules and red tape. I want it wide open (obvious national security aspects addressed) all the time. No hiding. No red tape.

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So, chaos.

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I noticed liberals, globalists, the media and the like always say there will be massive chaos if they don't get their way. Never really seems to pan out that way.

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None of their predictions come true

Ludicrous.

CrackerJackAg said:

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Tramp96 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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Rapier108 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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nortex97 said:

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Don't forget Federal inmate 'gold bar Bob' Menendez' son was also there (and I think arrested).

I wonder if you can get a cell with your dad, THE THIEF!

— emil throckmore III (@emilthrockmore) May 10, 2025

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I actually agree that a sitting US Senator should have the right to oversight (without hindrance) of any United States facility world wide at any time unannounced.

Or we should elect a group of tribunes that all hell breaks loose if they don't get whatever they ask for or are blocked from any type of over sight.

I think it keeps everyone honest because they would always be willing to burn the opposition.

---

So a US Senator or Representative should be allowed to walk into any area, anytime no matter the security requirements?

Walk into Los Alamos an enter the vault where all of the nuclear weapons designs are stored?

Walk into an ICBM control bunker?

Walk into ADX Florence?

Walk into Area 51?

There are places that few people should be allowed to go, and many others that should only be accessed because of the security arrangements that need to be made before a tour can be conducted.

---

Yes, absolutely. If there are national security concerns, obviously those must be followed.

The senators are the representatives of the people in the government. The government should not be able to tell its representatives where they can go and where they cannot go.

If they abuse that position or do anything illegal, then they should be punished for that like everyone else

---

No, absolutely not.

There has to be procedures, especially, MOST ESPECIALLY, for maximum-security prison. I'm sorry, but Senators and Congressmen should have to make arrangements, otherwise you have unnecessary chaos and disorder.

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We agree to disagree then. You like big government rules and red tape. I want it wide open (obvious national security aspects addressed) all the time. No hiding. No red tape.

Why the **** should a maximum-security be present be off limits to a senator?

Hundreds of employees and contractors walk through there every day

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Completely unnecessary ad hominem. I don't like government red tape, and that's an absurd conclusion on your part.

But we have to have some semblance of procedural order so that all of those involved can do their job properly. I don't consider a phone call as government red tape.

Also, for the safety of all involved, there have to be limitations on entry. They don't get unfettered access. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind AOC and her gang to be fed to the wolves in maximum security lockdown, or to get too much exposure from some uranium, but for their own safety, and the safety of the staff at these institutions, you absolutely must have procedures and restrictions.

It's basic common sense.

No one has sufficient staffing just sitting around to entertain unknown visitors. There is a reasonable notice period required to shift staff from doing actual work to escorting around visitors.

That isn't bureaucracy. That is normal management.

techno-ag said:

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Tramp96 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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Tramp96 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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Rapier108 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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nortex97 said:

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Don't forget Federal inmate 'gold bar Bob' Menendez' son was also there (and I think arrested).

I wonder if you can get a cell with your dad, THE THIEF!

— emil throckmore III (@emilthrockmore) May 10, 2025

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I actually agree that a sitting US Senator should have the right to oversight (without hindrance) of any United States facility world wide at any time unannounced.

Or we should elect a group of tribunes that all hell breaks loose if they don't get whatever they ask for or are blocked from any type of over sight.

I think it keeps everyone honest because they would always be willing to burn the opposition.

---

So a US Senator or Representative should be allowed to walk into any area, anytime no matter the security requirements?

Walk into Los Alamos an enter the vault where all of the nuclear weapons designs are stored?

Walk into an ICBM control bunker?

Walk into ADX Florence?

Walk into Area 51?

There are places that few people should be allowed to go, and many others that should only be accessed because of the security arrangements that need to be made before a tour can be conducted.

---

Yes, absolutely. If there are national security concerns, obviously those must be followed.

The senators are the representatives of the people in the government. The government should not be able to tell its representatives where they can go and where they cannot go.

If they abuse that position or do anything illegal, then they should be punished for that like everyone else

---

No, absolutely not.

There has to be procedures, especially, MOST ESPECIALLY, for maximum-security prison. I'm sorry, but Senators and Congressmen should have to make arrangements, otherwise you have unnecessary chaos and disorder.

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We agree to disagree then. You like big government rules and red tape. I want it wide open (obvious national security aspects addressed) all the time. No hiding. No red tape.

Why the should a maximum-security be present be off limits to a senator?

Hundreds of employees and contractors walk through there every day

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Completely unnecessary ad hominem. I don't like government red tape, and that's an absurd conclusion on your part.

But we have to have some semblance of procedural order so that all of those involved can do their job properly. I don't consider a phone call as government red tape.

Also, for the safety of all involved, there have to be limitations on entry. They don't get unfettered access. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind AOC and her gang to be fed to the wolves in maximum security lockdown, or to get too much exposure from some uranium, but for their own safety, and the safety of the staff at these institutions, you absolutely must have procedures and restrictions.

It's basic common sense.

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Crackerjack believes anybody should be able to ride along on Air Force One. No hiding, no red tape, just climb on board with the President. Why should it be off limits to anyone? Why should there be rules and procedures in place?

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Obviously not everyone. It's why I kind of floated the "Tribune" idea.

I understand right now you guys are all for this **** because there's a Republican in the White House and they are getting rid of all the people you guys don't like
(i'm currently all for getting rid of the guys I don't like being here right now and this is what I voted for)

What happens when the government starts getting rid of guys you do like and there's no oversight

What about facilities that the government claims for one purpose but people suspect it's for another

No one has a right to go look unannounced

The government can just be like yo give us a few days to get our **** in order and make it all cozy & correct and then you can come over

You guys have way more faith in the government than I do

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Take the L and move on.

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It's not a loss as I don't know any of you. Most people are ******ed.

It's just my opinion and whether or not you agree or disagree really isn't the point. It's just a conversation.

In principle, unannounced unfettered and immediate access is a great idea from an accountability and political prospective at a high level as both parties have had their share of showmanship and using the known hurdles to access for their own purposes.

It unfortunately does not play out well logistically on the ground as anyone that has their livelihood tied to securing a sensitive site will auto deny and report anything out of the ordinary. The assumption that any random guard knows what any politician looks like / etc. is not realistic and these guys need to be leaning into the threat environment, not starting a long game of validation if someone decides to show up, make a show and operate outside of procedures.

If there is garbage going on, and they really wanted to find out, it won't be cleaned up that fast, and will leave a paper trail documenting as such. The only difference is that the unannounced visit is more often for the 5 seconds of political fame vs actual accountability.

Alina Habba is so ****ing hot

the most cool guy said:

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Alina Habba is so ****ing hot

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So, Habba Hubba…?

CrackerJackAg said:

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Tramp96 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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Rapier108 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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nortex97 said:

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Don't forget Federal inmate 'gold bar Bob' Menendez' son was also there (and I think arrested).

I wonder if you can get a cell with your dad, THE THIEF!

— emil throckmore III (@emilthrockmore) May 10, 2025

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I actually agree that a sitting US Senator should have the right to oversight (without hindrance) of any United States facility world wide at any time unannounced.

Or we should elect a group of tribunes that all hell breaks loose if they don't get whatever they ask for or are blocked from any type of over sight.

I think it keeps everyone honest because they would always be willing to burn the opposition.

---

So a US Senator or Representative should be allowed to walk into any area, anytime no matter the security requirements?

Walk into Los Alamos an enter the vault where all of the nuclear weapons designs are stored?

Walk into an ICBM control bunker?

Walk into ADX Florence?

Walk into Area 51?

There are places that few people should be allowed to go, and many others that should only be accessed because of the security arrangements that need to be made before a tour can be conducted.

---

Yes, absolutely. If there are national security concerns, obviously those must be followed.

The senators are the representatives of the people in the government. The government should not be able to tell its representatives where they can go and where they cannot go.

If they abuse that position or do anything illegal, then they should be punished for that like everyone else

---

No, absolutely not.

There has to be procedures, especially, MOST ESPECIALLY, for maximum-security prison. I'm sorry, but Senators and Congressmen should have to make arrangements, otherwise you have unnecessary chaos and disorder.

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We agree to disagree then. You like big government rules and red tape. I want it wide open (obvious national security aspects addressed) all the time. No hiding. No red tape.

Why the **** should a maximum-security be present be off limits to a senator?

Hundreds of employees and contractors walk through there every day

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Your take is extremely naive and ignorant. Even FBI and other Justice personnel can't just show up at a prison and demand entrance without an appointment.

BTKAG97 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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Tramp96 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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Rapier108 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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nortex97 said:

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Don't forget Federal inmate 'gold bar Bob' Menendez' son was also there (and I think arrested).

I wonder if you can get a cell with your dad, THE THIEF!

— emil throckmore III (@emilthrockmore) May 10, 2025

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I actually agree that a sitting US Senator should have the right to oversight (without hindrance) of any United States facility world wide at any time unannounced.

Or we should elect a group of tribunes that all hell breaks loose if they don't get whatever they ask for or are blocked from any type of over sight.

I think it keeps everyone honest because they would always be willing to burn the opposition.

---

So a US Senator or Representative should be allowed to walk into any area, anytime no matter the security requirements?

Walk into Los Alamos an enter the vault where all of the nuclear weapons designs are stored?

Walk into an ICBM control bunker?

Walk into ADX Florence?

Walk into Area 51?

There are places that few people should be allowed to go, and many others that should only be accessed because of the security arrangements that need to be made before a tour can be conducted.

---

Yes, absolutely. If there are national security concerns, obviously those must be followed.

The senators are the representatives of the people in the government. The government should not be able to tell its representatives where they can go and where they cannot go.

If they abuse that position or do anything illegal, then they should be punished for that like everyone else

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No, absolutely not.

There has to be procedures, especially, MOST ESPECIALLY, for maximum-security prison. I'm sorry, but Senators and Congressmen should have to make arrangements, otherwise you have unnecessary chaos and disorder.

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We agree to disagree then. You like big government rules and red tape. I want it wide open (obvious national security aspects addressed) all the time. No hiding. No red tape.

Why the **** should a maximum-security be present be off limits to a senator?

Hundreds of employees and contractors walk through there every day

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Your take is extremely naive and ignorant. Even FBI and other Justice personnel can't just show up at a prison and demand entrance without an appointment.

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Dude that was like a week ago. I could have changed my mind by now.

🚨 BREAKING: Rep. LaMonica McIver's criminal case for impeding and interfering with federal law enforcement has just been assigned to a Biden judge, Jamel K. Semper - POLITICO pic.twitter.com/MvKw3vfyJZ

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) June 11, 2025

CrackerJackAg said:

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BTKAG97 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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Tramp96 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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Rapier108 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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nortex97 said:

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Don't forget Federal inmate 'gold bar Bob' Menendez' son was also there (and I think arrested).

I wonder if you can get a cell with your dad, THE THIEF!

— emil throckmore III (@emilthrockmore) May 10, 2025

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I actually agree that a sitting US Senator should have the right to oversight (without hindrance) of any United States facility world wide at any time unannounced.

Or we should elect a group of tribunes that all hell breaks loose if they don't get whatever they ask for or are blocked from any type of over sight.

I think it keeps everyone honest because they would always be willing to burn the opposition.

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So a US Senator or Representative should be allowed to walk into any area, anytime no matter the security requirements?

Walk into Los Alamos an enter the vault where all of the nuclear weapons designs are stored?

Walk into an ICBM control bunker?

Walk into ADX Florence?

Walk into Area 51?

There are places that few people should be allowed to go, and many others that should only be accessed because of the security arrangements that need to be made before a tour can be conducted.

---

Yes, absolutely. If there are national security concerns, obviously those must be followed.

The senators are the representatives of the people in the government. The government should not be able to tell its representatives where they can go and where they cannot go.

If they abuse that position or do anything illegal, then they should be punished for that like everyone else

---

No, absolutely not.

There has to be procedures, especially, MOST ESPECIALLY, for maximum-security prison. I'm sorry, but Senators and Congressmen should have to make arrangements, otherwise you have unnecessary chaos and disorder.

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We agree to disagree then. You like big government rules and red tape. I want it wide open (obvious national security aspects addressed) all the time. No hiding. No red tape.

Why the **** should a maximum-security be present be off limits to a senator?

Hundreds of employees and contractors walk through there every day

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Your take is extremely naive and ignorant. Even FBI and other Justice personnel can't just show up at a prison and demand entrance without an appointment.

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Dude that was like a week ago. I could have changed my mind by now.

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Wait, are you my wife?

will25u said:

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🚨 BREAKING: Rep. LaMonica McIver's criminal case for impeding and interfering with federal law enforcement has just been assigned to a Biden judge, Jamel K. Semper - POLITICO pic.twitter.com/MvKw3vfyJZ

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) June 11, 2025

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Of course.

He'll toss it in short order, for "reasons."

It's spreading.

🚨BREAKING: ICE has arrested NYC mayoral candidate Brad Lander for interfering with their operations.

pic.twitter.com/jjeVtVhXoH

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) June 17, 2025

Based off this video, this is pretty blatant interference w/ ICE by Landers. You can see him locking arms w/ ICE's target, and he refuses to let go, saying he wants to see a judicial warrant first. ICE does not need a judicial warrant to make an arrest, nor would they have to… https://t.co/c3chuAS6YA

— Bill Melugin (@BillMelugin_) June 17, 2025

bobbranco said:

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Prosperdick said:

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I can't imagine their internal polling shows this as a winning issue for them so I have no idea why they're doing this but I certainly hope they continue!!

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My opinion is this issue, and all the degenerate and anti-American ideas pushed by the left, poll quite well within the radical factions. They only listen to the radical factions. That's a good thing. Democrats, feel the Bern, feel the Bern.

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This goes both ways. Both sides tailor their stance around either extreme.

I can't imagine deporting every single solid immigrant worker in the country polls very well either. Most likely the reason Trump has softened his stance.

BREAKING: Democrat NY Governor Kathy Hochul admits she had all charges dropped against Comptroller Brad Lander following his arrest today for assaulting ICE Agents.

This gives Leftists a green light to attack ICE. pic.twitter.com/hwrrBPaTJJ

— Dapper Detective (@Dapper_Det) June 17, 2025

SeaAg010607 said:

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In principle, unannounced unfettered and immediate access is a great idea from an accountability and political prospective at a high level as both parties have had their share of showmanship and using the known hurdles to access for their own purposes.

It unfortunately does not play out well logistically on the ground as anyone that has their livelihood tied to securing a sensitive site will auto deny and report anything out of the ordinary. The assumption that any random guard knows what any politician looks like / etc. is not realistic and these guys need to be leaning into the threat environment, not starting a long game of validation if someone decides to show up, make a show and operate outside of procedures.

If there is garbage going on, and they really wanted to find out, it won't be cleaned up that fast, and will leave a paper trail documenting as such. The only difference is that the unannounced visit is more often for the 5 seconds of political fame vs actual accountability.

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You points are valid under normal circumstances.

However, IMO the Dems have proven over and over and over again they are merely looking for something, anything to win folks over. These illegals, like the LGBTABCs, blacks, you name it identity group are only being used for political purposes and as well to Resist!!!!! orange-man policies every single step of the way. They would march in the streets if Trump announced his team found the cure for cancer.

IMO their cover is completely blown and they are frauds through and through. They are looking for 'live action' advertising material - with them in it. Just like the idiot Senator trying to crash the presser, and Maxine at the (wherever she was).

Besides, the "do you know who I am??" BS isn't impressing too many people any more, rather the opposite.

t - cam said:

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bobbranco said:

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Prosperdick said:

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I can't imagine their internal polling shows this as a winning issue for them so I have no idea why they're doing this but I certainly hope they continue!!

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My opinion is this issue, and all the degenerate and anti-American ideas pushed by the left, poll quite well within the radical factions. They only listen to the radical factions. That's a good thing. Democrats, feel the Bern, feel the Bern.

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This goes both ways. Both sides tailor their stance around either extreme.

I can't imagine deporting every single solid immigrant worker in the country polls very well either. Most likely the reason Trump has softened his stance.

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Deporting people that are here illegally is not an extreme position.

It is just the law of the land.

And . . . The law of every other country in the world.

lol this is how you act when you think there are no consequences. No different than the rioters.

Break the law, get charged with a crime. It's simple.

Just because someone is elected to govern does not mean they have immunity.

Rocky Rider said:

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Break the law, get charged with a crime. Get let go by the corrupt DA if you're a Dem. It's simple.

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FIFY.

Rocky Rider said:

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Break the law, get charged with a crime. It's simple.

Just because someone is elected to govern does not mean they have immunity.

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Our current president isn't worried about law, why should anyone else?