***Official 2024 - 2025 Dallas Mavericks Season Thread***

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Seven Costanza
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Imagine what Dallas would have to give to trade for Doncic at this point (ignoring salary cap rules and whatnot). AD + Max + 1st Round + ...? Would two additional firsts on top of that and Lively do it? Probably not, but whatever it is, that should tell you how dumb this deal was.
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Seven Costanza said:

Imagine what Dallas would have to give to trade for Doncic at this point (ignoring salary cap rules and whatnot). AD + Max + 1st Round + ...? Would two additional firsts on top of that and Lively do it? Probably not, but whatever it is, that should tell you how dumb this deal was.
I do not think there is any package that Dallas could put together that LA would agree to.
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That's the point.
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I was agreeing with you, but adding that I don't think 2 extra picks gets it done like you asked.
shack009
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Yall just come up with new weird ways to say it's a bad idea to trade an untradeable player. And always presented as if it's some brilliant insight.
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And you keep coming up with new ways to tell us we should support the aftermath.
Zachary Klement
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shack009 said:

Yall just come up with new weird ways to say it's a bad idea to trade an untradeable player. And always presented as if it's some brilliant insight.
Because we are dumbfounded. It's hard to think about the team in any capacity without thinking about how stupid the trade was. We are headed for a decade of irrelevance at least when we should've been contenders for a decade solely because of the guy they scrapped for no reason at all.
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Zachary Klement said:

shack009 said:

Yall just come up with new weird ways to say it's a bad idea to trade an untradeable player. And always presented as if it's some brilliant insight.
It's hard to think about the team in any capacity
To be fair, watching this zombie roster with a total of 8 "healthy" bodies go to San Antonio and win was oddly satisfying. Spurs should be ashamed lol
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M.C. Swag said:

Zachary Klement said:

shack009 said:

Yall just come up with new weird ways to say it's a bad idea to trade an untradeable player. And always presented as if it's some brilliant insight.
It's hard to think about the team in any capacity
To be fair, watching this zombie roster with a total of 8 "healthy" bodies go to San Antonio and win was oddly satisfying. Spurs should be ashamed lol
Should be fun tonight, Spurs are favored by 6. Take the Mavs ML.
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Come on SA, we need to lose this game
Guitarsoup
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zgolfz85 said:

Come on SA, we need to lose this game


Nico will just trade Cooper Flagg for surefire HOFer Chris Paul.
shack009
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It may be futile. Suns have a ridiculously hard SOS remaining. Mavs' is not that hard at all.
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Chris Paul is an elite defender
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Luka strikes fear in the opposing team, disphit
DannyDuberstein
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Future lol
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PatAg said:



Luka strikes fear in the opposing team, disphit

Let's see how many of those guys are on the roster and playing at a high level in 36 months.
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This idiot should just stop talking
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Mavs not the only tone deaf Dallas company
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That's actually pretty solid work by SW
zgolfz85
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PatAg said:



Luka strikes fear in the opposing team, disphit


That was the most reetarded thing I've ever listened to and almost as dumb as that buzz timeout
shack009
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Dude should fire Nico just for putting him in a position to have to talk about the trade and make him sound ******ed. Have some pride, bro.
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shack009 said:

Dude should fire Nico just for putting him in a position to have to talk about the trade and make him sound ******ed. Have some pride, bro.
I do not get why he and Nico keep pitching this as a long term move. AD is 32. Luka is 26. The long term thing simply does not make any sense.

I get the angle that they thought it made sense for the team's window. The long term pitch isn't one that anyone is going to buy. It is so stupid.
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But Nico was saying this was to win NOW. Imagine that, they're trying to spin two different but equally false scenarios lol.

F *ck Nico
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It boils down to this - Dumont doesn't have the first ****ing clue about basketball. At all. And Nico took advantage of the situation to rid himself of a pain in his ass. That's really what this is all about at its core. Nico knew he was pulling a fast one and had the right sucker in charge. And now that sucker is just parroting the bs Nico fed him to get the trade done because it's all he knows.
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But still doesn't make sense that Dumont wouldn't ask Cuban his opinion.

Cuban's been intimately involved in the team for decades and turned it from a $285M team to a 5B team.
DannyDuberstein
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Something went sideways with them last spring is why. Cuban was supposed to continue leading basketball ops but that ended before the offseason. My money is that Nico saw an opportunity to take control and played them against each other. Cozy up to Dumont and now you're the man really running the bball show.
Seven Costanza
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It blow my mind that he could convince anyone to do anything. He looks and sounds like an absolute dumbass when he speaks. After my first conversation with him as a new owner, I would be thinking "this guy is the GM?"
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Back to my original point that Dumont has no clue about basketball. He was an easy mark. What he does know is being boss, so I have a feeling it was somewhat enticing to elbow Cuban out to make sure there is no ambiguity as to who is really running things.

He also might have a problem with his chromosomes
shack009
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Seven Costanza said:

It blow my mind that he could convince anyone to do anything. He looks and sounds like an absolute dumbass when he speaks. After my first conversation with him as a new owner, I would be thinking "this guy is the GM?"
But everything Nico touched had turned to gold prior to that. Nico had easily established himself as one of the best GMs in the league in just a few years. In the short time Dumont owned the team, Nico acquired PJ and Gafford in trades and then signed Klay Thompson.

Nobody had any reason to question Nico at all until the Luka trade.
Seven Costanza
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It goes beyond not a clue about basketball. If I bought a cricket team and the GM seemed like a moron in casual conversation, I would be questioning his competence right off the bat despite not knowing anything about the sport.
DannyDuberstein
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Well, then maybe it's the chromosome issue because this dude is parroting Nico.
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It's not surprising that he's parroting Nico. The only other option really is admitting you messed up and firing Nico. And his ego won't let him admit he was wrong at this point.
shack009
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Seven Costanza said:

It goes beyond not a clue about basketball. If I bought a cricket team and the GM seemed like a moron in casual conversation, I would be questioning his competence right off the bat despite not knowing anything about the sport.
But if the guy had spent the past 3 years building a good team, including making at least 3 really good moves under you in your short tenure, and he was widely considered one of the best cricket GMs in the league, you actually would not question him if he told you something about which you had no idea.
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"We got to the…championship games"

Even the most Stockholm Syndrome diehard Mavs fans have to be asking themselves what they are supporting at this point. Their entire base case is that they know more about basketball than the rest of us, but this unfunny Tommy Boy running the show doesn't understand anything at all about the sport.

And Nico is an absolute laughingstock who got bent over in the most public and embarrassing fashion maybe ever in sports.

These are the guys you're rooting for if you still support this team.
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