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Can someone explain to me why it wouldn't be sufficient to register to vote with one's social security number and then show any state ID when voting to confirm that you are in fact the person whose social security number was used to register?

I know social security number fraud certainly exists, but I'm not aware that there are a lot of foreigners with state driver's licenses who say that they are Jim from Sheboygan.

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A Social Security Number/Card does not prove citizenship. As long as you have legal residency status you can and probably do have a social security card. Same thing with a driver's license.

So that includes

Green card holders
People who have been granted asylum
refugees with legal status

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They scan your ID when you go to vote (at least in Texas).

Why can't we have our ID be tied to your voter registration, and prove your citizenship? They scan it, it verifies I've registered, and am a citizen and I take my voting slip.

If you're here on a visa, or illegal, etc...their ID is scanned, it shows they're not a citizen, they dont get to vote.

Seems pretty dang easy.

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They scan your ID when you go to vote (at least in Texas).

Why can't we have our ID be tied to your voter registration, and prove your citizenship? They scan it, it verifies I've registered, and am a citizen and I take my voting slip.

If you're here on a visa, or illegal, etc...their ID is scanned, it shows they're not a citizen, they dont get to vote.

Seems pretty dang easy.

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I think we all know the voting systems are unnecessarily insecure and error-prone by design, and not because of "states rights".

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solishu said:

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Can someone explain to me why it wouldn't be sufficient to register to vote with one's social security number and then show any state ID when voting to confirm that you are in fact the person whose social security number was used to register?

I know social security number fraud certainly exists, but I'm not aware that there are a lot of foreigners with state driver's licenses who say that they are Jim from Sheboygan.

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A Social Security Number/Card does not prove citizenship. As long as you have legal residency status you can and probably do have a social security card. Same thing with a driver's license.

So that includes

Green card holders
People who have been granted asylum
refugees with legal status

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They scan your ID when you go to vote (at least in Texas).

Why can't we have our ID be tied to your voter registration, and prove your citizenship? They scan it, it verifies I've registered, and am a citizen and I take my voting slip.

If you're here on a visa, or illegal, etc...their ID is scanned, it shows they're not a citizen, they dont get to vote.

Seems pretty dang easy.

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My only guess is that's easier said than done. Every state handles ID's differently and tying citizenship to a DL would mean changing who and how the ID is issued and verified.

That's the main problem: various government entities issue birth certificates, SSNs, name changes, marriage certificates, voter registration, driver's license, picture ID, passport, death certificate and none of them share info with each other.

If they really wanted voter ID to be easy, cheap, and secure this act would provide funding and direction for all those entities to talk to each other and provide real ID security.

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Passports required to vote or GTFO

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Wait, they are requiring Passport or birth certificate to vote!?! You can't be serious. Valid State ID is all you should need. If you require more, then you are absolutely tampering with voter rights.

except for all the states that gave state id to illegal aliens

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Ambres said:

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Passports required to vote or GTFO

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Wait, they are requiring Passport or birth certificate to vote!?! You can't be serious. Valid State ID is all you should need. If you require more, then you are absolutely tampering with voter rights.

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You should have to prove your eligibility to vote in order to vote. Since being a citizen is one of the eligibility requirements, you should have to prove you are a citizen to register to vote. Since a bunch of states (deliberately) decided to give drivers licenses to illegals (and with motor voter the ability to register to vote) state IDs are not proof of citizenship. Therefore, you should have to show something more to prove you are eligible.

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All you need is the Real ID Star on your state issued driver's license. This isn't that hard. I don't understand the uproar.

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Passports required to vote or GTFO

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Wait, they are requiring Passport or birth certificate to vote!?! You can't be serious. Valid State ID is all you should need. If you require more, then you are absolutely tampering with voter rights.

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You should have to prove your eligibility to vote in order to vote. Since being a citizen is one of the eligibility requirements, you should have to prove you are a citizen to register to vote. Since a bunch of states (deliberately) decided to give drivers licenses to illegals (and with motor voter the ability to register to vote) state IDs are not proof of citizenship. Therefore, you should have to show something more to prove you are eligible.

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All you need is the Real ID Star on your state issued driver's license. This isn't that hard. I don't understand the uproar.

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A non-citizen can get a Real ID state driver's license....

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Passports required to vote or GTFO

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Wait, they are requiring Passport or birth certificate to vote!?! You can't be serious. Valid State ID is all you should need. If you require more, then you are absolutely tampering with voter rights.

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You should have to prove your eligibility to vote in order to vote. Since being a citizen is one of the eligibility requirements, you should have to prove you are a citizen to register to vote. Since a bunch of states (deliberately) decided to give drivers licenses to illegals (and with motor voter the ability to register to vote) state IDs are not proof of citizenship. Therefore, you should have to show something more to prove you are eligible.

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All you need is the Real ID Star on your state issued driver's license. This isn't that hard. I don't understand the uproar.

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Real id star does not prove citizenship.

Bull*****

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Right, but the Federal database of social security numbers surely is cross-linked with citizenship status?

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Why would that be the case? The government is terrible at pretty much everything. They can't even verify that daycares exist before giving them billions of dollars.

It is by design. Just like not verifying citizenship before allowing someone to vote is creating a loophole to be exploited. By design.

But you know this.

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I had to send in copies of my kid's birth certificates to apply for my social security number. I would be shocked if the registry where that's recorded doesn't have record that my children are citizens.

So human A has SS number 93-032-9320.

He registers for his voting card with his name and that number.

The state asks the SSA, "Hey, is this guy a citizen?" SSA confirms that he is. The state sends him a voter registration card with his name on it.

When he votes he shows his voter registration card and his state ID to prove that he is actually the person who registered to vote.

The government does not share information well. By design.

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Ambres said:

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Passports required to vote or GTFO

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Wait, they are requiring Passport or birth certificate to vote!?! You can't be serious. Valid State ID is all you should need. If you require more, then you are absolutely tampering with voter rights.

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You should have to prove your eligibility to vote in order to vote. Since being a citizen is one of the eligibility requirements, you should have to prove you are a citizen to register to vote. Since a bunch of states (deliberately) decided to give drivers licenses to illegals (and with motor voter the ability to register to vote) state IDs are not proof of citizenship. Therefore, you should have to show something more to prove you are eligible.

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Really, that is bs. You have to prove citizenship to get a license in Texas. If they want to make a law that requires that for every state.. i am all onboard. I just got my son license this month and the number of documents we needed was insane. So don't give an answer that is purely to elliminate voters who can't afford to get passport. Which we all know which citizens don't get passport so let's be honest.. this is to eliminate democrat/poor voters. By the way, this is the same as requiring land ownership.. maybe we should go back to that requirement too.

https://www.idrivesafely.com/defensive-driving/trending/documents-you-need-get-your-texas-drivers-license/

Before heading in to get your license, all applicants will need the following documents:

• A completed applicationFormDetail.aspx?Id=263&FormNumber=DL 14A.pdf Internetforms for an Original Texas Driver License or Identification Card.
• Proof of your Social Security number (Social Security card, SSA-1099 form, paystub, W-2, etc.).
• Proof of your identity (Texas driver's license or ID within two years of expiration, U.S. citizenship certificate, foreign passport, unexpired passport, unexpired military photo ID card, etc.).
• Proof of U.S. citizenship or lawful presence in the country (birth certificate or birth record, U.S. passport, permanent resident card, Employment Authorization Card, I-94, US Travel Document, etc.).
• Proof of residency (mortgage, current deed, monthly mortgage statement, utility bill within 90 days, homeowners or renters insurance policy or statement, medical or health card, concealed handgun license, current year W-2 or 1099 form, etc.).
• New residents: Proof of insurance and ownership for any vehicle you own (evidence of financial responsibility and Texas vehicle registration.

Ok but that's just it. You don't have to be a citizen to be able to get a license, just have legal residency status.


The Real ID just verifies your identity because it's available to non citizens too.

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txags92 said:

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Ambres said:

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Passports required to vote or GTFO

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Wait, they are requiring Passport or birth certificate to vote!?! You can't be serious. Valid State ID is all you should need. If you require more, then you are absolutely tampering with voter rights.

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You should have to prove your eligibility to vote in order to vote. Since being a citizen is one of the eligibility requirements, you should have to prove you are a citizen to register to vote. Since a bunch of states (deliberately) decided to give drivers licenses to illegals (and with motor voter the ability to register to vote) state IDs are not proof of citizenship. Therefore, you should have to show something more to prove you are eligible.

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Really, that is bs. You have to prove citizenship to get a license in Texas. If they want to make a law that requires that for every state.. i am all onboard. I just got my son license this month and the number of documents we needed was insane. So don't give an answer that is purely to elliminate voters who can't afford to get passport. Which we all know which citizens don't get passport so let's be honest.. this is to eliminate democrat/poor voters. By the way, this is the same as requiring land ownership.. maybe we should go back to that requirement too.

https://www.idrivesafely.com/defensive-driving/trending/documents-you-need-get-your-texas-drivers-license/

Before heading in to get your license, all applicants will need the following documents:

• A completed applicationFormDetail.aspx?Id=263&FormNumber=DL 14A.pdf Internetforms for an Original Texas Driver License or Identification Card.
• Proof of your Social Security number (Social Security card, SSA-1099 form, paystub, W-2, etc.).
• Proof of your identity (Texas driver's license or ID within two years of expiration, U.S. citizenship certificate, foreign passport, unexpired passport, unexpired military photo ID card, etc.).
• Proof of U.S. citizenship or lawful presence in the country (birth certificate or birth record, U.S. passport, permanent resident card, Employment Authorization Card, I-94, US Travel Document, etc.).
• Proof of residency (mortgage, current deed, monthly mortgage statement, utility bill within 90 days, homeowners or renters insurance policy or statement, medical or health card, concealed handgun license, current year W-2 or 1099 form, etc.).
• New residents: Proof of insurance and ownership for any vehicle you own (evidence of financial responsibility and Texas vehicle registration.

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So Democrat voters are predominantly lolpoor AND incapable of lawfully registering to vote and then bringing an ID with them. Next thing you will be saying it's targeted at people of color. Absolutely no R voters would be impacted because they rich and have IDs due to their (white) privilege.

txags92 said:

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Ambres said:

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Passports required to vote or GTFO

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Wait, they are requiring Passport or birth certificate to vote!?! You can't be serious. Valid State ID is all you should need. If you require more, then you are absolutely tampering with voter rights.

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You should have to prove your eligibility to vote in order to vote. Since being a citizen is one of the eligibility requirements, you should have to prove you are a citizen to register to vote. Since a bunch of states (deliberately) decided to give drivers licenses to illegals (and with motor voter the ability to register to vote) state IDs are not proof of citizenship. Therefore, you should have to show something more to prove you are eligible.

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Agree and that should be your state id.. not a passport or bringing your paper birth certificate. I feel like people on here are purposely trying to deflect the fact that getting a passport should not be require for you to vote.

ID - yes (make a standard for all state id and make that into a law.. so that people don't have to carry extra documents)

Passport/birth certificate = no

This isn't hard.. The only reason to add passport is to create a challenge to those who can't afford it. It is a BS requirement.

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Ambres said:

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txags92 said:

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Ambres said:

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Passports required to vote or GTFO

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Wait, they are requiring Passport or birth certificate to vote!?! You can't be serious. Valid State ID is all you should need. If you require more, then you are absolutely tampering with voter rights.

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You should have to prove your eligibility to vote in order to vote. Since being a citizen is one of the eligibility requirements, you should have to prove you are a citizen to register to vote. Since a bunch of states (deliberately) decided to give drivers licenses to illegals (and with motor voter the ability to register to vote) state IDs are not proof of citizenship. Therefore, you should have to show something more to prove you are eligible.

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Really, that is bs. You have to prove citizenship to get a license in Texas. If they want to make a law that requires that for every state.. i am all onboard. I just got my son license this month and the number of documents we needed was insane. So don't give an answer that is purely to elliminate voters who can't afford to get passport. Which we all know which citizens don't get passport so let's be honest.. this is to eliminate democrat/poor voters. By the way, this is the same as requiring land ownership.. maybe we should go back to that requirement too.

https://www.idrivesafely.com/defensive-driving/trending/documents-you-need-get-your-texas-drivers-license/

Before heading in to get your license, all applicants will need the following documents:

• A completed applicationFormDetail.aspx?Id=263&FormNumber=DL 14A.pdf Internetforms for an Original Texas Driver License or Identification Card.
• Proof of your Social Security number (Social Security card, SSA-1099 form, paystub, W-2, etc.).
• Proof of your identity (Texas driver's license or ID within two years of expiration, U.S. citizenship certificate, foreign passport, unexpired passport, unexpired military photo ID card, etc.).
• Proof of U.S. citizenship or lawful presence in the country (birth certificate or birth record, U.S. passport, permanent resident card, Employment Authorization Card, I-94, US Travel Document, etc.).
• Proof of residency (mortgage, current deed, monthly mortgage statement, utility bill within 90 days, homeowners or renters insurance policy or statement, medical or health card, concealed handgun license, current year W-2 or 1099 form, etc.).
• New residents: Proof of insurance and ownership for any vehicle you own (evidence of financial responsibility and Texas vehicle registration.

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So Democrat voters are predominantly lolpoor AND incapable of lawfully registering to vote and then bringing an ID with them. Next thing you will be saying it's targeted at people of color. Absolutely no R voters would be impacted because they rich and have IDs due to their (white) privilege.

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Umm those number according to Gallop and you know that to be true so why pretend you don't

https://news.gallup.com/poll/151310/u.s.-republican-not-conservative.aspx

Ambres said:

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txags92 said:

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Ambres said:

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Passports required to vote or GTFO

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Wait, they are requiring Passport or birth certificate to vote!?! You can't be serious. Valid State ID is all you should need. If you require more, then you are absolutely tampering with voter rights.

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You should have to prove your eligibility to vote in order to vote. Since being a citizen is one of the eligibility requirements, you should have to prove you are a citizen to register to vote. Since a bunch of states (deliberately) decided to give drivers licenses to illegals (and with motor voter the ability to register to vote) state IDs are not proof of citizenship. Therefore, you should have to show something more to prove you are eligible.

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Agree and that should be your state id.. not a passport or bringing your paper birth certificate. I feel like people on here are purposely trying to deflect the fact that getting a passport should not be require for you to vote.

ID - yes (make a standard for all state id and make that into a law.. so that people don't have to carry extra documents)

Passport/birth certificate = no

This isn't hard.. The only reason to add passport is to create a challenge to those who can't afford it. It is a BS requirement.

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Should be, but it isnt. Wish they would setup something connected to your DL or voter registration where once you proved you are a citizen it attaches a tag they can see by scanning your DL. The problem is that places like Texas will do that, but California and NY will just find a way to add that tag to the IDs of illegals

txags92 said:

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Ambres said:

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txags92 said:

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Ambres said:

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Passports required to vote or GTFO

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Wait, they are requiring Passport or birth certificate to vote!?! You can't be serious. Valid State ID is all you should need. If you require more, then you are absolutely tampering with voter rights.

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You should have to prove your eligibility to vote in order to vote. Since being a citizen is one of the eligibility requirements, you should have to prove you are a citizen to register to vote. Since a bunch of states (deliberately) decided to give drivers licenses to illegals (and with motor voter the ability to register to vote) state IDs are not proof of citizenship. Therefore, you should have to show something more to prove you are eligible.

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Agree and that should be your state id.. not a passport or bringing your paper birth certificate. I feel like people on here are purposely trying to deflect the fact that getting a passport should not be require for you to vote.

ID - yes (make a standard for all state id and make that into a law.. so that people don't have to carry extra documents)

Passport/birth certificate = no

This isn't hard.. The only reason to add passport is to create a challenge to those who can't afford it. It is a BS requirement.

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Should be, but it isnt. Wish they would setup something connected to your DL or voter registration where once you proved you are a citizen it attaches a tag they can see by scanning your DL. The problem is that places like Texas will do that, but California and NY will just find a way to add that tag to the IDs of illegals

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That why it should be a federal law.. if they amend SAFE act to that end, I would be 100% onboard. Make a link to your ID. 31 states require prof of residency already for an ID or DL card. Make it law so that the other 19 states get in line.

Getting a passport is not a requirement to vote. That's a bald-faced lie.

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Ok but that's just it. You don't have to be a citizen to be able to get a license, just have legal residency status.


The Real ID just verifies your identity because it's available to non citizens too.

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So why can't they make it so that ID show residency.. you already bringing in the paperwork..

Or provide residency requirements in registration? This is something you have all year to accomplish, then you legal state ID validate you are the voter (Who prove citizenship in registration and obtaining ID).

Both these mechanism accomplish the same thing, without requiring obtaining a new form of ID in a passport which most American don't have or can afford the $130 fee and 4-8 week wait.

Finally, what to stop the federal government to delay passports to regions that vote against their interest. Especially since the SAFE act will probably be implemented this mid term in Nov.. and catch a lot of ignorant people by surprise when they show up to vote and don'[t have a passport or ID. (Yes I am calling a lot of Americans ignorant because they don't follow current events)

Because leftist states refuse to make this a simple process. They want cheating in elections.

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Because leftist states refuse to make this a simple process. They want cheating in elections.

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Federal law make leftist states do the simple process. Which is what they are attempting to do already in the SAVE Act by requiring passport and/or birth certificate as form of ID only. (State ID not valid) .. my issue is not ID .. is the application of Passport as the ID. The federal government already makes laws on State ID requirement.. that is how the Real ID came to be.. so this is not new ground.

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flown-the-coop said:

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Ambres said:

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txags92 said:

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Ambres said:

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Passports required to vote or GTFO

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Wait, they are requiring Passport or birth certificate to vote!?! You can't be serious. Valid State ID is all you should need. If you require more, then you are absolutely tampering with voter rights.

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You should have to prove your eligibility to vote in order to vote. Since being a citizen is one of the eligibility requirements, you should have to prove you are a citizen to register to vote. Since a bunch of states (deliberately) decided to give drivers licenses to illegals (and with motor voter the ability to register to vote) state IDs are not proof of citizenship. Therefore, you should have to show something more to prove you are eligible.

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Really, that is bs. You have to prove citizenship to get a license in Texas. If they want to make a law that requires that for every state.. i am all onboard. I just got my son license this month and the number of documents we needed was insane. So don't give an answer that is purely to elliminate voters who can't afford to get passport. Which we all know which citizens don't get passport so let's be honest.. this is to eliminate democrat/poor voters. By the way, this is the same as requiring land ownership.. maybe we should go back to that requirement too.

https://www.idrivesafely.com/defensive-driving/trending/documents-you-need-get-your-texas-drivers-license/

Before heading in to get your license, all applicants will need the following documents:

• A completed applicationFormDetail.aspx?Id=263&FormNumber=DL 14A.pdf Internetforms for an Original Texas Driver License or Identification Card.
• Proof of your Social Security number (Social Security card, SSA-1099 form, paystub, W-2, etc.).
• Proof of your identity (Texas driver's license or ID within two years of expiration, U.S. citizenship certificate, foreign passport, unexpired passport, unexpired military photo ID card, etc.).
• Proof of U.S. citizenship or lawful presence in the country (birth certificate or birth record, U.S. passport, permanent resident card, Employment Authorization Card, I-94, US Travel Document, etc.).
• Proof of residency (mortgage, current deed, monthly mortgage statement, utility bill within 90 days, homeowners or renters insurance policy or statement, medical or health card, concealed handgun license, current year W-2 or 1099 form, etc.).
• New residents: Proof of insurance and ownership for any vehicle you own (evidence of financial responsibility and Texas vehicle registration.

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So Democrat voters are predominantly lolpoor AND incapable of lawfully registering to vote and then bringing an ID with them. Next thing you will be saying it's targeted at people of color. Absolutely no R voters would be impacted because they rich and have IDs due to their (white) privilege.

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Umm those number according to Gallop and you know that to be true so why pretend you don't

https://news.gallup.com/poll/151310/u.s.-republican-not-conservative.aspx

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Republicans get a much higher percentage of the demographic without college, Democrats get a much higher percentage of the demographic with college...

So, I guess you're saying that being college educated makes you dumber.

A passport is not a requirement. That's a lie. Stop regurgitating it.

A passport isn't a requirement by the law. It just happens to be one of the few IDs that satisfy all the requirements of the law.

These will satisfy the id/citizenship requirements of the law:

-Unexpired U.S. Passport (book or card)
-Unexpired Enhanced Tribal Card (ETC)

These IDs COULD satisfy the requirements provided you are a U.S. citizen. They are available to non citizens but will also indicate citizenship status:

-Unexpired Free and Secure Trade (FAST) Card
-Unexpired NEXUS Card
-Unexpired SENTRI Card
-Unexpired Global Entry Card
-Unexpired U.S. Enhanced Driver's License or Enhanced Identification Card(only available in MI, MN, NY, VT, and WA)

Outside of those IDs you would need to present a document that proves your citizenship and a document that proves your identity. For most people that means a birth certificate and a driver's license.

If you just have a drivers license with the gold star you are good. It's not hard. Ugh!

100% of people in this country have an ID even if illegal.

If you receive payments from the government or make payments to the government you have an ID. That's virtually 100%.

Now whether the person's ID is the legitimate one to vote in that particular location is the question and the reason they don't want it to be a requirement.

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If you just have a drivers license with the gold star you are good. It's not hard. Ugh!

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No you aren't. Real ID does not satisfy the requirements of the law.

The fact that so many people still believe this is a real problem.

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nai06 said:

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Ok but that's just it. You don't have to be a citizen to be able to get a license, just have legal residency status.


The Real ID just verifies your identity because it's available to non citizens too.

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So why can't they make it so that ID show residency.. you already bringing in the paperwork..

Or provide residency requirements in registration? This is something you have all year to accomplish, then you legal state ID validate you are the voter (Who prove citizenship in registration and obtaining ID).

Both these mechanism accomplish the same thing, without requiring obtaining a new form of ID in a passport which most American don't have or can afford the $130 fee and 4-8 week wait.

Finally, what to stop the federal government to delay passports to regions that vote against their interest. Especially since the SAFE act will probably be implemented this mid term in Nov.. and catch a lot of ignorant people by surprise when they show up to vote and don'[t have a passport or ID. (Yes I am calling a lot of Americans ignorant because they don't follow current events)

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If the law catches you by "surprise" hen yes you are ignorant and should by definition not be voting. Voting is for the informed, not ignorant. Hope this helps.

Also, why are you spreading some misinformation about passports being required? Why lie, mislead?

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A passport isn't a requirement by the law. It just happens to be one of the few IDs that satisfy all the requirements of the law.

These will satisfy the id/citizenship requirements of the law:

-Unexpired U.S. Passport (book or card)
-Unexpired Enhanced Tribal Card (ETC)

These IDs COULD satisfy the requirements provided you are a U.S. citizen. They are available to non citizens but will also indicate citizenship status:

-Unexpired Free and Secure Trade (FAST) Card
-Unexpired NEXUS Card
-Unexpired SENTRI Card
-Unexpired Global Entry Card
-Unexpired U.S. Enhanced Driver's License or Enhanced Identification Card(only available in MI, MN, NY, VT, and WA)

Outside of those IDs you would need to present a document that proves your citizenship and a document that proves your identity. For most people that means a birth certificate and a driver's license.

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Those are requirements to register to vote, not to actually vote. Get registered, then present REAL ID or similar on voting day.

Making people prove they are citizens to register to vote has always been the assumed requirement, just poorly enforced in lib controlled areas because they want non-registered and ineligible votes to vote illegally in elections.

Why are you so against legal voters voting?

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MagnumLoad said:

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If you just have a drivers license with the gold star you are good. It's not hard. Ugh!

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No you aren't. Real ID does not satisfy the requirements of the law.

The fact that so many people still believe this is a real problem.

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Real ID does not satisfy the requirement to register. To vote, it is perfectly acceptable. Quit parroting Reddit talking points to fear monger. Disgusting.

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nai06 said:

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A passport isn't a requirement by the law. It just happens to be one of the few IDs that satisfy all the requirements of the law.

These will satisfy the id/citizenship requirements of the law:

-Unexpired U.S. Passport (book or card)
-Unexpired Enhanced Tribal Card (ETC)

These IDs COULD satisfy the requirements provided you are a U.S. citizen. They are available to non citizens but will also indicate citizenship status:

-Unexpired Free and Secure Trade (FAST) Card
-Unexpired NEXUS Card
-Unexpired SENTRI Card
-Unexpired Global Entry Card
-Unexpired U.S. Enhanced Driver's License or Enhanced Identification Card(only available in MI, MN, NY, VT, and WA)

Outside of those IDs you would need to present a document that proves your citizenship and a document that proves your identity. For most people that means a birth certificate and a driver's license.

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Those are requirements to register to vote, not to actually vote. Get registered, then present REAL ID or similar on voting day.

Making people prove they are citizens to register to vote has always been the assumed requirement, just poorly enforced in lib controlled areas because they want non-registered and ineligible votes to vote illegally in elections.

Why are you so against legal voters voting?

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If you don't have those documents, you aren't going to be register to vote so flashing a Real ID at the polls os a bit of a moot point.