Nick Young to the Lakers. Solid player

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If you are a Lakers fan, you have to be pretty pleased with an offseason of landing BOTH Chris Kaman and Nick Young. I don't know how they do it, but they always have the upper hand.

I've likened Nick Young to Jarrett Jack. Solid players who always somehow torch the Lakers worse than anyone else

Nick young is terrible. Enjoy the poor man's JR smith

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AK47 to the Nets

(Insert Russian owner is holding AKs family hostage joke here)

How did they pull that off?

That Russian owner don't give a damn bout taxes. Lol

1 year $3mm??? Wtf? He must be getting some under the table Russian money

AK and Monta Ellis. 2 bumbling morons when it comes to opting out of their contracts

Some players at a certain point just want to play for a winning team....um

Oh my god the Nets will have 80MM next season....


For their tax bill

who cares about their tax bill? their owner ****s 80M at 7am every day

Starters +/- according to ORtg and DRtg
+9 118 - 109 Deron Williams
-2 109 - 111 Joe Johnson
+4 106 - 102 Paul Pierce
+5 104 - 99 Kevin Garnett
+9 114 - 105 Brook Lopez

Bench
+4 114 - 110 Shaun Livingston
0 107 - 107 Jason Terry
+9 113 - 104 Andrei Kirilenko
+2 102 - 100 Reggie Evans
+6 107 - 101 Andray Blatche

I'm going to compare that roster to the Spurs, partly because I'm familiar with them and partly because the Spurs are the definition of a good roster and a contender. First, Defensive Rating. The Spurs worst DRtg is 106 (T - Gary Neal and Tony Parker). The Nets have 4 players worse than that, including two starters. The Nets best two DRtgs are Garnett at 99 and Reggie Evans at 100. The Spurs have 4 players at 100 or better (Duncan 95, Leonard 99, Blair 99, Ginobili 100, Splitter 100).

On Offensive Rating, the Nets have 4 players better than 110. The Spurs have 6. The bottom end of the distribution is pretty similar because there are a lot of efficient players on both teams.


A. Kirilinko's salary is 3mm, but the addition of Kirilinko is going to cost the nets almost 17 million dollars.

B. The Nets roster makes no sense. A ton of bad defenders and way too many guys that need the ball in their hands. And for this they pay $186 million next year in salary and tax.

C. Fortunately, to meld this mishmash of ex-stars, awful defenders, coach killers, and empty numbers guys into a cohesive and effective team they hired Phil Jackson. Wait, what? They hired a mental midget who has never coached before?

D. THE NETS ARE PAYING $186 MILLION NEXT YEAR FOR A TEAM THAT MAKES NO SENSE.

Um... I don't think they should start lining up the championship parade, but several parts of that post are just flat out stupid.

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way too many guys that need the ball in their hands

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Every time 2 or more superstars or former superstars get together, this is the new generic argument de jour that is spouted off with little thought to if it really makes sense or knows what it means.

I probably went a little overboard, but my expectations are defined by the payroll. For $186 million they ought to be planning the parade.

It's not a bad roster; Brooklyn was a good regular season team before and they have gotten better with these moves (aside from the coaching change). It's a talented roster. But... compare this to how the Spurs, Rockets, and even Mavs have done business over the last 20 years. For a third of the money they have assembled well-rounded teams where everyone knew their roles, did their jobs, played superb defense, and won a title or titles.

Defense is really where all this falls apart. They have 3 pretty good defenders, no truly elite ones, and several really bad ones. How many teams win championships without elite defense?

As far as too many guys who need the ball in their hands being a bad argument, I hear what you're saying. As a general rule, lower utilization means higher efficiency. But it's also true that super teams have flopped and broken up after one year. Is Jason Kidd the coach to guide all these current and former stars into a cohesive unit or is Deron Williams going to get pissed off 6 games into the season and show him up?

Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett are about as good as you're going to get in terms of "aging stars to mash into your Frankenteam". They don't seem like selfish guys. That will be Kidd's biggest hole card.

I keep coming back to the payroll. When you drop almost 200 million dollars on the table, you're announcing to the world that you expect to win the title right now, and that is the standard against which you are being compared. Do the Nets measure up to that standard?

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine10s
Monta Ellis and Mavericks closing in on a three-year deal that could rise to as much as $30 million. Deal on course to be completed today

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine10s
Monta Ellis and Mavericks closing in on a three-year deal that could rise to as much as $30 million. Deal on course to be completed today

Nets still have to a have a lot of things go right if they want a legitimate chance at the title.

I think Kidd might fall on his face tbh.

Who are the mavs negotiating against?

Hawks I believe is the other legitimate suitor.

cubes knows the news cycle - always announce embarrassing/bad news on Friday afternoon

finally the Mavs are addressing one of the guard positions this offseason

Hell yeah! Monta!!

Now I feel bad for Carlisle in addition to Dirk.

Apparently this could be part of a larger deal, maybe a Sign and Trade with Milwaukee such as Dalembert and Ellis for Mayo, etc. This better be the case b/c we still don't have a Center.

Ellis will be the absolute death of Carlisle

Dallas has the 8 seed in its sights.

Montayyy

Nightmare. I'm not watching this year.

look on the bright side, we'll have the cap room next offseason to sign a player to a max contract! what max level player wouldn't want to play with Calderon, Monta, Dirk, and ___________ at center.

Greg Oden at center

I...

I don't even know what to say.