Castle has 16p 3s and 1b in just 19 minutes and we played Chris Paul almost 33 minutes.
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The treatment of Castle has fully convinced me that Mitch is not going to be our permanent coach
Can they just go ahead and make Paul the player/head coach. Convince him to retire and move to HC next year.
Guitarsoup said:
Castle has 16p 3s and 1b in just 19 minutes and we played Chris Paul almost 33 minutes.
It's ridiculous. He'd be running away with ROY if Mitch wasn't yanking the reigns on him.
#FreeCastle
I think he is running away with it. Jaylen Wells has put up 8p2r2a in his last 10 games.FTAG 2000 said:Guitarsoup said:
Castle has 16p 3s and 1b in just 19 minutes and we played Chris Paul almost 33 minutes.
It's ridiculous. He'd be running away with ROY if Mitch wasn't yanking the reigns on him.
#FreeCastle
If KelEl Ware has a great 2nd half, I could see some voters giving him the vote. He's been really inconsistent since those three big games.
But Castle still leads all rookies in points scored AND he is clearly the best defensive rookie in the league. He's the only one taking on the toughest defensive assignment pretty much every time he's on the court.
TheNotoriousP.I.P. said:
The treatment of Castle has fully convinced me that Mitch is not going to be our permanent coach
I think this is exactly right. Mitch seems like a puppet coach. Steph is our 3rd, honestly not far from 2nd, best player on this team. Him only playing 20 mins is (I hope) to appease Paul and to not shake Devin's already fragile mentality. We can't be the only one's seeing this. It's ludicrous.
Pairing Fox and Castle in the backcourt is going to make us a better team. Not doing so is putting a ceiling on this team.
Well Castle was -12 tonight while Paul was +12.Guitarsoup said:
Castle has 16p 3s and 1b in just 19 minutes and we played Chris Paul almost 33 minutes.
That being said, Castle is clearly the second best guard on the team and easily the best guard defender. The Fox/Castle backcourt is going to be fun to watch for years. Unfortunately CP3 came here to play and organization seems like they want to fulfil that promise. Here's hoping that they make some fundamental change after at the all star break.
And btw, some of the Vassell hate I see on here is crazy. He's the best pure offensive player on the team and has really been busting his ass on defense lately. He's a better athlete than most realize and he's easily the best shooter on the team. If Devin Vassell is your 4th best player that is pretty dang good. He definitely struggled coming back from injury and I don't think Mitch is doing him any favors with this one on one scheme we started to run. It's REALLY hard for these guys to get good shots.
A whole lot of Paul's +12 is probably those minutes coming with Wemby and Fox, though.Ag Natural said:Well Castle was -12 tonight while Paul was +12.Guitarsoup said:
Castle has 16p 3s and 1b in just 19 minutes and we played Chris Paul almost 33 minutes.
That being said, Castle is clearly the second best guard on the team and easily the best guard defender. The Fox/Castle backcourt is going to be fun to watch for years. Unfortunately CP3 came here to play and organization seems like they want to fulfil that promise. Here's hoping that they make some fundamental change after at the all star break.
And btw, some of the Vassell hate I see on here is crazy. He's the best pure offensive player on the team and has really been busting his ass on defense lately. He's a better athlete than most realize and he's easily the best shooter on the team. If Devin Vassell is your 4th best player that is pretty dang good. He definitely struggled coming back from injury and I don't think Mitch is doing him any favors with this one on one scheme we started to run. It's REALLY hard for these guys to get good shots.
Will be interesting to see what things are like after the break.
40M years average is still high but way better than the 4y212 contact he was demanding
Toronto has the same problem we've had - getting people to want to go there. Poeltl, Barnes, Ingram, Barrett, Quickly with Dick, Agbaji and Shead coming off the bench and a quality first coming this year is a pretty good and quick rebuild from the Spicy P and OG era. They won't be contenders but they will be back to DeMar days, which is probably the best that franchise can realistically hope for
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— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) February 11, 2025
Toronto has the same problem we've had - getting people to want to go there. Poeltl, Barnes, Ingram, Barrett, Quickly with Dick, Agbaji and Shead coming off the bench and a quality first coming this year is a pretty good and quick rebuild from the Spicy P and OG era. They won't be contenders but they will be back to DeMar days, which is probably the best that franchise can realistically hope for
Brothers:
This is hilarious: Justin Champagnie hits a three on his twin brother Julian, and gets in face walking back up the court.
— Bijan Todd (@bijan_todd) February 11, 2025
Just like in the driveway 😂 pic.twitter.com/SWcHjJeQ8e
On the broadcast the other night, they were talking about how when the Spurs game against the Lakers was postponed due to the wildfires, Castle hired a trainer and he put up thousands of shots in those days.
14 games since that delay:
18.0p 3.9r 3.2a 1.0s 2.4to on 49/37/77 shooting
Previous 36 games:
10.7p 2.4r 3.7a 0.8s 1.8to on 38/25/71 shooting
14 games since that delay:
18.0p 3.9r 3.2a 1.0s 2.4to on 49/37/77 shooting
Previous 36 games:
10.7p 2.4r 3.7a 0.8s 1.8to on 38/25/71 shooting
Guitarsoup said:
On the broadcast the other night, they were talking about how when the Spurs game against the Lakers was postponed due to the wildfires, Castle hired a trainer and he put up thousands of shots in those days.
14 games since that delay:
18.0p 3.9r 3.2a 1.0s 2.4to on 49/37/77 shooting
Previous 36 games:
10.7p 2.4r 3.7a 0.8s 1.8to on 38/25/71 shooting
That's incredible. I'll never question that kid's work ethic. It's what is going to make him so great.
Super glad to have him here long-term alongside Vic, those two should be staples of the roster for the next 15 years.
And only 3.4mpg difference. He was at 24.6mpg in the first 36 games and 28.0mpg in the lsat 14.Enzo The Baker said:Guitarsoup said:
On the broadcast the other night, they were talking about how when the Spurs game against the Lakers was postponed due to the wildfires, Castle hired a trainer and he put up thousands of shots in those days.
14 games since that delay:
18.0p 3.9r 3.2a 1.0s 2.4to on 49/37/77 shooting
Previous 36 games:
10.7p 2.4r 3.7a 0.8s 1.8to on 38/25/71 shooting
That's incredible. I'll never question that kid's work ethic. It's what is going to make him so great.
And he is doing this in LA. He's got all of SoCal that isn't on fire to do whatever he wants.
You are absolutely right, this is why he will be great. Such a departure from guys like Harden or Luka.
sold
Boston is torching us from outside.
Boston playing tow seven footers at once. Mitch is like 'Sochan at the 5'.
Every time I think the spurs are letting me down I remember it could always be worse
At the half. pic.twitter.com/WoIB3lPqlw
— Chicago Bulls (@chicagobulls) February 12, 2025
Vassell needs to stop shooting 3s tonight
Cappo said:
Vassell needs to stop shooting 3s tonight
Devin and Vic both shooting 36% from 3 this year. Says two very different things about each player.
Castle 20p 4r 3a 2s in just 24 min
Fox's insertion into starting five has just destroyed Vassell. I don't know if it's a matter of not getting the ball as much, ****ty sets, but the guy is terrible.
Clear ROY. He's honestly the player that keeps me watching this team at the moment.
FTAG 2000 said:
Fox's insertion into starting five has just destroyed Vassell. I don't know if it's a matter of not getting the ball as much, ****ty sets, but the guy is terrible.
I think it's going to take a while for the team to Gel. Vassell definitely isnt getting the looks he wants, particularly in the mid range. That being said, he is shooting himself out of this team's future if he can't knock down open threes. He was getting eaten alive by the small white hope on the other end too.
Devin needs to be 6th man, but we also need the shooting in the starting lineup.FTAG 2000 said:
Fox's insertion into starting five has just destroyed Vassell. I don't know if it's a matter of not getting the ball as much, ****ty sets, but the guy is terrible.
He got the ball enough to shoot 4-12 tonight. He shot 11-14 against Orlando a couple days ago.
He's been way less efficient on drives this year, and it was all before Fox came, too.
Hopefully our rotations change some after the ASB.
The Spurs lineups are a joke.
— Kevin O'Connor (@KevinOConnorNBA) February 13, 2025
After adding De’Aaron Fox 93-year-old Chris Paul is still starting with Stephon Castle receiving even less playing time despite outperforming CP3 by A LOT.
This is the choice of a team that doesn’t actually want to make the playoffs. A quiet tank.
We weren't going to compete regardless. Spend time working on chemistry and developing skills. Hope for the best in the lottery.
Our big problem is it seems like the 76ers and Bulls are embracing the tank.
Our big problem is it seems like the 76ers and Bulls are embracing the tank.
LawHall88 said:The Spurs lineups are a joke.
— Kevin O'Connor (@KevinOConnorNBA) February 13, 2025
After adding De’Aaron Fox 93-year-old Chris Paul is still starting with Stephon Castle receiving even less playing time despite outperforming CP3 by A LOT.
This is the choice of a team that doesn’t actually want to make the playoffs. A quiet tank.
I really think there is something to this. If we had a coach pulling the right strings, even in the last two weeks, we would be closer to 500. Then you consider the absence of bigs on the team, which is a front office call. It could be the last year we are trying to get a top 10 pick and legitimate odds at getting into the top 4 with the combined lottery picks, assuming Atlanta ends up there.
I think they were always embracing the tank and I don't think the raptors are going to try to get to 10th. Gotta hope Atlanta doesn't make it out of the play in.Guitarsoup said:
We weren't going to compete regardless. Spend time working on chemistry and developing skills. Hope for the best in the lottery.
Our big problem is it seems like the 76ers and Bulls are embracing the tank.
Yeah, Detroit is only 2 games up on Atlanta for 6th place.Enzo The Baker said:I think they were always embracing the tank and I don't think the raptors are going to try to get to 10th. Gotta hope Atlanta doesn't make it out of the play in.Guitarsoup said:
We weren't going to compete regardless. Spend time working on chemistry and developing skills. Hope for the best in the lottery.
Our big problem is it seems like the 76ers and Bulls are embracing the tank.
Guitarsoup said:Yeah, Detroit is only 2 games up on Atlanta for 6th place.Enzo The Baker said:I think they were always embracing the tank and I don't think the raptors are going to try to get to 10th. Gotta hope Atlanta doesn't make it out of the play in.Guitarsoup said:
We weren't going to compete regardless. Spend time working on chemistry and developing skills. Hope for the best in the lottery.
Our big problem is it seems like the 76ers and Bulls are embracing the tank.
And the Knicks just botched the end of regulation and are going to OT against the Hawks. The Knicks were up 6 with 18 seconds left.
LawHall88 said:Guitarsoup said:Yeah, Detroit is only 2 games up on Atlanta for 6th place.Enzo The Baker said:I think they were always embracing the tank and I don't think the raptors are going to try to get to 10th. Gotta hope Atlanta doesn't make it out of the play in.Guitarsoup said:
We weren't going to compete regardless. Spend time working on chemistry and developing skills. Hope for the best in the lottery.
Our big problem is it seems like the 76ers and Bulls are embracing the tank.
And the Knicks just botched the end of regulation and are going to OT against the Hawks. The Knicks were up 6 with 18 seconds left.
Knicks hold on in OT.
Hawks lose, Orlando wins!
Paul George goes 1-7 for 2 points in 37 minutes as the 76ers outtank the Nets.
Pistons win.
Heat lose.
Paul George goes 1-7 for 2 points in 37 minutes as the 76ers outtank the Nets.
Pistons win.
Heat lose.
Guitarsoup said:
Hawks lose, Orlando wins!
Paul George goes 1-7 for 2 points in 37 minutes as the 76ers outtank the Nets.
Pistons win.
Heat lose.
Not the playin race I was anticipating to be excited about this year.
Mitch made a comment post game that they are going to use this time off to look at and evaluate the lineups. Lol
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