Cruz on Tucker (Iran)

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Trump himself said that he was part of the brotherhood of the Masons, I think I will believe him.

As I said, I do not think Trump is a high Mason, But the symbolism of Trump Towers and his comparing himself to Alexander the Great and a Apollo is clear.

But you would not know about such things. Curious, do know what the order of St Germaine is

Now you can go look that up on Grok as well.
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Even thing Brennan DID in his role as CIA and with Obama was pro Islamic.

I judge by the fruit. Not what Grok says or even he said after the fact. I do think that the Catholics since Vatican 2 consider Islam a legitimate religion.
You claimed he admitted to being Muslim. New position now?
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He did, he retracted.
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Trump himself said that he was part of the brotherhood of the Masons, I think I will believe him.


I legitimately have actively not belly laughed like this at a post in a while. Thank you.
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He did, he retracted.



Oh, okay. Show us where he did.
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Everything Brennan has done is in line with his favorable opinion of Islam. Everything.

He was flipped, he only denied being a devout follwer of Islam when he was called out on it.

Just like Obama, called himself a Christian. total BS.

But you go a head and be the deceived fool. That goes to Grok or Chatgpt to get your info

Let me guess you took the vax didn't ya? Because it was save and effective.
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You just made the direct claim that he identified himself as Muslim and then later recanted.

When asked when this happened or what he said, an entirely reasonable question, you go on a completely unrelated rant and fall back on simply declaring me a "fool". If Grok provided incorrect or incomplete info, please, by all means correct the record. We are all ears.

Afraid you're gonna need more than lazy ad hominem here bud.
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Quo Vadis? said:

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Quo Vadis? said:

Queso1 said:

Teslag said:

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It's not. Equating bombing another country to some stupid Disney movie where everyone dies on the Death Star is childish at best.


He's highlighting at how it was a stupid irrelevant question


Bull crap. Cruz made a career of cross examining people. He finally got a taste of his own BS and he couldn't hack it.


Cruz made a career out of asking pertinent relevant questions.


Well, I believe asking whether his politics are influenced by the the State of Israeli lobby are pertinent and relevant. I also think asking him why we have 100s of billions to send around the world, but we are falling apart at home is pertinent and relevant.

Safe, free and effective!


You aren't allowed to ask those kinds of questions. We have no responsibility and can't afford to provide kids free to them breakfast or lunch at school because it's their parents responsibility to feed them, however we are absolutely supposed to defend Israel and Ukraine because it's our responsibility to defend them……somehow.


Such a stupid straw man.


Point me towards the error here, counselor.

1. We shouldn't spend money we don't have
2. If we spend money we don't have it should be spent on us

Where does spending money we don't have to protect Israel and Ukraine make sense?


1. We shouldn't spend money we don't have. The defense budget and specifically aid to Israel makes up a minuscule fraction of our budget.

2. The VAST majority of our deficit spending is attributable to domestic social programs (i.e. spending on ourselves). If we eliminated all foreign aid, we would be basically no closer to balancing the budget and paying off debt. However, we would lose influence around the world which would minimize our ability to maintain our hegemonic status.

Without the U.S. as the world leader, other bad actors will fill that void and shape foreign policy to their liking. You want China in Taiwan completely ****ing our tech industry?You want OPEC to act like even more of a cartel? You want Iran to develop nuclear weapons?

Go ahead and follow the dumb straw man to its logical conclusion. You solve no domestic problems and create tons of foreign ones. Not to mention, none of our domestic problems a result of not enough federal spending.
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The defense budget and specifically aid to Israel makes up a minuscule fraction of our budget.


I'm sorry, but wut

What unicorn math are we using to classify our defense budget as a minuscule fraction of the budget?
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The defense budget and specifically aid to Israel makes up a minuscule fraction of our budget.


I'm sorry, but wut

What unicorn math are we using to classify our defense budget as a minuscule fraction of the budget?


I meant our foreign aid budget which is roughly 1% of the federal budget.
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Ah, okay. Does that minuscule percentage to Israel include all the military equipment/intel/etc. or is it only the direct dollar aid?

Not being an ass, genuinely curious. I get where Israel is coming from here and I support them, at least certainly from a broad strokes perspective.
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Jet White said:

Ah, okay. Does that minuscule percentage to Israel include all the military equipment/intel/etc. or is it only the direct dollar aid?

Not being an ass, genuinely curious. I get where Israel is coming from here and I support them, at least certainly from a broad strokes perspective.


Here is a breakdown of the historical aid to Israel: https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts

Nowadays, their total assistance is almost all military. While Israel is the largest historical recipient of U.S. aid (for good reason), it still makes up a minuscule portion of our spending. The ROI of Israeli intel and military resources in that region far outweighs the modern spending, in my opinion. Especially when you consider all the things we spend money on.
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Kvetch said:

Jet White said:

Ah, okay. Does that minuscule percentage to Israel include all the military equipment/intel/etc. or is it only the direct dollar aid?

Not being an ass, genuinely curious. I get where Israel is coming from here and I support them, at least certainly from a broad strokes perspective.


Here is a breakdown of the historical aid to Israel: https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts

Nowadays, their total assistance is almost all military. While Israel is the largest historical recipient of U.S. aid (for good reason), it still makes up a minuscule portion of our spending. The ROI of Israeli intel and military resources in that region far outweighs the modern spending, in my opinion. Especially when you consider all the things we spend money on.
Egypt at number 2 should also be counted as aid to Israel because its payoff money so Egypt won't attack them
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Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Jet White said:

Ah, okay. Does that minuscule percentage to Israel include all the military equipment/intel/etc. or is it only the direct dollar aid?

Not being an ass, genuinely curious. I get where Israel is coming from here and I support them, at least certainly from a broad strokes perspective.


Here is a breakdown of the historical aid to Israel: https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts

Nowadays, their total assistance is almost all military. While Israel is the largest historical recipient of U.S. aid (for good reason), it still makes up a minuscule portion of our spending. The ROI of Israeli intel and military resources in that region far outweighs the modern spending, in my opinion. Especially when you consider all the things we spend money on.
Egypt at number 2 should also be counted as aid to Israel because its payoff money so Egypt won't attack them


This is complete nonsense. But I'm all for you continuing to make a fool of yourself.
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Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Jet White said:

Ah, okay. Does that minuscule percentage to Israel include all the military equipment/intel/etc. or is it only the direct dollar aid?

Not being an ass, genuinely curious. I get where Israel is coming from here and I support them, at least certainly from a broad strokes perspective.


Here is a breakdown of the historical aid to Israel: https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts

Nowadays, their total assistance is almost all military. While Israel is the largest historical recipient of U.S. aid (for good reason), it still makes up a minuscule portion of our spending. The ROI of Israeli intel and military resources in that region far outweighs the modern spending, in my opinion. Especially when you consider all the things we spend money on.
Egypt at number 2 should also be counted as aid to Israel because its payoff money so Egypt won't attack them


This is complete nonsense. But I'm all for you continuing to make a fool of yourself.

Remember when trump came in saying "no more foreign aid! Well except for Israel, Egypt, and Jordan". Yeah that's why
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Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Jet White said:

Ah, okay. Does that minuscule percentage to Israel include all the military equipment/intel/etc. or is it only the direct dollar aid?

Not being an ass, genuinely curious. I get where Israel is coming from here and I support them, at least certainly from a broad strokes perspective.


Here is a breakdown of the historical aid to Israel: https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts

Nowadays, their total assistance is almost all military. While Israel is the largest historical recipient of U.S. aid (for good reason), it still makes up a minuscule portion of our spending. The ROI of Israeli intel and military resources in that region far outweighs the modern spending, in my opinion. Especially when you consider all the things we spend money on.
Egypt at number 2 should also be counted as aid to Israel because its payoff money so Egypt won't attack them


This is complete nonsense. But I'm all for you continuing to make a fool of yourself.

Remember when trump came in saying "no more foreign aid! Well except for Israel, Egypt, and Jordan". Yeah that's why


Oh, those are the only countries who get foreign aid? Breaking news. Not to mention that Egypt controls the Suez Canal and all the other political involvement we've had with them over the years.

Oh, and Egypt already tried to invade Israel. They lost. Your assertion is complete baseless and asinine.
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Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Jet White said:

Ah, okay. Does that minuscule percentage to Israel include all the military equipment/intel/etc. or is it only the direct dollar aid?

Not being an ass, genuinely curious. I get where Israel is coming from here and I support them, at least certainly from a broad strokes perspective.


Here is a breakdown of the historical aid to Israel: https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts

Nowadays, their total assistance is almost all military. While Israel is the largest historical recipient of U.S. aid (for good reason), it still makes up a minuscule portion of our spending. The ROI of Israeli intel and military resources in that region far outweighs the modern spending, in my opinion. Especially when you consider all the things we spend money on.
Egypt at number 2 should also be counted as aid to Israel because its payoff money so Egypt won't attack them


This is complete nonsense. But I'm all for you continuing to make a fool of yourself.

Remember when trump came in saying "no more foreign aid! Well except for Israel, Egypt, and Jordan". Yeah that's why


Oh, those are the only countries who get foreign aid? Breaking news. Not to mention that Egypt controls the Suez Canal and all the other political involvement we've had with them over the years.

Oh, and Egypt already tried to invade Israel. They lost. Your assertion is complete baseless and asinine.

No Trump 2024 was campaigning saying "america first no more foreign aid". Then gets in and says "nevermind we will still give aid to Israel, Egypt, and Jordan".

Israel because of course. Egypt and Jordan for them to stay peaceful to israel
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Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Jet White said:

Ah, okay. Does that minuscule percentage to Israel include all the military equipment/intel/etc. or is it only the direct dollar aid?

Not being an ass, genuinely curious. I get where Israel is coming from here and I support them, at least certainly from a broad strokes perspective.


Here is a breakdown of the historical aid to Israel: https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts

Nowadays, their total assistance is almost all military. While Israel is the largest historical recipient of U.S. aid (for good reason), it still makes up a minuscule portion of our spending. The ROI of Israeli intel and military resources in that region far outweighs the modern spending, in my opinion. Especially when you consider all the things we spend money on.
Egypt at number 2 should also be counted as aid to Israel because its payoff money so Egypt won't attack them


This is complete nonsense. But I'm all for you continuing to make a fool of yourself.

Remember when trump came in saying "no more foreign aid! Well except for Israel, Egypt, and Jordan". Yeah that's why


Oh, those are the only countries who get foreign aid? Breaking news. Not to mention that Egypt controls the Suez Canal and all the other political involvement we've had with them over the years.

Oh, and Egypt already tried to invade Israel. They lost. Your assertion is complete baseless and asinine.

No Trump 2024 was campaigning saying "america first no more foreign aid". Then gets in and says "nevermind we will still give aid to Israel, Egypt, and Jordan".

Israel because of course. Egypt and Jordan for them to stay peaceful to israel


This is completely made up bull****, hence why you have not provided any proof for these assertions. Those three countries, are the top of the aid list, but they're not the only ones receiving aid. Are we giving comparable aid to Somalia and Ethiopia to prevent their attack on Israel too?

Just admit you hate Israel and don't care if the Jews are annihilated and we can move on from listening to your complete nonsense.
Keyno
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Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Jet White said:

Ah, okay. Does that minuscule percentage to Israel include all the military equipment/intel/etc. or is it only the direct dollar aid?

Not being an ass, genuinely curious. I get where Israel is coming from here and I support them, at least certainly from a broad strokes perspective.


Here is a breakdown of the historical aid to Israel: https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts

Nowadays, their total assistance is almost all military. While Israel is the largest historical recipient of U.S. aid (for good reason), it still makes up a minuscule portion of our spending. The ROI of Israeli intel and military resources in that region far outweighs the modern spending, in my opinion. Especially when you consider all the things we spend money on.
Egypt at number 2 should also be counted as aid to Israel because its payoff money so Egypt won't attack them


This is complete nonsense. But I'm all for you continuing to make a fool of yourself.

Remember when trump came in saying "no more foreign aid! Well except for Israel, Egypt, and Jordan". Yeah that's why


Oh, those are the only countries who get foreign aid? Breaking news. Not to mention that Egypt controls the Suez Canal and all the other political involvement we've had with them over the years.

Oh, and Egypt already tried to invade Israel. They lost. Your assertion is complete baseless and asinine.

No Trump 2024 was campaigning saying "america first no more foreign aid". Then gets in and says "nevermind we will still give aid to Israel, Egypt, and Jordan".

Israel because of course. Egypt and Jordan for them to stay peaceful to israel


This is completely made up bull****, hence why you have not provided any proof for these assertions. Those three countries, are the top of the aid list, but they're not the only ones receiving aid. Are we giving comparable aid to Somalia and Ethiopia to prevent their attack on Israel too?

Just admit you hate Israel and don't care if the Jews are annihilated and we can move on from listening to your complete nonsense.

I never said they were the only ones receiving aid lmfao. Calm down.
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Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Jet White said:

Ah, okay. Does that minuscule percentage to Israel include all the military equipment/intel/etc. or is it only the direct dollar aid?

Not being an ass, genuinely curious. I get where Israel is coming from here and I support them, at least certainly from a broad strokes perspective.


Here is a breakdown of the historical aid to Israel: https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts

Nowadays, their total assistance is almost all military. While Israel is the largest historical recipient of U.S. aid (for good reason), it still makes up a minuscule portion of our spending. The ROI of Israeli intel and military resources in that region far outweighs the modern spending, in my opinion. Especially when you consider all the things we spend money on.
Egypt at number 2 should also be counted as aid to Israel because its payoff money so Egypt won't attack them


This is complete nonsense. But I'm all for you continuing to make a fool of yourself.

Remember when trump came in saying "no more foreign aid! Well except for Israel, Egypt, and Jordan". Yeah that's why


Oh, those are the only countries who get foreign aid? Breaking news. Not to mention that Egypt controls the Suez Canal and all the other political involvement we've had with them over the years.

Oh, and Egypt already tried to invade Israel. They lost. Your assertion is complete baseless and asinine.

No Trump 2024 was campaigning saying "america first no more foreign aid". Then gets in and says "nevermind we will still give aid to Israel, Egypt, and Jordan".

Israel because of course. Egypt and Jordan for them to stay peaceful to israel


This is completely made up bull****, hence why you have not provided any proof for these assertions. Those three countries, are the top of the aid list, but they're not the only ones receiving aid. Are we giving comparable aid to Somalia and Ethiopia to prevent their attack on Israel too?

Just admit you hate Israel and don't care if the Jews are annihilated and we can move on from listening to your complete nonsense.

I never said they were the only ones receiving aid lmfao. Calm down.


That's actually exactly what you said.
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Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Jet White said:

Ah, okay. Does that minuscule percentage to Israel include all the military equipment/intel/etc. or is it only the direct dollar aid?

Not being an ass, genuinely curious. I get where Israel is coming from here and I support them, at least certainly from a broad strokes perspective.


Here is a breakdown of the historical aid to Israel: https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts

Nowadays, their total assistance is almost all military. While Israel is the largest historical recipient of U.S. aid (for good reason), it still makes up a minuscule portion of our spending. The ROI of Israeli intel and military resources in that region far outweighs the modern spending, in my opinion. Especially when you consider all the things we spend money on.
Egypt at number 2 should also be counted as aid to Israel because its payoff money so Egypt won't attack them


This is complete nonsense. But I'm all for you continuing to make a fool of yourself.

Remember when trump came in saying "no more foreign aid! Well except for Israel, Egypt, and Jordan". Yeah that's why


Oh, those are the only countries who get foreign aid? Breaking news. Not to mention that Egypt controls the Suez Canal and all the other political involvement we've had with them over the years.

Oh, and Egypt already tried to invade Israel. They lost. Your assertion is complete baseless and asinine.

No Trump 2024 was campaigning saying "america first no more foreign aid". Then gets in and says "nevermind we will still give aid to Israel, Egypt, and Jordan".

Israel because of course. Egypt and Jordan for them to stay peaceful to israel


This is completely made up bull****, hence why you have not provided any proof for these assertions. Those three countries, are the top of the aid list, but they're not the only ones receiving aid. Are we giving comparable aid to Somalia and Ethiopia to prevent their attack on Israel too?

Just admit you hate Israel and don't care if the Jews are annihilated and we can move on from listening to your complete nonsense.

I never said they were the only ones receiving aid lmfao. Calm down.


That's actually exactly what you said.

Where? I was reminding you what TRUMP said. Can you read?
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Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Jet White said:

Ah, okay. Does that minuscule percentage to Israel include all the military equipment/intel/etc. or is it only the direct dollar aid?

Not being an ass, genuinely curious. I get where Israel is coming from here and I support them, at least certainly from a broad strokes perspective.


Here is a breakdown of the historical aid to Israel: https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts

Nowadays, their total assistance is almost all military. While Israel is the largest historical recipient of U.S. aid (for good reason), it still makes up a minuscule portion of our spending. The ROI of Israeli intel and military resources in that region far outweighs the modern spending, in my opinion. Especially when you consider all the things we spend money on.
Egypt at number 2 should also be counted as aid to Israel because its payoff money so Egypt won't attack them


This is complete nonsense. But I'm all for you continuing to make a fool of yourself.

Remember when trump came in saying "no more foreign aid! Well except for Israel, Egypt, and Jordan". Yeah that's why


Oh, those are the only countries who get foreign aid? Breaking news. Not to mention that Egypt controls the Suez Canal and all the other political involvement we've had with them over the years.

Oh, and Egypt already tried to invade Israel. They lost. Your assertion is complete baseless and asinine.

No Trump 2024 was campaigning saying "america first no more foreign aid". Then gets in and says "nevermind we will still give aid to Israel, Egypt, and Jordan".

Israel because of course. Egypt and Jordan for them to stay peaceful to israel


This is completely made up bull****, hence why you have not provided any proof for these assertions. Those three countries, are the top of the aid list, but they're not the only ones receiving aid. Are we giving comparable aid to Somalia and Ethiopia to prevent their attack on Israel too?

Just admit you hate Israel and don't care if the Jews are annihilated and we can move on from listening to your complete nonsense.

I never said they were the only ones receiving aid lmfao. Calm down.


That's actually exactly what you said.

Where? I was reminding you what TRUMP said. Can you read?


Yes, I can read. Your implication was that Trump said no more aid except if it benefits Israel. Except, no he didn't, and we still provide aid (that cumulatively far exceeds the total aid you've self-ascribed to being for Israel) to a vast number of countries around the world.

Your schtick is tired, unoriginal, and transparent. Find a new hobby that isn't incessantly bashing Israel on the internet. You're not good at it.
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Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Jet White said:

Ah, okay. Does that minuscule percentage to Israel include all the military equipment/intel/etc. or is it only the direct dollar aid?

Not being an ass, genuinely curious. I get where Israel is coming from here and I support them, at least certainly from a broad strokes perspective.


Here is a breakdown of the historical aid to Israel: https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts

Nowadays, their total assistance is almost all military. While Israel is the largest historical recipient of U.S. aid (for good reason), it still makes up a minuscule portion of our spending. The ROI of Israeli intel and military resources in that region far outweighs the modern spending, in my opinion. Especially when you consider all the things we spend money on.
Egypt at number 2 should also be counted as aid to Israel because its payoff money so Egypt won't attack them


This is complete nonsense. But I'm all for you continuing to make a fool of yourself.

Remember when trump came in saying "no more foreign aid! Well except for Israel, Egypt, and Jordan". Yeah that's why


Oh, those are the only countries who get foreign aid? Breaking news. Not to mention that Egypt controls the Suez Canal and all the other political involvement we've had with them over the years.

Oh, and Egypt already tried to invade Israel. They lost. Your assertion is complete baseless and asinine.

No Trump 2024 was campaigning saying "america first no more foreign aid". Then gets in and says "nevermind we will still give aid to Israel, Egypt, and Jordan".

Israel because of course. Egypt and Jordan for them to stay peaceful to israel


This is completely made up bull****, hence why you have not provided any proof for these assertions. Those three countries, are the top of the aid list, but they're not the only ones receiving aid. Are we giving comparable aid to Somalia and Ethiopia to prevent their attack on Israel too?

Just admit you hate Israel and don't care if the Jews are annihilated and we can move on from listening to your complete nonsense.

I never said they were the only ones receiving aid lmfao. Calm down.


That's actually exactly what you said.

Where? I was reminding you what TRUMP said. Can you read?


Yes, I can read. Your implication was that Trump said no more aid except if it benefits Israel. Except, no he didn't, and we still provide aid (that cumulatively far exceeds the total aid you've self-ascribed to being for Israel) to a vast number of countries around the world.

Your schtick is tired, unoriginal, and transparent. Find a new hobby that isn't incessantly bashing Israel on the internet. You're not good at it.

You are doing what Cruz did to Tucker. Someone asks you reasonable questions/makes reasonable comments like "what's going on with Israel" and you immediately flip out, become hostile and belligerent.

Calm down, it's just the internet
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Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Jet White said:

Ah, okay. Does that minuscule percentage to Israel include all the military equipment/intel/etc. or is it only the direct dollar aid?

Not being an ass, genuinely curious. I get where Israel is coming from here and I support them, at least certainly from a broad strokes perspective.


Here is a breakdown of the historical aid to Israel: https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts

Nowadays, their total assistance is almost all military. While Israel is the largest historical recipient of U.S. aid (for good reason), it still makes up a minuscule portion of our spending. The ROI of Israeli intel and military resources in that region far outweighs the modern spending, in my opinion. Especially when you consider all the things we spend money on.
Egypt at number 2 should also be counted as aid to Israel because its payoff money so Egypt won't attack them


This is complete nonsense. But I'm all for you continuing to make a fool of yourself.

Remember when trump came in saying "no more foreign aid! Well except for Israel, Egypt, and Jordan". Yeah that's why


Oh, those are the only countries who get foreign aid? Breaking news. Not to mention that Egypt controls the Suez Canal and all the other political involvement we've had with them over the years.

Oh, and Egypt already tried to invade Israel. They lost. Your assertion is complete baseless and asinine.

No Trump 2024 was campaigning saying "america first no more foreign aid". Then gets in and says "nevermind we will still give aid to Israel, Egypt, and Jordan".

Israel because of course. Egypt and Jordan for them to stay peaceful to israel


This is completely made up bull****, hence why you have not provided any proof for these assertions. Those three countries, are the top of the aid list, but they're not the only ones receiving aid. Are we giving comparable aid to Somalia and Ethiopia to prevent their attack on Israel too?

Just admit you hate Israel and don't care if the Jews are annihilated and we can move on from listening to your complete nonsense.

I never said they were the only ones receiving aid lmfao. Calm down.


That's actually exactly what you said.

Where? I was reminding you what TRUMP said. Can you read?


Yes, I can read. Your implication was that Trump said no more aid except if it benefits Israel. Except, no he didn't, and we still provide aid (that cumulatively far exceeds the total aid you've self-ascribed to being for Israel) to a vast number of countries around the world.

Your schtick is tired, unoriginal, and transparent. Find a new hobby that isn't incessantly bashing Israel on the internet. You're not good at it.

You are doing what Cruz did to Tucker. Someone asks you reasonable questions/makes reasonable comments like "what's going on with Israel" and you immediately flip out, become hostile and belligerent.

Calm down, it's just the internet


Nope, just calling it how I see it. You're the one that spends an inordinate amount of time on the internet bashing a foreign country for "unknown" reasons. Just like Tucker "just asking questions" without being interested in a real answer.

And you're just trying to obfuscate since you don't have any legitimate evidence to substantiate your Israel-hating claim. Sorry you misinterpret direct as hostile and belligerent.
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Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Jet White said:

Ah, okay. Does that minuscule percentage to Israel include all the military equipment/intel/etc. or is it only the direct dollar aid?

Not being an ass, genuinely curious. I get where Israel is coming from here and I support them, at least certainly from a broad strokes perspective.


Here is a breakdown of the historical aid to Israel: https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts

Nowadays, their total assistance is almost all military. While Israel is the largest historical recipient of U.S. aid (for good reason), it still makes up a minuscule portion of our spending. The ROI of Israeli intel and military resources in that region far outweighs the modern spending, in my opinion. Especially when you consider all the things we spend money on.
Egypt at number 2 should also be counted as aid to Israel because its payoff money so Egypt won't attack them


This is complete nonsense. But I'm all for you continuing to make a fool of yourself.

Remember when trump came in saying "no more foreign aid! Well except for Israel, Egypt, and Jordan". Yeah that's why


Oh, those are the only countries who get foreign aid? Breaking news. Not to mention that Egypt controls the Suez Canal and all the other political involvement we've had with them over the years.

Oh, and Egypt already tried to invade Israel. They lost. Your assertion is complete baseless and asinine.

No Trump 2024 was campaigning saying "america first no more foreign aid". Then gets in and says "nevermind we will still give aid to Israel, Egypt, and Jordan".

Israel because of course. Egypt and Jordan for them to stay peaceful to israel


This is completely made up bull****, hence why you have not provided any proof for these assertions. Those three countries, are the top of the aid list, but they're not the only ones receiving aid. Are we giving comparable aid to Somalia and Ethiopia to prevent their attack on Israel too?

Just admit you hate Israel and don't care if the Jews are annihilated and we can move on from listening to your complete nonsense.

I never said they were the only ones receiving aid lmfao. Calm down.


That's actually exactly what you said.

Where? I was reminding you what TRUMP said. Can you read?


Yes, I can read. Your implication was that Trump said no more aid except if it benefits Israel. Except, no he didn't, and we still provide aid (that cumulatively far exceeds the total aid you've self-ascribed to being for Israel) to a vast number of countries around the world.

Your schtick is tired, unoriginal, and transparent. Find a new hobby that isn't incessantly bashing Israel on the internet. You're not good at it.

You are doing what Cruz did to Tucker. Someone asks you reasonable questions/makes reasonable comments like "what's going on with Israel" and you immediately flip out, become hostile and belligerent.

Calm down, it's just the internet


Nope, just calling it how I see it. You're the one that spends an inordinate amount of time on the internet bashing a foreign country for "unknown" reasons. Just like Tucker "just asking questions" without being interested in a real answer.

And you're just trying to obfuscate since you don't have any legitimate evidence to substantiate your Israel-hating claim. Sorry you misinterpret direct as hostile and belligerent.

Again you're doing what Cruz did to Tucker- "why do you care about Israel so much". Of course that question has nefarious undertones which I'm sure you intend.

Uh israel seems to have a disproportionate amount of control over our country and is currently dragging us into another Middle East war. Are those reasons adequate?
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Keyno said:

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Jet White said:

Ah, okay. Does that minuscule percentage to Israel include all the military equipment/intel/etc. or is it only the direct dollar aid?

Not being an ass, genuinely curious. I get where Israel is coming from here and I support them, at least certainly from a broad strokes perspective.


Here is a breakdown of the historical aid to Israel: https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts

Nowadays, their total assistance is almost all military. While Israel is the largest historical recipient of U.S. aid (for good reason), it still makes up a minuscule portion of our spending. The ROI of Israeli intel and military resources in that region far outweighs the modern spending, in my opinion. Especially when you consider all the things we spend money on.
Egypt at number 2 should also be counted as aid to Israel because its payoff money so Egypt won't attack them


This is complete nonsense. But I'm all for you continuing to make a fool of yourself.

Remember when trump came in saying "no more foreign aid! Well except for Israel, Egypt, and Jordan". Yeah that's why


Oh, those are the only countries who get foreign aid? Breaking news. Not to mention that Egypt controls the Suez Canal and all the other political involvement we've had with them over the years.

Oh, and Egypt already tried to invade Israel. They lost. Your assertion is complete baseless and asinine.

No Trump 2024 was campaigning saying "america first no more foreign aid". Then gets in and says "nevermind we will still give aid to Israel, Egypt, and Jordan".

Israel because of course. Egypt and Jordan for them to stay peaceful to israel


This is completely made up bull****, hence why you have not provided any proof for these assertions. Those three countries, are the top of the aid list, but they're not the only ones receiving aid. Are we giving comparable aid to Somalia and Ethiopia to prevent their attack on Israel too?

Just admit you hate Israel and don't care if the Jews are annihilated and we can move on from listening to your complete nonsense.

I never said they were the only ones receiving aid lmfao. Calm down.


That's actually exactly what you said.

Where? I was reminding you what TRUMP said. Can you read?


Yes, I can read. Your implication was that Trump said no more aid except if it benefits Israel. Except, no he didn't, and we still provide aid (that cumulatively far exceeds the total aid you've self-ascribed to being for Israel) to a vast number of countries around the world.

Your schtick is tired, unoriginal, and transparent. Find a new hobby that isn't incessantly bashing Israel on the internet. You're not good at it.

You are doing what Cruz did to Tucker. Someone asks you reasonable questions/makes reasonable comments like "what's going on with Israel" and you immediately flip out, become hostile and belligerent.

Calm down, it's just the internet


Nope, just calling it how I see it. You're the one that spends an inordinate amount of time on the internet bashing a foreign country for "unknown" reasons. Just like Tucker "just asking questions" without being interested in a real answer.

And you're just trying to obfuscate since you don't have any legitimate evidence to substantiate your Israel-hating claim. Sorry you misinterpret direct as hostile and belligerent.

Again you're doing what Cruz did to Tucker- "why do you care about Israel so much". Of course that question has nefarious undertones which I'm sure you intend.

Uh israel seems to have a disproportionate amount of control over our country and is currently dragging us into another Middle East war. Are those reasons adequate?


No, because they don't have a disproportionate amount of control over our country unless you think being an ally means control. If Israel had control over our country, a lot of things in that region would look different.

But I know. Jews fundraise money for an interest group, so they must be subverting American interests on the behalf of a foreign nation. That's the only and most reasonable explanation, right?

Also, Tucker was a complete, condescending jackass in that interview. It says a lot that your bashing Cruz's behavior.
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Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

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Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Jet White said:

Ah, okay. Does that minuscule percentage to Israel include all the military equipment/intel/etc. or is it only the direct dollar aid?

Not being an ass, genuinely curious. I get where Israel is coming from here and I support them, at least certainly from a broad strokes perspective.


Here is a breakdown of the historical aid to Israel: https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts

Nowadays, their total assistance is almost all military. While Israel is the largest historical recipient of U.S. aid (for good reason), it still makes up a minuscule portion of our spending. The ROI of Israeli intel and military resources in that region far outweighs the modern spending, in my opinion. Especially when you consider all the things we spend money on.
Egypt at number 2 should also be counted as aid to Israel because its payoff money so Egypt won't attack them


This is complete nonsense. But I'm all for you continuing to make a fool of yourself.

Remember when trump came in saying "no more foreign aid! Well except for Israel, Egypt, and Jordan". Yeah that's why


Oh, those are the only countries who get foreign aid? Breaking news. Not to mention that Egypt controls the Suez Canal and all the other political involvement we've had with them over the years.

Oh, and Egypt already tried to invade Israel. They lost. Your assertion is complete baseless and asinine.

No Trump 2024 was campaigning saying "america first no more foreign aid". Then gets in and says "nevermind we will still give aid to Israel, Egypt, and Jordan".

Israel because of course. Egypt and Jordan for them to stay peaceful to israel


This is completely made up bull****, hence why you have not provided any proof for these assertions. Those three countries, are the top of the aid list, but they're not the only ones receiving aid. Are we giving comparable aid to Somalia and Ethiopia to prevent their attack on Israel too?

Just admit you hate Israel and don't care if the Jews are annihilated and we can move on from listening to your complete nonsense.

I never said they were the only ones receiving aid lmfao. Calm down.


That's actually exactly what you said.

Where? I was reminding you what TRUMP said. Can you read?


Yes, I can read. Your implication was that Trump said no more aid except if it benefits Israel. Except, no he didn't, and we still provide aid (that cumulatively far exceeds the total aid you've self-ascribed to being for Israel) to a vast number of countries around the world.

Your schtick is tired, unoriginal, and transparent. Find a new hobby that isn't incessantly bashing Israel on the internet. You're not good at it.

You are doing what Cruz did to Tucker. Someone asks you reasonable questions/makes reasonable comments like "what's going on with Israel" and you immediately flip out, become hostile and belligerent.

Calm down, it's just the internet


Nope, just calling it how I see it. You're the one that spends an inordinate amount of time on the internet bashing a foreign country for "unknown" reasons. Just like Tucker "just asking questions" without being interested in a real answer.

And you're just trying to obfuscate since you don't have any legitimate evidence to substantiate your Israel-hating claim. Sorry you misinterpret direct as hostile and belligerent.

Again you're doing what Cruz did to Tucker- "why do you care about Israel so much". Of course that question has nefarious undertones which I'm sure you intend.

Uh israel seems to have a disproportionate amount of control over our country and is currently dragging us into another Middle East war. Are those reasons adequate?


No, because they don't have a disproportionate amount of control over our country unless you think being an ally means control. If Israel had control over our country, a lot of things in that region would look different.

But I know. Jews fundraise money for an interest group, so they must be subverting American interests on the behalf of a foreign nation. That's the only and most reasonable explanation, right?

Also, Tucker was a complete, condescending jackass in that interview. It says a lot that your bashing Cruz's behavior.

I'm sorry my man, but if our country doesn't want to go to war, and we have a president who campaigned on no new wars, but a foreign country wants the war so we are doing it; that's disproportionate control
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Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

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Keyno said:

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Jet White said:

Ah, okay. Does that minuscule percentage to Israel include all the military equipment/intel/etc. or is it only the direct dollar aid?

Not being an ass, genuinely curious. I get where Israel is coming from here and I support them, at least certainly from a broad strokes perspective.


Here is a breakdown of the historical aid to Israel: https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts

Nowadays, their total assistance is almost all military. While Israel is the largest historical recipient of U.S. aid (for good reason), it still makes up a minuscule portion of our spending. The ROI of Israeli intel and military resources in that region far outweighs the modern spending, in my opinion. Especially when you consider all the things we spend money on.
Egypt at number 2 should also be counted as aid to Israel because its payoff money so Egypt won't attack them


This is complete nonsense. But I'm all for you continuing to make a fool of yourself.

Remember when trump came in saying "no more foreign aid! Well except for Israel, Egypt, and Jordan". Yeah that's why


Oh, those are the only countries who get foreign aid? Breaking news. Not to mention that Egypt controls the Suez Canal and all the other political involvement we've had with them over the years.

Oh, and Egypt already tried to invade Israel. They lost. Your assertion is complete baseless and asinine.

No Trump 2024 was campaigning saying "america first no more foreign aid". Then gets in and says "nevermind we will still give aid to Israel, Egypt, and Jordan".

Israel because of course. Egypt and Jordan for them to stay peaceful to israel


This is completely made up bull****, hence why you have not provided any proof for these assertions. Those three countries, are the top of the aid list, but they're not the only ones receiving aid. Are we giving comparable aid to Somalia and Ethiopia to prevent their attack on Israel too?

Just admit you hate Israel and don't care if the Jews are annihilated and we can move on from listening to your complete nonsense.

I never said they were the only ones receiving aid lmfao. Calm down.


That's actually exactly what you said.

Where? I was reminding you what TRUMP said. Can you read?


Yes, I can read. Your implication was that Trump said no more aid except if it benefits Israel. Except, no he didn't, and we still provide aid (that cumulatively far exceeds the total aid you've self-ascribed to being for Israel) to a vast number of countries around the world.

Your schtick is tired, unoriginal, and transparent. Find a new hobby that isn't incessantly bashing Israel on the internet. You're not good at it.

You are doing what Cruz did to Tucker. Someone asks you reasonable questions/makes reasonable comments like "what's going on with Israel" and you immediately flip out, become hostile and belligerent.

Calm down, it's just the internet


Nope, just calling it how I see it. You're the one that spends an inordinate amount of time on the internet bashing a foreign country for "unknown" reasons. Just like Tucker "just asking questions" without being interested in a real answer.

And you're just trying to obfuscate since you don't have any legitimate evidence to substantiate your Israel-hating claim. Sorry you misinterpret direct as hostile and belligerent.

Again you're doing what Cruz did to Tucker- "why do you care about Israel so much". Of course that question has nefarious undertones which I'm sure you intend.

Uh israel seems to have a disproportionate amount of control over our country and is currently dragging us into another Middle East war. Are those reasons adequate?


80% of your posts are anti-Israel, ranging from accusing them of genocide in Gaza to running the GOP to threatening to nuke the US... we're going to just call the quacking animal a duck.
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Not sure why Cruz' Verdict podcast responding to the Tucker interview hasn't been posted yet.

Cruz vs Tucker Debate: On Israel & Iran- Trump is Right, Tucker is Wrong

Their summary of the podcast:

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  • Cruz vs. Carlson on Foreign Policy:
    • Cruz defends a strong U.S. alliance with Israel and supports aggressive action against Iran's nuclear ambitions.
    • Carlson is portrayed as advocating for isolationism, opposing U.S. involvement in foreign conflicts, and questioning support for Israel.
  • Tensions and "Gotcha" Moments:
    • Carlson challenges Cruz with questions like the population of Iran, which Cruz admits he didn't know offhand.
    • Cruz criticizes Carlson for using such moments to create viral clips rather than engage in substantive debate.
  • Iranian Threats Against Trump:
    • Cruz cites intelligence and DOJ reports alleging that Iran has plotted to assassinate Donald Trump and former Trump officials.
    • Carlson is skeptical or unaware of these claims, leading to a heated exchange.
  • Accusations of Anti-Israel Bias:
    • Cruz accuses Carlson of obsessively targeting Israel and groups like AIPAC, suggesting a double standard not applied to other U.S. allies.
  • Moral Clarity and American Exceptionalism:
    • Cruz argues against moral relativism, asserting that the U.S. and its leaders are fundamentally different from authoritarian regimes like Russia or Iran.
    • He emphasizes "peace through strength" and a foreign policy based on protecting American interests.
  • Trump's Position:
    • Trump is quoted supporting Cruz's stance and reaffirming his own "America First" doctrine, particularly in opposing a nuclear-armed Iran.
  • [/ol]
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    Keyno said:

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    Jet White said:

    Ah, okay. Does that minuscule percentage to Israel include all the military equipment/intel/etc. or is it only the direct dollar aid?

    Not being an ass, genuinely curious. I get where Israel is coming from here and I support them, at least certainly from a broad strokes perspective.


    Here is a breakdown of the historical aid to Israel: https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts

    Nowadays, their total assistance is almost all military. While Israel is the largest historical recipient of U.S. aid (for good reason), it still makes up a minuscule portion of our spending. The ROI of Israeli intel and military resources in that region far outweighs the modern spending, in my opinion. Especially when you consider all the things we spend money on.
    Egypt at number 2 should also be counted as aid to Israel because its payoff money so Egypt won't attack them


    This is complete nonsense. But I'm all for you continuing to make a fool of yourself.

    Remember when trump came in saying "no more foreign aid! Well except for Israel, Egypt, and Jordan". Yeah that's why


    Oh, those are the only countries who get foreign aid? Breaking news. Not to mention that Egypt controls the Suez Canal and all the other political involvement we've had with them over the years.

    Oh, and Egypt already tried to invade Israel. They lost. Your assertion is complete baseless and asinine.

    No Trump 2024 was campaigning saying "america first no more foreign aid". Then gets in and says "nevermind we will still give aid to Israel, Egypt, and Jordan".

    Israel because of course. Egypt and Jordan for them to stay peaceful to israel


    This is completely made up bull****, hence why you have not provided any proof for these assertions. Those three countries, are the top of the aid list, but they're not the only ones receiving aid. Are we giving comparable aid to Somalia and Ethiopia to prevent their attack on Israel too?

    Just admit you hate Israel and don't care if the Jews are annihilated and we can move on from listening to your complete nonsense.

    I never said they were the only ones receiving aid lmfao. Calm down.


    That's actually exactly what you said.

    Where? I was reminding you what TRUMP said. Can you read?


    Yes, I can read. Your implication was that Trump said no more aid except if it benefits Israel. Except, no he didn't, and we still provide aid (that cumulatively far exceeds the total aid you've self-ascribed to being for Israel) to a vast number of countries around the world.

    Your schtick is tired, unoriginal, and transparent. Find a new hobby that isn't incessantly bashing Israel on the internet. You're not good at it.

    You are doing what Cruz did to Tucker. Someone asks you reasonable questions/makes reasonable comments like "what's going on with Israel" and you immediately flip out, become hostile and belligerent.

    Calm down, it's just the internet


    Nope, just calling it how I see it. You're the one that spends an inordinate amount of time on the internet bashing a foreign country for "unknown" reasons. Just like Tucker "just asking questions" without being interested in a real answer.

    And you're just trying to obfuscate since you don't have any legitimate evidence to substantiate your Israel-hating claim. Sorry you misinterpret direct as hostile and belligerent.

    Again you're doing what Cruz did to Tucker- "why do you care about Israel so much". Of course that question has nefarious undertones which I'm sure you intend.

    Uh israel seems to have a disproportionate amount of control over our country and is currently dragging us into another Middle East war. Are those reasons adequate?


    No, because they don't have a disproportionate amount of control over our country unless you think being an ally means control. If Israel had control over our country, a lot of things in that region would look different.

    But I know. Jews fundraise money for an interest group, so they must be subverting American interests on the behalf of a foreign nation. That's the only and most reasonable explanation, right?

    Also, Tucker was a complete, condescending jackass in that interview. It says a lot that your bashing Cruz's behavior.

    I'm sorry my man, but if our country doesn't want to go to war, and we have a president who campaigned on no new wars, but a foreign country wants the war so we are doing it; that's disproportionate control


    Trump has said Iran can't have a nuclear weapon for over a decade. And the U.S. has not directly engaged any troops for "new wars" since he took office. Peace through strength doesn't work without the strength part.

    If Trump was beholden to Israel or AIPAC, Fordow would be a crater by now and the Ayatollah would be dead. Instead, Trump is still looking for a diplomatic off ramp.

    People like you only see what they want to see in pursuit of justifying an anti-Israel worldview. There are so many gaps in your logic, it's impressive that you can't see them. All you can do is hand wave and say "this money is proof" or twist Trumps words to fit your worldview.

    It's so transparent.
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    Phatbob said:

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    Jet White said:

    Ah, okay. Does that minuscule percentage to Israel include all the military equipment/intel/etc. or is it only the direct dollar aid?

    Not being an ass, genuinely curious. I get where Israel is coming from here and I support them, at least certainly from a broad strokes perspective.


    Here is a breakdown of the historical aid to Israel: https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts

    Nowadays, their total assistance is almost all military. %A0While Israel is the largest historical recipient of U.S. aid (for good reason), it still makes up a minuscule portion of our spending. The ROI of Israeli intel and military resources in that region far outweighs the modern spending, in my opinion. Especially when you consider all the things we spend money on.
    Egypt at number 2 should also be counted as aid to Israel because its payoff money so Egypt won't attack them


    This is complete nonsense. But I'm all for you continuing to make a fool of yourself.

    Remember when trump came in saying "no more foreign aid! Well except for Israel, Egypt, and Jordan". Yeah that's why


    Oh, those are the only countries who get foreign aid? %A0Breaking news. Not to mention that Egypt controls the Suez Canal and all the other political involvement we've had with them over the years.

    Oh, and Egypt already tried to invade Israel. They lost. %A0Your assertion is complete baseless and asinine.

    No Trump 2024 was campaigning saying "america first no more foreign aid". Then gets in and says "nevermind we will still give aid to Israel, Egypt, and Jordan".

    Israel because of course. Egypt and Jordan for them to stay peaceful to israel


    This is completely made up bull****, hence why you have not provided any proof for these assertions. Those three countries, are the top of the aid list, but they're not the only ones receiving aid. Are we giving comparable aid to Somalia and Ethiopia to prevent their attack on Israel too?

    Just admit you hate Israel and don't care if the Jews are annihilated and we can move on from listening to your complete nonsense.

    I never said they were the only ones receiving aid lmfao. Calm down.


    That's actually exactly what you said.

    Where? I was reminding you what TRUMP said. Can you read?


    Yes, I can read. Your implication was that Trump said no more aid except if it benefits Israel. Except, no he didn't, and we still provide aid (that cumulatively far exceeds the total aid you've self-ascribed to being for Israel) to a vast number of countries around the world.

    Your schtick is tired, unoriginal, and transparent. Find a new hobby that isn't incessantly bashing Israel on the internet. You're not good at it.

    You are doing what Cruz did to Tucker. Someone asks you reasonable questions/makes reasonable comments like "what's going on with Israel" and you immediately flip out, become hostile and belligerent.

    Calm down, it's just the internet


    Nope, just calling it how I see it. You're the one that spends an inordinate amount of time on the internet bashing a foreign country for "unknown" reasons. Just like Tucker "just asking questions" without being interested in a real answer.

    And you're just trying to obfuscate since you don't have any legitimate evidence to substantiate your Israel-hating claim. Sorry you misinterpret direct as hostile and belligerent.

    Again you're doing what Cruz did to Tucker- "why do you care about Israel so much". Of course that question has nefarious undertones which I'm sure you intend.

    Uh israel seems to have a disproportionate amount of control over our country and is currently dragging us into another Middle East war. Are those reasons adequate?


    80% of your posts are anti-Israel, ranging from accusing them of genocide in Gaza to running the GOP to threatening to nuke the US... we're going to just call the quacking animal a duck.
    OK well is this not a political forum. Israel is currently involved in or driving all of the most important geopolitical events going on in the world, as well as domestically. Am I required to support them? They are a foreign country and I am an American.

    Would you prefer I comment more on Con Inc friendly topics likes men in women's sports or something?
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    Keyno said:

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    Jet White said:

    Ah, okay. Does that minuscule percentage to Israel include all the military equipment/intel/etc. or is it only the direct dollar aid?

    Not being an ass, genuinely curious. I get where Israel is coming from here and I support them, at least certainly from a broad strokes perspective.


    Here is a breakdown of the historical aid to Israel: https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts

    Nowadays, their total assistance is almost all military. While Israel is the largest historical recipient of U.S. aid (for good reason), it still makes up a minuscule portion of our spending. The ROI of Israeli intel and military resources in that region far outweighs the modern spending, in my opinion. Especially when you consider all the things we spend money on.
    Egypt at number 2 should also be counted as aid to Israel because its payoff money so Egypt won't attack them


    This is complete nonsense. But I'm all for you continuing to make a fool of yourself.

    Remember when trump came in saying "no more foreign aid! Well except for Israel, Egypt, and Jordan". Yeah that's why


    Oh, those are the only countries who get foreign aid? Breaking news. Not to mention that Egypt controls the Suez Canal and all the other political involvement we've had with them over the years.

    Oh, and Egypt already tried to invade Israel. They lost. Your assertion is complete baseless and asinine.

    No Trump 2024 was campaigning saying "america first no more foreign aid". Then gets in and says "nevermind we will still give aid to Israel, Egypt, and Jordan".

    Israel because of course. Egypt and Jordan for them to stay peaceful to israel


    This is completely made up bull****, hence why you have not provided any proof for these assertions. Those three countries, are the top of the aid list, but they're not the only ones receiving aid. Are we giving comparable aid to Somalia and Ethiopia to prevent their attack on Israel too?

    Just admit you hate Israel and don't care if the Jews are annihilated and we can move on from listening to your complete nonsense.

    I never said they were the only ones receiving aid lmfao. Calm down.


    That's actually exactly what you said.

    Where? I was reminding you what TRUMP said. Can you read?


    Yes, I can read. Your implication was that Trump said no more aid except if it benefits Israel. Except, no he didn't, and we still provide aid (that cumulatively far exceeds the total aid you've self-ascribed to being for Israel) to a vast number of countries around the world.

    Your schtick is tired, unoriginal, and transparent. Find a new hobby that isn't incessantly bashing Israel on the internet. You're not good at it.

    You are doing what Cruz did to Tucker. Someone asks you reasonable questions/makes reasonable comments like "what's going on with Israel" and you immediately flip out, become hostile and belligerent.

    Calm down, it's just the internet


    Nope, just calling it how I see it. You're the one that spends an inordinate amount of time on the internet bashing a foreign country for "unknown" reasons. Just like Tucker "just asking questions" without being interested in a real answer.

    And you're just trying to obfuscate since you don't have any legitimate evidence to substantiate your Israel-hating claim. Sorry you misinterpret direct as hostile and belligerent.

    Again you're doing what Cruz did to Tucker- "why do you care about Israel so much". Of course that question has nefarious undertones which I'm sure you intend.

    Uh israel seems to have a disproportionate amount of control over our country and is currently dragging us into another Middle East war. Are those reasons adequate?


    No, because they don't have a disproportionate amount of control over our country unless you think being an ally means control. If Israel had control over our country, a lot of things in that region would look different.

    But I know. Jews fundraise money for an interest group, so they must be subverting American interests on the behalf of a foreign nation. That's the only and most reasonable explanation, right?

    Also, Tucker was a complete, condescending jackass in that interview. It says a lot that your bashing Cruz's behavior.

    I'm sorry my man, but if our country doesn't want to go to war, and we have a president who campaigned on no new wars, but a foreign country wants the war so we are doing it; that's disproportionate control


    Dropping a few bombs isn't "going to war"
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    Israel is absolutely at war with Iran. Feel however you feel about what our level of direct or indirect support should be, they are at war.

    Edit: Unless you mean actual bombs dropped by the US, at which point yes, that's still a war, by definition.
    Teslag
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    Jet White said:

    Israel is absolutely at war with Iran. Feel however you feel about what our level of direct or indirect support should be, they are at war.


    Of course Israel is. We weren't. And if our actions are limited to dropping a few bunker busters or air strikes for support facilities that's not exactly being drug into "war".
    Keyno
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    KvTrump has said Iran can't have a nuclear weapon for over a decade. And the U.S. has not directly engaged any troops for "new wars" since he took office. Peace through strength doesn't work without the strength part. said:


    If Trump was beholden to Israel or AIPAC, Fordow would be a crater by now and the Ayatollah would be dead. Instead, Trump is still looking for a diplomatic off ramp.

    People like you only see what they want to see in pursuit of justifying an anti-Israel worldview. There are so many gaps in your logic, it's impressive that you can't see them. All you can do is hand wave and say "this money is proof" or twist Trumps words to fit your worldview.

    It's so transparent.
    OK so to be clear, if we crater Fordow or kill Khamenei, you'll concede Israel controls Trump? Haha I'm kidding, of course you wouldn't.

    Yes, Trump WANTS a diplomatic solution. But Iran won't deal with us because Israel is still bombing them. Trump has said he cannot stop them. That makes no sense to me- we give them unlimited money, weapons, security guarantees, and yet we apparently have no control over them- even if their actions are keeping us from pursuing our goals and interests. Definitely a weird relationship.
     
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