Mass terror attack in Australian beach...

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Also, during my time in Australia, I wrote using local language. s instead of z, things like that. Like how in the movie Firefox, Clint Eastwood has to think in Russian. Same deal.


I work for an Aussie company and their corporate Gmail accounts are configured to spellcheck everything against everything.

Does the abbreviation NHTFS bring to mind a phrase you find used among your Aussie colleagues?


This reminded me....I was interviewing for a job based in Canada about 3 years ago and the guy who I was to replace was American and he informed me that their corporate software had built in Canadian nanny tech. Example: if you sent an email on Sunday the email app would prompt you at Send and ask you to reconsider sending the email because it was the weekend. They didn't think it was fair to email your people over the weekend. Keep in mind this was for a job that is 24/7 - 7 days per week. There are no off hours in this job. It would also check your email before sending to confirm you weren't sending anything that sounded combative, hostile, or just not friendly. I didn't see any examples for that one.

He told me [paraphrased] "Since you are from Texas, you are going to have to change how you operate. I assume you are pretty direct and clear about your intentions and language you use if you are like other Texans I've worked with. That will not go over well here. You will need to dial your personality back and be overly nice and friendly and not rock the boat." He was from the mid-west.

I went through about 4 months of interviews for this gig and ultimately we all decided it wasn't a good fit.

One of the things I struggled with was all the behind your back gossiping in the office.

I'd say something in a meeting and the next day the "Chinese Whispers" would get back to my manager that I had said or done something completely different. Then you had to try to figure out which one of these little beyotches went behind your back instead of saying something to you directly.

And as an American, I ALWAYS had a target on my back. I had to be correct 100% of the time but they didn't have to. And if I was EVER wrong, I'd never hear the end of it. By and large, they appreciated having a subject matter expert on staff but they hated the fact that it was an American who they didn't succeed in running off within the first 6-12 months.


I work in a very global capacity and what was once a dream to live and work outside the US has gone by the wayside as a result. As much as Americans and US capitalism is hated on, the rest of the world is an overly dramatic, backstabbing **** show in the workplace. It's honestly exhausting.



funny that a similar British colony would be so catty and idiotic towards Americans.

working for an Israeli company for 6 years and that has never once happened-

they LOVE that I am an American and are in awe of how professional Americans are when it comes to presenting at meetings and organizational skills and showing up on time for meetings and just having things 100% always organized.

I can see that. I deal with a lot of Israeli clients and they operate a lot more like Americans from what I've gleaned.
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Posted this on the Brown thread, but it's applicable here as well.....

It is beyond time to hold these people accountable and punish them accordingly. I'm also in full support of a complete ban of immigration here from any Muslim country, as should the rest of Americans who have any common sense whatsoever. Between this and Australia, I'm not really sure how much more evidence people need that Muslims aren't trying to assimilate and are here and breeding rapidly in an attempted takeover. We're not far off from complete chaotic violence in Minnesota and Michigan.
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BlackGold said:

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Where am I justifying any murder? Don't be obtuse. Murdering someone for their beliefs is clearly not ok. I'm clearly speaking in a historical context. If you think I'm lying or making stuff up, read a book and take a history class.

That's the key fact we should acknowledge here though. Christians and Jews participating in these kinds of acts are not normal and common and are part of ancient history.

Meanwhile, the Muslims continue their Jihad against the rest of us here in 2025 and will continue to do so until humanity is extinct.

So there just isn't an equitable viewpoint here. The reality is that this type of violence is propagated by Muslims 99 times out of 100 in modern times.


You can't look at everything from a short term perspective though, especially not religious zealotry, since it has been happening forever and will continue to happen long after we're all dead and gone. If you do, you'll get the current group-think that seems to be propagating throughout these forums - (2) get rid of the other side. Those same provocative thoughts were probably the same ones that kicked off wars and murder in the first place.

(1) I don't have an answer on how to fix what is currently going on, no one does, it's been happening for thousands of years and we still can't figure out a solution, but killing the other side will certainly not help, and only exacerbate the problem(s).


The answer to the question you seek (1) is bolded above (2).

Yes, it really is that simple.
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Looks like they have charged the son shooter now and are expecting to transport him to a prison in the near future.
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Accused Bondi terrorist charged with 59 offences, including 15 counts of murder

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YouBet said:

This reminded me....I was interviewing for a job based in Canada about 3 years ago and the guy who I was to replace was American and he informed me that their corporate software had built in Canadian nanny tech. Example: if you sent an email on Sunday the email app would prompt you at Send and ask you to reconsider sending the email because it was the weekend. They didn't think it was fair to email your people over the weekend. Keep in mind this was for a job that is 24/7 - 7 days per week. There are no off hours in this job. It would also check your email before sending to confirm you weren't sending anything that sounded combative, hostile, or just not friendly. I didn't see any examples for that one.

He told me [paraphrased] "Since you are from Texas, you are going to have to change how you operate. I assume you are pretty direct and clear about your intentions and language you use if you are like other Texans I've worked with. That will not go over well here. You will need to dial your personality back and be overly nice and friendly and not rock the boat." He was from the mid-west.

I went through about 4 months of interviews for this gig and ultimately we all decided it wasn't a good fit.


Read this imagining that you heard these "dial it back" comments and replied with a "Well then y'all can kiss my ass" in an exaggerated Texas drawl


Edit to correct whatever the hell my phone did to my post...
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Any charges for the police who were cowards? Even just a firing?
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HollywoodBQ said:

YouBet said:

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Also, during my time in Australia, I wrote using local language. s instead of z, things like that. Like how in the movie Firefox, Clint Eastwood has to think in Russian. Same deal.


I work for an Aussie company and their corporate Gmail accounts are configured to spellcheck everything against everything.

Does the abbreviation NHTFS bring to mind a phrase you find used among your Aussie colleagues?


This reminded me....I was interviewing for a job based in Canada about 3 years ago and the guy who I was to replace was American and he informed me that their corporate software had built in Canadian nanny tech. Example: if you sent an email on Sunday the email app would prompt you at Send and ask you to reconsider sending the email because it was the weekend. They didn't think it was fair to email your people over the weekend. Keep in mind this was for a job that is 24/7 - 7 days per week. There are no off hours in this job. It would also check your email before sending to confirm you weren't sending anything that sounded combative, hostile, or just not friendly. I didn't see any examples for that one.

He told me [paraphrased] "Since you are from Texas, you are going to have to change how you operate. I assume you are pretty direct and clear about your intentions and language you use if you are like other Texans I've worked with. That will not go over well here. You will need to dial your personality back and be overly nice and friendly and not rock the boat." He was from the mid-west.

I went through about 4 months of interviews for this gig and ultimately we all decided it wasn't a good fit.

One of the things I struggled with was all the behind your back gossiping in the office.

I'd say something in a meeting and the next day the "Chinese Whispers" would get back to my manager that I had said or done something completely different. Then you had to try to figure out which one of these little beyotches went behind your back instead of saying something to you directly.

And as an American, I ALWAYS had a target on my back. I had to be correct 100% of the time but they didn't have to. And if I was EVER wrong, I'd never hear the end of it. By and large, they appreciated having a subject matter expert on staff but they hated the fact that it was an American who they didn't succeed in running off within the first 6-12 months.

I've had some bouts with Australia's version of Tall Poppy Syndrome.

It's kind of hard to explain, but Australia's general friendliness is also what holds it back at times. The way I explain the day-to-day culture is that most Aussies generally want everyone else to have a good time, whatever that means for them. It's a fairly progressive culture, Melbourne leading the charge on that front, and mostly a live-and-let-live kind of approach.

At the same time, any time anyone gets a bit too showy or is a bit too proud of anything, Aussies tend to pull them back down ("the tallest poppy is the one that gets clipped"). I came over here with a company I had been with for 15 years and got completely knocked on my ass for the first six months because I was still talking about our products and services the way I would if I were talking to a New Yorker. I had to learn how to be loudly modest (it sounds like an oxymoron and, well, it is) to push things forward here.

In the same sense it's easily believable to see how someone could fly under the radar like this father/son duo did. If they kept their mouths shut and weren't too shouty about anything, they would just be assumed to be living their lives like anyone else in Sydney.
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bthotugigem05 said:

HollywoodBQ said:

YouBet said:

Ulysses90 said:

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Also, during my time in Australia, I wrote using local language. s instead of z, things like that. Like how in the movie Firefox, Clint Eastwood has to think in Russian. Same deal.


I work for an Aussie company and their corporate Gmail accounts are configured to spellcheck everything against everything.

Does the abbreviation NHTFS bring to mind a phrase you find used among your Aussie colleagues?


This reminded me....I was interviewing for a job based in Canada about 3 years ago and the guy who I was to replace was American and he informed me that their corporate software had built in Canadian nanny tech. Example: if you sent an email on Sunday the email app would prompt you at Send and ask you to reconsider sending the email because it was the weekend. They didn't think it was fair to email your people over the weekend. Keep in mind this was for a job that is 24/7 - 7 days per week. There are no off hours in this job. It would also check your email before sending to confirm you weren't sending anything that sounded combative, hostile, or just not friendly. I didn't see any examples for that one.

He told me [paraphrased] "Since you are from Texas, you are going to have to change how you operate. I assume you are pretty direct and clear about your intentions and language you use if you are like other Texans I've worked with. That will not go over well here. You will need to dial your personality back and be overly nice and friendly and not rock the boat." He was from the mid-west.

I went through about 4 months of interviews for this gig and ultimately we all decided it wasn't a good fit.

One of the things I struggled with was all the behind your back gossiping in the office.

I'd say something in a meeting and the next day the "Chinese Whispers" would get back to my manager that I had said or done something completely different. Then you had to try to figure out which one of these little beyotches went behind your back instead of saying something to you directly.

And as an American, I ALWAYS had a target on my back. I had to be correct 100% of the time but they didn't have to. And if I was EVER wrong, I'd never hear the end of it. By and large, they appreciated having a subject matter expert on staff but they hated the fact that it was an American who they didn't succeed in running off within the first 6-12 months.

I've had some bouts with Australia's version of Tall Poppy Syndrome.

It's kind of hard to explain, but Australia's general friendliness is also what holds it back at times. The way I explain the day-to-day culture is that most Aussies generally want everyone else to have a good time, whatever that means for them. It's a fairly progressive culture, Melbourne leading the charge on that front, and mostly a live-and-let-live kind of approach.

At the same time, any time anyone gets a bit too showy or is a bit too proud of anything, Aussies tend to pull them back down ("the tallest poppy is the one that gets clipped"). I came over here with a company I had been with for 15 years and got completely knocked on my ass for the first six months because I was still talking about our products and services the way I would if I were talking to a New Yorker. I had to learn how to be loudly modest (it sounds like an oxymoron and, well, it is) to push things forward here.

In the same sense it's easily believable to see how someone could fly under the radar like this father/son duo did. If they kept their mouths shut and weren't too shouty about anything, they would just be assumed to be living their lives like anyone else in Sydney.

Sounds like you've had some good experiences.

It took me about 18 months before I had my First Epiphany.
And a few more years before I had my Second Epiphany.

First Epiphany was - Americans only want THE BEST. Australians want you to do YOUR BEST. And, if your best isn't good enough, that's OK - as long as you had a fair go and put in your best effort.

In some ways, the Patton speech about how Americans love a winner and abhor a loser comes into play.

Second Epiphany was - Nothing in this country actually matters. I came to this realisation a few years later after there had been a couple of major bank outages including one where Australian customers of Commonwealth Bank were unable to access their accounts for 3 days over a weekend. No ATM card, nothing. And then a few years later, it happened again to the same bank.

I had one month where my company didn't make payroll due to a banking snafu. No big deal. The money should be there in a day or two. Or at least after the weekend. Try telling that to the Registrar's Office at swanky Private Girls School. Hey, I know that fees are due but, I'll have the money in a few days. No worries Mate! $12,000 for this term, I'm good for it, trust me.

And the one that took the cake wasn't when the ATO (Australian Tax Office) systems crashed when tax returns were due. It was the following year when it happened again. Can you imagine if the American IRS crashed on April 15th, two years running?

After the First Epiphany, my level of frustration just disappeared. And after the Second Epiphany, it made living in Australia much easier.

Similar to what you experienced with Sales, I had a top Sales guy come over from the US and he flamed out after 10 months and headed home. When he showed me his sales plans and presentations he prepared for customers along with financials, I told him that's amazing. Nobody here is doing anything like that. You'd do very well in Los Angeles with that strategy but none of your customers will understand it and it is not going to affect their buying behaviour. They buy for completely different reasons. Profit is a secondary or tertiary consideration.

Another reason that guy struggled is that he was super loud and flashy and didn't show the proper respect to the office staff. Even if you're the top sales rep, you still have to turn up to the Office Christmas Party and have some drinks with the receptionist and the order entry girls. Otherwise, they're not going to help you when you need it. It's much more of a team culture.
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YouBet said:

Ulysses90 said:

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Also, during my time in Australia, I wrote using local language. s instead of z, things like that. Like how in the movie Firefox, Clint Eastwood has to think in Russian. Same deal.


I work for an Aussie company and their corporate Gmail accounts are configured to spellcheck everything against everything.

Does the abbreviation NHTFS bring to mind a phrase you find used among your Aussie colleagues?


This reminded me....I was interviewing for a job based in Canada about 3 years ago and the guy who I was to replace was American and he informed me that their corporate software had built in Canadian nanny tech. Example: if you sent an email on Sunday the email app would prompt you at Send and ask you to reconsider sending the email because it was the weekend. They didn't think it was fair to email your people over the weekend. Keep in mind this was for a job that is 24/7 - 7 days per week. There are no off hours in this job. It would also check your email before sending to confirm you weren't sending anything that sounded combative, hostile, or just not friendly. I didn't see any examples for that one.

He told me [paraphrased] "Since you are from Texas, you are going to have to change how you operate. I assume you are pretty direct and clear about your intentions and language you use if you are like other Texans I've worked with. That will not go over well here. You will need to dial your personality back and be overly nice and friendly and not rock the boat." He was from the mid-west.

I went through about 4 months of interviews for this gig and ultimately we all decided it wasn't a good fit.


Weaponized kindness. Very Canadian
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Russell Crowe is a great man and posted a tribute to 10 year old Matilda on his social media:

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And for all the Hamas lovers in the United States-

once again we see Muslim terrorists deliberately target and SHOOT A RIFLE AT YOUNG GIRLS

just as happened at the rave festival in Nova and on October 7.
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Looks like the AFP are widening the investigation and trying to figure out who these shooters were in contact with.

Looks like The Philippines is going to be of particular interest and they're even going to Hyderabad to talk to the father's family.

The mosque where they worshipped says they had nothing to do with these guys. And apparently the son went to a gym a few times but that gym has disavowed any knowledge of him.

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HollywoodBQ said:

The mosque where they worshipped says they had nothing to do with these guys.


I don't believe this for a second.
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HollywoodBQ said:

Looks like the AFP are widening the investigation and trying to figure out who these shooters were in contact with.

Looks like The Philippines is going to be of particular interest and they're even going to Hyderabad to talk to the father's family.

The mosque where they worshipped says they had nothing to do with these guys. And apparently the son went to a gym a few times but that gym has disavowed any knowledge of him.




Looks like they weren't alone and the aloha snack bars have more going on

https://www.gbnews.com/news/world/sydney-police-arrest-five-men-bondi-beach
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Apparently this set of guys came up from Victoria (Melbourne).

Now that the AFP is running the show, I do expect more answers than if it was just NSW Police.
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when the Hamas terrorists in the USA chant 'free Palestine" and "from the river to the sea"

don't forget the little Jewish girls murdered by their terrorist buddies

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FINALLY!

I am sure there are millions of Australians humiliated by how weak the leftist government has been in protecting their country the last few years.
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Took 15 people getting murdered for them to go arrest who we all know are very much known terrorists just hanging out in Australia. Pathetic.
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

HollywoodBQ said:

The mosque where they worshipped says they had nothing to do with these guys.


I don't believe this for a second.


It is called omerta.
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LMCane said:

FINALLY!

I am sure there are millions of Australians humiliated by how weak the leftist government has been in protecting their country the last few years.


A two pronged attack, actually. The government won't protect you and they won't let you protect yourself.
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Squadron7 said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

HollywoodBQ said:

The mosque where they worshipped says they had nothing to do with these guys.


I don't believe this for a second.


It is called omerta.

That's what the Sicilian mafia calls it. muslims call it taqiyya
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They were expecting hundreds for a paddle out tribute to the victims at Bondi and it looks like they got more than 1,000 people out in the water.

Very impressive tribute.
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Yeah, that'll do it, fascist.
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Who?mikejones! said:



Looks like a lot of boating accidents are going to happen if any Aussie is lucky enough to have a gun right now. Insanity.

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Who?mikejones! said:



China should be loving this.

There was a book that school children had to read which they made into a movie about 15 years ago called "Tomorrow When the War Began".

It's an Australian story about a group of High Schoolers who were camping in the bush when they get invaded by a non-descript Asian nation. It is very much the Australian version of the American classic "Red Dawn".

Those 1,500 permanent party US Marines in Darwin, NT are going to be working overtime keeping the Chinese from invading.

Unfortunately, even if they had guns, I don't think the Aussie kids (or the American kids) could pull off a resistance like this any longer.

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Australia is a really stupid country now. Quite amazing how far they've fallen from their former tough mindset.
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YouBet said:

Australia is a really stupid country now. Quite amazing how far they've fallen from their former tough mindset.

You can add the Brits & Germans to that list of shame as well.

Would add Japan to the list but they're actually trending towards less tolerance towards islam of late
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You can't make this up, Kangaroo Kops at their best. " One survivor, Vanessa Miller, described her harrowing ordeal, where she was separated from her three-year-old daughter during the attack. Pinned down, she tried to reach for an injured officer's firearm to defend herself, but police were more concerned about her getting that weapon than the terrorists. "

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These police officers were hiding behind a car... I tried to grab one of their guns. Another one grabbed me and said 'no.' I hope they are hearing this. You are weak. You could have saved so many more people's lives. They were just watching this all happen, holding me back."

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Nobody with open eyes can any longer doubt that the danger to personal freedom comes chiefly from the left. F. A. Hayek



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Who?mikejones! said:



That is so stupid the cruel thing to say would be perhaps the PM set in motion. It is THAT contrary and stupid a reaction to the facts of what happened. No wonder `conspiracy' claims get such traction -- you have total globalist-toned traitors to their constituents seemingly legion where the matter of importing 3rd world regressive mindsets is concerned.

For example, it would make far more sense to do a general expulsion of those recent arrivals en-bloc than to further dis-arm Australians in the face of those importee's desire to take down Western culture.
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Bystander who took down shooter hit the lottery!

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Appears that Australia has chosen the totalitarian theocracy with leftism standing in for the religion
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lol. Dusting off their COVID playbook and applying it to Muslim terrorism...for your protection. Just two more weeks and Islamic Terrorism will be solved.

NEVER GIVE UP YOUR GUNS.
 
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