***Official 2024 - 2025 Dallas Mavericks Season Thread***

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Need to add Dumont's stupid-ass comments and Nico leaking ****talking of Luka to this
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can't believe we ever let a dude with that hairline have so much power. if you're black and have that hairline...when simply shaving bald is a major upgrade, you're a failure. a lot of us wouldn't look better with a bald head...this guy clearly would. Just adds to his reetardation
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zgolfz85 said:

can't believe we ever let a dude with that hairline have so much power. if you're black and have that hairline...when simply shaving bald is a major upgrade, you're a failure. a lot of us wouldn't look better with a bald head...this guy clearly would. Just adds to his reetardation


Yeah that checks out.
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Guitarsoup said:

zgolfz85 said:

can't believe we ever let a dude with that hairline have so much power. if you're black and have that hairline...when simply shaving bald is a major upgrade, you're a failure. a lot of us wouldn't look better with a bald head...this guy clearly would. Just adds to his reetardation


Yeah that checks out.
yep....most of us would die to not look terrible with a bald head. meanwhile, these jokers just walking around taking it for granted and looking as dumb as we do bald with their 7 head hairlines
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shack009 said:

Also Lively, Martin, and Gafford should not play again this season. PJ and Klay probably not either. This season is shot. Need to get as healthy as possible for next season.

Let Naji and Christie get as much work with the ball as possible, because we'll probably need to see a lot of it next season.

Lots of people going to need to be healthy and playing good ball until Kyrie gets back.
Next season is shot also. Not enough people have brought this sad fact up, but the truth is that Kyrie will never be that guy again. He will be a 34 year old coming off an ACL tear the next time we see him on a court. That doesn't mean he has to retire, but we will never see this All-Star version of Kyrie on a court ever again. If deployed properly, he could play out his age 34-37 seasons (assuming he wants to go that long) in a tertiary shooting role and probably still be effective. I would love to see him with Luka in LA.

The reality is that this whole organization is shot at this point. Objectively they should look to move AD this summer and reclaim whatever draft picks they can. Same for all of the other players on the roster (PJ, Lively, Gafford, Christie, etc...). In particular I would go to the teams that own your picks (CHA, OKC, SA, BKN) and see what if anything they might want. No player off limits. If you can get out of the summer getting some of your picks back, plus squeeze out any additional draft capital the roster has to offer, then you can bottom out and start the rebuild immediately instead of waiting until 2031-2032.

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That's just doomerism. This team without Kyrie plus whatever we can add to play PG for 2-4 months will be fine enough to be in the playoff conversation.

Gotta imagine we will be an attractive spot for any kind of ball handler. Guys like Fultz and Tyus Jones come to mind immediately.
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That leaves the 2032 draft as the first one where you can "tank" and keep your high drafted players. That could still easily become another 5 year process before you hit on a few picks and they mature. Mavs are probably 10+ years from being relevant again.
Great summation and 100% agree. 10 years at BEST. Just look at some of these franchises that have been tanking for YEARS and are still nowhere close to contending (Charlotte, Washington, Chicago, NOLA, ect.). The Mavs have to do something that's never happened in their history; get lucky with their lottery slot. THEN they have to get lucky with the talent available. THEN they actually have to make the right pick. THEN they have to do that at least 2 more times. THEN they can maybe conceivably start to contend.

That string of maybes can take a minimum of 5 years for a team WITH ALL THEIR PICKS. A team like Detroit for instance is JUST NOW starting to get frisky with 5 lottery picks on their roster. A franchise that has been in the lottery 13 of the last 15 years. They just got their 1st drafted all star appearance with Cade (a 'generational' #1 pick they took 3 years ago) since 2017 (Andre Drummond).

Like guys...there's a chance the Mavs are bottom dwellers for 15-20 years.

The only exception is when your team is lucky enough to draft a generational superstar who immediately accelerates your championship window. If only the Mavs were lucky enough to draft someone like this. Oh wait….
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shack009 said:


Gotta imagine we will be an attractive spot for any kind of ball handler. Guys like Fultz and Tyus Jones come to mind immediately.
WHO THE HELL WILL WANT TO PLAY HERE?!?

They've seen how this team treats their HOMEGROWN SUPERSTARS

LMAOOOOOOO
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It's ludicrous and impossible, but our entire fanbase needs to boycott the franchise until the owner has no choice but to sell. A total unified mutiny of the fans.

It's something only Dirk could instigate, along with some key political figures, maybe His Orangeness will tell his followers to boycott the Mavericks.
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dave94 said:

shack009 said:


Gotta imagine we will be an attractive spot for any kind of ball handler. Guys like Fultz and Tyus Jones come to mind immediately.
WHO THE HELL WILL WANT TO PLAY HERE?!?

They've seen how this team treats their HOMEGROWN SUPERSTARS

LMAOOOOOOO


Yeah, who would want to be the PG for the best group of big men in the league and one of the best shooters of all time…
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shack009 said:

dave94 said:

shack009 said:


Gotta imagine we will be an attractive spot for any kind of ball handler. Guys like Fultz and Tyus Jones come to mind immediately.
WHO THE HELL WILL WANT TO PLAY HERE?!?

They've seen how this team treats their HOMEGROWN SUPERSTARS

LMAOOOOOOO


Yeah, who would want to be the PG for the best group of big men in the league and one of the best shooters of all time…
Kyrie will be 34-35 before any FA acquisition will be able to play a full season with him. That season, AD will be 33-34. Both have extensive injury histories. On top of that, the FO just completed one of the most bizarre trades of all time that should make any player considering coming here second guess that idea. Klay is also 35 right now and while he is one of the best shooters of all time, this year he ranks 19th in 3PM and 36th in 3%.

From a basketball perspective, why come here? The team is old, hurt, and likely going to be hurt again.

From an organizational perspective, why come here? Ownership/management is so stupid and just gave the middle finger to a top-3 player in the league. They do that to him, why wouldn't they do that to any other role player looking to come here?

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Because you can be the lead guard on a team with a good roster that includes the best big men and an all time shooter.

You're signing guys on 1 year deals at close to league minimum. They get to play a ton of minutes and hope to get a long term deal, likely from a different team, the following offseason.
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I wish Brunson was available…
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The Brunson narrative has gotten out of control in the past month also.

He was borderline unplayable in the Clippers series in 21 and he was all but headed to his dad in NY by the middle of that offseason. It would have taken $20 million+ to get him to sign the extension and the Mavs would have been crazy to agree to that after how he played in the playoffs.

People have let their emotions completely get ahold of them.
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Ohhh you're talking league minimum type guys. Yeah, should be doable.
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Fingers crossed!
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Nico burner?
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Zachary Klement said:

Ohhh you're talking league minimum type guys. Yeah, should be doable.


Or HOF PGs. That throwback green jersey would look good for his rainbow.
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Zachary Klement said:

Ohhh you're talking league minimum type guys. Yeah, should be doable.


Yeah we can't really afford anything else lol.
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shack009 said:

Zachary Klement said:

Ohhh you're talking league minimum type guys. Yeah, should be doable.


Yeah we can't really afford anything else lol.
Yeah. About 2M in space under the tax with 12 players on the roster. Bring in the draft pick (Jeremiah Fears?) and a tax payer MLE and Mavs will be about 7M over the luxury tax with 14 players.
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shack009 said:

The Brunson narrative has gotten out of control in the past month also.

He was borderline unplayable in the Clippers series in 21 and he was all but headed to his dad in NY by the middle of that offseason. It would have taken $20 million+ to get him to sign the extension and the Mavs would have been crazy to agree to that after how he played in the playoffs.

People have let their emotions completely get ahold of them.
If I recall correctly, they had a chance to sign Brunson midway through the 21-22 season as well and by that point, there was more data that pointed toward him being better than the guy we saw in the Clippers series, no?
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Guitarsoup said:

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Ohhh you're talking league minimum type guys. Yeah, should be doable.


Or HOF PGs. That throwback green jersey would look good for his rainbow.
POINT GOD!
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Zachary Klement said:

shack009 said:

The Brunson narrative has gotten out of control in the past month also.

He was borderline unplayable in the Clippers series in 21 and he was all but headed to his dad in NY by the middle of that offseason. It would have taken $20 million+ to get him to sign the extension and the Mavs would have been crazy to agree to that after how he played in the playoffs.

People have let their emotions completely get ahold of them.
If I recall correctly, they had a chance to sign Brunson midway through the 21-22 season as well and by that point, there was more data that pointed toward him being better than the guy we saw in the Clippers series, no?
I still don't think he was going to stay in Dallas without a massive overpay. He was always going to play for his dad, no matter what he may say.

Knicks don't have their 2nd rounder this year because of tampering with Brunson. Shouldn't that be given to the Mavs? There is just one less pick in the round.
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Guitarsoup said:

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shack009 said:

The Brunson narrative has gotten out of control in the past month also.

He was borderline unplayable in the Clippers series in 21 and he was all but headed to his dad in NY by the middle of that offseason. It would have taken $20 million+ to get him to sign the extension and the Mavs would have been crazy to agree to that after how he played in the playoffs.

People have let their emotions completely get ahold of them.
If I recall correctly, they had a chance to sign Brunson midway through the 21-22 season as well and by that point, there was more data that pointed toward him being better than the guy we saw in the Clippers series, no?
I still don't think he was going to stay in Dallas without a massive overpay. He was always going to play for his dad, no matter what he may say.

Knicks don't have their 2nd rounder this year because of tampering with Brunson. Shouldn't that be given to the Mavs? There is just one less pick in the round.
Knicks didn't hire daddy until June of 2022, unless that was put in motion prior to that. Which makes it seem like playing for dad was not any option when midseason negotiations occurred.
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Zachary Klement said:

shack009 said:

The Brunson narrative has gotten out of control in the past month also.

He was borderline unplayable in the Clippers series in 21 and he was all but headed to his dad in NY by the middle of that offseason. It would have taken $20 million+ to get him to sign the extension and the Mavs would have been crazy to agree to that after how he played in the playoffs.

People have let their emotions completely get ahold of them.
If I recall correctly, they had a chance to sign Brunson midway through the 21-22 season as well and by that point, there was more data that pointed toward him being better than the guy we saw in the Clippers series, no?


No, he was all but gone before the season.
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Zachary Klement said:

Guitarsoup said:

Zachary Klement said:

shack009 said:

The Brunson narrative has gotten out of control in the past month also.

He was borderline unplayable in the Clippers series in 21 and he was all but headed to his dad in NY by the middle of that offseason. It would have taken $20 million+ to get him to sign the extension and the Mavs would have been crazy to agree to that after how he played in the playoffs.

People have let their emotions completely get ahold of them.
If I recall correctly, they had a chance to sign Brunson midway through the 21-22 season as well and by that point, there was more data that pointed toward him being better than the guy we saw in the Clippers series, no?
I still don't think he was going to stay in Dallas without a massive overpay. He was always going to play for his dad, no matter what he may say.

Knicks don't have their 2nd rounder this year because of tampering with Brunson. Shouldn't that be given to the Mavs? There is just one less pick in the round.
Knicks didn't hire daddy until June of 2022, unless that was put in motion prior to that. Which makes it seem like playing for dad was not any option when midseason negotiations occurred.
That was when his contract started. Remember that Leon Rose was Rick Brunson's agent and is Jalen Brunson's godfather. He has been President of the Knicks since 2020.

Leon is LeBron's agent that helped orchestrate the Decision with Bron and Bosh moving to Miami. You think they decided to do that July 1 2010 after free agency opened up?
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Guitarsoup said:

Zachary Klement said:

Guitarsoup said:

Zachary Klement said:

shack009 said:

The Brunson narrative has gotten out of control in the past month also.

He was borderline unplayable in the Clippers series in 21 and he was all but headed to his dad in NY by the middle of that offseason. It would have taken $20 million+ to get him to sign the extension and the Mavs would have been crazy to agree to that after how he played in the playoffs.

People have let their emotions completely get ahold of them.
If I recall correctly, they had a chance to sign Brunson midway through the 21-22 season as well and by that point, there was more data that pointed toward him being better than the guy we saw in the Clippers series, no?
I still don't think he was going to stay in Dallas without a massive overpay. He was always going to play for his dad, no matter what he may say.

Knicks don't have their 2nd rounder this year because of tampering with Brunson. Shouldn't that be given to the Mavs? There is just one less pick in the round.
Knicks didn't hire daddy until June of 2022, unless that was put in motion prior to that. Which makes it seem like playing for dad was not any option when midseason negotiations occurred.
That was when his contract started. Remember that Leon Rose was Rick Brunson's agent and is Jalen Brunson's godfather. He has been President of the Knicks since 2020.

Leon is LeBron's agent that helped orchestrate the Decision with Bron and Bosh moving to Miami. You think they decided to do that July 1 2010 after free agency opened up?
I did not know that..I feel like I keep up with the NBA, but some of y'all are definitely much more in tune than I am! I will take your word that he was as good as gone based on that then.
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Gonna post this here and looking forward to more analysis in the media as it's scary how much this already parallels the late 80s Mavs sudden decline. What's the 2020s equivalent of losing Roy Tarpley to cocaine?


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I only bring up Brunson because we're sitting here, less than 12 months from playing for the title, wishing we had a ball handler, and we passed along two guys that have made All-NBA teams running the point. Madness.
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"Unlike that lazy ******* Luka."
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LawHall88 said:

"Unlike that lazy ******* Luka."



What an ass hole
 
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