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Someone mentioned a probation officer. Have you considered that approach?
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BlueMiles said:

Someone mentioned a probation officer. Have you considered that approach?

Yes - it appears he is on 5 years of probation. I guess I figured I would let the law enforcement who are on this shake that tree, but I suppose I could as well.
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Wanted to make sure somebody did! Might be better coming from law enforcement so I hope they will follow up on it.
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Aggie118 said:

BlueMiles said:

Someone mentioned a probation officer. Have you considered that approach?

Yes - it appears he is on 5 years of probation. I guess I figured I would let the law enforcement who are on this shake that tree, but I suppose I could as well.

I can tell you that law enforcement doesn't give a rat's ass about someone violating the terms of their probation. We have a local pedophile who set up an office within 500 feet of a children's dance studio (which was in violation of his probation terms) and the local cops did nothing. I notified his probation officer and they shut him down within a week.

Contact the adult supervision office that is in charge of him and let them know what is happening.
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Thanks for mentioning this.
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I would follow up with another demand letter to the broker. This has not gone cold … things are happening. Google or AI dunning process … that would be my recco with the broker for the time being.
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What about flying a drone over the yard to see if your machine is there? Can law enforcement take action if they can see it with a drone? Or does it have to be visible from the ground?
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I see now how law enforcement is being evasive about making this a criminal issue. Their rationale is the driver hasn't stolen your equipment. He has just refused to provide the transportation service. That makes it civil.

There has to be a way to go after guy that involves the law. He is in possession of something that doesn't belong to him
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Burdizzo said:

I see now how law enforcement is being evasive about making this a criminal issue. Their rationale is the driver hasn't stolen your equipment. He has just refused to provide the transportation service. That makes it civil.

There has to be a way to go after guy that involves the law. He is in possession of something that doesn't belong to him

If he is refusing to provide the transportation service, then there is no reason he can't tell them where it is and let them send somebody else to pick it up. There is a mechanism for him to legally file a lien against the machine if he thinks he is entitled to different payment. He hasn't done that. This is no longer a civil matter. The driver committed wire fraud by taking the load and claiming to be somebody he is not. He has committed theft by taking the equipment to south Texas instead of the panhandle and unloading it to an unknown location. It is a criminal case at this point and should be treated as such by all LEO, including the locals in the valley that are probably getting paid to ignore it.
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Apparently a constable talked to the suspect, the constables misunderstood that the skid steer was stolen, not the trailer, so they went and questioned him about the trailer that was parked there and ran the plates and it didn't come up stolen so they called me to get clarification. Now that they know it's the skid steer that is stolen, hopefully that constable goes back and questions him about the machine.

I also just talked to my county investigator and they got a photo of him with the trailer in the machine on January 3 taking the machine northbound to McAllen, Texas. So the good news is that the machine is still out there most likely and not in Mexico.

The investigator up here is also going to be able to write a warrant so they can arrest this guy down there.
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Aggie118 said:

Apparently a constable talked to the suspect, the constables misunderstood that the skid steer was stolen, not the trailer, so they went and questioned him about the trailer that was parked there and ran the plates and it didn't come up stolen

You're getting the runaround, big time.
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Mega Lops said:

Aggie118 said:

Apparently a constable talked to the suspect, the constables misunderstood that the skid steer was stolen, not the trailer, so they went and questioned him about the trailer that was parked there and ran the plates and it didn't come up stolen

You're getting the runaround, big time.



I don't think so. Seemed like an honest mistake. He was actually calling me to see if I had the VIN to the trailer to give them so they could run it to see if maybe he changed plates. I am hopeful that now we will get a warrant issued and will nab him and get the machine back.
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That is a really poor and unlearned take chief. There are 4 different, 5 if you include Grayson County, LEO agencies involved at this time. The assbag that did this doesn't have a warrant out for him, at least not yet, and local LEO, including the Rangers, are trying to button this up based on nothing but friendly, and basically 3rd party, requests. Without knowing for sure exactly what happend or the exact circumstances, i.e. hearsay that took place over 400 miles away, yet they are working on it.

Texas today, no matter what part, ain't the old west any longer. The presumption of innocence is a bitter, big, biscuit, eating beatch sometimes. But one that many victims have to suffer through. Hopefully justice will prevail and I know the dudes working on this will do the right thing if they can.

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Update:

The constables have confirmed that this guy has been trying to sell it to local rental yards for $7,500 ($45,000 machine). They are trying to track him/the machine down and letting the dealers/rental yards in the area know that that machine and serial number are stolen.
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Aggie118 said:

Update:

The constables have confirmed that this guy has been trying to sell it to local rental yards for $7,500 ($45,000 machine). They are trying to track him/the machine down and letting the dealers/rental yards in the area know that that machine and serial number are stolen.


They obviously knew it was stolen if they didn't jump on that. Hopefully we get a happy ending here.
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Aggie118 said:

Update:

The constables have confirmed that this guy has been trying to sell it to local rental yards for $7,500 ($45,000 machine). They are trying to track him/the machine down and letting the dealers/rental yards in the area know that that machine and serial number are stolen.


They obviously knew it was stolen if they didn't jump on that. Hopefully we get a happy ending here.
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Been following this since the beginning. Feels like I'm following a detective show.
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Sea Speed said:

Aggie118 said:

Update:

The constables have confirmed that this guy has been trying to sell it to local rental yards for $7,500 ($45,000 machine). They are trying to track him/the machine down and letting the dealers/rental yards in the area know that that machine and serial number are stolen.


They obviously knew it was stolen if they didn't jump on that. Hopefully we get a happy ending here.

Yes, he is a complete moron for trying to sell it for $7,500.

On one hand I am hopeful because he does not appear to have any theft ring connections to disappear the machine in Mexico over night if he is going around to local dealers/rental places, I just hope we are not too late and he found a buyer. Seems like LE could orchestrate a sting with one of the rental places or dealers to try and catch him selling it.

Either way I would think he is toast, but I want my machine back.
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Aggie118 said:

Sea Speed said:

Aggie118 said:

Update:

The constables have confirmed that this guy has been trying to sell it to local rental yards for $7,500 ($45,000 machine). They are trying to track him/the machine down and letting the dealers/rental yards in the area know that that machine and serial number are stolen.


They obviously knew it was stolen if they didn't jump on that. Hopefully we get a happy ending here.

Yes, he is a complete moron for trying to sell it for $7,500.

On one hand I am hopeful because he does not appear to have any theft ring connections to disappear the machine in Mexico over night if he is going around to local dealers/rental places, I just hope we are not too late and he found a buyer. Seems like LE could orchestrate a sting with one of the rental places or dealers to try and catch him selling it.

Either way I would think he is toast, but I want my machine back.

Taking it across the border may have been his backup plan if he couldn't get you to pay him. Getting it into the database as stolen has scuttled that plan because it will get flagged if he tries to move it across. He probably knows he isn't getting paid by you now that it is flagged stolen and just wants to get whatever he can from somebody who isn't too worried about the status.
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I hate this for the OP but it seems we are closing in. I say we because we are all invested!
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txags92 said:

Aggie118 said:

Sea Speed said:

Aggie118 said:

Update:

The constables have confirmed that this guy has been trying to sell it to local rental yards for $7,500 ($45,000 machine). They are trying to track him/the machine down and letting the dealers/rental yards in the area know that that machine and serial number are stolen.


They obviously knew it was stolen if they didn't jump on that. Hopefully we get a happy ending here.

Yes, he is a complete moron for trying to sell it for $7,500.

On one hand I am hopeful because he does not appear to have any theft ring connections to disappear the machine in Mexico over night if he is going around to local dealers/rental places, I just hope we are not too late and he found a buyer. Seems like LE could orchestrate a sting with one of the rental places or dealers to try and catch him selling it.

Either way I would think he is toast, but I want my machine back.

Taking it across the border may have been his backup plan if he couldn't get you to pay him. Getting it into the database as stolen has scuttled that plan because it will get flagged if he tries to move it across. He probably knows he isn't getting paid by you now that it is flagged stolen and just wants to get whatever he can from somebody who isn't too worried about the status.


You may be right about that. I am thankful that we have law-enforcement that still take their job seriously and know theft when they see it. The deputy who came to take my statement, spent like four hours with me and multiple phone calls with the thief which just incriminated himself further on a recorded line. Hopefully the machine stays in the US and even if he has sold it, they can take his phone and grab everything off of it to find out where it was sold.


The detective said if they can get his phone that that will be very helpful and a treasure trove of information. I assume that even if he tries to delete everything that they can still retrieve it all.
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Is he dead yet?
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I'd like to see a sting operation now. LEO get an undercover to contact him saying one of the local rent store he tried to sell I to shared the info. He soups tell the thief want ms to buy it if he still has it but wants to see it and operate it first. Confirms serial number, voila! Back up arrest the dude machine is recovered.
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You can not imagine how hard it is to resist the urge to grab a 6pack of beer, go get RGVAg in the truck with me, and try to get this pendejo on the phone and arrange a viewing.

Unfortunately, that would only mess up the process.
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Centerpole90 said:

You can not imagine how hard it is to resist the urge to grab a 6pack of beer, go get RGVAg in the truck with me, and try to get this pendejo on the phone and arrange a viewing.

Unfortunately, that would only mess up the process.

I'd be tempted to use the bucket to dig a hole for him if I went with you…
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This, my friends, is shaping up to be one of the greatest threads in the history of the OB. It's right up there with the Doss Lease and the Big Ben Toolbox posts.
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Aggie118 said:

Update:

The constables have confirmed that this guy has been trying to sell it to local rental yards for $7,500 ($45,000 machine). They are trying to track him/the machine down and letting the dealers/rental yards in the area know that that machine and serial number are stolen.

Even if there were any doubt as to the criminal vs civil case, this confirms it is just straight up theft.
The fact that he kept trying to get more money from you, used to be "extortion" but it was rolled up under the general theft charge.
for reference...
https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/?tab=1&code=PE&chapter=PE.31&artSec=
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Aggie118 said:


You may be right about that. I am thankful that we have law-enforcement that still take their job seriously and know theft when they see it. The deputy who came to take my statement, spent like four hours with me and multiple phone calls with the thief which just incriminated himself further on a recorded line. Hopefully the machine stays in the US and even if he has sold it, they can take his phone and grab everything off of it to find out where it was sold.


The detective said if they can get his phone that that will be very helpful and a treasure trove of information. I assume that even if he tries to delete everything that they can still retrieve it all.

Ensure the detective knows that you know the phone number.

Any other social media you have dug up yourself might be good too.
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Centerpole90 said:

You can not imagine how hard it is to resist the urge to grab a 6pack of beer, go get RGVAg in the truck with me, and try to get this pendejo on the phone and arrange a viewing.

Unfortunately, that would only mess up the process.

'Nombre, it would have to be a 12 pack at least and include one of those shrimp and botanero trays from one of those primo drive thru's in Willacy County. Sadly I am outta pocket locally or I would like to do some scouting on this deal.
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The panhandle, the Valley, the Texas Rangers, theives, trailers, and brokers.

This is modern-day McMurtry in a TexAgs thread.

I hope it has a happy ending! I'm hopeful for the OP. TexAgs network is wild.
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StoneCold99 said:

The panhandle, the Valley, the Texas Rangers, theives, trailers, and brokers.

This is modern-day McMurtry in a TexAgs thread.

I hope it has a happy ending! I'm hopeful for the OP. TexAgs network is wild.


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The panhandle, the Valley, the Texas Rangers, theives, trailers, and brokers.

This is modern-day McMurtry in a TexAgs thread.

I hope it has a happy ending! I'm hopeful for the OP. TexAgs network is wild.

Go the Anton Chigurh route and its more Cormac McCarthy.
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I don't know how I avoided this thread for so long, but I just read it all, and I'm completely invested now.
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I have followed since it was posted but have nothing to add. So just lurking and hoping for a great final result
 
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