gougler08 said:It's pretty obvious (and was before Pogba was announced as not starting) that Mourinho would park the bus, it's what he always does in a big away match. Snoozer for us neutralsryan_m said:
Can we all stop pretending like we know more than the multiple time champions league winning coach? FFS let the gaffer do his job and have faith
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Sevilla is not a big away match, how the hell would we play against PSG or Real of he plays like this against small teams. This is Jose being a ****ing ***** on all fronts. Dire football.gougler08 said:gougler08 said:It's pretty obvious (and was before Pogba was announced as not starting) that Mourinho would park the bus, it's what he always does in a big away match. Snoozer for us neutralsryan_m said:
Can we all stop pretending like we know more than the multiple time champions league winning coach? FFS let the gaffer do his job and have faith
And only off by 3% on the possession prediction.
I'm all for having an opinion and voicing concerns, but I'm getting tired of all the pundits, fan pages, so called "experts" dogging Mou for the recent slump in form. Especially because none of this talk was happening 3 weeks ago when we were winning.
I applaud Jose for getting a result in a difficult environment with a less than stellar squad. Our back line is mediocre save Valencia, and no link up play between midfield and forward. But Jose knows what he's doing, so I have faith.
If we don't play well at Old Trafford in the reverse fixture, then I think we'll have something to worry about...
I applaud Jose for getting a result in a difficult environment with a less than stellar squad. Our back line is mediocre save Valencia, and no link up play between midfield and forward. But Jose knows what he's doing, so I have faith.
If we don't play well at Old Trafford in the reverse fixture, then I think we'll have something to worry about...
You just contradicted yourself, how does Jose know what he is doing when there is no link up play between the midfield and the forwards? How many windows has Jose had to fix this? Jose has one tactic, sit back and hoof the ball, so in his mind there is no need for a midfield.ryan_m said:
I'm all for having an opinion and voicing concerns, but I'm getting tired of all the pundits, fan pages, so called "experts" dogging Mou for the recent slump in form. Especially because none of this talk was happening 3 weeks ago when we were winning.
I applaud Jose for getting a result in a difficult environment with a less than stellar squad. Our back line is mediocre save Valencia, and no link up play between midfield and forward. But Jose knows what he's doing, so I have faith.
If we don't play well at Old Trafford in the reverse fixture, then I think we'll have something to worry about...
Many reasons why link up is lagging: untalented players, difficult away atmosphere, or even bad managing - but we got a result. Like I said, if there is no link up at home in a couple weeks, then there may be a problem with Jose.datrixstunna said:You just contradicted yourself, how does Jose know what he is doing when there is no link up play between the midfield and the forwards? How many windows has Jose had to fix this? Jose has one tactic, sit back and hoof the ball, so in his mind there is no need for a midfield.ryan_m said:
I'm all for having an opinion and voicing concerns, but I'm getting tired of all the pundits, fan pages, so called "experts" dogging Mou for the recent slump in form. Especially because none of this talk was happening 3 weeks ago when we were winning.
I applaud Jose for getting a result in a difficult environment with a less than stellar squad. Our back line is mediocre save Valencia, and no link up play between midfield and forward. But Jose knows what he's doing, so I have faith.
If we don't play well at Old Trafford in the reverse fixture, then I think we'll have something to worry about...
But please, tell us more about how much more knowledge you have than our world class manager.
Man what I would give to have that brick wall in goal.
Alexis, Mata, Pogba, Martial, Rashford, Matic? There is plenty of talent, wise one!Quote:
untalented players,
That ignore feature sure is handy.
As a mere, High School soccer coach, I approve of being defensive on the road and playing for the counter attack; especially against strong opposition on the road.
Mourinho is a hell of a better coach than me, and he's won championships, when many of us hated him as an opposing coach.
Trust the process
Mourinho is a hell of a better coach than me, and he's won championships, when many of us hated him as an opposing coach.
Trust the process
Yea, but the process sucks
Game over. United isn't going to score with **** tactics.
Nice Combo play and Lukaku with the finish!
We are level
We are level
Where did team come from? And why can't they play this positive all the time?
I know he didn't score, but that was a hell of a run from Lukaku
Good 2nd half, nice win!
GGMU!
You wanna watch exciting football? Support Liverpool. You wanna win games and trophies? Support our red devils! Come on United!
ryan_m said:
You wanna watch exciting football? Support Liverpool. You wanna win games and trophies? Support our red devils! Come on United!
That's is the stupidest thing I have read. United we're built on exciting AND winning football.
ryan_m said:
You wanna watch exciting football? Support Liverpool. You wanna win games and trophies? Support our red devils! Come on United!
Odds are that you both will win the same amount of trophies this season...0
datrixstunna said:ryan_m said:
You wanna watch exciting football? Support Liverpool. You wanna win games and trophies? Support our red devils! Come on United!
That's is the stupidest thing I have read. United we're built on exciting AND winning football.
Sorry to be offensive, but since you're calling him out: this is stupid too. Calling the game over at 20 minutes...and then they scored two with those tactics.
Game over. United isn't going to score with **** tactics.
datrixstunna said:ryan_m said:
You wanna watch exciting football? Support Liverpool. You wanna win games and trophies? Support our red devils! Come on United!
That's is the stupidest thing I have read. United we're built on exciting AND winning football.
My man, why are you so pessimistic? Sir Alex is gone, get over it. It's time to move on and support your team
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ScottishFire said:datrixstunna said:ryan_m said:
You wanna watch exciting football? Support Liverpool. You wanna win games and trophies? Support our red devils! Come on United!
That's is the stupidest thing I have read. United we're built on exciting AND winning football.
Sorry to be offensive, but since you're calling him out: this is stupid too. Calling the game over at 20 minutes...and then they scored two with those tactics.
Game over. United isn't going to score with **** tactics.
What have you seen all season that would said otherwise? The second half performance was an exception and not the rule. That performance needs to be the rule.
ryan_m said:datrixstunna said:ryan_m said:
You wanna watch exciting football? Support Liverpool. You wanna win games and trophies? Support our red devils! Come on United!
That's is the stupidest thing I have read. United we're built on exciting AND winning football.
My man, why are you so pessimistic? Sir Alex is gone, get over it. It's time to move on and support your team
What is so pessimistic about wanting better out of the team?
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Jose is a defensive coach, so he will always play to defend and counter. And he also is negative meaning he wants to negate what the other team does well and build from there. I just don't understand the surprise, as we knew his style, when he was hired. He will be more attack minded, if he obtains Griezmann or Kroos with a 4-3-3. The man will always prefer a 1-0 ein to a 3-2 win, however.datrixstunna said:ScottishFire said:datrixstunna said:ryan_m said:
You wanna watch exciting football? Support Liverpool. You wanna win games and trophies? Support our red devils! Come on United!
That's is the stupidest thing I have read. United we're built on exciting AND winning football.
Sorry to be offensive, but since you're calling him out: this is stupid too. Calling the game over at 20 minutes...and then they scored two with those tactics.
Game over. United isn't going to score with **** tactics.
What have you seen all season that would said otherwise? The second half performance was an exception and not the rule. That performance needs to be the rule.
I started watching about 5 min before Lukaku's goal. United were the better team for 90% of the time I watched.
You're welcome.
You're welcome.
datrixstunna said:ryan_m said:
You wanna watch exciting football? Support Liverpool. You wanna win games and trophies? Support our red devils! Come on United!
That's is the stupidest thing I have read. United we're built on exciting AND winning football.
Ryan, you're forcing me to agree with stunna. I can't believe you've done this.
WELCOME TO THE DARK SIDE!
This is really the crux of the issue...for big games anyway. I think some (me included) hoped he would become a little more expansive. He has at times I think but overall, he's the same manager he's always been so it shouldn't be too much of a surprise.
After the 2016 season, the club had a decision to make. They had missed the top 4 two of the previous three seasons and didn't think LvG was the guy to take them forward. Coming off that run (and let's be honest...the final implications of that run were as relevant as the sporting implications) they didn't have much of an appetite for prioritizing style of play in their next coaching hire. So they went with the best guy available (in their minds) at being able to get them into the top 4 on a consistent basis and how he did it football wise was secondary.
Jury is still out as to whether they succeeded. Lucked into a CL place this season by winning the EL last season and top 4 is by no means assured this season. Hopefully the cost of giving up a more attacking brand of football will pay off in a return to consistent top 4 (at minimum) finishes. Either way, Mourinho was brought in to re-establish United as a top team. He'll be gone in a couple of years max regardless of whether he's successful or not.
After the 2016 season, the club had a decision to make. They had missed the top 4 two of the previous three seasons and didn't think LvG was the guy to take them forward. Coming off that run (and let's be honest...the final implications of that run were as relevant as the sporting implications) they didn't have much of an appetite for prioritizing style of play in their next coaching hire. So they went with the best guy available (in their minds) at being able to get them into the top 4 on a consistent basis and how he did it football wise was secondary.
Jury is still out as to whether they succeeded. Lucked into a CL place this season by winning the EL last season and top 4 is by no means assured this season. Hopefully the cost of giving up a more attacking brand of football will pay off in a return to consistent top 4 (at minimum) finishes. Either way, Mourinho was brought in to re-establish United as a top team. He'll be gone in a couple of years max regardless of whether he's successful or not.
Can we all agree that winning trophies will always be the priority? I love to watch an exciting game with loads of goals, but in my humble opinion, I'd rather have a winning team than an exciting attacking team.
I don't believe Jose will be here for years because of the precedent set by sir Alex. We will eventually find someone who manages attacking football while winning. I'd love to see this, but at the moment I'm happy with Mourinho.
I'd also like to point out that Liverpool has and always will be trash.
I don't believe Jose will be here for years because of the precedent set by sir Alex. We will eventually find someone who manages attacking football while winning. I'd love to see this, but at the moment I'm happy with Mourinho.
I'd also like to point out that Liverpool has and always will be trash.
United XI: DDG,Valencia, Smalling, Lindelof, AY, Matic, McTominay, Pogba, Alexis, Lingard, Lukaku
Subs: JP, Darmian, Bailly, Shaw, Carrick, Mata, Rashford
Martial didnt make the trip. Wonder whats up there?
Subs: JP, Darmian, Bailly, Shaw, Carrick, Mata, Rashford
Martial didnt make the trip. Wonder whats up there?
Rumors that Martial is not in the squad as a precautionary measure due to minor injury picked up in training
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