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So is the Muslim vs Jewish people the result of what's been going on in Palestine? It sure seems things have ramped up the last few years.

Also who is behind all the antisemitism going on in some universities in the US? Who is behind these schools financially?

Crazy world right now

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QATAR and the Muslim Brotherhood



leadership of Qatar with Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal and PLO leader Abbas

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There are now a total of 2 cool people in Australia

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And seeing as how this is Australia, the Muslim being the cool hero is definitely the most surprising.

The praise he's getting from Trump and Bibi are well deserved. It's also good to see a GoFundMe is going to help him out for his bravery.

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Winston Churchill's famous quote:

"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last"

meaning that trying to satisfy an aggressor through concessions (appeasement) only delays your inevitable destruction,

as the aggressor will eventually turn on you.

This quote, often used to criticize policies of compromise with hostile forces like Nazi Germany, highlights the futility of appeasement, a lesson Churchill learned firsthand.

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How much of the left's behavior is due to mental illness, and how much is your run-of-the-mill idiocy? We may never know. So many of their policies are absolute disasters that everybody can see, but they just can't course correct. Unlike the libs/Marxists/champagne socialists of The West, even Neville Chamberlain eventually realized he was an idiot and did a complete 180 and became supper supportive of the war effort

No Spin Ag said:

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FobTies said:

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There are now a total of 2 cool people in Australia

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And seeing as how this is Australia, the Muslim being the cool hero is definitely the most surprising.

The praise he's getting from Trump and Bibi are well deserved. It's also good to see a GoFundMe is going to help him out for his bravery.

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Looked like a classic Lebanese Aussie guy. Probably a Canterbury supporter from Sydney's Inner West.

The mom would be the first one on the deportation plane along with this entire family.

God almighty.

"We should just try to dodge the bullets as they shoot at us. They are just celebrating their culture which we should respect."

That should fix it:

SYDNEY, Dec 15 (Reuters) - Australia vowed stricter gun laws on Monday as it began mourning victims of its worst mass shooting in almost 30 years, in which police accused a father-and-son duo of killing 15 people at a Jewish celebration at Sydney's famed Bondi Beach.

— Idrees Ali (@idreesali114) December 15, 2025

The answer to leftists is always the gun, or the car, or the provider of explosive components, or something the IDF did, or Donald Trump being mean, when a Jihadist strike happens. Good job Aussies, I had to double check this wasn't a parody account.

fullback44 said:

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So is the Muslim vs Jewish people the result of what's been going on in Palestine? It sure seems things have ramped up the last few years.

Also who is behind all the antisemitism going on in some universities in the US? Who is behind these schools financially?

Crazy world right now

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The Muslim v Jewish v Christian fighting has been going on for 2000+ years and getting killed for your beliefs has been happening since the dawn of time. If we're being honest, this isn't anything new.

What's crazy in today's world is that all these perps are on watch lists and known about, yet seemingly allowed to carry out their plans.

How does it take over 20 minutes for police in a major metropolitan city to respond to an active shooter?

Mike88 said:

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How does it take over 20 minutes for police in a major metropolitan city to respond to an active shooter?

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They were looking for their balls.

Mike88 said:

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How does it take over 20 minutes for police in a major metropolitan city to respond to an active shooter?

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Unlike the UK, all New South Wales Police Officers are issued a Glock pistol.
So there should have been an armed response.

As mentioned earlier, I've been to Bondi a number of times and it's always crawling with cops.

There's even a "cop shop" substation about 450m away from the bridge where the shooters were.

Apparently the attendees who were murdered were attending an event called Chanukah by the Sea organized by Chabad Bondi. I assume it must be a relatively new event.
https://events.humanitix.com/chanukah-by-the-sea-2025

Note that the ad does say "Bookings Essential" so the attendees would have had to register in advance for the event.

Reading the flyer and knowing what happened is just heart wrenching. Especially with the location given as - by the Children's Playground.

Mike88 said:

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How does it take over 20 minutes for police in a major metropolitan city to respond to an active shooter?

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They only care about their pensions

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BlackGold said:

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fullback44 said:

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So is the Muslim vs Jewish people the result of what's been going on in Palestine? It sure seems things have ramped up the last few years.

Also who is behind all the antisemitism going on in some universities in the US? Who is behind these schools financially?

Crazy world right now

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The Muslim v Jewish v Christian fighting has been going on for 2000+ years and getting killed for your beliefs has been happening since the dawn of time. If we're being honest, this isn't anything new.

What's crazy in today's world is that all these perps are on watch lists and known about, yet seemingly allowed to carry out their plans.

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The primary difference being the Jews and Christians haven't really been killing others for their beliefs during most of that 2000+ years unlike the Muslims who rape and murder the rest of us at any chance they can get. You can't make this situation equitable.

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This event is obviously horrible and there is no condoning it or trying to measure it against other tragic events.

I'm saying murdering people for their beliefs has been happening forever and it's a uniquely human problem. Every side feels there is justification for their actions when it comes to their beliefs. This is not new.

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There were 4 officers there within minutes, 3 of them were females and did nothing

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Oh, hey, I found the problem!

This event is obviously horrible and there is no condoning it or trying to measure it against other tragic events.

I'm saying murdering people for their beliefs has been happening forever and it's a uniquely human problem. Every side feels there is justification for their actions when it comes to their beliefs. This is not new.

It's not new, but only one side is still doing it.
There is no justification in this day and age. Please don't try to. Islam is not compatible with western society.

Where am I justifying any murder? Don't be obtuse. Murdering someone for their beliefs is clearly not ok. I'm clearly speaking in a historical context. If you think I'm lying or making stuff up, read a book and take a history class.

No kidding. This guy was on a terror watch list from 6 years ago. The answer is not to ban guns even harder, its to expel every single person still remaining on that list from the country permanently.

Seen pics posted of two of the cops standing in the open with their hands above their heads, and a third hiding behind a car with their weapon still holstered.

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Where am I justifying any murder? Don't be obtuse. Murdering someone for their beliefs is clearly not ok. I'm clearly speaking in a historical context. If you think I'm lying or making stuff up, read a book and take a history class.

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And you're ridiculously pre-occupied with irrelevant data in your attempt to downplay Islamic terrorism

The concern is this is going on NOW

Who cares what happened hundreds of years ago, and why are you yammering about it? It has nothing to do with the events of the weekend, and everything else that's going on with Islamic terrorism

Refreshing to see at least one Aussie gets it.

This is what a real leader looks like pic.twitter.com/7BBLzmmsNZ

— Rita Panahi (@RitaPanahi) December 15, 2025

Rita is a great follow, fwiw.

YouBet said:

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BlackGold said:

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Where am I justifying any murder? Don't be obtuse. Murdering someone for their beliefs is clearly not ok. I'm clearly speaking in a historical context. If you think I'm lying or making stuff up, read a book and take a history class.

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That's the key fact we should acknowledge here though. Christians and Jews participating in these kinds of acts are not normal and common and are part of ancient history.

Meanwhile, the Muslims continue their Jihad against the rest of us here in 2025 and will continue to do so until humanity is extinct.

So there just isn't an equitable viewpoint here. The reality is that this type of violence is propagated by Muslims 99 times out of 100 in modern times.

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You can't look at everything from a short term perspective though, especially not religious zealotry, since it has been happening forever and will continue to happen long after we're all dead and gone. If you do, you'll get the current group-think that seems to be propagating throughout these forums - get rid of the other side. Those same provocative thoughts were probably the same ones that kicked off wars and murder in the first place.

I don't have an answer on how to fix what is currently going on, no one does, it's been happening for thousands of years and we still can't figure out a solution, but killing the other side will certainly not help, and only exacerbate the problem(s).

Who?mikejones! said:

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Premier of New South Wales calls for more gun-control after the t*rrorist attack in Australia

Australia already has strict gun laws.
The t*rrorists were on the police’s radar for years.

Defenseless victims took gunfire for 20 minutes before police engaged.

How about just stop… pic.twitter.com/cidgYRqB9P

— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) December 15, 2025

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It was not just 20 minutes before the police engaged. It was 20 minutes while the police sat paralyzed in fear.

https://nypost.com/2025/12/14/world-news/bondi-beach-terror-survivor-describes-how-cops-froze-during-20-minute-shooting-rampage/#:~:text=breaking-,Bondi%20Beach%20terror%20survivor%20describes%20how%20cops%20'froze'%20during%2020,Beach%2C%20which%20left%2011%20dead.

Removing the ability to effectively defend yourself while waiting for police to protect worked so well at Bondi Beach and Uvalde, right?

it's honestly baffling that we even have a handful of islamic apologists on here. wake tf up.you gonna wait until you're personally connected to it before you realize that it's the actual opposite of religion of peace? Amazing how many people float through life playing daily make believe.

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it's honestly baffling that we even have a handful of islamic apologists on here. wake tf up.you gonna wait until you're personally connected to it before you realize that it's the actual opposite of religion of peace? Amazing how many people float through life playing daily make believe.

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The Left will perform amazing acts of mental gymnastics to defend the worst people if they think it will help them politically. They will look the other way at all manner of injustice and illegality if it means they can gain political advantage.

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Refreshing to see at least one Aussie gets it.

This is what a real leader looks like pic.twitter.com/7BBLzmmsNZ

— Rita Panahi (@RitaPanahi) December 15, 2025

Rita is a great follow, fwiw.

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I agree that Rita Panahi is a good follow.

I had to look up where Canning is. Looks like that fellow is from Perth, Western Australia.

He says that the father shooter was in the country on a visa and was not a Citizen.

I'm still waiting to hear more details but after he got his "Partner Visa" in 2001, I assume that he would have had to renew that Visa every 5 years. I'm not sure what the Partner Visa rules are so I'll have to look into that.

In my case as an Australian Permanent Resident, I never had to do anything as long as I never left Australia. But if I wanted to leave and return, I needed to get a "Right to Return" Visa renewed every 5 years.

So, I'd be interested to know if this Pakistani guy had left Australia after 2001. More pieces of the puzzle.

EDIT: Forgot to add that in Australia, the conservative party is "Liberal" and the lefty party is "Labor".

"The Coalition" is a combination of "Liberal" and "The Nationals". The Nationals are more prevalent in rural Australia.

The other party that usually aligns with Labor is "The Greens". They're complete wack jobs.

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YouBet said:

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BlackGold said:

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Where am I justifying any murder? Don't be obtuse. Murdering someone for their beliefs is clearly not ok. I'm clearly speaking in a historical context. If you think I'm lying or making stuff up, read a book and take a history class.

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That's the key fact we should acknowledge here though. Christians and Jews participating in these kinds of acts are not normal and common and are part of ancient history.

Meanwhile, the Muslims continue their Jihad against the rest of us here in 2025 and will continue to do so until humanity is extinct.

So there just isn't an equitable viewpoint here. The reality is that this type of violence is propagated by Muslims 99 times out of 100 in modern times.

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You can't look at everything from a short term perspective though, especially not religious zealotry, since it has been happening forever and will continue to happen long after we're all dead and gone. If you do, you'll get the current group-think that seems to be propagating throughout these forums - get rid of the other side. Those same provocative thoughts were probably the same ones that kicked off wars and murder in the first place.

I don't have an answer on how to fix what is currently going on, no one does, it's been happening for thousands of years and we still can't figure out a solution, but killing the other side will certainly not help, and only exacerbate the problem(s).

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While I'll agree killings from religious strife will definitely go on in perpetuity, I definitely disagree that it cant be dealt with and stopped on Australia, the US, Europe.

It can definitely be contained to the regions where it originates from to such a degree where's its an afterthought to us.

maverick2076 said:

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Seen pics posted of two of the cops standing in the open with their hands above their heads, and a third hiding behind a car with their weapon still holstered.

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This reminds me...

In New South Wales, there is only one portion of the police force who is authorized to crack heads wherever and whenever needed. That is the "Riot Squad".

The NSW Riot Squad dress in dark para-military uniforms and ride around on hardened vehicles, displaying force at events where large crowds are gathered.

It is very possible that these NSW Police on scene in Bondi were afraid that they'd get in trouble for engaging an active shooter.

Riot Squad does get in trouble a lot for going overboard on beating people up. Which I'm OK with for the most part considering that the places they go are the ones where stuff is going to happen.

Here's a recent story from 7 News on the Riot Squad