nortex97 said:

---

Susan Collins flips to a yes on the condition that no proof of citizenship on Election Day.

Quote:

---

Collins had previously expressed reservations about earlier iterations of the legislation, particularly provisions that would have required voters to present proof of citizenship, such as passports or birth certificates, each time they cast a ballot.

However, according to reporting from The Maine Wire, the current House-passed version of the SAVE America Act has removed that requirement, instead allowing state-issued identification to suffice, an adjustment Collins says was critical in securing her support.

"Requiring voters to produce passports or birth certificates on election day as opposed to just a state-issued ID would have placed an unnecessary burden on the voters. That provision is no longer in the bill and dropping this requirement was key to getting my support," Collins said.

"The law is clear that in this country only American citizens are eligible to vote in federal elections," Collins added.

---

Dem-Commies will filibuster and declare this is the end of the world, but I think eventually bend the knee to allow a floor vote now.

---

Question is, does that mean Same Day registrations on election day can be done without the citizenship requirement? Are these still provisional ballots? How do they get cured if so? If they are registered before AND have proven citizenship then I agree only a normal full state ID should be required and it must be a full Real ID, none of those ID's given top illegals and visa holders IMO. The article doesn't clarify if this provision was what Collins wanted removed or if it was a different one.

Quote:

---

The current House-passed SAVE America Act still requires proof of citizenship BEFORE registering to vote, per updated bill summaries:

Quote:

---

The bill would "require photo ID at polling places and mandate states obtain proof of citizenship before registering a person to vote."

---

What You Need (House-Passed Version)
Register to vote - Documentary proof of citizenship (passport, birth certificate, etc.)

Vote on Election Day - State-issued photo ID

Collins' endorsement comes with one critical caveat that may frustrate some on the right: she is drawing a firm red line when it comes to eliminating the Senate's legislative filibuster in order to pass the bill.
"I oppose eliminating the legislative filibuster," Collins said.

---

She is also still against the removing the filibuster the old cow.

Idea: Offer a free alcoholic beverage to every voter as they exit the voting booth, but in order to claim it, they have to show proof of age.

I bet the "difficulty" that minorities have getting ID will suddenly disappear.

BonfireNerd04 said:

---

Idea: Offer a free alcoholic beverage to every voter as they exit the voting booth, but in order to claim it, they have to show proof of age.

I bet the "difficulty" that minorities have getting ID will suddenly disappear.

---

The prolific use of alcohol to influence voters is at least as old as America itself; George Washington certainly approved.

Quote:

---

Voters for the Virginia House of Burgesses in 1758 had their choice of candidates. And one of thema wealthy planter who had made his name in the French and Indian Wargave them their choice of alcohol, too. Candidate George Washington plied potential voters with 47 gallons of beer, 35 gallons of wine, 2 gallons of cider, 3 1/2 pints of brandy and a whopping 70 gallons of rum punch. He carried the election with 310 votes.

The future president wasn't the only candidate who knew how to grease the wheels of the colonial electorateand his voters weren't the only colonists who knew how to party on election day. In the days before the American Revolution, colonial elections were festive, even rowdy occasions. Elections were a chance to weigh in on important business, but they were also an opportunity to let loose and party.

---

Of course, fraud in Philadelphia with illegal voters was also quite unsurprising:

Quote:

---

Elections weren't always as festive: Occasionally, they became dangerous. In 1742, for example, a scuffle in Philadelphia escalated into an outright riot. Quaker politicians had long dominated the city's political scene, but a growing group of Anglican politicians threatened their dominance in city government. Amidst rumors that the Quakers had recruited unnaturalized Germans to vote for them, a group of rowdy, pro-Anglican sailors descendedon the courthouse. Violence ensued, and the fiasco became known as the city's "Bloody Election." (The Quakers prevailed.)

---

FatZilla said:

---

nortex97 said:

---

Susan Collins flips to a yes on the condition that no proof of citizenship on Election Day.

Quote:

---

Collins had previously expressed reservations about earlier iterations of the legislation, particularly provisions that would have required voters to present proof of citizenship, such as passports or birth certificates, each time they cast a ballot.

However, according to reporting from The Maine Wire, the current House-passed version of the SAVE America Act has removed that requirement, instead allowing state-issued identification to suffice, an adjustment Collins says was critical in securing her support.

"Requiring voters to produce passports or birth certificates on election day as opposed to just a state-issued ID would have placed an unnecessary burden on the voters. That provision is no longer in the bill and dropping this requirement was key to getting my support," Collins said.

"The law is clear that in this country only American citizens are eligible to vote in federal elections," Collins added.

---

Dem-Commies will filibuster and declare this is the end of the world, but I think eventually bend the knee to allow a floor vote now.

---

Question is, does that mean Same Day registrations on election day can be done without the citizenship requirement? Are these still provisional ballots? How do they get cured if so? If they are registered before AND have proven citizenship then I agree only a normal full state ID should be required and it must be a full Real ID, none of those ID's given top illegals and visa holders IMO. The article doesn't clarify if this provision was what Collins wanted removed or if it was a different one.

Quote:

---

The current House-passed SAVE America Act still requires proof of citizenship BEFORE registering to vote, per updated bill summaries:

Quote:

---

The bill would "require photo ID at polling places and mandate states obtain proof of citizenship before registering a person to vote."

---

What You Need (House-Passed Version)
Register to vote - Documentary proof of citizenship (passport, birth certificate, etc.)

Vote on Election Day - State-issued photo ID

Collins' endorsement comes with one critical caveat that may frustrate some on the right: she is drawing a firm red line when it comes to eliminating the Senate's legislative filibuster in order to pass the bill.
"I oppose eliminating the legislative filibuster," Collins said.

---

She is also still against the removing the filibuster the old cow.

---

Cows are smarter

ETA, only need 50 votes to eliminate the filibuster. Simple majority to change rules. Vance for the win

They don't care. They're not serious. They'll have a vote on it knowing it won't pass and then say they tried and the media will run with it. No talk of filibusters, etc. So frustrating. Watching the destruction of our country in slow motion while the "good guys" have the power to stop it. Nauseating.

This is an amazing point:

Quote:

---

Democrats argue that voter ID requirements disproportionately disenfranchise people with the least education and lowest incomes. Yet, ironically, survey results show that voters who did not graduate from high school were 27 percentage points more likely to support photo voter ID laws than those who attended graduate school. Similarly, individuals earning less than $30,000 per year were seven percentage points more likely to support photo ID requirements than those earning over $200,000 annually. The well-educated and higher-income individuals thus express more concern about the impact of ID laws on the less educated and lower-income groups than those groups express themselves.

---

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2026/02/17/virtually_all_countries_support_voter_photo_id__so_why_the_filibuster.html

Quote:

---

Dan Bongino had John Solomon on his show today and Solomon made an interesting prediction:

That Trump will soon unveil evidence that foreign powers meddled in the 2020 election, which will result in John Thune ultimately caving on the filibuster and the Save America act will get passed.

"I think Donald Trump is going to change the narrative in America. I think he is going to change some Senators minds…

He is going to start revealing some of the intelligence that was kept from the American people. And we're going to see that our foreign adversaries have monkeyed around with our (election) system more than we knew…

And I think when Senators realize their state could have been targeted… there is going to be a different debate in America…

I think there's some big, significant, and very troubling revelations about the vulnerabilities of our elections that the President is about to unveil on the American public."

@dbongino @jsolomonReports

---

Here is the link to the full show, with full interview: https://t.co/BKUI0jkEgs

— TheStormHasArrived (@TheStormRedux) February 17, 2026

I want to believe. Solomon is a pretty solid reporter, fwiw.

🚨President Trump posts a 1996 video of Chuck Schumer supporting voter ID to prevent fraud

"Everywhere people go, they're asked for Social Security or driver's license! This is anti-fraud!" pic.twitter.com/lxCaIJd9Os

— Unlimited L's (@unlimited_ls) February 18, 2026

Update: Schumer, like all Democrats, is a pathetic liar.

Sorry for the triple post/replying to myself but Trump himself putting this out is…something significant.

🇺🇸🔥 pic.twitter.com/hWOlYEtMxq

— Dan Bongino (@dbongino) February 18, 2026

She'll just claim she was talking about all the US citizens afraid of being kidnapped off the streets. They lie so easily and their idiot constituents just want to be entertained.

The FBI needs to dump some bombshell evidence about the fraud in Fulton County. They need to do it soon, and get the media talking about it...

Otherwise, the DEMs are just going to keep rolling with the same tired talking point that it is "extremely rare" for illegals to vote in our elections.

Ramdiesel said:

---

The FBI needs to dump some bombshell evidence about the fraud in Fulton County. They need to do it soon, and get the media talking about it...

Otherwise, the DEMs are just going to keep rolling with the same tired talking point that it is "extremely rare" for illegals to vote in our elections.

---

Media so corrupt that it would have to be insanely fraudulent (like big players going to jail) for them to cover it.

Do something senate!

Fully expecting the GOP to ***** out and not put up a fight as this gets shot down in the senate.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/trumps-election-bill-save-america-act-50-senate-votes-democrats-block-rcna259351

"Republicans control 53 seats in the Senate. Some in the party have not signed on to the measure, including Sens. Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska, and Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. Murkowski called it an example of the "one-size-fits-all mandates from Washington" that Republicans regularly criticize. And McConnell, who hasn't commented on the bill, has long said he believes states should run their own elections without federal intrusion."

Wish we could get rid of McConnell, Collins and Murkowski.
Need 1 Dem and the Nuclear option

Mitch McConnell confirmed he is voting “No” on the SAVE ACT

Mitch McConnell is 83 years old and is so cognitively impaired he couldn’t even answer if he’s running for reelection in 2026

You have to see this to believe it. These people are everything wrong with America. pic.twitter.com/pyaHuZHf9g

— Wall Street Apes (@WallStreetApes) February 19, 2026

Colonel Kurtz said:

---

Mitch McConnell confirmed he is voting “No” on the SAVE ACT

Mitch McConnell is 83 years old and is so cognitively impaired he couldn’t even answer if he’s running for reelection in 2026

You have to see this to believe it. These people are everything wrong with America. pic.twitter.com/pyaHuZHf9g

— Wall Street Apes (@WallStreetApes) February 19, 2026

---

I wish he would step aside. If that means a dinosaur stuck by a meteor, I don't mind a bit.

Churtle. Bought and paid for by China. He'll stay until he dies or Trump and Vance are out.

F that turtle.

....and John Carter is every bit as impaired. But, the Texas GOP refuses to allow him to be primaried.

Wish he would step aside too. It's not right
Very sad
He's lost

Both chambers of Congress continue to provide lessons in why there should be age limits to running for office.

Doesn't McConnell also sit on the Rules Committee? I thought he has the power to schedule bills for debate or not.

Guess we have this Dem. Don't need the RINO 3 above.

Fitch said:

---

Both chambers of Congress continue to provide lessons in why there should be age limits to running for office.

Doesn't McConnell also sit on the Rules Committee? I thought he has the power to schedule bills for debate or not.

---

He does. He's the reason the SAVE Act has been sitting in committee for over a year.

Otherwise, that's it. Mitch hates Trump and hates conservatives. There is no way in hell he would stop illegals from voting.

Ellis Wyatt said:

---

Otherwise, that's it. Mitch hates Trump and hates conservatives. There is no way in hell he would stop illegals from voting.

---

This is a case where Trump made his own bed by ruthlessly attacking Mitch and calling him names publicly back in his first term after Mitch paved the way to get those 3 SC justices confirmed. There was just no need for it. Some people shake it off, but others hold grudges forever. It doesn't change the fact that Mitch is being a traitor on this, but Trump could have avoided this with better behavior. Mitch was once a strong ally for him.

The voter has the power of Term Limits but chose not to exercise that power. I believe the Founders of this country were wiser than we are and you haven't thought through consequences of imposing Term Limits. It would solve one problem but create several other problems that might be more destructive than current system.

Just remember you have the power of Term Limits for everyone you vote for by convincing others to vote an individual out. I don't vote in Kentucky so that is on Kentucky because I would be a NO vote on Massie, Mitch, and Rand!

Mitch is not a conservative. He represents himself and his family. And China.

KentK93 said:

---

The voter has the power of Term Limits but chose not to exercise that power. I believe the Founders of this country were wiser than we are and you haven't thought through consequences of imposing Term Limits. It would solve one problem but create several other problems that might be more destructive than current system.

Just remember you have the power of Term Limits for everyone you vote for by convincing others to vote an individual out. I don't vote in Kentucky so that is on Kentucky because I would be a NO vote on Massie, Mitch, and Rand!

---

Does this apply to suffrage, central banking, second amendment, welfare, etc.?

I strongly agree with you that the founders of the country were wiser than our political leaders today, but with such a new type of governance with the Republic they created, I don't think they knew of every possible contingency needed to overcome the greed for power that politicians of the future would strive for, nor the apathy that voters would show towards stifling said power.

Quote:

---

Does this apply to suffrage, central banking, second amendment, welfare, etc.?

---

Yes I believe so on most of those items because what we have seen played out after changes. I think one needs to try to think of all the downsides of making a change before making that change to truly understand how a change impact will be.

One of the impacts of Senate & House term limits in my opinion would be to give more power to the staffs & lobbyists because they would have more seniority over time. We need each individual voter to truly assess their own representatives and vote accordingly. Term limits is more of I don't like how others vote and I want to limit their capacity to vote for that individual. We should do more to influence our politicians to impose limits on themselves by asking questions about their time in office.

That is my opinion at least. Also I haven't read or educated myself enough to have a truly educated opinion on central banking and I don't see me doing that anytime soon. All the other items you listed I think there is ample evidence that there has been positive & negative impact by the changes.