WaltonAg18 said:

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WaltonAg18 said:

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Anyone surprised about what Pope Leo is simply willfully ignorant. The Church has been very consistent about their themes and messaging for the last 1500 years. Everything that he has said corresponds to the true ideals of being pro-life, even for our enemies. How fortunate that the usual "but I go to church every Sunday it doesn't matter if I wish death on liberals and tyrants" posturing done here is finally facing some pushback.

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This is completely false. Have you been awake since 2015 and have you seen how the Catholic church has reacted to the topic of gay marriage? Just wanted to add that on as an item in which nearly every Democrat policy maker on Capitol Hill (start with Nancy) claims they are some great Catholic steward.

What do they do intead of your assertion? Abortion on demand. Gay/Trans for everyobdy. Let everyone and their mother and dog into our country unchecked, etc. And then have the audacity to criticize our country from their shiny, walled in, painted palace.

The Pope is not some infallible being, especially Leo and all of the ones before him. In fact, the dude is wrong about practically everything and should just stfu.

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Thank you for showing everyone that you are incapable of doing your own research. I'm going to say this as gently as I can since staff has my posts under a microscope at the moment.

The Church maintains to this day that proper marriages are lifelong, open to procreation, and heterosexual. You're likely thinking of what Pope Francis allowed, which was the blessing of those couples - the same way those who are not Catholic can receive a blessing at every single Catholic mass around the world.

Senile politicians who have received the Sacraments =/= the Catholic Church and its leadership. The same way that many so-called Catholic Republicans are more than happy to whisk their impregnated staffers to other states to murder the extramarital child. Politicians lie, more at seven.


The rest of your post is just nonsense, entirely based on fantasy. Unless, of course, you're capable of providing a shred of evidence.

You're correct in saying the Pope is not infallible in all things. Catholics do not believe he is 100% infallible. He also does not claim to be infallible unless he is speaking from the chair of Peter, whom you might remember from a little book that's usually stored on the back of a pew. I recommend you pick it up again and give it a once over.

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Ahh, yes, I remember where his chair was mentioned in the Book of II Furnishings

WaltonAg18 said:

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This describes many of the posters in this thread. I pray that God brings light into your heart and He helps to guide you on His path for each of us.

[ARGUING WITH A GRADUATE OF THE PONTIFICAL UNIVERSITY OF SAINT THOMAS AQUINAS] “This doesn’t line up with what I remember from VeggieTales.” https://t.co/9BwBEANhNI

— one dozen rats at a keyboard (@PanasonicDX4500) April 13, 2026

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How does a snarky opinion from a partisan guy with the handle "one dozen rats at a keyboard" provide light to one's heart and help guide God's path for us?

If that's your intent, then leading with calling out posters on this thread who you know nothing about seems like a poor approach. It doesn't seem like this is coming from a genuine place of wanting others to follow Christ more closely. It just feels like more partisan bickering because it favors your side of the argument.

I knew they were getting money.

They are getting a firehose of money.

This is obviously the play, and when you understand that 65% of revenue from Catholic Charities comes from the government, you will understand why the US bishops want the Democrats back in power. https://t.co/qHW7rXB1wa

— Michael Sebastian (@HonorAndDaring) April 14, 2026

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I knew they were getting money.

They are getting a firehose of money.

This is obviously the play, and when you understand that 65% of revenue from Catholic Charities comes from the government, you will understand why the US bishops want the Democrats back in power. https://t.co/qHW7rXB1wa

— Michael Sebastian (@HonorAndDaring) April 14, 2026

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Im not going to rehash everything I posted in the last Catholic Church bashing thread, but the "holier that thou" rantings about Catholic Family Charities and tax money rings hollow when a little research shows that EVERY.SINGLE.MAJOR.PROTESTANT. RELIGION. took tax money for migrants and other community aid in one way or another

Just a quick shooting off the hip review on this thread has:

• The Pope should not express political opinion (ok for others)
• The Pope is a Marxist/Communist who wants open borders
• The Church has vast treasures it should sell
• The Church and its affiliates gets lots of tax money that it squanders and enriches itself with (The Baptists, Methodists, and Church of Christ never got a dime ….bwahahahaha)

All we need is an ignorant "Catholics worship Mary" rant to pretty much cover the bases for a weekly/monthly F16 Catholic Church bashing.


Some of you are slipping this far into a thread.

So the Pope met with David Axelrod last week. David Axelrod. Obama's campaign architect. A man who is not Catholic, has never met a pope before, and whose entire career has been engineering political narratives for the American left.

And then, by pure coincidence, the Pope… pic.twitter.com/K1BPqU1I1K

— Jesús Enrique Rosas (@Knesix) April 14, 2026

That's a bit of a strawman post, but the problem you have as a defender of the Catholic Church, is that it functions as a single large organization. It's difficult to assign the failings of a single monolithic organization to the other denominations that just don't operate the same way, because they just can't as separate independent units. That is not to say they don't have their own challenges, but they are structurally different just based on the unique top-down structure of the Catholic Church.

We can get bogged down in the theological differences, but just as an organizational fact of something that large in structure, the Catholic Church is just going to face legitimate criticisms that others won't.

I'm shocked a pope from Chicago would continue the globalist leftist propaganda as they try to get more government money. Even more shocked that the posters on here would run cover for it.

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Squadron7 said:

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I knew they were getting money.

They are getting a firehose of money.

This is obviously the play, and when you understand that 65% of revenue from Catholic Charities comes from the government, you will understand why the US bishops want the Democrats back in power. https://t.co/qHW7rXB1wa

— Michael Sebastian (@HonorAndDaring) April 14, 2026

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Im not going to rehash everything I posted in the last Catholic Church bashing thread, but the "holier that thou" rantings about Catholic Family Charities and tax money rings hollow when a little research shows that EVERY.SINGLE.MAJOR.PROTESTANT. RELIGION. took tax money for migrants and other community aid in one way or another

Just a quick shooting off the hip review on this thread has:

• The Pope should not express political opinion (ok for others)
• The Pope is a Marxist/Communist who wants open borders
• The Church has vast treasures it should sell
• The Church and its affiliates gets lots of tax money that it squanders and enriches itself with (The Baptists, Methodists, and Church of Christ never got a dime ….bwahahahaha)

All we need is an ignorant "Catholics worship Mary" rant to pretty much cover the bases for a weekly/monthly F16 Catholic Church bashing.


Some of you are slipping this far into a thread.

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I don't think any legit church should take Gov't tax money. As pointed out by others, 65% of your charity is gov't funded. That's just not a legit charity. That's an organized and too well funded political operation and should be stopped.

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But they'll all gladly hide dudes that diddle little boys. They don't have the moral authority on anything anymore

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It's not just the Catholic church doing that.

bonfarr said:

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So the Pope met with David Axelrod last week. David Axelrod. Obama's campaign architect. A man who is not Catholic, has never met a pope before, and whose entire career has been engineering political narratives for the American left.

And then, by pure coincidence, the Pope… pic.twitter.com/K1BPqU1I1K

— Jesús Enrique Rosas (@Knesix) April 14, 2026

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It's painfully obvious to anyone who's not an apologist.

The Democrats want more third world immigrants that will vote for free ****, defraud the tax payer, over burden social systems and bring about the collapse of America as a capitalist idea.

The RCC wants America to be a majority Catholic country. Since the vast majority of third world Latinos are Catholic, they're more than happy to partner with the DNC to help achieve each other's goals.

If America was getting overrun by Methodists, the Catholic Church would be building the wall for us.

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So the Pope met with David Axelrod last week. David Axelrod. Obama's campaign architect. A man who is not Catholic, has never met a pope before, and whose entire career has been engineering political narratives for the American left.

And then, by pure coincidence, the Pope… pic.twitter.com/K1BPqU1I1K

— Jesús Enrique Rosas (@Knesix) April 14, 2026

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Ouch

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WaltonAg18 said:

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johnnyblaze36 said:

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WaltonAg18 said:

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Anyone surprised about what Pope Leo is simply willfully ignorant. The Church has been very consistent about their themes and messaging for the last 1500 years. Everything that he has said corresponds to the true ideals of being pro-life, even for our enemies. How fortunate that the usual "but I go to church every Sunday it doesn't matter if I wish death on liberals and tyrants" posturing done here is finally facing some pushback.

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This is completely false. Have you been awake since 2015 and have you seen how the Catholic church has reacted to the topic of gay marriage? Just wanted to add that on as an item in which nearly every Democrat policy maker on Capitol Hill (start with Nancy) claims they are some great Catholic steward.

What do they do intead of your assertion? Abortion on demand. Gay/Trans for everyobdy. Let everyone and their mother and dog into our country unchecked, etc. And then have the audacity to criticize our country from their shiny, walled in, painted palace.

The Pope is not some infallible being, especially Leo and all of the ones before him. In fact, the dude is wrong about practically everything and should just stfu.

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Thank you for showing everyone that you are incapable of doing your own research. I'm going to say this as gently as I can since staff has my posts under a microscope at the moment.

The Church maintains to this day that proper marriages are lifelong, open to procreation, and heterosexual. You're likely thinking of what Pope Francis allowed, which was the blessing of those couples - the same way those who are not Catholic can receive a blessing at every single Catholic mass around the world.

Senile politicians who have received the Sacraments =/= the Catholic Church and its leadership. The same way that many so-called Catholic Republicans are more than happy to whisk their impregnated staffers to other states to murder the extramarital child. Politicians lie, more at seven.


The rest of your post is just nonsense, entirely based on fantasy. Unless, of course, you're capable of providing a shred of evidence.

You're correct in saying the Pope is not infallible in all things. Catholics do not believe he is 100% infallible. He also does not claim to be infallible unless he is speaking from the chair of Peter, whom you might remember from a little book that's usually stored on the back of a pew. I recommend you pick it up again and give it a once over.

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Ahh, yes, I remember where his chair was mentioned in the Book of II Furnishings

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Okay, that was funny.

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If America was getting overrun by Methodists, the Catholic Church would be building the wall for us.

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Ol_A said:

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If America was getting overrun by Methodists, the Catholic Church would be building the wall for us.

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Riveting response. So why do you think the Pope met with Axelrod? I'm sure David just wanted to chat about the Whitesox.

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As I always point out:

If Mexico and Latin America were LDS Mormons and coming across the border to push Catholics out of their churches, neighborhoods and schools, these hypocrites would be demanding a Border Wall of Babel reaching all the way to heaven

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If Mexico and Latin America were LDS Mormons and coming across the border the other hypocrites wouldn't be spending billions on border protection and we'd have welcoming stations rather than checkpoints.

There's a reason that basing arguments on hypothetical scenarios isn't allowed in court.

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That doesn't matter with the subject at hand. None of those other religions have a worldwide leader criticizing the POTUS for enforcing our immigration laws or using force to remove a terrorist sponsor regime who was killing their own people and threatening to nuke Israel.

Both my sons go to catholic schools, we give out time and $$ for charity at the local parish level. Catholic Charities itself is compromised, took taxpayer $$ to help facilitate and unconstitutional invasion of the country, and the current pope doesn't like it that we are choosing to enforce our immigration laws.

The pope and any bishops need to keep their mouth shut and focus on their faith and helping the poor, etc. where they are, and stop taking $$ from the US govt.

I still cannot fathom how Catholics, much less "Christs Vicar on Earth"; thought opening a Muslim prayer room anywhere was a good idea, much less in a Vatican library. Facilitating the worship of false God's just cannot be justified by any rational argument.

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B-1 83 said:

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Squadron7 said:

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I knew they were getting money.

They are getting a firehose of money.

This is obviously the play, and when you understand that 65% of revenue from Catholic Charities comes from the government, you will understand why the US bishops want the Democrats back in power. https://t.co/qHW7rXB1wa

— Michael Sebastian (@HonorAndDaring) April 14, 2026

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Im not going to rehash everything I posted in the last Catholic Church bashing thread, but the "holier that thou" rantings about Catholic Family Charities and tax money rings hollow when a little research shows that EVERY.SINGLE.MAJOR.PROTESTANT. RELIGION. took tax money for migrants and other community aid in one way or another

Just a quick shooting off the hip review on this thread has:

• The Pope should not express political opinion (ok for others)
• The Pope is a Marxist/Communist who wants open borders
• The Church has vast treasures it should sell
• The Church and its affiliates gets lots of tax money that it squanders and enriches itself with (The Baptists, Methodists, and Church of Christ never got a dime ….bwahahahaha)

All we need is an ignorant "Catholics worship Mary" rant to pretty much cover the bases for a weekly/monthly F16 Catholic Church bashing.


Some of you are slipping this far into a thread.

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I don't think any legit church should take Gov't tax money. As pointed out by others, 65% of your charity is gov't funded. That's just not a legit charity. That's an organized and too well funded political operation and should be stopped.

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As has been mentioned many times, the Church doesn't get any money. Their totally separate charities do, and whether it's Catholic Family Charities or Samaritan's Purse, I'd rather see them distribute charity where needed vs depending on the Federal, State, or local government to divvi it out as they see fit and provide oversight.

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Maroon Dawn said:

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As I always point out:

If Mexico and Latin America were LDS Mormons and coming across the border to push Catholics out of their churches, neighborhoods and schools, these hypocrites would be demanding a Border Wall of Babel reaching all the way to heaven

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If Mexico and Latin America were LDS Mormons and coming across the border the other hypocrites wouldn't be spending billions on border protection and we'd have welcoming stations rather than checkpoints.

There's a reason that basing arguments on hypothetical scenarios isn't allowed in court.

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If we were ok with even that scenario, we would have done it.

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That doesn't matter with the subject at hand. None of those other religions have a worldwide leader criticizing the POTUS for enforcing our immigration laws or using force to remove a terrorist sponsor regime who was killing their own people and threatening to nuke Israel.

Both my sons go to catholic schools, we give out time and $$ for charity at the local parish level. Catholic Charities itself is compromised, took taxpayer $$ to help facilitate and unconstitutional invasion of the country, and the current pope doesn't like it that we are choosing to enforce our immigration laws.

The pope and any bishops need to keep their mouth shut and focus on their faith and helping the poor, etc. where they are, and stop taking $$ from the US govt.

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It most certainly does. One can't go "Reeeeeeeeeeeee! Catholic charities got government money and spent it in a manner we don't like!" And not call out the others who spent it the exact same way.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I don't care if they are providing food and clothing to those in need around the world…….but don't helps them enter illegally.

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japantiger said:

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B-1 83 said:

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Squadron7 said:

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I knew they were getting money.

They are getting a firehose of money.

This is obviously the play, and when you understand that 65% of revenue from Catholic Charities comes from the government, you will understand why the US bishops want the Democrats back in power. https://t.co/qHW7rXB1wa

— Michael Sebastian (@HonorAndDaring) April 14, 2026

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Im not going to rehash everything I posted in the last Catholic Church bashing thread, but the "holier that thou" rantings about Catholic Family Charities and tax money rings hollow when a little research shows that EVERY.SINGLE.MAJOR.PROTESTANT. RELIGION. took tax money for migrants and other community aid in one way or another

Just a quick shooting off the hip review on this thread has:

• The Pope should not express political opinion (ok for others)
• The Pope is a Marxist/Communist who wants open borders
• The Church has vast treasures it should sell
• The Church and its affiliates gets lots of tax money that it squanders and enriches itself with (The Baptists, Methodists, and Church of Christ never got a dime ….bwahahahaha)

All we need is an ignorant "Catholics worship Mary" rant to pretty much cover the bases for a weekly/monthly F16 Catholic Church bashing.


Some of you are slipping this far into a thread.

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I don't think any legit church should take Gov't tax money. As pointed out by others, 65% of your charity is gov't funded. That's just not a legit charity. That's an organized and too well funded political operation and should be stopped.

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As has been mentioned many times, the Church doesn't get any money. Their totally separate charities do, and whether it's Catholic Family Charities or Samaritan's Purse, I'd rather see them distribute charity where needed vs depending on the Federal, State, or local government to divvi it out as they see fit and provide oversight.

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When the vast majority of a charities $$ come from the Swamp, it's not a legit charity. It is a well funded political op. This is like the Clinton Foundation.

My understanding is the local Bishop actually controls these charities, hires directors, etc...For example:

• The agency must use the name "Catholic" only with the bishop's explicit written consent (per canon law and a 2012 papal decree).
• The bishop supervises the agency's statutes, finances ("ecclesiastical goods"), and activities to ensure they conform to Catholic teaching.
• He can prohibit the agency from using the name "Catholic," withhold approval of leadership changes, or intervene if it accepts funding or pursues activities contrary to Church doctrine.
• In practice, many diocesan bishops serve as titular head or chair of the local board, appoint/remove trustees, or hold veto power over major decisions (standard structure for U.S. Catholic entities).

"the church doesn't get the money" is a distinction without a difference.

Ol_Ag_02 said:

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Gigem314 said:

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Ol_A said:

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If America was getting overrun by Methodists, the Catholic Church would be building the wall for us.

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Riveting response. So why do you think the Pope met with Axelrod? I'm sure David just wanted to chat about the Whitesox.

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I'm on your side, friend. As a former Methodist I just found the comment hilarious that was all.

I agree, I don't think Axelrod met with the Pope just to have a friendly chat or confession. There was definitely some strategic exchange of information there.

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Maroon Dawn said:

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As I always point out:

If Mexico and Latin America were LDS Mormons and coming across the border to push Catholics out of their churches, neighborhoods and schools, these hypocrites would be demanding a Border Wall of Babel reaching all the way to heaven

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If Mexico and Latin America were LDS Mormons and coming across the border the other hypocrites wouldn't be spending billions on border protection and we'd have welcoming stations rather than checkpoints.

There's a reason that basing arguments on hypothetical scenarios isn't allowed in court.

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This is complete garbage. Illegal is illegal and I think you'll find that the vast majority who believe we should enforce our immigration laws would definitely not support that.

So, you have a different opinion. Cool.

bonfarr said:

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So the Pope met with David Axelrod last week. David Axelrod. Obama's campaign architect. A man who is not Catholic, has never met a pope before, and whose entire career has been engineering political narratives for the American left.

And then, by pure coincidence, the Pope… pic.twitter.com/K1BPqU1I1K

— Jesús Enrique Rosas (@Knesix) April 14, 2026

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I remember when critics piled on the pope for meeting with Democrat IL Gov. JB Pritzker - only to have egg on their faces when they learned the pope used that time to condemn assisted suicide and urge Pritzker to veto the measure.

I don't know what the pope and Axelrod… https://t.co/UA6bMwpYSb

— Christine Niles (@ChristineNiles1) April 15, 2026

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I remember when critics piled on the pope for meeting with Democrat IL Gov. JB Pritzker - only to have egg on their faces when they learned the pope used that time to condemn assisted suicide and urge Pritzker to veto the measure.

I don't know what the pope and Axelrod discussed - no one does - but I'll give the pope the benefit of the doubt that he didn't use the meeting to scheme about how to infiltrate the Church with leftist ideology.

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Especially since Axelrod is Jewish.

Yeah just merely a coincidence the Pope and Bishops attacked Trump, Israel, etc immediately after the meeting?

Mmkay

This episode of Pints with Aquinas is very instructive on how the Catholic changed in the 70's. My First Communion was in the mid 70's and watching this so much more of the changes have been made clear by Matt Fradd interview with Fr. John A. Perricone:



If you are pressed for time go to 1:29:27 for comments on Pope Leo XIV and what to do as Catholics.

boulderaggie said:

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Especially since Axelrod is Jewish.

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A non-Catholic pol who hasn't been active in American politics since 2012, but coincidentally is an Barack operative and an entrenched member of the corrupt Chicago political machine that wants open borders and socialism.

Sure, sure. Like I said. I'm sure Axelrod flew over there to talk about baseball and this has absolutely nothing to do with Obama and his continuing efforts at running a shadow government.

“No one has said the United States should have open borders, I think every country has a right to determine who enters their country” ~Pope Leo https://t.co/FE0czMuXMd

— Pennsylvania King ✝️ (@PA_Imperator) April 11, 2026

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Maybe keep politics out of religion. Wouldn't that be nice

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Something about salt losing its flavor. Ain't happening.

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Yeah just merely a coincidence the Pope and Bishops attacked Trump, Israel, etc immediately after the meeting?

Mmkay

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Wait, how did the Pope and Bishops attack Trump and Israel?

A good article:

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The Pope knows perfectly well that the deranged Iranian theocracy is violently hostile to Christianity and that the fiercely pursued ambition of that regime to arm militant Islam with atomic weapons capable of being fired at the principal European cities, including Rome, is a menace to all mankind, and certainly to everything traditional to Christianity. He had absolutely no business identifying the attitude of the Iranian government as a pacifistic one in relationship to the United States.

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https://brusselssignal.eu/2026/04/us-and-catholic-church-must-maintain-a-united-front-against-the-antichrist-of-our-time/