As a Hawks fan, I know I want Mikel Brown and if not him then either Mara or Burries. If we go Mara at 8 then hopefully get a Christian Anderson at 23
*** Official 2025 - 2026 Dallas Mavericks Season Thread ***
172,005 Views |
2070 Replies |
Last: 9 min ago by Guitarsoup
What is Atlanta's liking with Mara? Not a bad player at all, but I've seen some reports and tweets stating they might like him enough to just pick him at 8.
Tksymm7 said:
What is Atlanta's liking with Mara? Not a bad player at all, but I've seen some reports and tweets stating they might like him enough to just pick him at 8.
6'8 Okongwu is their center. They need a PG and a center, but CJ McCollum and NAW can probably operate as PG for one more year. They get the worst of Bucks/Pelicans picks next year.
Deluxe said:
Regardless of what happens, OKC has some amount of shedding to do. Wiggins has fallen out of the rotation but I think he's a starting caliber player on alot of teams. He needs a new home. Or the Thunder need to clear out a few guys ahead of him so he can play again.
As it relates to a potential 12 for 9 swap with the Mavs, I think if there's a "Presti move", would be Wiggins + 12 for 9. But also sort of agree with the poster above that suggested this could be an opportunity for OKC to move a bigger salary (if desired).
Shedding only Wiggins does nothing for them. They'd still be $20 million over the 2nd apron. Wiggins is a solid rotational player, not a starting caliber player.
If the Mavs are getting only Wiggins, then I need either 12 and 17 this year or 12 plus my rights to my pick back in 28. Mavs aren't going to get Presti'd with Masai in charge.
Either way, OKC needs to shed $30 million in salary just to get under the 2nd apron. It's about $42 million to get under the 1st apron and $50 million to get under the tax.
They either need to get off massive money, or they have to renounce the rights to Dort and/or Hartenstein and lose them for nothing.
Deluxe said:
Yea Presti will be up to something this offseason. What that is I think depends on whether or not they go B2B and chase a three-peat next year.
I heard Simmons talking about the Jdub trade ideas and, tbh, I'm not opposed to it. Everything you said is right. They won 64 without him. Ajay is a better fit alongside SGA and Chet. But I also think that Jdub would thrive in a leading role and Presti would risk repeating some of the shame he took for dealing Harden at a similar junction in his career. It would be interesting to get into his brain on that one.
Regardless of what happens, OKC has some amount of shedding to do. Wiggins has fallen out of the rotation but I think he's a starting caliber player on alot of teams. He needs a new home. Or the Thunder need to clear out a few guys ahead of him so he can play again.
Wallace is an interesting case because I think it will be tough to pay him what he's going to demand. He still has one more year on his deal and then he's an RFA. I could see Presti taking Wallace and Dort aside and seeing which one will agree to a team-friendlier extension... then deal the other one.
As it relates to a potential 12 for 9 swap with the Mavs, I think if there's a "Presti move", would be Wiggins + 12 for 9. But also sort of agree with the poster above that suggested this could be an opportunity for OKC to move a bigger salary (if desired).
The Thunder have every single player currently on the roster under team control next season and their only 'need' is at the PF position. I think they're the most 'Yaxel Lendeborg' team in the entire draft (an older prospect who's ready to play immediately in the NBA and who brings toughness and positional size while maintaining spacing). I think they'll consolidate their picks to move up and take Yaxel who will then make Lu Dort an expiring deal they would be happy to offload.
This league belongs to the Thunder for the next 2-3 seasons unfortunately. Yaxel to the Thunder; book it.
Their problem is teams that an absorb those contracts.
Cap space that can wholly absorb Hartenstein:
Nets, Lakers, Hawks, Bulls.
Exception that can absorb Hartenstein: Grizzlies.
I could see the Lakers wanting him, but they dont have many picks to offer, they would have to lose LeBron, and OKC probably doesn't want to make the Lakers better. Pistons are just shy of the Hartenstein exception, but they have Reed, Stew, Duren.
Dort would also fit in the Boston or Dallas exceptions.
Cap space that can wholly absorb Hartenstein:
Nets, Lakers, Hawks, Bulls.
Exception that can absorb Hartenstein: Grizzlies.
I could see the Lakers wanting him, but they dont have many picks to offer, they would have to lose LeBron, and OKC probably doesn't want to make the Lakers better. Pistons are just shy of the Hartenstein exception, but they have Reed, Stew, Duren.
Dort would also fit in the Boston or Dallas exceptions.
Completely agree and we are the perfect team to swap with for Yaxel. Moving up to 5 is too rich and Atlanta is probably happy to take either Brown or Mara at 8.
Guitarsoup said:
Dort would also fit in the Boston or Dallas exceptions.
Would rather have Caruso than Dort and it isn't close. For basketball and other reasons lol.
Vessel said:Guitarsoup said:
Dort would also fit in the Boston or Dallas exceptions.
Would rather have Caruso than Dort and it isn't close. For basketball and other reasons lol.
Oh for sure, but AC has 3y63M left. That's a negative contact as much as I love him. He shot 43/29 this year.
Vessel said:Guitarsoup said:
Dort would also fit in the Boston or Dallas exceptions.
Would rather have Caruso than Dort and it isn't close. For basketball and other reasons lol.
1000%
just hard to root for dudes you hate. grant williams in the most recent that comes to mind that I just couldn't get behind.
Vessel said:
Shedding only Wiggins does nothing for them. They'd still be $20 million over the 2nd apron. Wiggins is a solid rotational player, not a starting caliber player.
If the Mavs are getting only Wiggins, then I need either 12 and 17 this year or 12 plus my rights to my pick back in 28. Mavs aren't going to get Presti'd with Masai in charge.
Either way, OKC needs to shed $30 million in salary just to get under the 2nd apron. It's about $42 million to get under the 1st apron and $50 million to get under the tax.
They either need to get off massive money, or they have to renounce the rights to Dort and/or Hartenstein and lose them for nothing.
Sorry, didn't mean to insinuate that shedding only Wiggins alleviates their cap concerns. Just meant that they have a few guys who could be key contributors to other teams that currently lost in the rotation and it could be prudent to flip 1-2 of them, possibly to help move up a few spots in the draft and snag Yaxel.
I prob wouldn't do Wiggins + 12 for 9 either if I was the Mavs but I don't think it's crazy either. He has a super team-friendly contract through 2029. Maybe I overrate him a little because he's a really good dude and came up big for us in a few playoff games last year.
It'll be interesting to see how much the Thunder prioritize getting out of the second apron. Again, prob depends on whether or not they win the title this year. Alot of the second apron penalties aren't all that penal to them and I think they'd have a path to re-setting the clock for the 27-28 season even if they exceed in 26-27. It'll be tough because SGA's raise goes into effect, but do-able.
My sense with Presti is that whatever he's thinking is probably not on anyone's radar right now.
One of the things I am curious about as we now enter the evaluation phase of the draft is just how tall some of these guards are. Acuff, Flemings, Philon, and Burries are all on the shorter side just from seeing them on TV, and I am curious what their actual measurements will be. If Acuff comes in at barely 6'1" or dare I say under 6'1"I wonder if it hurts him. Same concept for the other guys.
Wagler and Brown Jr. are the only two guys who look legitimately over 6'5".
Wagler and Brown Jr. are the only two guys who look legitimately over 6'5".
I can't stand Lu Dort but I would rather have him on my team than play against him.
Guitarsoup said:Vessel said:Guitarsoup said:
Dort would also fit in the Boston or Dallas exceptions.
Would rather have Caruso than Dort and it isn't close. For basketball and other reasons lol.
Oh for sure, but AC has 3y63M left. That's a negative contact as much as I love him. He shot 43/29 this year.
He's still one of the best defenders in the league. He had a +21 net rating and had a +10 on/off (unreal considering the team he's on). He's in the 100th percentile of DRAPM. He's still an elite connective piece offensively. He took a high percentage of grenades this year. Gotta think that 3PT% is an outlier. Still shot 74% at the rim.
He's a great fit with Kyrie and Coop. Mavs don't have a guy like him.
Tksymm7 said:
One of the things I am curious about as we now enter the evaluation phase of the draft is just how tall some of these guards are. Acuff, Flemings, Philon, and Burries are all on the shorter side just from seeing them on TV, and I am curious what their actual measurements will be. If Acuff comes in at barely 6'1" or dare I say under 6'1"I wonder if it hurts him. Same concept for the other guys.
Wagler and Brown Jr. are the only two guys who look legitimately over 6'5".
The Locked on Mavs host, who says he's 6'3", said Acuff was significantly shorter than him when he saw Acuff at the lottery. I bet Burries is 6'4" and Flemings and Philon are 6'3" ish.
Are they doing anything at the combine today? I know it is technically underway, but I haven't seen anything that says we'll get measurements today.
I know they scrimmage on Wednesday and Thursday, from what I have found.
I know they scrimmage on Wednesday and Thursday, from what I have found.
Vessel said:Tksymm7 said:
One of the things I am curious about as we now enter the evaluation phase of the draft is just how tall some of these guards are. Acuff, Flemings, Philon, and Burries are all on the shorter side just from seeing them on TV, and I am curious what their actual measurements will be. If Acuff comes in at barely 6'1" or dare I say under 6'1"I wonder if it hurts him. Same concept for the other guys.
Wagler and Brown Jr. are the only two guys who look legitimately over 6'5".
The Locked on Mavs host, who says he's 6'3", said Acuff was significantly shorter than him when he saw Acuff at the lottery. I bet Burries is 6'4" and Flemings and Philon are 6'3" ish.
easily the best mavs pod...and I won't even say it's good, just better than anything else. The DLLS pod guys are knowledgeable, but the pods are WAY longer than they need to be and full of unnecessary fluff
I listen to DLLS for Karalla and Stein lol. Liked when Cato was a part of it. Have never liked Kevin Gray and don't feel anything towards the new guy from DC lol.
The Locked On guys rule. Love Slightly Biased as well, but you have to wade through the Gen Z live streaming stuff.
The Locked On guys rule. Love Slightly Biased as well, but you have to wade through the Gen Z live streaming stuff.
Ron is a good writer but my God he's a Wizards fan through and through. It's hard to listen to a Mavs pod with a Wizards HOMER on it. Couldn't care less about Kevin Gray either.
Vessel said:
I listen to DLLS for Karalla and Stein lol. Liked when Cato was a part of it. Have never liked Kevin Gray and don't feel anything towards the new guy from DC lol.
The Locked On guys rule. Love Slightly Biased as well, but you have to wade through the Gen Z live streaming stuff.
agreed, stein in nails.
I'm so glad isaac is back on Locked On. It was nice for a while with slightly, but I'm glad he's not the normal partner anymore.
Isaac works for the Mavs, so I get it, but I can't imagine how much (mostly unpaid) time Nick puts into this pod. Daily is too much. I think we'd all be fine with twice a week and just adding in additional eps as news warrants.
The Locked on Boys pod is good comfort food too, but I prefer the Mavs hosts.
Vessel said:Guitarsoup said:Vessel said:Guitarsoup said:
Dort would also fit in the Boston or Dallas exceptions.
Would rather have Caruso than Dort and it isn't close. For basketball and other reasons lol.
Oh for sure, but AC has 3y63M left. That's a negative contact as much as I love him. He shot 43/29 this year.
He's still one of the best defenders in the league. He had a +21 net rating and had a +10 on/off (unreal considering the team he's on). He's in the 100th percentile of DRAPM. He's still an elite connective piece offensively. He took a high percentage of grenades this year. Gotta think that 3PT% is an outlier. Still shot 74% at the rim.
He's a great fit with Kyrie and Coop. Mavs don't have a guy like him.
Right but he's old, injury prone and a limited minutes guy.
Isaac doesn't work for the team anymore. He went back to Locked On when Bobby Karalla left the team to work for DLLS. Isaac is also a full time (youth?) pastor and has 3 or 4 kids, that's why he's not on every show.
Slightly is great on the postgame shows.
Slightly is great on the postgame shows.
Vessel said:
Isaac doesn't work for the team anymore. He went back to Locked On when Bobby Karalla left the team to work for DLLS. Isaac is also a full time (youth?) pastor and has 3 or 4 kids, that's why he's not on every show.
Slightly is great on the postgame shows.
ah I didn't realize he wasn't with the team anymore. I guess I should have figured that out given how candid he is again. When he would come on the pod when he was employed by the mavs, he was a lot more "careful"
https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nba/news/nba-draft-combine-results-height-wingspan-measurements-2026/9a5a0b91e9b707dbd0d4894c
Looks like we have measurements coming in. Acuff at 6'2 with a 6'7" wingspan is a big plus for him. He's not making it to 9.
Wagler is 6'5".
Flemings is 6'2.5" with a 6'3.5" wingspan. Ouch. Somehow has the same standing reach as Acuff so make that make sense.
Looks like we have measurements coming in. Acuff at 6'2 with a 6'7" wingspan is a big plus for him. He's not making it to 9.
Wagler is 6'5".
Flemings is 6'2.5" with a 6'3.5" wingspan. Ouch. Somehow has the same standing reach as Acuff so make that make sense.
Huge bummer for Flemmings.
M.C. Swag said:
Huge bummer for Flemmings.
Yeah, his stock will drop some. Thought he was bigger. Bad wingspan, too
Guitarsoup said:M.C. Swag said:
Huge bummer for Flemmings.
Yeah, his stock will drop some. Thought he was bigger. Bad wingspan, too
lol Honestly it matches his play style. He's not bad at anything, but nothing stands out as special. He's the epitome of an average prospect (which is maddening to project when evaluating his ceiling).
So he's Quickly?
M.C. Swag
Joined:
Jan 31, 2013
Posts:
12,945
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Guitarsoup said:
So he's Quickly?
He's a better defender than Quickley, but probably not as good a scorer. Flemings' playmaking fell off down the stretch too.
Flemings does have good speed though. He'd probably be the fastest player on the team if the Mavs took him.
I still wouldn't mind Flemings on the Mavs. All the advanced data says he's very impactful on both ends. Houston completely relied on him for offense.
His biggest problem was that he didn't take very many threes, despite having a good percentage. Whoever drafts him will tell him to shoot more 3s, and everything else will open up for him.
His biggest problem was that he didn't take very many threes, despite having a good percentage. Whoever drafts him will tell him to shoot more 3s, and everything else will open up for him.
Vanderbilt's Tyler Tanner measured 5'10.75 barefoot and 167 pounds at the NBA Draft Combine, with a 6'4.25 wingspan and 7'9 standing reach. pic.twitter.com/pE5DbpIWKu
— Jonathan Givony (@DraftExpress) May 11, 2026
Short. Still would take him at 30, he's that good.
Alabama's Labaron Philon measured 6'2.5 barefoot and 176 pounds at the NBA Draft Combine, with a 6'6.25 wingspan and 8'3.5 standing reach. pic.twitter.com/Rsvss1OnCd
— Jonathan Givony (@DraftExpress) May 11, 2026
2026 AWS NBA Draft Combine anthro measurements for Arkansas’ Meleek Thomas:
— Jon Chepkevich (@JonChep) May 11, 2026
6'3” barefoot, 189.6 pounds with a 6'6 ¾" wingspan and 8'4 standing reach pic.twitter.com/I5B5wBImoO
Duke's Isaiah Evans measured 6'5.5 barefoot and 186 pounds at the NBA Draft Combine, with a 6'8.75 wingspan and 8'8.5 standing reach. pic.twitter.com/Nqg1z6oRBn
— Jonathan Givony (@DraftExpress) May 11, 2026
Possible options at 30.
A note on Brown's measurements: the 8'9.5 standing reach doesn't match what we've collected from 10 prior measurements, leading us to believe his reach may in fact be 8'3.5. Likely a typo on the NBA side that will be corrected.
— Jonathan Givony (@DraftExpress) May 11, 2026
Arizona's Brayden Burries measured 6'3.75 barefoot and 215 pounds at the NBA Draft Combine, with a 6'6 wingspan and 8'2.5 standing reach. pic.twitter.com/6SV3jKaUQJ
— Jonathan Givony (@DraftExpress) May 11, 2026
Featured Stories
See All
37:57
10h ago
4.7k
Baseball Thoughts: Aggies continue to creatively attack new hurdles
by Ryan Brauninger
9:07
8h ago
1.1k
College graduate Trovon Baugh wants to give back
by David Nuño
REGISTER NOW: Preseason Kickoff 2026 with Coach Mike Elko
by Brandon Jones
1/2 Man 1/2 Amazing
Earley on Kellner during TexAgs Live this morning
in Billy Liucci's TexAgs Premium
72