Are you forgetting that Trump literally left office after what you called an "insurrection" in which people died and he STILL got elected a few years later?

NOTHING sticks to him. When will you learn?

Say all you want about Trump, but at least he doesn't have a crack head son who murdered him and his wife.

Im not part of trumps base, and I dont particularly care for the man.

But...........

Nothing he does or doesnt do will ever lead to a democrat vote from me.

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Over a tweet. Yeah….ok.

These people had no idea about Trump's tweeting tendencies before today, right?

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Not just over a tweet. Trump's approval rating has already fallen through the floor with most folks outside his base. If he has any hope that his unique political platform doesn't die along with him, he should be focused on the stuff that works (border security, crime, etc.) and stop own goaling himself and offending the average voter who is not full blown MAGA.

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Are the border gates opened any time he tweets? Do police stand down when he tweets?

You comment acts as though he just tweets and does not work.

Let me reveal a secret... he is able to do both.

And no one is offended by his comments who was not already offended by his respiratory status.

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Say all you want about Trump, but at least he does have a crack head son who murdered him and his wife.

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Fair point. Joe and Dr. Jill had better hope Hunter received better crackhead counseling than Reiner's son.

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Well, no one really thinks that Trump is a good human being. Politics aside, Clinton, Bush Jr and Obama are probably better people to hang with and have a beer. Even Biden or Carter.

However, it is a choice we are forced to make from the policy perspective. We cannot allow the country to be sold to foreigners and Trump is the best (only) choice. The other option was Kamala.

Sad but until an alternative emerges, it is Trump, however classless or racist he is or may silently be.

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What has Trump ever done that makes you think he is a racist?

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Please read the 4 words in bold above.

and he speaks for many of us. Trump is a narcissistic jerk in many ways. But he is LIGHT YEARS ahead of any scum bag the democrats have put forth. And his policies are American centric. That's refreshing.

Weird

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Well, no one really thinks that Trump is a good human being. Politics aside, Clinton, Bush Jr and Obama are probably better people to hang with and have a beer. Even Biden or Carter.

However, it is a choice we are forced to make from the policy perspective. We cannot allow the country to be sold to foreigners and Trump is the best (only) choice. The other option was Kamala.

Sad but until an alternative emerges, it is Trump, however classless or racist he is or may silently be.

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What has Trump ever done that makes you think he is a racist?

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Please read the 4 words in bold above.

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Trump has learned to mime his racism. 4D chess and such.

Get real. There is not a single example of Trump being racist in his 80 years on Earth.

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I dont care what trump says or does. He wins some, he loses some. He's a very pretty person.

But nothing he does or doesnt do will ever lead me to vote for a democrat. Ever.

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and he speaks for many of us. Trump is a narcissistic jerk in many ways. But he is LIGHT YEARS ahead of any scum bag the democrats have put forth. And his policies are American centric. That's refreshing.

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Dems will sell out the country and bring in 100000000000000000 trashy people from sheethole countries.

NO.

I'd rather have a classless President who mostly does what needs to be done.

Besides, it is fun to read the squealing from other countries when he squeezes their balls on tariffs, visas etc!

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I dont know what it is going to take for people to wake up about the demons of drugs and how they take hold of the mind and body. I mean, we can know intellectually, but at some point you have to trust you raised your children right and they are not led astray by friends, mental issues, or chronic pain.

I am so sorry for their family. It sounds like they did everything they could to save him.

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Sadly I attended the memorial service of a longtime friend and neighbor, the mother of 3 now adult kids who grew up playing with our kids. Her battle with anxiety and depression led to heavy alcoholism and - along with prescription meds - she spent these last 3-4 years unwilling to ask for help, and when confronted by her family turned towards anger, blame, and ultimately being cut off from her 2 daughters, her husband had to separate and move out, and just days after finalizing their divorce 2 weeks ago was found by her last remaining friend in her apartment.

It's so tragically sad and all she had to do was ask for help and people would have moved mountains for her.

This isn't someone who grew up in an abusive home with bad parents (or 1 parent) who didn't love her. This story is more prevalent than most people realize, although more people in her situation and nice neighborhoods do choose to get help before it's too late.

Lot of stuff can be true at once:

• Rob Reiner and his wife died horrifically at the hands of their own son. That's a terrible tragedy for all involved, his family and friends. RIP.
• Trump's tweet was dumb as ****, insensitive, and an own goal. Repubs had a high ground of sorts after the reaction to Charlie Kirk's death. Trump gave a bit of it back here, and even though his tweet wasn't celebratory, it was just dumb and made it all about him. Now every R Congressman, Leavitt, etc will have to explain and answer for it. Stupid, childish, and in many ways on brand for Trump.
• Reiner was riddled with TDS and said some terrible things about Trump and other Republicans over the years. His death had nothing to do with that but he put himself squarely in the political arena with his outspoken toxic leftism.
• I and many others vote for policy over persona. And Trump was the clear choice after the primary. Doesn't mean we condone every thing the man does.
• Personally, I'm tired of the vitriol in politics but it appears here to stay. And while leftists think Trump is the cause of it, there are far far more on the left sowing hatred and division.

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Well, no one really thinks that Trump is a good human being. Politics aside, Clinton, Bush Jr and Obama are probably better people to hang with and have a beer. Even Biden or Carter.

However, it is a choice we are forced to make from the policy perspective. We cannot allow the country to be sold to foreigners and Trump is the best (only) choice. The other option was Kamala.

Sad but until an alternative emerges, it is Trump, however classless or racist he is or may silently be.

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What has Trump ever done that makes you think he is a racist?

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Please read the 4 words in bold above.

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Trump has learned to mime his racism. 4D chess and such.

Get real. There is not a single example of Trump being racist in his 80 years on Earth.

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Well we can all have our opinions based on what we see/hear.

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Well, no one really thinks that Trump is a good human being. Politics aside, Clinton, Bush Jr and Obama are probably better people to hang with and have a beer. Even Biden or Carter.

However, it is a choice we are forced to make from the policy perspective. We cannot allow the country to be sold to foreigners and Trump is the best (only) choice. The other option was Kamala.

Sad but until an alternative emerges, it is Trump, however classless or racist he is or may silently be.

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What has Trump ever done that makes you think he is a racist?

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Please read the 4 words in bold above.

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Trump has learned to mime his racism. 4D chess and such.

Get real. There is not a single example of Trump being racist in his 80 years on Earth.

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Well we can all have our opinions based on what we see/hear.

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Site examples of racism.

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Well, no one really thinks that Trump is a good human being. Politics aside, Clinton, Bush Jr and Obama are probably better people to hang with and have a beer. Even Biden or Carter.

However, it is a choice we are forced to make from the policy perspective. We cannot allow the country to be sold to foreigners and Trump is the best (only) choice. The other option was Kamala.

Sad but until an alternative emerges, it is Trump, however classless or racist he is or may silently be.

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What has Trump ever done that makes you think he is a racist?

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Please read the 4 words in bold above.

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Trump has learned to mime his racism. 4D chess and such.

Get real. There is not a single example of Trump being racist in his 80 years on Earth.

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Well we can all have our opinions based on what we see/hear.

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Well you said he was silent in his racism, so you cannot form that opinion by what you hear.

What have you read or seen to show this racism? Why not back it up?

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This country is in serious need of a divorce…there simply is no other cure…

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Well, no one really thinks that Trump is a good human being. Politics aside, Clinton, Bush Jr and Obama are probably better people to hang with and have a beer. Even Biden or Carter.

However, it is a choice we are forced to make from the policy perspective. We cannot allow the country to be sold to foreigners and Trump is the best (only) choice. The other option was Kamala.

Sad but until an alternative emerges, it is Trump, however classless or racist he is or may silently be.

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What has Trump ever done that makes you think he is a racist?

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Please read the 4 words in bold above.

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Trump has learned to mime his racism. 4D chess and such.

Get real. There is not a single example of Trump being racist in his 80 years on Earth.

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Well we can all have our opinions based on what we see/hear.

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Well you said he was silent in his racism, so you cannot form that opinion by what you hear.

What have you read or seen to show this racism? Why not back it up?

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Because they don't have anything, they just like to throw this out there because it makes them feel better. They think it will score them political points. No one gives a **** about this crap anymore being called a racist.
is not as damaging as it once was.

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I remember this from his former casino manager. Who knows if true but if so . . . .



https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/11/07/donald-trump-says-hes-never-used-a-racist-remark-i-know-different-222314/

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"Yeah, I never liked the guy," he said. "And isn't it funny, I've got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day."

I was mortified. We were in a restaurant in Trump Tower. I worried he'd be overheard. But he went on, "Besides that, I've got to tell you something else: I think the guy is lazy, and it's probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is. I believe that. It's not anything they can control."
Then, eyeing me closely, he said, "Don't you agree?"

When I told him in no uncertain terms that I did not, he swiped aside my objections with a chop of his hand. "Ah, it's a trait," he said.

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Well you said he was silent in his racism, so you cannot form that opinion by what you hear.

What have you read or seen to show this racism? Why not back it up?

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He rode that escalator down, in Trump Tower, in June of 2015, changing from (D) to (R) behind his name.


;-)

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The epitome of spreading rumor, unconfirmed, false information.

Too funny.

But can you cite verified examples? If he has been a racist for decades, surely you have more than random quotes included in a book regarding a conversation about Jews counting money and blacks being lazy.

Tell us the man's conviction of racism relies on more than just that...

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Well you said he was silent in his racism, so you cannot form that opinion by what you hear.

What have you read or seen to show this racism? Why not back it up?

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He rode that escalator down, in Trump Tower, in June of 2015, changing from (D) to (R) behind his name.


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He probably also didn't give any of the Black Marine One pilots a birthday gift either. Definite KKK grand dragon behavior.

LOL, no idea if it's true, but look at this racism!

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I remember this from his former casino manager. Who knows if true but if so . . . .



https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/11/07/donald-trump-says-hes-never-used-a-racist-remark-i-know-different-222314/

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"Yeah, I never liked the guy," he said. "And isn't it funny, I've got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day."

I was mortified. We were in a restaurant in Trump Tower. I worried he'd be overheard. But he went on, "Besides that, I've got to tell you something else: I think the guy is lazy, and it's probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is. I believe that. It's not anything they can control."
Then, eyeing me closely, he said, "Don't you agree?"

When I told him in no uncertain terms that I did not, he swiped aside my objections with a chop of his hand. "Ah, it's a trait," he said.

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Well you said he was silent in his racism, so you cannot form that opinion by what you hear.

What have you read or seen to show this racism? Why not back it up?

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He rode that escalator down, in Trump Tower, in June of 2015, changing from (D) to (R) behind his name.


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He probably also didn't give any of the Black Marine One pilots a birthday gift either. Definite KKK grand dragon behavior.

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If Trump were in the KKK, he's be GrandEST Dragon, not just a Grand one.

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Well you said he was silent in his racism, so you cannot form that opinion by what you hear.

What have you read or seen to show this racism? Why not back it up?

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He rode that escalator down, in Trump Tower, in June of 2015, changing from (D) to (R) behind his name.


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He probably also didn't give any of the Black Marine One pilots a birthday gift either. Definite KKK grand dragon behavior.

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If Trump were in the KKK, he's be GrandEST Dragon, not just a Grand one.

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Yuuge dragon., Bit beautiful fire breathing dragon.

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Well you said he was silent in his racism, so you cannot form that opinion by what you hear.

What have you read or seen to show this racism? Why not back it up?

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He rode that escalator down, in Trump Tower, in June of 2015, changing from (D) to (R) behind his name.


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He probably also didn't give any of the Black Marine One pilots a birthday gift either. Definite KKK grand dragon behavior.

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If Trump were in the KKK, he's be GrandEST Dragon, not just a Grand one.

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A red dragon.

Reddish-orange?

Although, the point on his hat would have to kind of comb over itself. You know....because....reasons.

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If you don't know if it's true why are you using it as an example?

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I mean it is in a published book by a guy who worked for him so I assume it is true.

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Why does being a former employee make him credible? Why is he incapable of bias or malice to a former employer?

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Why does being a former employee make him credible? Why is he incapable of bias or malice to a former employer?

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Maybe, just maybe....he's the first gruntled ex-employee who wanted to write a book.

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LOL

I have a new book, from OJ, for your reading pleasure.....

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Lot of stuff can be true at once:

• Rob Reiner and his wife died horrifically at the hands of their own son. That's a terrible tragedy for all involved, his family and friends. RIP.
• Trump's tweet was dumb as ****, insensitive, and an own goal. Repubs had a high ground of sorts after the reaction to Charlie Kirk's death. Trump gave a bit of it back here, and even though his tweet wasn't celebratory, it was just dumb and made it all about him. Now every R Congressman, Leavitt, etc will have to explain and answer for it. Stupid, childish, and in many ways on brand for Trump.
• Reiner was riddled with TDS and said some terrible things about Trump and other Republicans over the years. His death had nothing to do with that but he put himself squarely in the political arena with his outspoken toxic leftism.
• I and many others vote for policy over persona. And Trump was the clear choice after the primary. Doesn't mean we condone every thing the man does.
• Personally, I'm tired of the vitriol in politics but it appears here to stay. And while leftists think Trump is the cause of it, there are far far more on the left sowing hatred and division.

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American as apple pie...you should have seen what John Adams and Thomas Jefferson were saying about each other during their campaigns.

Adams camp called TJ "a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father".

TJ's camp alleged that Adams was a "hideous hermaphroditical character which has neither the force and firmness of a man nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman".

They also used to have duels and shoot each other to settle disagreements back then. That being said, we are far more divided today than EVER, culturally, politically, ideologically and theologically. If things weren't so abundant and comfortable any easy, things would have gotten extremely brutal and violent by now. I have far less in common with the average leftist than avg northern and southern soldiers had with eachother...and they were butchering one another.