Quo Vadis? said:

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Queso1 said:

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Teslag said:

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Queso1 said:

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Teslag said:

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Yukon Cornelius said:

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It's not. Equating bombing another country to some stupid Disney movie where everyone dies on the Death Star is childish at best.

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He's highlighting at how it was a stupid irrelevant question

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Bull crap. Cruz made a career of cross examining people. He finally got a taste of his own BS and he couldn't hack it.

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Cruz made a career out of asking pertinent relevant questions.

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Well, I believe asking whether his politics are influenced by the the State of Israeli lobby are pertinent and relevant. I also think asking him why we have 100s of billions to send around the world, but we are falling apart at home is pertinent and relevant.

Safe, free and effective!

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You aren't allowed to ask those kinds of questions. We have no responsibility and can't afford to provide kids free to them breakfast or lunch at school because it's their parents responsibility to feed them, however we are absolutely supposed to defend Israel and Ukraine because it's our responsibility to defend them……somehow.

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Such a stupid straw man.

I like Ted, but if you're going to use scripture for an answer like that you better know what you're referring to. I don't think Cruz is a 'Give a blank check to Israel' type, but that answer kind of comes off that way.

But the Death Star meme was a great response, because that was a ridiculous 'gotcha' question from Tucker.

I get Tucker's big picture point. No, we shouldn't blindly support any ally or assume we should go to war just because something is happening across the world. But he's being way too snarky in his approach in the spats with Levin and Cruz. He's not helping his cause. I can understand the side that thinks we should constantly question what our govt tells us and not be so quick to jump into wars. I also understand it's not a black and white issue though.

The present version of Israel, formed in 1948, is not the Israel that the Bible describes. I don't know why that's such a hard distinction for people to make. They're not the same thing at all.

Candace Owens on 24 hour watch....

LMCane said:

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Candace Owens is full on stupid. 24 hour watch....

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fify

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Gig em G said:

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Bibi has been saying Iran is 3-5 years away from developing a nuclear weapon for 33 years. That's not hyperbole either.

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post the video evidence

of Bibi Netanyahu in 1992 (when he was simply a Member of the Israeli Parliament) stating that Iran was 3 years away from having a nuclear bomb.

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There are other articles about it too

Keyno said:

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Tucker: "so what does AIPAC lobby for?"
Cruz: "well nothing really"

Damn that was so ridiculous

Cruz: "I came to congress to be the leading protector of Israel"

Well yeah there you have it. At least he admits it

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Tucker was completely full of **** during that segment. As Cruz said, AIPAC does not lobby on the behalf of the Israeli government. They are an interest group that advocates for strong U.S.-Israel relations, and really have a very limited scope of influence.

The reason Tucker immediately pulled out the antisemitism defense is because he knows he's being an antisemite. "Just asking questions" about those subversive Jews, though.

Tucker has basically become the Skip Bayless of politics

Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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Tucker: "so what does AIPAC lobby for?"
Cruz: "well nothing really"

Damn that was so ridiculous

Cruz: "I came to congress to be the leading protector of Israel"

Well yeah there you have it. At least he admits it

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Tucker was completely full of **** during that segment. As Cruz said, AIPAC does not lobby on the behalf of the Israeli government. They are an interest group that advocates for strong U.S.-Israel relations, and really have a very limited scope of influence.

The reason Tucker immediately pulled out the antisemitism defense is because he knows he's being an antisemite. "Just asking questions" about those subversive Jews, though.

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Disagreed. He pressed Cruz hard on the obvious nature of AIPAC being a foreign lobbying group and Cruz was clearly squirming about it.

AIPAC was literally founded by an Israeli lobbyist as a branch of the American Zionist Council. AZC eventually dissolved as it was forced to register as a foreign lobbyist group, and AIPAC has effectively filled this role since then. The claim they have limited scope of influence is so absurd I'm not even sure how to respond. They run basically the entire GOP besides Thomas Massie and maybe one or two others.

Keyno said:

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Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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Tucker: "so what does AIPAC lobby for?"
Cruz: "well nothing really"

Damn that was so ridiculous

Cruz: "I came to congress to be the leading protector of Israel"

Well yeah there you have it. At least he admits it

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Tucker was completely full of **** during that segment. As Cruz said, AIPAC does not lobby on the behalf of the Israeli government. They are an interest group that advocates for strong U.S.-Israel relations, and really have a very limited scope of influence.

The reason Tucker immediately pulled out the antisemitism defense is because he knows he's being an antisemite. "Just asking questions" about those subversive Jews, though.

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Disagreed. He pressed Cruz hard on the obvious nature of AIPAC being a foreign lobbying group and Cruz was clearly squirming about it.

AIPAC was literally founded by an Israeli lobbyist as a branch of the American Zionist Council. AZC eventually dissolved as it was forced to register as a foreign lobbyist group, and AIPAC has effectively filled this role since then. The claim they have limited scope of influence is so absurd I'm not even sure how to respond. They run basically the entire GOP besides Thomas Massie and maybe one or two others.

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So Israel needs to disarm and "The Jews" run the GOP... I'm pretty sure we have your position down now.

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Keyno said:

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Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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Tucker: "so what does AIPAC lobby for?"
Cruz: "well nothing really"

Damn that was so ridiculous

Cruz: "I came to congress to be the leading protector of Israel"

Well yeah there you have it. At least he admits it

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Tucker was completely full of **** during that segment. As Cruz said, AIPAC does not lobby on the behalf of the Israeli government. They are an interest group that advocates for strong U.S.-Israel relations, and really have a very limited scope of influence.

The reason Tucker immediately pulled out the antisemitism defense is because he knows he's being an antisemite. "Just asking questions" about those subversive Jews, though.

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Disagreed. He pressed Cruz hard on the obvious nature of AIPAC being a foreign lobbying group and Cruz was clearly squirming about it.

AIPAC was literally founded by an Israeli lobbyist as a branch of the American Zionist Council. AZC eventually dissolved as it was forced to register as a foreign lobbyist group, and AIPAC has effectively filled this role since then. The claim they have limited scope of influence is so absurd I'm not even sure how to respond. They run basically the entire GOP besides Thomas Massie and maybe one or two others.

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So Israel needs to disarm and "The Jews" run the GOP... I'm pretty sure we have your position down now.

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The internet is an amazing thing. It literally takes 2 seconds to find out who takes money from AIPAC and how much.

Keyno said:

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Phatbob said:

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Keyno said:

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Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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Tucker: "so what does AIPAC lobby for?"
Cruz: "well nothing really"

Damn that was so ridiculous

Cruz: "I came to congress to be the leading protector of Israel"

Well yeah there you have it. At least he admits it

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Tucker was completely full of **** during that segment. As Cruz said, AIPAC does not lobby on the behalf of the Israeli government. They are an interest group that advocates for strong U.S.-Israel relations, and really have a very limited scope of influence.

The reason Tucker immediately pulled out the antisemitism defense is because he knows he's being an antisemite. "Just asking questions" about those subversive Jews, though.

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Disagreed. He pressed Cruz hard on the obvious nature of AIPAC being a foreign lobbying group and Cruz was clearly squirming about it.

AIPAC was literally founded by an Israeli lobbyist as a branch of the American Zionist Council. AZC eventually dissolved as it was forced to register as a foreign lobbyist group, and AIPAC has effectively filled this role since then. The claim they have limited scope of influence is so absurd I'm not even sure how to respond. They run basically the entire GOP besides Thomas Massie and maybe one or two others.

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So Israel needs to disarm and "The Jews" run the GOP... I'm pretty sure we have your position down now.

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The internet is an amazing thing. It literally takes 2 seconds to find out who takes money from AIPAC and how much.

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Lot's of organizations donate to Republican candidates that you haven't claimed "run" the GOP. You just happen to have a particular issue with one.

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Keyno said:

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Phatbob said:

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Keyno said:

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Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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Tucker: "so what does AIPAC lobby for?"
Cruz: "well nothing really"

Damn that was so ridiculous

Cruz: "I came to congress to be the leading protector of Israel"

Well yeah there you have it. At least he admits it

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Tucker was completely full of **** during that segment. As Cruz said, AIPAC does not lobby on the behalf of the Israeli government. They are an interest group that advocates for strong U.S.-Israel relations, and really have a very limited scope of influence.

The reason Tucker immediately pulled out the antisemitism defense is because he knows he's being an antisemite. "Just asking questions" about those subversive Jews, though.

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Disagreed. He pressed Cruz hard on the obvious nature of AIPAC being a foreign lobbying group and Cruz was clearly squirming about it.

AIPAC was literally founded by an Israeli lobbyist as a branch of the American Zionist Council. AZC eventually dissolved as it was forced to register as a foreign lobbyist group, and AIPAC has effectively filled this role since then. The claim they have limited scope of influence is so absurd I'm not even sure how to respond. They run basically the entire GOP besides Thomas Massie and maybe one or two others.

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So Israel needs to disarm and "The Jews" run the GOP... I'm pretty sure we have your position down now.

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The internet is an amazing thing. It literally takes 2 seconds to find out who takes money from AIPAC and how much.

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Lot's of organizations donate to Republican candidates that you haven't claimed "run" the GOP. You just happen to have a particular issue with one.

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Oh fair point. AIPAC runs the GOP to ensure the GOP works for Israel's interests.
Similar to how the GOP works for the interests of the other donors in those other various fields of governance.

I said this earlier…but Tucker is the Northeastern prep school Episcopalian who thinks the United States can control the Middle East And also anti-Jewish

It doesn't take much thought to come to the conclusion that a strong Israel is in our interests more than a weak Israel, especially given the character of their enemies. There are very few reasons that someone wouldn't come to that conclusion that don't go into some dark places. No lobbying PAC changes that.

AIPAC spent $52 million in 2024, in order to receive $3.8 billion per year.

That $52 million is 1.3% of the $3.8 billion that Israel receives.

That is an amazing return on the investment.

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It doesn't take much thought to come to the conclusion that a strong Israel is in our interests more than a weak Israel, especially given the character of their enemies. There are very few reasons that someone wouldn't come to that conclusion that don't go into some dark places. No lobbying PAC changes that.

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Sorry my man, it is not a good situation for our elected politicians to be so beholden to a foreign nation. I don't care what nation it is.

Keyno said:

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It doesn't take much thought to come to the conclusion that a strong Israel is in our interests more than a weak Israel, especially given the character of their enemies. There are very few reasons that someone wouldn't come to that conclusion that don't go into some dark places. No lobbying PAC changes that.

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Sorry my man, it is not a good situation for our elected politicians to be so beholden to a foreign nation. I don't care what nation it is.

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Supportive =/= beholden.

There are things that are so obvious that when people are so insistent in their disagreement, their ulterior motives are easy to spot.

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AIPAC spent $52 million in 2024, in order to receive $3.8 billion per year.

That $52 million is 1.3% of the $3.8 billion that Israel receives.

That is an amazing return on the investment.

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AIPAC spent over 100 million in the 2024 cycle. And that doesn't include the 100 million that Miriam Adelson gave to Trump. But Ted Cruz says they don't lobby for much hah

Our support comes with strings...those strings are the only reason certain Arabs don't glow in the dark ....at least, not yet.

All the ****tards that cry "genocide" about Israel don't want those strings cut. That will get you ACTUAL genocide.

I bet their kids get free lunch

Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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Tucker: "so what does AIPAC lobby for?"
Cruz: "well nothing really"

Damn that was so ridiculous

Cruz: "I came to congress to be the leading protector of Israel"

Well yeah there you have it. At least he admits it

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Tucker was completely full of **** during that segment. As Cruz said, AIPAC does not lobby on the behalf of the Israeli government. They are an interest group that advocates for strong U.S.-Israel relations, and really have a very limited scope of influence.

The reason Tucker immediately pulled out the antisemitism defense is because he knows he's being an antisemite. "Just asking questions" about those subversive Jews, though.

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Looool! Are you being serious?

Rapier108 said:

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Tucker making an ass of himself like always.

He might as well and come out and says he prefers our enemies to always be victorious.

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Quite possibly the most pot meet kettle statement in F16 history.

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His demeanor was arrogant, but Tucker is right.

An American Senator lobbying to bomb a country and he doesn't know their population or ethnic breakdown.
Iran is a slightly more complex scenario than "Mullahs bad, let's crank up the war machine"

Tucker is also right about spying. We should not allow any foreign nation to spy on us, regardless if they're an ally.

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I like Tucker in general, always have. But I kind of wonder if maybe he abused too many heavy psychedelics back in his youth as a rich trustafarian hedonist going to Grateful Dead shows. He is getting pretty nutty on some things. i.e. he thinks there are aliens visiting us but that they are spiritual beings from Heaven.

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This can't be a serious post and I hope just a joke.

Kvetch said:

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Quo Vadis? said:

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Queso1 said:

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Teslag said:

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Queso1 said:

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Teslag said:

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Yukon Cornelius said:

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It's not. Equating bombing another country to some stupid Disney movie where everyone dies on the Death Star is childish at best.

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He's highlighting at how it was a stupid irrelevant question

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Bull crap. Cruz made a career of cross examining people. He finally got a taste of his own BS and he couldn't hack it.

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Cruz made a career out of asking pertinent relevant questions.

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Well, I believe asking whether his politics are influenced by the the State of Israeli lobby are pertinent and relevant. I also think asking him why we have 100s of billions to send around the world, but we are falling apart at home is pertinent and relevant.

Safe, free and effective!

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You aren't allowed to ask those kinds of questions. We have no responsibility and can't afford to provide kids free to them breakfast or lunch at school because it's their parents responsibility to feed them, however we are absolutely supposed to defend Israel and Ukraine because it's our responsibility to defend them……somehow.

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Such a stupid straw man.

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Point me towards the error here, counselor.

1. We shouldn't spend money we don't have
2. If we spend money we don't have it should be spent on us

Where does spending money we don't have to protect Israel and Ukraine make sense?

Gig em G said:

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LMCane said:

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Gig em G said:

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Bibi has been saying Iran is 3-5 years away from developing a nuclear weapon for 33 years. That's not hyperbole either.

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post the video evidence

of Bibi Netanyahu in 1992 (when he was simply a Member of the Israeli Parliament) stating that Iran was 3 years away from having a nuclear bomb.

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There are other articles about it too

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Well he was right. The real war mongers have the radical Islamic jihadist movement whether they be Sunni, (ISIS/Al Queda/Bin Laden or the Shia, Iran, Hezbollah, Muslim Brotherhoo/dArab Spring. (John brennan is a Muslim by the way as is Barak and Valeri Jerrod and a lot of the left)

Yet Bibi is called the war monger when all of these groups, especially the Hamas have redundantly stated and acted to wipe Israel out 'from the rive to the sea. And yet Israel is the war mongers.

Sure! You have been propagandized by Gobbels type tactics of the Jihadist/Nazi's The Jihadist were alligned with the Nazi' historical fact

shiftyandquick said:

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AIPAC spent $52 million in 2024, in order to receive $3.8 billion per year.

That $52 million is 1.3% of the $3.8 billion that Israel receives.

That is an amazing return on the investment.

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Nice stat. The Obama administration sent $1.7 billion in cash to Iran, then the Biden administration freed up over $6 billion in frozen Iranian assets for no apparent reason. And Iran doesn't even have a PAC.

I'd argue that was an even better return on investment.

Don't get me started on the Bidens and Ukraine and/or China.

Hold on, I didn't make that video or insert the text "war monger." The Greenwald clip just happened to have all the sources of Bibi publicly stating Iran has been years away from developing a nuke since the early 90s.

Keyno said:

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Tucker: "so what does AIPAC lobby for?"
Cruz: "well nothing really"

Damn that was so ridiculous

Cruz: "I came to congress to be the leading protector of Israel"

Well yeah there you have it. At least he admits it

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Ted's a Jew, or converted to Judaism before he got into politics?

Also, if he's the leading protector of Israel, does that make Donald his second?

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John brennan is a Muslim by the way as is Barak and Valeri Jerrod and a lot of the left

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John brennan is a Muslim by the way as is Barak and Valeri Jerrod and a lot of the left

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He is, he admits it, do you know anything or just one of these mocking fools!?

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Jet White said:

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John brennan is a Muslim by the way as is Barak and Valeri Jerrod and a lot of the left

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He is, he admits it, do you know anything or just one of these mocking fools!?

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From Grok:

Claims suggesting he converted to Islam, often tied to his time in Saudi Arabia or comments about Islam, stem from rumors and misrepresentations. Brennan has publicly discussed his Catholic upbringing, and his spokesman, Nick Shapiro, confirmed to the Associated Press that Brennan is not Muslim. A 2010 video where Brennan speaks Arabic about his Middle East experiences was falsely circulated as evidence of him professing a Muslim faith, but he makes no such claim. Sources like Snopes and AP News debunk these allegations, noting they originate from unverified sources like former FBI agent John Guandolo.

Guess I'm not the "fool" here.

And by the way, I abhor John Brennan. Just believe in sticking to truth, as there are plentiful accurate criticisms of that POS. Unfortunately, Q Anon silliness like this takes away from those legitimate condemnations. Common on this board, unfortunately.

Wait until you hear his "Trump is a Freemason" story.

Even thing Brennan DID in his role as CIA and with Obama was pro Islamic.

I judge by the fruit. Not what Grok says or even he said after the fact. I do think that the Catholics since Vatican 2 consider Islam a legitimate religion.