Astros Offseason Thread - The Path To A Dynasty

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Good to see Deshields will be thrown away, waste of a draft pick and no need for us to keep him around.
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De shields. Another waste of a draft pick.
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Nelson Cruz to Mariners. 4 years 57 Million.

Where are they getting all this money?
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Tweet from Jon Heyman:

if astros dont get robertson, they may turn to sergio romo
3:09pm - 1 Dec 14
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Is luhnow getting pressure from Jim to supply big league talent? Otherwise why sacrifice a draft pick for this dude
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If he was getting pressure we would have Donaldson. Still pissed we didn't try.
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Markakis no longer leaning to signing with Orioles. Go get him!
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Markakis no longer leaning to signing with Orioles. Go get him!
would love to have him. already have a packed outfield, though
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http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/braves-to-astros-you-want-gattis-then-also-take-upton-and-his-big-contract-120114
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**** Upton
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Love Gattis, Upton is a waste of space... And what was that about trading Carter? No thanks.
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Am I the only one who finds it odd that we're in the market for a top tier closer?

I understand that we need a closer but damn what good is a closer if you never have the chance for save opportunities? We need middle of the pen help to get it to a closer. Think that should be our first focus.

Am I off base for thinking this?
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Am I the only one who finds it odd that we're in the market for a top tier closer?

I understand that we need a closer but damn what good is a closer if you never have the chance for save opportunities? We need middle of the pen help to get it to a closer. Think that should be our first focus.

Am I off base for thinking this?
Definitely not off base. I have the same concerns as well.

Speaking of relief pitchers, any updates on Jesse Crain? Sure would have been nice to have that dude available last year. If he is on schedule to pitch next year, then maybe pursuing a closer might not be a bad idea if Crain is able to work the 7th or 8th inning
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did you watch us play last year? We blew leads in the 9th inning SOOOOOO many games.
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A closer isn't our biggest need right now, but we could sure use one to win us a few more games.

Also I think we are going for one of these three younger top-tier guys so we can sign them to a 3-5 year contract. I think Lunhow and co want whoever we get to be the guy for the next several years as we become contenders.
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We dont need an overpaid 1 inning pitcher.. but we absolutely need a reliable arm or two that we can count on in late inning situations. We have a decent offense.. especially if we can upgrade the corner infield spots (I think Singleton has a much better sophomore year). But what kills us is relief pitching.
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I honestly wouldn't mind trading Carter. I still think last season was too good to be true. We could get a good player, and we have Reed who is coming up who will be sped through the minors in order to become a DH
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@jonmorosi :Blue Jays have had trade discussions with Astros on Dexter Fowler. He is a switch-hitter; Jays would like to get more left-handed.
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@jonmorosi :Blue Jays have had trade discussions with Astros on Dexter Fowler. He is a switch-hitter; Jays would like to get more left-handed.

Well, doesnt seem like Fowler is gonna be around for long
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I thought luhnow like fowler for grooming springer
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David Robertson is using the Astros for leverage
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David Robertson is using the Astros for leverage
Interesting. I hadn't thought of that. Let's go make some offers to Romo and Miller and see what happens.

Maybe we agreed to be used as leverage, and Robertson would blow a save when we play the Yanks
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I thought luhnow like fowler for grooming springer


I believe he wants to keep fowler. But it looks as if the Jays were the ones starting the talks. You definitely listen to see if they offer up something crazy that you can't say no to.
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If we're not going to extend Fowler, he needs to be traded for player(s) we can control for a few years.
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Braves sign markakis
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Braves sign markakis
Well damn. Maybe now we could go after Upton?
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mlbtraderumors:

10:00pm: The Astros appear unlikely to land Miller, Evan Drellich of the Houston Chronicle reports.
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Cant figure this astros front office out. Stockpiling Minor league talent, and wasting their own draft picks with indecision. Parting ways with young veteran players before they hit payday. Sounds like the marlins
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Runner-up for Miller
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Cashman said Miller had 4 yrs at $40M offer elsewhere, so #Yankees went from 4-$32M to 4-$36M to get it done. Joel Sherman (@Joelsherman1) December 5, 2014
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HOU offered Andrew Miller $40m/4 yrs., but lost bidding; would seem to logically follow that they could take that money and pursue Robertson. Buster Olney (@Buster_ESPN)
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On the Astros: "They made a heck of a pitch. I know they got thrown out there in the rumor mill. But top to bottom, they were really impressive. They've got some really smart people. They're going in the right direction. This was a decision that was not made lightly. And it was not only two teams. I was very - not surprised - but excited to see who was interested. I felt I pitched well enough to put myself in this position. But it was hard to even dream about it turning out the way it did."
https://www.facebook.com/kenrosenthalsports/posts/763678233697910
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Good, now I hope we're a runner up for Robertson. Spending half our offseason budget on a closer would be a huge head scratcher with all our other holes.
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Multiple sources say the Astros have been pursuing SS Jed Lowrie.
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Decent veteran stop gap for a couple years...
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We should have pursued him a month ago. And we should have Donaldson playing next to him.

Instead, we have four catchers considering we tendered a contract to craporan.
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Meh. I'm good with signing him to a one year deal.

Edit: Wait, I was assuming he was a free agent. Are we talking a trade?
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He's a free agent.
 
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