Mass terror attack in Australian beach...

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laavispa
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Not the same as the Aussies that went up the Kokoda Track in WWII. Giving up liberty for security always works-right.
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laavispa said:

Not the same as the Aussies that went up the Kokoda Track in WWII. Giving up liberty for security always works-right.


Certainly not. When you scare the **** out of the indoctrinated, no fear Imperial Japanese back then, then you are a badass.
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THAT.

On a more general question, what is the real purpose of this kind of terrorism? What happens if a nation were to react sensibly to it, like any pre-1940's would, or the Middle Ages? Namely, destroy most known members of such a group, and kick out the rest. What is it really trying to achieve --- would it work in Xi's China? Why is this such a go to when all you need is to not react like the MSM-Progressive "global commentariat" (Australia's govt a perfect example and so is UK's) insists on -- but instead discarded any restraint.
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It might be useful to distinguish between two main types of terrorism of this kind as far as the `catalyst' is.

The methods can be identical, a beach shot up in either case.

A) There is terrorism against occupiers, or an order that insists on ruling your land.

B) There is terrorism by importees or immigrants within a host country they are now in. That is what is happening in UK and Australia, and whenever it occurs here.

Type (A) is tricky, because part of the onus is on the recent occupier and the violence is to spur them to do so. They can always leave. (That's us in Iraq, Russia in Afghanistan)

Type (B) should be simpler. Importees, refugess, recent immigrants -- are all at the theoretical behest of the host. Misconduct by them should not be tolerated, and en-mass expulsion should always remain a card on the table. So the question is what is the purpose of the (B) type of terrorism like killing the National Guardswoman in D.C? YouBet brought up Imperial Japan. Imagine if it got the response they would have given. Why are such acts done -- does it entirely count on a Pritzker kind of enabling rather than a rational disposing of the culprits?
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Teddy KGB said:


Thank You for sharing that.

The concept of trying to use a cop's gun to defend against an armed attacker is something that most Australians will not understand.
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Who?mikejones! said:



Appears that Australia has chosen the totalitarian theocracy with leftism standing in for the religion
Subtle observation, during the explanation, he said "14 days" instead of "Fortnight".

I wonder why he didn't use traditional Australian language.

Nevermind the ruling. Note that it only comes into play after the NSW Police have declared a terrorist event. Interesting.

If it was me, I would have let people gather but require armed security / police presence.
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HollywoodBQ said:

Who?mikejones! said:



Appears that Australia has chosen the totalitarian theocracy with leftism standing in for the religion

Subtle observation, during the explanation, he said "14 days" instead of "Fortnight".

I wonder why he didn't use traditional Australian language.

Nevermind the ruling. Note that it only comes into play after the NSW Police have declared a terrorist event. Interesting.

If it was me, I would have let people gather but require armed security / police presence.

Good catch. It means not only is he a globalist, but probably a fake Aussie in background. Certainly has mindset unworthy of Down Under. At least the mid-20th C version had become familiar with in contacts.

Remember the scene in Braveheart with Longshanks --- so many of the EU leaders and politicians like this need to be cast out and down.
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Leftist authoritarians. They and the third world migrants will be the end of Australia. Us too, but Australia first.

Add Australia as another country I'll never visit.
one safe place
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Australia's problem isn't guns (well the lack of gun ownership is a problem) nor is it public assembly. Their problem, and that of parts of Europe, and in the United States is allowing people from certain parts of the world come into their county. So much trash has come in, including muslims, but others as well. Diversity is a huge weakness and will ruin any organization or area that promotes it or allows it.
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There are a couple of news stories coming out now about the actions of the surf lifesavers who were on the beach at the time of the attack.

There were some of the professional lifeguards who are profiled in a show called "Bondi Rescue" who were on scene and there were also some of the local surf lifesaving clubs who responded.

I saw some pictures of a bunch of rescue boards - like 12-15 boards, being used as stretchers to carry people off the beach.

There is also some video of one of the professional surf lifesavers who helped hide a big group behind one of their ATVs while the shooting was in progress. And one of the surf lifesavers even swam out to make a rescue while shots were being fired.

Here's a memorial they did across Australia.

Note - the professional Bondi Rescue Lifesavers wear a light blue uniform while the volunteer surf lifesaving club members (SLSC) wear the yellow and red swimming costumes (cozzies in Strine).

HollywoodBQ
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The volume of CCTV footage is interesting.

Showing the perps rehearsing 2 days prior to the attack.

And this reporter over uses "allegedly".

titan
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"allegedly" like "suspect" is extremely annoying when one is talking about an unquestioned culprit, or perpetrator and that word is more apt.
 
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