Cruz on Tucker (Iran)

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Yukon Cornelius said:

I haven't once defended Iran. I've said multiple times they still need to be held responsible the IEDs in Iraq.

There's a tremendous amount of diverse groups who agree a genocide is underway in Gaza. Maybe the ego chamber on here is out of touch. Just maybe though.

https://theconversation.com/the-debate-over-genocide-claims-in-relation-to-gaza-intensifies-257847



More delusional opinions taken seriously are laughable.
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Yukon Cornelius said:

No I didn't argue that. It was mentioned in an article someone posted and I quoted the article. I have no idea if the article was right or wrong but I was highlighting what the article said.

Yukon, you and I agree on most issues, consider you a friend, I think you are wrong on this one buddy!

As Sherman said, "War is hell" and he proceeded to make it that.

In this case is was the Hamas who launched a brutal, barbaric genocidal attack against Israel, whether they were Jews or not did not matter.

These are freaking animals, barbarians of the worst sort of Islam. Which has absolutely no issues of killing, enslaving (look up who the Janissaries were) they took both boys and girls and forced them in the slavery and including sex slaves (and not just girls). The most wicked of all religions that has ever been spawned from the pits of hell come out of the Canaanites. The Hamas are the bottom of the pit. They teach death to their children from the womb.

There are times in scripture where God commanded Israel to wipe out the Amalekites and other "Ites" man, woman, child and even the animals. King Saul actually lost his kingdom over refusing to obey this.

There were reason God commanded this because of the absolute wicked, beyond redemption, evil that they did and are still doing. The 'iniquity of the Canaanites'. God will have the final say here, and He will come and pour His wrath out on ALL the Wicked, not just the Jihadist.

You cannot negotiate with Hitler, you cannot negotiate with demonically posseted jihadist. Who whole purpose in life is kill and rape and force their religion of death upon you.

if the roles were reversed, the Hamas and the Jihadist would kill, rape and wipe out every Israeli. they have already proved that.

The restraint and attempt to deal with a wicked, demonic and ruthless enemy that has zero scruples or value for human life, (even their own) has been incredible. I have never seen any like it.

When you go to war with enemy who want to wipe you out, you normally do not show mercy or restaint. You dont see a 'civilian' population, When we fought Germany, we didn't go, Oh lets not bomb civilian targets because they are innocent by standers. This is nonsense. There are no innocent civilians in Gaza. Sorry.
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which "several" groups agree there is a "genocide" in Gaza!?!?

Other than Hamas.

because the fact is the Palestinian population in the Gaza strip has increased in the last 18 months, Hamas refuses to release the hostages and end the war, and Hamas refuses to give up power

which is a pretty strange thing for a people undergoing "genocide" to do.

can you provide other examples of genocides where the party claiming genocide refused to release hostages they were holding?
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What is sad here is that the antichrist/antisemitics are smart. They have weaponized mercy, what do I mean by that.

Jesus said the son's this world are shrewder than the 'son's of God". He is not paying us a compliment.

In 2 Chron 18 - 19 we see King Jehoshaphat, a good King of Judah', form an alliance with Ahab (through marriage) the most wicked King of Israel because they were 'brothers'. It nearly gets him killed and gets the one true prophet in Ahab's court thrown into the dungeon on a diet of bread and water.

The older wiley Ahab absolutely manipulates Jehoshophat to aid him and actually sets him up to be the target of the Syrian army, Jehoshophat cries out to the Lord and is spared, Yet when he gets home - (Ahab dies) we don't know what happens to Micaiah (the one true prophet in Israel) - Jehoshophat is confronted and rebuked by the prophet Jehu:

2 Chron 19:1-3

When Jehoshaphat the king of Judah returned safely to his house in Jerusalem. 2 And Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him, and said to King Jehoshaphat, "Should you help the wicked and love those who hate the Lord? Therefore the wrath of the Lord is upon you. . . (He went on to say that -
Nevertheless good things are found in you, in that you have removed the wooden images from the land, and have prepared your heart to seek God." NKJV) So mercy was shown him and Judah prospered under him, Yet once again He tried to form an alliance with wicked Israel and this time the ships were blown away!)

The point is there is an 'unsanctified mercy'. There are times God told His servants. people to strike down the wicked and to have no covenant with them. There were reasons for that.

Now we have a a group of wicked, worse than Ahab who seek to the total antihalation of your nation, family, children. They have no problem raping and killing or enslaving your people, you wife, your children.

And yet when you come against them, They take their own wives and children, put a gun to their head and say. Don't attack or I'll shoot them!

And then if you do attack, you are accused of genocide! That's what it is happening in Gaza

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In before yu know who whines about a senator being unbecoming on X.

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But but but Iran means us no harm to USA!!!



When someone tells you who they are, listen.

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Im Gipper said:

But but but Iran means us no harm to USA!!!



When someone tells you who they are, listen.

From what I could gather in a 5 second search- this appears to be in response to Israeli/US aggression. Others are saying it's an unconfirmed report. So who knows.

Also, did you know Khamenei has had a fatwa against the production of nuclear weapons since the 1990s? On the basis that they are antithetical to Islam or something.

So should we listen when he says this?
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Since they previously tried to kill Trump, were enriching uranium to levels only needed for the bomb and their religion says to lie to infidels to protect their religion, it's pretty easy to discern the difference between the two!


Yes or no: do you think this was a joke about death of Trump?


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Im Gipper said:

Since they previously tried to kill Trump, were enriching uranium to levels only needed for the bomb and their religion says to lie to infidels to protect their religion, it's pretty easy to discern the difference between the two!


Yes or no: do you think this was a joke about death of Trump?


There is no evidence Iran has previously tried to kill Trump. I know Cruz pushed this line multiple times but could not give specifics to Tucker when pressed other than "I was told that". The best evidence for this claim I could find is a report from November, 2024, that an Afghan national, Farhad Shakeri, confessed to a plot. Shakeri was a convicted criminal and deported in 2008. He gave testimony to the feds from out of the country in order to lessen a charge against a friend of his. I don't consider this conclusive evidence of anything.

The fatwa in question appears to be issued by Hossein Nouri Hamedani, not Khamenei. I found what appears to be a translation of it on twitter which I will link below. It does not mention Trump at all, and more generally condemns anyone who tries to take out the Khamenei. I guess you could consider it a threat against Trump, if Trump tried to take out Khamenei. You'll remember Trump himself made a similar statement last year, where he basically said if anything should happen to him, we should blame and destroy Iran.

I do not think Iran is actively trying to assassinate Trump because Iran has shown it does not want war with the United States.



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Keyno said:

Im Gipper said:

Since they previously tried to kill Trump, were enriching uranium to levels only needed for the bomb and their religion says to lie to infidels to protect their religion, it's pretty easy to discern the difference between the two!


Yes or no: do you think this was a joke about death of Trump?


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There is no evidence Iran has previously tried to kill Trump.


Wrong.



Then there's this:



Will he do his dumb laugh in the Iranian terrorist leader's face? Or be giddy about the clean restaurants?



(ETA: And before anyone starts pushing the talking points, there's nothing wrong with Carlson doing this interview. If he does a real interview and is as hard as him as he is Cruz and American conservatives, I'll applaud Carlson. )

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I'm sure he will champion our drug addicts and homeless or maybe our $40 trillion in debt. Maybe he will sing praises of 25 years of endless war. Maybe he will boast that you can't watch a movie without someone's sexual preferences being shoved in you face.
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If only there were a way to do all of those things without also trying to explain why "Death to America" is just a catchy slogan that doesn't really mean anything harmful and tell all that enriched uranium just helps power daycares.

Do we really need the president of Iran's take on how gay Hollywood has become? Bring back the good goat screwing movies, right?

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Im Gipper said:

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There is no evidence Iran has previously tried to kill Trump.


Wrong.



Then there's this:



Will he do his dumb laugh in the Iranian terrorist leader's face? Or be giddy about the clean restaurants?



(ETA: And before anyone starts pushing the talking points, there's nothing wrong with Carlson doing this interview. If he does a real interview and is as hard as him as he is Cruz and American conservatives, I'll applaud Carlson. )


Dang well if AgHamilton29 said it, I guess case closed
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Its not AgHamilton. Try reading.

As for the Carlson-Iran President "interview" its going to be shocking for everyone, but there were not tough questions at all. Not a single one! Shocking! Carlson made an excuse that he wouldn't answer tough questions, so he didn't bother to ask. What a joke!

This is a good summary:


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I listened to the Tucker Carlson interview with the President of Iran.

Couple of thoughts:

1. Hope someone offered Tucker a cigarette after.

2. He gave the President of Iran 25 min to spew unsubstantiated IRGC state sponsored propaganda based on lies.

3. The narrative so shameless and so in your face that the President of Iran used the terms "forever wars."

4. Listening to a blood thirsty tyrant lecture me on sovereignty, freedom, independence as they stone women to death for not wearing a hijab is physically nauseating.


I left of 5 because I do not think Carlson hates America. He's just a grifter doubling down on defending Iran because its popular among the loser libertarians and "new right" crowd.


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Tucker has lost the plot. He might be losing his marbles.
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As Gipper said, he knows exactly what he's doing - Filling a lane of the anti American far right who wants the US to be more like Russia and Iran because he knows he'll get more clicks/views both from that group and the people who will hate-watch it. Sad that he's just become a pseudo intellectual grifter troll at this point.
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Hmmmmm


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He's right ya know.


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Cruz continues to call out the fraud.


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Tucker Qatarson

At this point, might be Tucker Iranson.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Tucker's right. Bibi needs to go.
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Tucker has become a moron.

I haven't heard a clip from him recently where he wasn't wrong.
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aTmAg said:

Tucker has become a moron.

I haven't heard a clip from him recently where he wasn't wrong.

I feel like he's mentally slipping. He's becoming a bit of a loon. Although he did hit it out of the park at Charlie Kirk's memorial.
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ts5641 said:

aTmAg said:

Tucker has become a moron.

I haven't heard a clip from him recently where he wasn't wrong.

I feel like he's mentally slipping. He's becoming a bit of a loon. Although he did hit it out of the park at Charlie Kirk's memorial.

I think he just says whatever he thinks his audience wants to hear. That was easy for him to figure out at the Charlie Kirk memorial.
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SociallyConditionedAg said:

Tucker's right. Bibi needs to go.


Thanks for the input Mr Arafat.

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Im Gipper said:

SociallyConditionedAg said:

Tucker's right. Bibi needs to go.


Thanks for the input Mr Arafat.

I can't understand why so many carry Israel's water.
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Being against terrorists and their lying supporters isn't "carrying water for Israel."

Wanting Netanyahu out literally means you want Hamas to prevail, or are okay with them prevailing. There is no alternative in Israel to Netanyahu that does not result in the fake people getting more and more land and power.

When you say we should not be involved or give more money, that is one thing. But when you take the position that Netanyahu should be out, that is a whole different position to take. That shows you are taking a side. And its not a side that is good for America!

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Tucker goes on a Russia apologists show to tell everyone Cruz is not smart.

The irony is thick as pea soup.



Sorry toots, Tucker embarrassed himself in the Cruz interview and the whole Iran ordeal. No amount of spin is going to change that!

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The best prime minister Israel has ever had. Of course you hate him.
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Tucker is desperate. And Candace Owens-level unhinged.

As Levin has said, he's never been part of a movement or led a movement. The reason for that is that Tucker has no core beliefs. He's a complete phony who goes where the wind (money) blows.
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aTmAg said:

ts5641 said:

aTmAg said:

Tucker has become a moron.

I haven't heard a clip from him recently where he wasn't wrong.

I feel like he's mentally slipping. He's becoming a bit of a loon. Although he did hit it out of the park at Charlie Kirk's memorial.

I think he just says whatever he thinks his audience wants to hear. That was easy for him to figure out at the Charlie Kirk memorial.

That's damning with faint praise to be sure. Have little use for those who "say what audience wants to hear" if that is what has become.

Interesting that the Iran President thing didn't even try thorny questions not involving our foreign policy by the sound of it. Should have asked about what he thinks about Turkey's claim to the Caliphate for Sunnis, and let things roll.
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Have little use for those who "say what audience wants to hear" if that is what has become.

It is what he has always been, not what he has become.

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Im Gipper said:

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Have little use for those who "say what audience wants to hear" if that is what has become.

It is what he has always been, not what he has become.


Less persuaded has always been that. But believe he has fallen too far off the other side in trying to present the "non-told" story. Whether it was Russia, or now this take on Gaza.

But it sure does shed some light on the dustup recently between Levin wing of conservative talk, and that sudden second guessing of Kirk, Tucker, and Kelly (Megyn).

I don't think Megyn Kelly is the "say what audience wants" kind of shallow, and she may need to distance if this is true.
 
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