60 Minutes/The Catholic Church is a joke

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You know what is really weird? The change made from the original picture!





I'm Gipper
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AgResearch said:

People watch 60 minutes???

I watched it for the Trucking story. Quit watching it at the, "War has become vogue", statement. Then, came back to it and rewound to the Trucking story. The shark story was interesting as well…
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The Catholic Church needs illegal immigration Protestant churches have done a great job of getting second generation Hispanics. Catholic church needs to keep bringing them in where they can make more money here and give the church more. They will also run off conservative bishops or priest.

Bishop Strickland who was just on Tucker show was ran off for his conservative views even against illegal immigration. Not Catholic but was in attendance when he was railing on not following are nations laws. Went harder then any Baptist preacher I had ever heard. I knew it wouldn't be long until they got rid of him he lasted a few more years but eventually ended up on sidelines.

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FlyRod said:

Catholics/critics of Catholics who have never read or tried to understand what an Encyclical is or means will always crack me up.


Care to educate us? That might actually be helpful.
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CrackerJackAg said:

Dave Robicheaux said:

Maybe keep politics out of religion. Wouldn't that be nice


As a Christian you can't separate your politics from your beliefs

The Orthodox and Catholic churches were the only Christian Churches (of any note at all) during the Crusades. So it was ALL Christians. Sorry to burst your Protestant bubble if you think the Baptist were laying low.

So you are agreeing with them that war is bad now? Or are you mad at them for saying that war is bad when you think it is good? I'm not sure what you're expecting them to say. Can they not learn from their lessons?

Outside of fringe Christian beliefs, which American protestants have pretty much all of them, war should be condemned. (if I have to quote scripture on that then I don't think we're on the same planet)

Many Christians believe that you should be compassionate and generous to foreigners. As Isreal was once a foreign people and a foreign land. Exodus 13:2

Personally, I have my faults and I want them the **** gone.

I don't act the hypocrite and claim some weird justification for my political beliefs and separate them from my religious beliefs though.

I pray for my failings. Loving people is the hardest.






Sometimes war is the least bad choice. Ask the amolakites.
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Phatbob said:

I've had enough of politicians from Chicago misrepresenting the Bible to justify shoving leftism down my throat. No thanks.


The Pope is further to the right than Trump on Abortion, LGBT issues and divorce
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Severian the Torturer said:

Phatbob said:

I've had enough of politicians from Chicago misrepresenting the Bible to justify shoving leftism down my throat. No thanks.


The Pope is further to the right than Trump on Abortion, LGBT issues and divorce

You might want to double check Leo's position on that one, and what profanity etc. he allowed in to celebrate LGBT stuff in the Vatican last year (I won't share the pics of the 'guests' who were highly profane). He also blessed a piece of ice over 'climate change' and had no issue meeting with atheist abortion champion David Axelrod so I am a bit skeptical of his conservative political positions, but maybe you are right on divorce.
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Ok, this explains a lot of the Pope's stance on immigration.... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


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It's big business. Or was.


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I'm so old I can remember the outrage when Pope Paul spoke out against the Vietnam war. I think it's just something Popes do when it comes to wars in general. On a side note, my brown wife commented not long ago that the Spanish masses had been smaller, and the Iglesia de Christo down the road has been a ghost town.
It only took me a year to figure out this place is nuts!
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nortex97 said:

Severian the Torturer said:

Phatbob said:

I've had enough of politicians from Chicago misrepresenting the Bible to justify shoving leftism down my throat. No thanks.


The Pope is further to the right than Trump on Abortion, LGBT issues and divorce

You might want to double check Leo's position on that one, and what profanity etc. he allowed in to celebrate LGBT stuff in the Vatican last year (I won't share the pics of the 'guests' who were highly profane). He also blessed a piece of ice over 'climate change' and had no issue meeting with atheist abortion champion David Axelrod so I am a bit skeptical of his conservative political positions, but maybe you are right on divorce.



Christopher Hale? He's a left cath whose job it is to make **** up about the church being liberal. Don't listen to anything he says. He's a hack.
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johnnyblaze36 said:

They are interviewing three priests who have zero understanding of history. And the new Pope is as same as the old. Total woke loser.

First, they are condeming war and Trump. Have they ever opened a history book and studied how much war the Catholics have been involved in throughout the last 2,000 years?

Then they go on to condemn ICE and the fact that they wear masks and are opposed to us trying to keep our borders sovereign.

I hope these Cardinals CBS found don't speak for the entire church but good God these people are ridiculous.



60minutes found three woke priests. Now poll the other 37,000 in the U.S.
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Monkeypoxfighter said:

I'm so old I can remember the outrage when Pope Paul spoke out against the Vietnam war. I think it's just something Popes do when it comes to wars in general. On a side note, my brown wife commented not long ago that the Spanish masses had been smaller, and the Iglesia de Christo down the road has been a ghost town.


The Pope is always going to be against war. God will never bless a war (post Christ) because a blessing implies that God's will is being done. While our gift of free will allows us to do virtually whatever we want, and there are some wars that are "just", the fact that circumstances have dictated that wars have to be fought places them outside of God's will.
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I don't care about him or the Elbridge Colby story, just the piece of ice bit I find...not likely for anyone remotely conservative politically.
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Most Catholics have issues with the cardinals they chose to interview.
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if they had chosen Cd. Burke, DiNardo or Dolan, they would have had a very different discusiion.
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"Give to Caesar what is Caesar's."

The church is his, and he was clear it had no place in earthly politics.

"A time for war and a time for peace"

Again, emphasizing the separation of faith and earthly conflicts



It would be helpful for them to read the word they profess every once in a while
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Street Fighter said:

Most Catholics have issues with the cardinals they chose to interview.

This, cherry picking your sources to fit their narrative is a 60mins tradition. Now interview the other 14 Cardinals in the US.

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FrioAg 00 said:

"Give to Caesar what is Caesar's."

The church is his, and he was clear it had no place in earthly politics.

"A time for war and a time for peace"

Again, emphasizing the separation of faith and earthly conflicts



It would be helpful for them to read the word they profess every once in a while

This is nothing near what that meant. Christ was saying that Caesar's law is subordinate to God's law. This wasn't a treatise on separation of Church and State.

This is like saying Christ would be fine with abortion.
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Street Fighter said:

Most Catholics have issues with the cardinals they chose to interview.

Exactly, they couldn't have found 3 more liberal Catholic Cardinals in the USA.

It would be like interviewing the Lincoln Project for an inside look at GOP sentiment on Trump.
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Severian the Torturer said:

Monkeypoxfighter said:

I'm so old I can remember the outrage when Pope Paul spoke out against the Vietnam war. I think it's just something Popes do when it comes to wars in general. On a side note, my brown wife commented not long ago that the Spanish masses had been smaller, and the Iglesia de Christo down the road has been a ghost town.


The Pope is always going to be against war. God will never bless a war (post Christ) because a blessing implies that God's will is being done. While our gift of free will allows us to do virtually whatever we want, and there are some wars that are "just", the fact that circumstances have dictated that wars have to be fought places them outside of God's will.


You are in no position to say what God would or wouldn't bless.

God explicitly states that at least some wars are a part of his will in the Bible. I'll leave it up to Him on what he does and doesn't bless,.
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Silent For Too Long said:

Severian the Torturer said:

Monkeypoxfighter said:

I'm so old I can remember the outrage when Pope Paul spoke out against the Vietnam war. I think it's just something Popes do when it comes to wars in general. On a side note, my brown wife commented not long ago that the Spanish masses had been smaller, and the Iglesia de Christo down the road has been a ghost town.


The Pope is always going to be against war. God will never bless a war (post Christ) because a blessing implies that God's will is being done. While our gift of free will allows us to do virtually whatever we want, and there are some wars that are "just", the fact that circumstances have dictated that wars have to be fought places them outside of God's will.


You are in no position to say what God would or wouldn't bless.

God explicitly states that at least some wars are a part of his will in the Bible. I'll leave it up to Him on what he does and doesn't bless,.

I thought the entire point of Protestantism is that I'm the one who gets to decide what God does?

Can you show me where God blesses War post resurrection?
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Logos Stick said:

Ok, this explains a lot of the Pope's stance on immigration.... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$




These guys who are pontificating about nothing are so full of ****.
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Severian the Torturer said:

Silent For Too Long said:

Severian the Torturer said:

Monkeypoxfighter said:

I'm so old I can remember the outrage when Pope Paul spoke out against the Vietnam war. I think it's just something Popes do when it comes to wars in general. On a side note, my brown wife commented not long ago that the Spanish masses had been smaller, and the Iglesia de Christo down the road has been a ghost town.


The Pope is always going to be against war. God will never bless a war (post Christ) because a blessing implies that God's will is being done. While our gift of free will allows us to do virtually whatever we want, and there are some wars that are "just", the fact that circumstances have dictated that wars have to be fought places them outside of God's will.


You are in no position to say what God would or wouldn't bless.

God explicitly states that at least some wars are a part of his will in the Bible. I'll leave it up to Him on what he does and doesn't bless,.

I thought the entire point of Protestantism is that I'm the one who gets to decide what God does?

Can you show me where God blesses War post resurrection?

God's nature does not change. Jesus himself said that he did not come to bring peace on this earth.
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Phatbob said:

Severian the Torturer said:

Silent For Too Long said:

Severian the Torturer said:

Monkeypoxfighter said:

I'm so old I can remember the outrage when Pope Paul spoke out against the Vietnam war. I think it's just something Popes do when it comes to wars in general. On a side note, my brown wife commented not long ago that the Spanish masses had been smaller, and the Iglesia de Christo down the road has been a ghost town.


The Pope is always going to be against war. God will never bless a war (post Christ) because a blessing implies that God's will is being done. While our gift of free will allows us to do virtually whatever we want, and there are some wars that are "just", the fact that circumstances have dictated that wars have to be fought places them outside of God's will.


You are in no position to say what God would or wouldn't bless.

God explicitly states that at least some wars are a part of his will in the Bible. I'll leave it up to Him on what he does and doesn't bless,.

I thought the entire point of Protestantism is that I'm the one who gets to decide what God does?

Can you show me where God blesses War post resurrection?

God's nature does not change. Jesus himself said that he did not come to bring peace on this earth.

That's only because change implies imperfection which is not God, that's not saying God behaves the same way in all contexts.

Jesus is literally called the Prince of Peace, he's not some sort of Muad D'ib esque warlord. This is just reiterating that his followers will have to take up their cross and follow him, that the way of the Christian is not easy.
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Severian the Torturer said:

Silent For Too Long said:

Severian the Torturer said:

Monkeypoxfighter said:

I'm so old I can remember the outrage when Pope Paul spoke out against the Vietnam war. I think it's just something Popes do when it comes to wars in general. On a side note, my brown wife commented not long ago that the Spanish masses had been smaller, and the Iglesia de Christo down the road has been a ghost town.


The Pope is always going to be against war. God will never bless a war (post Christ) because a blessing implies that God's will is being done. While our gift of free will allows us to do virtually whatever we want, and there are some wars that are "just", the fact that circumstances have dictated that wars have to be fought places them outside of God's will.


You are in no position to say what God would or wouldn't bless.

God explicitly states that at least some wars are a part of his will in the Bible. I'll leave it up to Him on what he does and doesn't bless,.

I thought the entire point of Protestantism is that I'm the one who gets to decide what God does?

Can you show me where God blesses War post resurrection?


Can you show me where he condemns it?
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Maybe the Administration should be giving the Pope regular briefings. He only knows what he hears,
and I bet the MSM in Europe is as bad as it is here.


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Haven't I seen you defend The Crusades in the past?
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Silent For Too Long said:

Severian the Torturer said:

Silent For Too Long said:

Severian the Torturer said:

Monkeypoxfighter said:

I'm so old I can remember the outrage when Pope Paul spoke out against the Vietnam war. I think it's just something Popes do when it comes to wars in general. On a side note, my brown wife commented not long ago that the Spanish masses had been smaller, and the Iglesia de Christo down the road has been a ghost town.


The Pope is always going to be against war. God will never bless a war (post Christ) because a blessing implies that God's will is being done. While our gift of free will allows us to do virtually whatever we want, and there are some wars that are "just", the fact that circumstances have dictated that wars have to be fought places them outside of God's will.


You are in no position to say what God would or wouldn't bless.

God explicitly states that at least some wars are a part of his will in the Bible. I'll leave it up to Him on what he does and doesn't bless,.

I thought the entire point of Protestantism is that I'm the one who gets to decide what God does?

Can you show me where God blesses War post resurrection?


Can you show me where he condemns it?

Aside from "all who draw the sword will die from the sword" or "blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God" ?

Your argument is that the null thesis is that Christ is "pro-war"?
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Negative. It's like saying Christ very much cares about abortion, without any regard for what a secular government says or does.

When the catholic church decides to have a political opinion rather than a faith opinion, they are not conforming to the teachings of the word.
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FrioAg 00 said:

Negative. It's like saying Christ very much cares about abortion, without any regard for what a secular government says or does.

When the catholic church decides to have a political opinion rather than a faith opinion, they are not conforming to the teachings of the word.

What separates a political opinion from a moral opinion?

We're not discussing marginal tax rates here. Is the political hotbutton issue of abortion a separate thing apart from the moral argument?
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Silent For Too Long said:

Haven't I seen you defend The Crusades in the past?

I don't think so, I don't think I ever talk about the Crusades. Would you like me to defend them? I'll use the same argument that St. Thomas Aquinas uses in his just war theory.
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Severian the Torturer said:

Silent For Too Long said:

Severian the Torturer said:

Silent For Too Long said:

Severian the Torturer said:

Monkeypoxfighter said:

I'm so old I can remember the outrage when Pope Paul spoke out against the Vietnam war. I think it's just something Popes do when it comes to wars in general. On a side note, my brown wife commented not long ago that the Spanish masses had been smaller, and the Iglesia de Christo down the road has been a ghost town.


The Pope is always going to be against war. God will never bless a war (post Christ) because a blessing implies that God's will is being done. While our gift of free will allows us to do virtually whatever we want, and there are some wars that are "just", the fact that circumstances have dictated that wars have to be fought places them outside of God's will.


You are in no position to say what God would or wouldn't bless.

God explicitly states that at least some wars are a part of his will in the Bible. I'll leave it up to Him on what he does and doesn't bless,.

I thought the entire point of Protestantism is that I'm the one who gets to decide what God does?

Can you show me where God blesses War post resurrection?


Can you show me where he condemns it?

Aside from "all who draw the sword will die from the sword" or "blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God" ?

Your argument is that the null thesis is that Christ is "pro-war"?


Again, the Bible clearly, explicitly states God uses War to execute His Will at times.

I know you are aware there is tremendous precedent in Church history for just wars. I'm not sure why you are pretending to be ignorant of that now, but the internet makes people do weird things.
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Severian the Torturer said:

Silent For Too Long said:

Haven't I seen you defend The Crusades in the past?

I don't think so, I don't think I ever talk about the Crusades. Would you like me to defend them? I'll use the same argument that St. Thomas Aquinas uses in his just war theory.


Thomas Aquinas is exactly what I'm alluding to.
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Rapier108 said:

Given he path the Catholic Church is going down, it is likely the ***** of Babylon in Revelations.

This has been known since the Reformation.

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