Highest scoring duos so far this season: pic.twitter.com/r6odbz0zhr

— Extra (@extrastats) December 3, 2025

Ah yes, the notable scorer CHEET HOLMGREN

Interesting the Lakers have the 3rd best record but just the 14th best net rating. That's a pretty massive disparity.

Busy work day, what is up with the CP3 stuff?

zgolfz85 said:

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Busy work day, what is up with the CP3 stuff?

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The Clippers had a plane issue and flew into Atlanta late last night. Lawrence Frank flew in to meet them and at 3am told CP3 to fly back to LA because he wasn't going to be with the team anymore.

Ty Lue apparently doesn't like CP3 and refused to talk to him, despite Paul trying to work with Lue.

But because of the cap, the Clippers can't cut him. So they are kind of stuck with CP3 on the roster, but not. And Cp3 had already declared it was his last season, so it was going to be his farewell tour from the end of the bench.

Guitarsoup said:

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zgolfz85 said:

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Busy work day, what is up with the CP3 stuff?

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The Clippers had a plane issue and flew into Atlanta late last night. Lawrence Frank flew in to meet them and at 3am told CP3 to fly back to LA because he wasn't going to be with the team anymore.

Ty Lue apparently doesn't like CP3 and refused to talk to him, despite Paul trying to work with Lue.

But because of the cap, the Clippers can't cut him. So they are kind of stuck with CP3 on the roster, but not. And Cp3 had already declared it was his last season, so it was going to be his farewell tour from the end of the bench.

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Awkward

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AD is playing well right now. Hurry up and trade him before he gets hurt again.

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And before you win too many to actually tank and get Peterson or Dybansa.

So, question preferenced by the fact that the Luka trade was the worst trade in NBA history:

How many healthy AD games makes it worth keeping him? 60? 50? What's the magic number? He's obviously very good/great when on the court. And has a rare combination of skills. There's no other version of AD out there.

I look at all the superstar injuries and it seems guys are dropping like flies. Even for the Mavs, Gafford and Lively struggle staying healthy.

Again, I hate the trade, but recurring injuries seem to be more common across the league, not just with AD.

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How many healthy AD games makes it worth keeping him? 60? 50? What's the magic number?

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Ignore what is in the past and consider the future more than a magic number. The real magic number is what another team is willing to give to take AD.

From an outsider looking in:

* Cooper Flagg is a foundational piece of any franchise
* Nembhard looks like he can be a solid piece
* Gafford is an elite rim protector
* Lively is very good, but worries about health
* PJ Washington is a pretty ideal D&3 forward on a team-friendly contract. He can't be traded until after the season
* Max Christie is a very good rotational piece.
* Naji Marshall is a solid rotational piece
* Mavs have the 26 pick, then don't control their own pick until 31
* Kyrie is an elitely talented PG, but teams may shy away from him due to issues pre-Mavs.

I would actively shop AD with the understanding that I don't have to move him if I don't want. He makes sense on a lot of teams. What's the value to the other teams? If I could get ending salary, off Martin, 2 firsts including 2026, and Coby White from Chicago, I probably do it.

I would actively shop Lively, because I don't believe in his health. If you can get a decent pick in this draft or next, you might need to consider it.

Anyone else outside Flagg is up for grabs. But I wouldn't want to move anyone without getting the obviously better end of the deal.

I would absolutely tank this season because the 26 class is that good, and you need a 2nd player next to Cooper. Cooper is the type of star that can slot in next to basically anyone.

Guitarsoup said:

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How many healthy AD games makes it worth keeping him? 60? 50? What's the magic number?

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Ignore what is in the past and consider the future more than a magic number. The real magic number is what another team is willing to give to take AD.

From an outsider looking in:

* Cooper Flagg is a foundational piece of any franchise
* Nembhard looks like he can be a solid piece
* Gafford is an elite rim protector
* Lively is very good, but worries about health
* PJ Washington is a pretty ideal D&3 forward on a team-friendly contract. He can't be traded until after the season
* Max Christie is a very good rotational piece.
* Naji Marshall is a solid rotational piece
* Mavs have the 26 pick, then don't control their own pick until 31
* Kyrie is an elitely talented PG, but teams may shy away from him due to issues pre-Mavs.

I would actively shop AD with the understanding that I don't have to move him if I don't want. He makes sense on a lot of teams. What's the value to the other teams? If I could get ending salary, off Martin, 2 firsts including 2026, and Coby White from Chicago, I probably do it.

I would actively shop Lively, because I don't believe in his health. If you can get a decent pick in this draft or next, you might need to consider it.

Anyone else outside Flagg is up for grabs. But I wouldn't want to move anyone without getting the obviously better end of the deal.

I would absolutely tank this season because the 26 class is that good, and you need a 2nd player next to Cooper. Cooper is the type of star that can slot in next to basically anyone.

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I'd take that deal for AD without thinking twice

Holy crap that's funny.
And I can't stand Brooks.

Blatant hold

Conspiracy Bill decided that Jason Kidd was intentionally not playing Ryan Nembhard to get Nico fired

hph6203 said:

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Mavs are fooked if they play for the playoffs this season and let AD/Kyrie age out of utility.

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Correct. This is a one shot opportunity. Mavs really need to be drafting top 8 with a chance to get lucky and go top 4. It's really hard to see a future title path with a Flagg led Mavs team without getting another star. Getting to the top of this draft is easiest way to get there.

This Mavs season….is interesting

The Mavs are a pretty good team when healthy…