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Centerpole90
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I know we love live updates on the OB and I don't think Aggie118 will mind me sharing:

Aggie188 had gone full FSGuide on the perp and has a lot of good info confirming his identity. He shared that with me and I poked around online myself one afternoon and evening and using public information (addresses associated with that identity and others related to him) and my 956 spider senses - we identified a couple spots around that we thought his machine might be. One of those addresses is listed as a primary residence, so that was priority one. However, it's a vacant lot, and it's listed as the primary residence for other individuals as well; so it reeked of a fake association.

Yesterday, I struck out did some scouting - unfortunately, I did not find the machine. At the address listed as a residence I did find his trailer - the same one he hauled the skid steer on. It was parked on the edge of the street, but no truck, and no other equipment of any type around. So that address is not totally phony - he is connected to it. The other addresses associated with his name produced no results. I did not see the perp's pickup, the skid steer, or a place to hide it at any of those addresses. They are all in the same development.

Talking with Aggie118 and him replaying what he learned from LE's conversation with the perp, we think it is staked out somewhere else. As we gather more clues I'll keep snooping.

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Centerpole90 said:

I know we love live updates on the OB and I don't think Aggie118 will mind me sharing:

Aggie188 had gone full FSGuide on the perp and has a lot of good info confirming his identity. He shared that with me and I poked around online myself one afternoon and evening and using public information (addresses associated with that identity and others related to him) and my 956 spider senses - we identified a couple spots around that we thought his machine might be. One of those addresses is listed as a primary residence, so that was priority one. However, it's a vacant lot, and it's listed as the primary residence for other individuals as well; so it reeked of a fake association.

Yesterday, I struck out did some scouting - unfortunately, I did not find the machine. At the address listed as a residence I did find his trailer - the same one he hauled the skid steer on. It was parked on the edge of the street, but no truck, and no other equipment of any type around. So that address is not totally phony - he is connected to it. The other addresses associated with his name produced no results. I did not see the perp's pickup, the skid steer, or a place to hide it at any of those addresses. They are all in the same development.

Talking with Aggie118 and him replaying what he learned from LE's conversation with the perp, we think it is staked out somewhere else. As we gather more clues I'll keep snooping.




Sounds like someone should put a tracker on that trailer and see if they move it again.
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Nagler said:

Centerpole90 said:

I know we love live updates on the OB and I don't think Aggie118 will mind me sharing:

Aggie188 had gone full FSGuide on the perp and has a lot of good info confirming his identity. He shared that with me and I poked around online myself one afternoon and evening and using public information (addresses associated with that identity and others related to him) and my 956 spider senses - we identified a couple spots around that we thought his machine might be. One of those addresses is listed as a primary residence, so that was priority one. However, it's a vacant lot, and it's listed as the primary residence for other individuals as well; so it reeked of a fake association.

Yesterday, I struck out did some scouting - unfortunately, I did not find the machine. At the address listed as a residence I did find his trailer - the same one he hauled the skid steer on. It was parked on the edge of the street, but no truck, and no other equipment of any type around. So that address is not totally phony - he is connected to it. The other addresses associated with his name produced no results. I did not see the perp's pickup, the skid steer, or a place to hide it at any of those addresses. They are all in the same development.

Talking with Aggie118 and him replaying what he learned from LE's conversation with the perp, we think it is staked out somewhere else. As we gather more clues I'll keep snooping.




Sounds like someone should put a tracker on that trailer and see if they move it again.



It might end up at Pollos Hermanos
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Nagler said:

Centerpole90 said:

I know we love live updates on the OB and I don't think Aggie118 will mind me sharing:

Aggie188 had gone full FSGuide on the perp and has a lot of good info confirming his identity. He shared that with me and I poked around online myself one afternoon and evening and using public information (addresses associated with that identity and others related to him) and my 956 spider senses - we identified a couple spots around that we thought his machine might be. One of those addresses is listed as a primary residence, so that was priority one. However, it's a vacant lot, and it's listed as the primary residence for other individuals as well; so it reeked of a fake association.

Yesterday, I struck out did some scouting - unfortunately, I did not find the machine. At the address listed as a residence I did find his trailer - the same one he hauled the skid steer on. It was parked on the edge of the street, but no truck, and no other equipment of any type around. So that address is not totally phony - he is connected to it. The other addresses associated with his name produced no results. I did not see the perp's pickup, the skid steer, or a place to hide it at any of those addresses. They are all in the same development.

Talking with Aggie118 and him replaying what he learned from LE's conversation with the perp, we think it is staked out somewhere else. As we gather more clues I'll keep snooping.




Sounds like someone should put a tracker on pickup that trailer and see if they move it again take it somewhere safe until they come up with Aggie118's machine.

FIFY

Just take the trailer somewhere safe and let him know he can come and get it when he finishes delivering the machine to the customer.
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Or slap a boot on it that with a note that sats "**** you. Pay me."
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Centerpole90 said:

I know we love live updates on the OB and I don't think Aggie118 will mind me sharing:

Aggie188 had gone full FSGuide on the perp and has a lot of good info confirming his identity. He shared that with me and I poked around online myself one afternoon and evening and using public information (addresses associated with that identity and others related to him) and my 956 spider senses - we identified a couple spots around that we thought his machine might be. One of those addresses is listed as a primary residence, so that was priority one. However, it's a vacant lot, and it's listed as the primary residence for other individuals as well; so it reeked of a fake association.

Yesterday, I struck out did some scouting - unfortunately, I did not find the machine. At the address listed as a residence I did find his trailer - the same one he hauled the skid steer on. It was parked on the edge of the street, but no truck, and no other equipment of any type around. So that address is not totally phony - he is connected to it. The other addresses associated with his name produced no results. I did not see the perp's pickup, the skid steer, or a place to hide it at any of those addresses. They are all in the same development.

Talking with Aggie118 and him replaying what he learned from LE's conversation with the perp, we think it is staked out somewhere else. As we gather more clues I'll keep snooping.




Staked out waiting to make sure no telematics gives away it location. Once comfortable, he will go get it.

Maybe tracking the trailer is. Good option for LE or PI to do. If they actually care to solve/stop a crime.
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Catag94 said:

Centerpole90 said:

I know we love live updates on the OB and I don't think Aggie118 will mind me sharing:

Aggie188 had gone full FSGuide on the perp and has a lot of good info confirming his identity. He shared that with me and I poked around online myself one afternoon and evening and using public information (addresses associated with that identity and others related to him) and my 956 spider senses - we identified a couple spots around that we thought his machine might be. One of those addresses is listed as a primary residence, so that was priority one. However, it's a vacant lot, and it's listed as the primary residence for other individuals as well; so it reeked of a fake association.

Yesterday, I struck out did some scouting - unfortunately, I did not find the machine. At the address listed as a residence I did find his trailer - the same one he hauled the skid steer on. It was parked on the edge of the street, but no truck, and no other equipment of any type around. So that address is not totally phony - he is connected to it. The other addresses associated with his name produced no results. I did not see the perp's pickup, the skid steer, or a place to hide it at any of those addresses. They are all in the same development.

Talking with Aggie118 and him replaying what he learned from LE's conversation with the perp, we think it is staked out somewhere else. As we gather more clues I'll keep snooping.




Staked out waiting to make sure no telematics gives away it location. Once comfortable, he will go get it.

Maybe tracking the trailer is. Good option for LE or PI to do. If they actually care to solve/stop a crime.


Agree with you. I don't know the legality of tracking his trailer on my end and if he finds it I would be worried about retaliation of some sort.

Unfortunately it does not appear that law enforcement has any interest in helping me out or solving this case, at least locally down there. They are hiding behind the whole "it's a civil issue" barrier.
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What an absolutely frustrating read. I won't post what should happen to the perp.

Best of luck to you, OP.
Catag94
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Reach out to me next time you need something hauled. I'm in north Texas and in the equipment business. I may be able to help with known dependable people.
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Aggie118 said:

Catag94 said:

Centerpole90 said:

I know we love live updates on the OB and I don't think Aggie118 will mind me sharing:

Aggie188 had gone full FSGuide on the perp and has a lot of good info confirming his identity. He shared that with me and I poked around online myself one afternoon and evening and using public information (addresses associated with that identity and others related to him) and my 956 spider senses - we identified a couple spots around that we thought his machine might be. One of those addresses is listed as a primary residence, so that was priority one. However, it's a vacant lot, and it's listed as the primary residence for other individuals as well; so it reeked of a fake association.

Yesterday, I struck out did some scouting - unfortunately, I did not find the machine. At the address listed as a residence I did find his trailer - the same one he hauled the skid steer on. It was parked on the edge of the street, but no truck, and no other equipment of any type around. So that address is not totally phony - he is connected to it. The other addresses associated with his name produced no results. I did not see the perp's pickup, the skid steer, or a place to hide it at any of those addresses. They are all in the same development.

Talking with Aggie118 and him replaying what he learned from LE's conversation with the perp, we think it is staked out somewhere else. As we gather more clues I'll keep snooping.




Staked out waiting to make sure no telematics gives away it location. Once comfortable, he will go get it.

Maybe tracking the trailer is. Good option for LE or PI to do. If they actually care to solve/stop a crime.


Agree with you. I don't know the legality of tracking his trailer on my end and if he finds it I would be worried about retaliation of some sort.

Unfortunately it does not appear that law enforcement has any interest in helping me out or solving this case, at least locally down there. They are hiding behind the whole "it's a civil issue" barrier.

Sounds like local law enforcement needs a visit from the rangers. Theft of a nearly $50k piece of equipment is not a "civil issue". It is felony theft and their job to investigate and prosecute it.
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So you have a picture of it on the trailer and I assume you now have a picture of the trailer empty. I wonder if that would cause the local law enforcement to change their tune about it being a civil matter. Add to that the fact that the trailer is now near the border instead of north Texas.

Did the Rangers respond? I would go to my elected officials next amd see who they could get to help cooperate.

If I was the broker I would buy a smartphone or other device to stash on the trailer that wouldn't alert like an airtag does.
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91AggieLawyer said:

Are all 6 of the folks the deputy told you about in Texas? If not, this is now a federal issue. Also, if payment was made via other means than cash, you have potential wire fraud -- again, federal.

It's federal wire fraud by use of the electronic communication device to perpetuate the scheme.

Getting the appropriate federal agency to be interested, especially since they're busy enforcing Title 8, is an issue.
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Aggie118 said:


Agree with you. I don't know the legality of tracking his trailer on my end and if he finds it I would be worried about retaliation of some sort.

Unfortunately it does not appear that law enforcement has any interest in helping me out or solving this case, at least locally down there. They are hiding behind the whole "it's a civil issue" barrier.

Without looking up the Texas statutes, I doubt their is anything illegal about tracking the trailer. If there's an issue, it wold be along the anti-stalker lines.

Unfortunately, local LE usually doesn't have the resources, often doesn't have the expertise and frequently the drive to investigate this "small" of a case. The overall criminal organization (the two brothers and any others) is a nice target, but when criminals cross jurisdictional lines, they have pretty much given themselves a free pass.

IMO, DPS would be who I would contact, as this is both a statewide and transportation criminal organization.

You've done great work on your follow through and research. The other issue LE has is that once a victim is made whole by their insurance, they have no interest in helping LE. Even when you have a cop who's willing to work, I guarantee he's wasted lots of hours on crimes that end up not being prosecuted.


edit to add: maybe, if these are resulting in a bunch of insurance claims, these guys might be able to help?
https://www.nicb.org/
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The OP called me yesterday afternoon. We are working on a few things in the background. More to come!

Thanks Centerpole90 for making the connection.
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I am still scratching my head why the cops say this is civil and not criminal. There is property missing that is unaccounted for, and everything points to one person stealing it.
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118:

I spoke with CP yesterday about this bad situation. I reached out to a couple of Ag attorneys I know and one was tied way up with family and work stuff and the other didn't feel he could be of much help.

CP explained some of the situation to me, the butthole that caused this is located not far from my old stomping grounds. I might have an idea/suggestion for you if you would like to hear it.

If you are comfortable with it, email me at ttxmess at yahoo.com and we can get in touch via phone if you would like. CP is fine folks and contrary to what you are experiencing, if you can get to the right folks in the RGV you will get some help. Getting to the folks is the issue.

ETA, NM CP shared your contact info with me. If you get a call or text from 956 360 number that is me.
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Update:

Thanks again to Centerpole90, Gentrysmill, and RGV Ag, all three of yall have been very helpful and going above and beyond connecting me with the right folks.

As of now we have several different law enforcement agencies in the know including DPS and the Texas Rangers. They have the information so hopefully there is something they can do to apply pressure or move things along.

Got official word yesterday that the driver's insurance is denying the claim due to non-payment by the driver so the policy is void (shocker), and they also said it would not have been covered anyways because they classify it as "non-delivery" and not theft since it was the driver who stole it and not a third party. The broker is now going through their own insurance, which I assume will also be denied.

At this point the bond/insurance route is not looking promising. I think my best bet is the broker figuring out how to get the machine back from the driver with payment or law enforcement intervention.

Thanks to all who have been chiming in. I really appreciate everyone's insight.
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Wow. Thieves suck. Such a pain in the arse.
Aggie118
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shalackin said:

Wow. Thieves suck. Such a pain in the arse.


Yes. I think the most frustrating part is that we know exactly who this guy is and exactly the area that he is operating in to include the yard that the trailer is at that he used to steal it.

Yet, there has been no hands on moves made by law-enforcement to even go ask the guy (who was just arrested 12/10/25 for theft, and is on probation) questions or go in person to check it out. He has now had my machine for 20 days and has not given the location or any verification that it is ok.

I'm hopeful that the DPS or Texas Ranger involvement may light more of a fire.
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At this point, even if they truly can't do anything about it because of the BS civil dispute framing, I would feel better if law-enforcement were to go talk to him about it and have him tell them the same story that way there's at least documentation of him admitting to still having it while this gets sorted out.

I feel like if that were to happen then he really can't get rid of it because he knows he's now on law enforcement radar with this. At least I would know I'm not out the machine and money in the long run.
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To anyone that has more knowledge on law-enforcement dealings than me, should I be able to call the local police department or anybody and have them at least go do a welfare check on my property? since I have no verification of its existence or location for 20 days.
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If the driver is on probation, can't the probation officer get involved?

This whole thing is the physical equipment version of ransomware.
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Aggie118 said:

To anyone that has more knowledge on law-enforcement dealings than me, should I be able to call the local police department or anybody and have them at least go do a welfare check on my property? since I have no verification of its existence or location for 20 days.


Welfare checks are for people, not objects. I don't know if you would be able to convince them to send an officer over there to look at a piece of machinery. Maybe if it's a slow day for them?
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FSGuide said:

Aggie118 said:

To anyone that has more knowledge on law-enforcement dealings than me, should I be able to call the local police department or anybody and have them at least go do a welfare check on my property? since I have no verification of its existence or location for 20 days.


Welfare checks are for people, not objects. I don't know if you would be able to convince them to send an officer over there to look at a piece of machinery. Maybe if it's a slow day for them?


Maybe so. I will say it is reported as stolen so that may make it more interesting to them vs just a piece of equipment that's being held in dispute.
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If you know exactly who this guy is, is there any chance ICE should check into his status and perhaps make a visit?

ETA: when they locate a person of interest to them and find criminal activity connected, it usually benefits their cause and may, in this case benefit yours.
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Catag94 said:

If you know exactly who this guy is, is there any chance ICE should check into his status and perhaps make a visit?

ETA: when they locate a person of interest to them and find criminal activity connected, it usually benefits there cause and may, in this case benefit yours.


Getting the feds involved seems like a good way to get all your crap tied up in some red tape spaghetti bowl.
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At least you know where it is and potentially be able to eventually recover it.
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If he is working a project with the equipment can you file a lien on that project? I believe equipment rental agencies have this authority when a non paying customer is still using their equipment. He will get paused from working the job and no payment will be issued. It may be that you also can get payment direct from the contractor/project owner to remove the lien
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Catag94 said:

At least you know where it is and potentially be able to eventually recover it.


I don't disagree. Just thinking out loud. Id be concerned they would safely keep the equipment next to that F35.
 
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