The House passes the SAVE Act

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Ag4life80
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I didn't know much about him, but I didn't have Thune being completely worthless and incompetent on my Bingo card. Just horrifically incompetent.
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He's a Uniparty tick.
Ellis Wyatt
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He's a clone of McConnell, without the obvious CCP ties.
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Ag4life80 said:

I didn't know much about him, but I didn't have Thune being completely worthless and incompetent on my Bingo card. Just horrifically incompetent.

I don't think he in incompetent. I think Thune is doing exactly what he wants to do, which is killing the SAVE Act in a way that he can blame it on somebody else.

This whole situation depresses me. It's hard to have any faith in your government if you can't believe the reliability of your elections. You have to show ID to do almost anything in our country, except our greatest civic responsibility? Every poll shows that at least 70% of Americans think this you must show your ID to vote! Yet, a handful of people who care more about themselves than the people they swore to represent are preventing the will of the people and allowing elections to be compromised.

Thune needs to be removed from leadership and then primaried. He is a clown.
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Thunes behavior only reinforces my belief that both sides buy votes as necessary. This type of fraud cannot be attributed to one party only, unless the party is self preservation. I which case congress is utterly filled with those types. If only state legislators could hold at least their senators accountable. Voters sure as hell can't.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

The government does not share information well. By design.

So I just want to take the opportunity to observe that the new executive order by President Trump is essentially doing exactly what I'm advocating for here -- using the records held by the Social Security administration, which apparently contains enough data for DHS to verify a person's citizenship status, to confirm that a person who is registered to vote is indeed eligible to vote.

Now, there certainly is the potential for registration under stolen social security numbers. There was a big bust in Florida a few years ago where a construction contractor under mandatory eVerify was employing a bunch of illegal aliens who had provided stolen social security numbers and fraudulent ID documents to pass that system. However, under Florida law there is no onus on the employers to verify the authenticity of ID documents, where when I registered to vote in Florida I was required to send in copies of my driver's license along with my social security number, and the state does verify that the license number and the name match the person who is registering. So in order for a fraudulent voter registration to be successful under the new EO, the fraudster would need to steal both the social security number of a person and their drivers' license number in order to register under their name, and then they would have to hope that the real owner of those numbers didn't try to register himself and cause a flag when that registration was rejected as a duplicate.

Seems pretty secure to me.

Info on the EO in case you missed it:

Fact Sheet: President Donald J. Trump Ensures Citizenship Verification and Voter Eligibility in Federal Elections The White House
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Can't make this up. John Thune on the SAVE Act: "If we don't have other pressing stuff in front of us that has to get done...then we'll see about getting that going."

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Well yes it's pressing we fast track getting to 50 trillion national debt. Then after that vacation plans for later this year. Then what's for dinner next week on Wednesday. But yes it's important to him.
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To your point, they're only working 2 weeks (11 days) next month:
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4 said:

With every single Democrat except one voting against it.

The most recent Fox poll shows this as an 85/15 issue in this country, with 85 pct in favor of a photo ID requirement to vote.

Hell, 71% of DEMOCRATS are in favor of it.

What are the Democrats thinking?

They are going to wear this one around their neck come November

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/only-one-house-dem-voted-in-favor-voter-id-proof-citizenship-us-elections

Democrats are not there to represent their districts. They are there for power and control over all Americans.
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Colonel Kurtz said:

Can't make this up. John Thune on the SAVE Act: "If we don't have other pressing stuff in front of us that has to get done...then we'll see about getting that going."




That POS needs his neck stretched.
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Thune is a crook who knows that he needs to cheat to get elected or someone has something on him.

What is more important to a representative democracy than election integrity?
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This is the most belligerent betrayal of the American people in a long time.

Specifically, Republicans. They're showing themselves to be exactly who we thought they were.

It's time for the tree of Liberty to be watered again.
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Thune is an establishment tool in the mold of McCain and Romney. They would rather be the hapless minority and hobnob on the cocktail circuit than to lead. I'm beginning to think the anti-Trump wing is intentionally trying to lose in November specifically to stop Trump from getting anything done in his last two years. With friends like this, who needs enemies?

This is a complete betrayal of the American people.
Ellis Wyatt
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Where is John Cornyn? Thune is his buddy. Why isn't he demanding the people of Texas get what they want?
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Ellis Wyatt said:

Where is John Cornyn? Thune is his buddy. Why isn't he demanding the people of Texas get what they want?

Thune is showing us exactly why we need to vote out guys like he and Cornyn when we get the chance. We can do it now or we can put up with another six years of this BS while we hope for the perfect candidate to come along and oppose him next time.
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At this point the Republican cockroaches are all positioning and preparing for post midterms. They are at their best only when they are ranting about what they wouid do if they ever get in power.

There was a reason many things needed to be done early and fast. It wasn't and now it's over.

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Ag87H2O said:

Thune is an establishment tool in the mold of McCain and Romney. They would rather be the hapless minority and hobnob on the cocktail circuit than to lead. I'm beginning to think the anti-Trump wing is intentionally trying to lose in November specifically to stop Trump from getting anything done in his last two years. With friends like this, who needs enemies?

This is a complete betrayal of the American people.

This ilk of Republican is the Karl Rove Bush group and they are never going let Trump get what he or the people want. They want to ride out the next two years and get one of their own in so it goes back to business as usual. Our good senator from Texas. Cruz sure has shrank like a violet lately. He went up to change the way things were done and now we get zero from him.
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cypress-ag said:

Ag87H2O said:

Thune is an establishment tool in the mold of McCain and Romney. They would rather be the hapless minority and hobnob on the cocktail circuit than to lead. I'm beginning to think the anti-Trump wing is intentionally trying to lose in November specifically to stop Trump from getting anything done in his last two years. With friends like this, who needs enemies?

This is a complete betrayal of the American people.

This ilk of Republican is the Karl Rove Bush group and they are never going let Trump get what he or the people want. They want to ride out the next two years and get one of their own in so it goes back to business as usual. Our good senator from Texas. Cruz sure has shrank like a violet lately. He went up to change the way things were done and now we get zero from him.


Oh, Im sure Cruz is busy working with democrats on some small bipartisan bill, that nobody cares about, so that he and the others can get up there and brag about how they reached across the isle and worked together on passing the bill. I like Ted, but I think he's been up there too long.
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This nation needs to invest in more rope and more trees, so we can take care of politicians properly.
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We can tell which Republicans have relied on voter fraud to keep their seats for so long.
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will25u said:



This right here is why all the anger at Thune on this is misplaced.

There is not a thing he can do to get Collins, McConnell, Murkowski, and Tillis to vote for this bill. No one could.

You can't "lead" people that are diametrically opposed to what you want.

I'm Gipper
 
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